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Re: Silence is Consent in Yugioh Just had Confirmation

Post #201 by Sound4 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:40 pm

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If "on eff" wasn't clear enough for you then you could have stopped and ask them to clarify what they meant — "What do you mean by 'on eff'? Are you saying you wish to respond?" You didn't have to ignore them and keep on playing.

I also don't think 10 seconds in this situation was "excessive time" or the opponent "taking too long" and the judges didn't think so either.

Communicating clearly in DB is key as if you are not it causes issues like this. 10seconds after an effect is a lot if you think about it. There is a good chance he already knew the nachster 2nd effect. What reason would he have to take so long? Which the judge or tge player could not answer.

Doesn't matter, you tried to get a free win and you tried to deny him a response in the N3sh duel.

Considering that is relevant, the only reason you're arguing that "Silence is consent" is literally YOU wanting to deny the window for your opponent to respond so you can play freely.

Man, to think you wouldn't get shittier.

I already said that I would have allowed the response if he responded quicker. I literally had advantage in the duel. Explain how I was at a "disadvantage" which I doubt you can. It is me being realistic there is no reason to take 10 seconds to respond especially when my opponent most likely already knew nachster 2nd effect as he didn't sat anything on him reading or not knowing the effect.

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Post #202 by Sound4 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:42 pm

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If "on eff" wasn't clear enough for you then you could have stopped and ask them to clarify what they meant — "What do you mean by 'on eff'? Are you saying you wish to respond?" You didn't have to ignore them and keep on playing.

I also don't think 10 seconds in this situation was "excessive time" or the opponent "taking too long" and the judges didn't think so either.

Communicating clearly in DB is key as if you are not it causes issues like this. 10seconds after an effect is a lot if you think about it. There is a good chance he already knew the nachster 2nd effect. What reason would he have to take so long? Which the judge or tge player could not answer.

Imagine assuming your opponent knows what your cards do better than you do :lol: :lol:

What other reason would they be? He didn't say anything he was reading or not not knowing the effect.

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Post #203 by Renji Asuka » Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:23 pm

Sound4 wrote:
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Sound4 wrote:Communicating clearly in DB is key as if you are not it causes issues like this. 10seconds after an effect is a lot if you think about it. There is a good chance he already knew the nachster 2nd effect. What reason would he have to take so long? Which the judge or tge player could not answer.

Doesn't matter, you tried to get a free win and you tried to deny him a response in the N3sh duel.

Considering that is relevant, the only reason you're arguing that "Silence is consent" is literally YOU wanting to deny the window for your opponent to respond so you can play freely.

Man, to think you wouldn't get shittier.

I already said that I would have allowed the response if he responded quicker. I literally had advantage in the duel. Explain how I was at a "disadvantage" which I doubt you can. It is me being realistic there is no reason to take 10 seconds to respond especially when my opponent most likely already knew nachster 2nd effect as he didn't sat anything on him reading or not knowing the effect.

Doesn't matter, you still tried to deny his right to respond. End of story.
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Post #204 by greg503 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:07 am

Sound4 wrote:
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Sound4 wrote:Communicating clearly in DB is key as if you are not it causes issues like this. 10seconds after an effect is a lot if you think about it. There is a good chance he already knew the nachster 2nd effect. What reason would he have to take so long? Which the judge or tge player could not answer.

Imagine assuming your opponent knows what your cards do better than you do :lol: :lol:

What other reason would they be? He didn't say anything he was reading or not not knowing the effect.

See, they were ASSUMING that you were waiting their response and needed time to think, which they assumed had been conveyed, and you assumed that they were totally cool with your effect. This is why silence is not consent, and never will be, ambiguity.
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Post #205 by Sound4 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:05 pm

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Renji Asuka wrote:Doesn't matter, you tried to get a free win and you tried to deny him a response in the N3sh duel.

Considering that is relevant, the only reason you're arguing that "Silence is consent" is literally YOU wanting to deny the window for your opponent to respond so you can play freely.

Man, to think you wouldn't get shittier.

I already said that I would have allowed the response if he responded quicker. I literally had advantage in the duel. Explain how I was at a "disadvantage" which I doubt you can. It is me being realistic there is no reason to take 10 seconds to respond especially when my opponent most likely already knew nachster 2nd effect as he didn't sat anything on him reading or not knowing the effect.

Doesn't matter, you still tried to deny his right to respond. End of story.

I also explained my reasoning.

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Post #206 by Sound4 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:07 pm

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greg503 wrote:Imagine assuming your opponent knows what your cards do better than you do :lol: :lol:

What other reason would they be? He didn't say anything he was reading or not not knowing the effect.

See, they were ASSUMING that you were waiting their response and needed time to think, which they assumed had been conveyed, and you assumed that they were totally cool with your effect. This is why silence is not consent, and never will be, ambiguity.

This doesn't really answer the question. You have no evidence they were thinking. They didn't claim they wee thinking even after N3sh came.

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Post #207 by greg503 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:44 pm

Sound4 wrote:
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Sound4 wrote:What other reason would they be? He didn't say anything he was reading or not not knowing the effect.

See, they were ASSUMING that you were waiting their response and needed time to think, which they assumed had been conveyed, and you assumed that they were totally cool with your effect. This is why silence is not consent, and never will be, ambiguity.

This doesn't really answer the question. You have no evidence they were thinking. They didn't claim they wee thinking even after N3sh came.

YOU have no evidence that they WEREN'T thinking. Also, if this is the replay I'm thinking about, they would care more about you getting your cards WRONG (Nachster).
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Post #208 by Renji Asuka » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:18 pm

Sound4 wrote:
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Sound4 wrote:I already said that I would have allowed the response if he responded quicker. I literally had advantage in the duel. Explain how I was at a "disadvantage" which I doubt you can. It is me being realistic there is no reason to take 10 seconds to respond especially when my opponent most likely already knew nachster 2nd effect as he didn't sat anything on him reading or not knowing the effect.

Doesn't matter, you still tried to deny his right to respond. End of story.

I also explained my reasoning.

And you're still wrong on the matter.
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Post #209 by REDxLEGIT » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:40 am

love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful

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Post #210 by Renji Asuka » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:42 am

Got to love how a new registered "user" only gives 1% of the story.

Since Slow Play never results in a freeze usually.

However because of this little screenshot Image we can say you were win trading. But that's only based off your win/loss ratio.

More than likely you were arguing with an admin, which then resulted in your freeze.
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Post #211 by troglyte » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:13 pm

REDxLEGIT wrote:love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful


Accusation require receipts.
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Post #212 by SHIFTY786 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:37 pm

How long does it take for judges to look at appeals?

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Post #213 by SHIFTY786 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:45 pm

REDxLEGIT wrote:love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful


This is the same judge that froze me for "slow playing"
These corrupt judges need to be stamped out.

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Post #214 by Genexwrecker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:14 pm

REDxLEGIT wrote:love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful

that is not what happened. you afkd in the game then magically left the moment the judge arrived. that being said you have submitted your appeal I advise you wait for it to be handled before complaining furthur.
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Post #215 by Christen57 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:40 pm

SHIFTY786 wrote:
REDxLEGIT wrote:love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful


This is the same judge that froze me for "slow playing"
These corrupt judges need to be stamped out.


Looking at your replay history, it's more likely that your freeze was due to you maliciously stalling and keeping your opponent waiting for no reason, forcing them to quit. https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=22420855

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Post #216 by Genexwrecker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:47 pm

SHIFTY786 wrote:
REDxLEGIT wrote:love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful


This is the same judge that froze me for "slow playing"
These corrupt judges need to be stamped out.

https://www.duelingbook.com/log?id=33961977

you literally held up the game over last turn because you were going to lose. you were frozen for deliberate stalling which makes sense.
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Post #217 by greg503 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:15 pm

Now this is yet another, "let's try and convince the forums that the judges aren't doing the right thing" thread
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Post #218 by SHIFTY786 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:18 pm

I called a judge for a ruling question how is that stalling?
Also I should have won because I had sangan which means I search for a monster and conduct the special battle phase.

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Post #219 by SHIFTY786 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:28 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:
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REDxLEGIT wrote:love how a judge gives a person a 3 day freeze for a slow play minor offense the judge Sahqovum is unfair rude and disrespectful


This is the same judge that froze me for "slow playing"
These corrupt judges need to be stamped out.

https://www.duelingbook.com/log?id=33961977

you literally held up the game over last turn because you were going to lose. you were frozen for deliberate stalling which makes sense.



Because waiting for a judge on a ruling question is stalling.
Lol the level of ignorance is unheard of.
Also why would I stall a game when theres a judge online literally makes 0 sense

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Post #220 by SHIFTY786 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:36 pm

Silence is golden


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