Christen57 wrote:Sound4 wrote:Christen57 wrote:
You should've asked them to be cooperative, asked them to say the issues on the judge call, and asked them to be more patient. That's what's mostly your fault — failing to be proactive and ask for these things. Multiple judges and myself have already told you this. If you had been proactive and asked for these, and the opponent still refused, you would've been much less at fault while they would've been much more at fault.
His fault for failing to be proactive and ask for those things I mentioned, right?
How is me basically saying there are no judges online and waiting for a judge not being proactive? Plus being proactive is a perspective and a bit one sided. You ignored all the questions I said in the post. Why should I ask the opponent to be cooperative?
Simply saying there are no judges online solves nothing, and being proactive is the opposite of just waiting around for a judge to come and solve your problem for you. Sure there are indeed situations where waiting for a judge is truly the only option, but this wasn't one of those situations. Being proactive includes adapting to other people's mistakes. Your opponent forgot to make it clear why they called a judge, which was a mistake on their part, so you should've adjusted to that mistake by asking them to clarify it to you once more. You didn't. Instead, you responded to that mistake with a mistake of your own (failing to remind them to remind you why they were calling the judge).
Both of you contributed to this problem. The judges decided you contributed more, which is why you got the freeze. Your opponent contributed by continuing to play when you didn't give the okay and by forgetting to make sure it was clear to you why the judge was being called, and you contributed by failing to remind them to tell you why they were calling the judge and by wrongfully agreeing to wait without first making sure it was being made more clear to you so you could try solving the problem on your own before they arrived.Him not being cooperative was literally one if the main reasons why we had to wait for a judge. All of this could have been avoided.
You didn't yet know at the time that you would have to wait for a judge, so your "we had to wait for a judge" excuse doesn't work. You didn't "have" to wait for anything just yet. You had to make sure you knew what the issue was so only then you'd know if you'd "have to wait for a judge".
You didn't yet know if the judge call was for an issue related to the current gamestate, so you didn't yet know if you "had" to wait for anything. If you knew the call was related to the current gamestate, only then can you say you knew you had to wait for the judge, but you didn't know at the time since you never bothered to ask what the call was for until it was too late. Issues like ruling disputes, glitches, and cheating all relate to the current gamestate, so if the call was for one of those, and you knew this, you would indeed wait for a judge. Issues like AFK and slowplay on the other hand do not relate to the gamestate, so if the call was for one of those, and you knew this, you would know that you can't just agree to wait for a judge.How is it my fault that my opponent doesn't want to be cooperative? I was literally saying they were no judges online so us waiting for a judge was pointless.
It's not that the opponent didn't want to be cooperative. It's that the opponent was forgetting to do so. Saying they didn't want to be cooperative means they remembered that they should've been cooperative instead of forgetting, but still intentionally refused to be cooperative. They did want to be cooperative. They were just forgetting to do so, so you should've reminded them to be cooperative so they'd remind you again why they were calling the judge.I don't see how any of this is my fault when I showed no signs of stalling. How is 40 seconds of thinking stalling? I would have understood maybe 2 minutes but 40 seconds is absurd.
It wasn't just 40 seconds. It was at least 7 minutes in total — 40 seconds of thinking, plus an additional 7 minutes of you just waiting around when you shouldn't have been.
How does saying there are no judges online solves nothing? It sends a message to the opponent that us waiting for a judge is pointless and we might as well continue. So he just thinks calling a judge out of nowhere with no explanation is ok? It just shows him being inconsiderate. Like I said I was trying to talk to him teyrying to find out the issue yet was ignoring. I couldn't have continued without the information needed especially since after the judge came in there was more issues he had which he didn't say.
Since he was refusing to say anything on the judge call and his issue then yes we had to wait for a judge as now I can't really do much. You keep forgetting that I didn't know it was for Slowplay nor did I I think that 40 seconds of thinking would result in the opponents mind Slowplay. Especially since this guy was making a bunch of other comments on me as shown already.
I honestly could not take your post seriously anymore after you said this "It's not that the opponent didn't want to be cooperative. It's that the opponent was forgetting to do so." I don't think I need to say anything on this reading already speaks for itself.