Sound4 wrote:Christen57 wrote:Sound4 wrote:The game was stopped. I didn't think that me having ten minutes to think Is me thinking for ten minutes it doesn't make any it us like saying me having ten minutes to knock is me knocking for ten minutes especially when the judge call was not really clear at the time. When he called a judge It said his name and "has called a judge for AFK" since he specifically put it on AFK. He should have been more clear on that as I was saying "you do know I am still talking right" attempting to resolve the issue. I don't see how this is all my fault when the guy was never clear to begin with.
How am I suppost to know if he has a problem with je pointing at whale if he does not say anything? Since he wasn't saying anything I thought he was ok with it.
I brung up me showing the logs in this thread as Christen57 replies seems like he has not read any of the pigs I have shown and dismissing them.
The game was stopped once you agreed to wait for the judge without first asking for clarification why the call was made. Forget about the "
thinking for 10 minutes" stuff. I don't think that matters anymore. What matters is what you could've done better prior to the judge's arrival, and you could've handled so much of this better by first stepping up to ask why the opponent called that judge so you could at least have the information needed to go about resolving the issue.
I read the logs you showed. It doesn't change the fact that you should not have agreed to wait for a judge just yet when you weren't even sure why the call was made to begin with.
The opponent didn't say anything about you pointing because they must've thought it didn't mean anything.
OK but Maniez said that I wasn't communicating at all.
The judge said you weren't communicating
properly, not that you weren't communicating
at all.
When I showed the logs being confused on why he called the judge especially for AFK. Maniez never once mentioned anything o what happened prior to the judge call. He specifically asked why I was thinking for ten minutes. You were the one who was bringing up this thinking for ten minutes the most.
If you were thinking for 10 minutes, you should've explained to the judge why. If you weren't thinking for 10 minutes, you should've explained to the judge what you
were doing instead. You explained neither. That's one of the issues here, in addition to you not communicating properly prior to the judge's arrival. The judge didn't need to tell you what they "meant" by you thinking for 10 minutes. It wasn't code for anything else. Judges don't speak in code. They said what they meant and meant what they said. You should never assume under any circumstances that judges speak in code in your duels.
I didn't agree instantly I was saying the current situation when he called the judge and that we would basically be wasting both of our time.
You shouldn't have agreed
at all, as you didn't yet know for certain why the call was being made.
You can't blame me if wants to ignore me.
As itsmetristan pointed out earlier, you should focus on what
you could've done better, not what your opponent and the judge could've done better. Maybe it was wrong for your opponent to say "get ignored" and maybe the judge wasn't right to assume you were thinking for 10 minutes just because you could've been, but what you could've controlled was your actions and how you communicated. You didn't communicate that you were done thinking and you didn't bother to ask why exactly the call was made if you knew you weren't AFK.
If Maniez assumed all these things then why didn't he say all these thing ls in the judge call? He oly thing he said was thinking for ten minutes.
The judge assumed you knew this because it's listed in
the rules:
Discontinuing play while waiting for a judge to resolve an issue not related to the immediate gamestate:
- Calling a judge because of harassment, and discontinuing gameplay in the meantime
- Calling a judge because of slow play, and refusing to continue gameplay until the judge arrives.Whether the call was really for AFK or for slow play doesn't matter. The point is if the call was for either of these things, you must attempt to continue the duel to the best of your ability while you wait for the judge, as neither AFK nor slow play relate to the immediate gamestate. Judges assume you read the rules every time you go into rated, because, well, that's what you're supposed to do before going into rated — know the rules.
You should've never agreed to wait for the judge. Period. I don't care if you didn't agree "instantly" or not, nor does it matter if the opponent said "get ignored" or not. You shouldn't have agreed to it at all because the issue wasn't related to the immediate gamestate. You should've attempted to finish your thinking and try to get the duel to continue no matter what your opponent was saying and no matter if the agreement was "instant" or not.
Here, another user makes the same mistake as you and also ends up with a freeze:
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=35522857He called a judge and forced both himself and his opponent to wait 20 minutes over something that they could've very easily resolved without getting any judge involved.
greg503 wrote:Sound4 wrote:Genexwrecker wrote:It was originally posted in serious discussions. We moved it to spam paradise since it was just a troll trolling and not an actual serious logical debate
This was never posted in serous discussions. Now you are lying at this point. When was this ever posted in serious discussions and who moved it?
IDK but I trust the person with access to the history of the thread more than you
If it was originally in Serious Discussion but later moved to Spam Paradise then it must've been moved very early on when this thread was started (like within the first 2 and a half hours after it was created) as I have archived this thread when I first saw it and saw it was in Spam Paradise there.
https://archive.ph/5t8iD