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[Jedx_EX]

Maybe his ignorance of the bigger picture is for the better. Imagine what would happen when he eventually gets banned. No entertainment in the forums, forever to wait for the next joke...

Ignoring a person is the virtue of the strong.
Logic.

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

What if they're doing fine ignoring a person? Does that mean they aren't so problematic?

[troglyte]

Ignoring a person is the virtue of the strong.
Logic.

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

What if they're doing fine ignoring a person? Does that mean they aren't so problematic?

Complaining about CM is like complaining about the weather. It doesn't matter how much you complain about the rain, it's still going to fall, and it will still keep coming back. The best thing you can do is to warn people about how rain will ruin your clothes.

[Renji Asuka]

Ignoring a person is the virtue of the strong.
Logic.

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

What if they're doing fine ignoring a person? Does that mean they aren't so problematic?

Imagine if everyone ignored Adolf Hitler.

[Lil Oldman]

Not wanting to be that guy, but technically speaking, if EVERYONE ignored him, WW2 would have never happened (because no one would give a fuck about him, not even his followers).

[Renji Asuka]

Not wanting to be that guy, but technically speaking, if EVERYONE ignored him, WW2 would have never happened (because no one would give a fuck about him, not even his followers).

I mean, he wasn't problematic until he already had power, and ignoring him after that point, would be deadly or we be taken over by Germany.

[Lil Oldman]

Not wanting to be that guy, but technically speaking, if EVERYONE ignored him, WW2 would have never happened (because no one would give a fuck about him, not even his followers).

I mean, he wasn't problematic until he already had power, and ignoring him after that point, would be deadly or we be taken over by Germany.

Yes, but the topic here is that A) Power means nothing if people don't care about it B) CM doesn't have any power

[Renji Asuka]

Not wanting to be that guy, but technically speaking, if EVERYONE ignored him, WW2 would have never happened (because no one would give a fuck about him, not even his followers).

I mean, he wasn't problematic until he already had power, and ignoring him after that point, would be deadly or we be taken over by Germany.

Yes, but the topic here is that A) Power means nothing if people don't care about it B) CM doesn't have any power

Its the principal of the thing. No matter the problem, once ignored, becomes a bigger problem that you may not be able to handle.

[Lil Oldman]

I mean, he wasn't problematic until he already had power, and ignoring him after that point, would be deadly or we be taken over by Germany.

Yes, but the topic here is that A) Power means nothing if people don't care about it B) CM doesn't have any power

Its the principal of the thing. No matter the problem, once ignored, becomes a bigger problem that you may not be able to handle.

true, but not all problems work like that, this world isn't about black and white or true and false but rather works in a gray scale. There are some problems that can be resolved by doing nothing. Remembering that CM is someone who enjoys being hated, giving him any kind of clout gives him satisfaction. Someone who entertains will stop if they don't get an audience.

[Debt]

Remembering that CM is someone who enjoys being hated, giving him any kind of clout gives him satisfaction. Someone who entertains will stop if they don't get an audience.

Except that's not the case for Crystal. He maintained the persona during the time between DN and DB on platforms like amino and youtube and if you believe /dng/ facebook despite not having an audience. Crystal is perfectly content of doing this without an audience. As long as he believes that he's gotten a reaction out of someone behind the screen it's enough for him to keep going.

[Lil Oldman]

Remembering that CM is someone who enjoys being hated, giving him any kind of clout gives him satisfaction. Someone who entertains will stop if they don't get an audience.

Except that's not the case for Crystal. He maintained the persona during the time between DN and DB on platforms like amino and youtube and if you believe /dng/ facebook. Crystal is perfectly content of doing this without an audience. As long as he believes that he's gotten a reaction out of someone behind the screen it's enough for him to keep going.

He is getting his audience, but you cannot change what's done, he always avoids most of my "Serious" posts where I just ask him questions or create a simple argument (No insults no nothing). point being, he has shown me that A) Stupid cannot compete with stupid-er and B) he dislikes or rather avoids impossible-to-cherry-pick posts.

[Renji Asuka]

Yes, but the topic here is that A) Power means nothing if people don't care about it B) CM doesn't have any power

Its the principal of the thing. No matter the problem, once ignored, becomes a bigger problem that you may not be able to handle.

true, but not all problems work like that, this world isn't about black and white or true and false but rather works in a gray scale. There are some problems that can be resolved by doing nothing. Remembering that CM is someone who enjoys being hated, giving him any kind of clout gives him satisfaction. Someone who entertains will stop if they don't get an audience.

Everything is black and white when it becomes categorized.

Example: Killing is "grey", but when add context, it will be 1 of 3 things.

Manslaughter (Bad)
Self Defense (Good)
Murder (Bad).

And when it falls under one of these 3 things, it is no longer a grey area. This applies to everything.

[DarwisBellium92]

Maybe his ignorance of the bigger picture is for the bettter. Imagine what would happen when he eventually gets banned. No entertainment in the forums, forever to wait for the next joke...

Ignoring a person is the virtue of the strong.
Logic.

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

If ignoring doesn't work, you need to find a way to forcibly ban it.

[greg503]

Ignoring a person is the virtue of the strong.
Logic.

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

If ignoring doesn't work, you need to find a way to forcibly ban it.

Well, that's up to the admins of DB to decide

[DarwisBellium92]

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

If ignoring doesn't work, you need to find a way to forcibly ban it.

Well, that's up to the admins of DB to decide

Right

[Jedx_EX]

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

What if they're doing fine ignoring a person? Does that mean they aren't so problematic?

Imagine if everyone ignored Adolf Hitler.

They weren't fine from that, so that doesn't apply.

Yeah....just saying, historically, ignoring a problematic person NEVER WORKS WELL.

What if they're doing fine ignoring a person? Does that mean they aren't so problematic?

Complaining about CM is like complaining about the weather. It doesn't matter how much you complain about the rain, it's still going to fall, and it will still keep coming back. The best thing you can do is to warn people about how rain will ruin your clothes.

But it takes 2 to argue in the forums.

[Lil Oldman]

Its the principal of the thing. No matter the problem, once ignored, becomes a bigger problem that you may not be able to handle.

true, but not all problems work like that, this world isn't about black and white or true and false but rather works in a gray scale. There are some problems that can be resolved by doing nothing. Remembering that CM is someone who enjoys being hated, giving him any kind of clout gives him satisfaction. Someone who entertains will stop if they don't get an audience.

Everything is black and white when it becomes categorized.

Example: Killing is "grey", but when add context, it will be 1 of 3 things.

Manslaughter (Bad)
Self Defense (Good)
Murder (Bad).

And when it falls under one of these 3 things, it is no longer a grey area. This applies to everything.

Very well then, you added a how, but you are still missing other context, like who. If I for example kill your Mother in self defense, will it be good? Or if the one being murdered is a terrorist, will it be bad? And for who will it be? All events in the world dont result in only one out come, there are multiple results depending on the person it happens to, the way it happens and who you ask. Furthermore, opinions will also change on certain topics and someone will not always think that certain thing will be good or bad.
Imagine this,
Someone gets banned. Good
It was a false ban. Bad
The person banned is someone you hate. Good?
What about the people who dont hate them?

Or

There are few judges online. Bad
They are the best of the best. Good?
People complains about there being few judges. Bad?

It isnt about whether or not you can say X or Y is good or bad, but thinking of everything it will cause, thinking about who will be affected and thinking about what other will think the same. Will CM getting banned be actually be a good thing? Will there be another entertainer as stupid as him? Will the forums keep this pace after he gets banned?
Ideologies are something hard to change, but I think they are easy to understand. It isnt that there are no absolutes in this world, but that not everything is an absolute.

[Renji Asuka]

true, but not all problems work like that, this world isn't about black and white or true and false but rather works in a gray scale. There are some problems that can be resolved by doing nothing. Remembering that CM is someone who enjoys being hated, giving him any kind of clout gives him satisfaction. Someone who entertains will stop if they don't get an audience.

Everything is black and white when it becomes categorized.

Example: Killing is "grey", but when add context, it will be 1 of 3 things.

Manslaughter (Bad)
Self Defense (Good)
Murder (Bad).

And when it falls under one of these 3 things, it is no longer a grey area. This applies to everything.

Very well then, you added a how, but you are still missing other context, like who. If I for example kill your Mother in self defense, will it be good? Or if the one being murdered is a terrorist, will it be bad? And for who will it be? All events in the world dont result in only one out come, there are multiple results depending on the person it happens to, the way it happens and who you ask. Furthermore, opinions will also change on certain topics and someone will not always think that certain thing will be good or bad.
Imagine this,
Someone gets banned. Good
It was a false ban. Bad
The person banned is someone you hate. Good?
What about the people who dont hate them?

Or

There are few judges online. Bad
They are the best of the best. Good?
People complains about there being few judges. Bad?

It isnt about whether or not you can say X or Y is good or bad, but thinking of everything it will cause, thinking about who will be affected and thinking about what other will think the same. Will CM getting banned be actually be a good thing? Will there be another entertainer as stupid as him? Will the forums keep this pace after he gets banned?
Ideologies are something hard to change, but I think they are easy to understand. It isnt that there are no absolutes in this world, but that not everything is an absolute.

Congratulations, you just agreed there is no "grey area".

[Lil Oldman]

Everything is black and white when it becomes categorized.

Example: Killing is "grey", but when add context, it will be 1 of 3 things.

Manslaughter (Bad)
Self Defense (Good)
Murder (Bad).

And when it falls under one of these 3 things, it is no longer a grey area. This applies to everything.

Very well then, you added a how, but you are still missing other context, like who. If I for example kill your Mother in self defense, will it be good? Or if the one being murdered is a terrorist, will it be bad? And for who will it be? All events in the world dont result in only one out come, there are multiple results depending on the person it happens to, the way it happens and who you ask. Furthermore, opinions will also change on certain topics and someone will not always think that certain thing will be good or bad.
Imagine this,
Someone gets banned. Good
It was a false ban. Bad
The person banned is someone you hate. Good?
What about the people who dont hate them?

Or

There are few judges online. Bad
They are the best of the best. Good?
People complains about there being few judges. Bad?

It isnt about whether or not you can say X or Y is good or bad, but thinking of everything it will cause, thinking about who will be affected and thinking about what other will think the same. Will CM getting banned be actually be a good thing? Will there be another entertainer as stupid as him? Will the forums keep this pace after he gets banned?
Ideologies are something hard to change, but I think they are easy to understand. It isnt that there are no absolutes in this world, but that not everything is an absolute.

Congratulations, you just agreed there is no "grey area".

Could you go a little deeper? I quite dont get it. I said that everything depends on the point of view, there are absolutes, but not all in the world is about absolutes.

[Renji Asuka]

Very well then, you added a how, but you are still missing other context, like who. If I for example kill your Mother in self defense, will it be good? Or if the one being murdered is a terrorist, will it be bad? And for who will it be? All events in the world dont result in only one out come, there are multiple results depending on the person it happens to, the way it happens and who you ask. Furthermore, opinions will also change on certain topics and someone will not always think that certain thing will be good or bad.
Imagine this,
Someone gets banned. Good
It was a false ban. Bad
The person banned is someone you hate. Good?
What about the people who dont hate them?

Or

There are few judges online. Bad
They are the best of the best. Good?
People complains about there being few judges. Bad?

It isnt about whether or not you can say X or Y is good or bad, but thinking of everything it will cause, thinking about who will be affected and thinking about what other will think the same. Will CM getting banned be actually be a good thing? Will there be another entertainer as stupid as him? Will the forums keep this pace after he gets banned?
Ideologies are something hard to change, but I think they are easy to understand. It isnt that there are no absolutes in this world, but that not everything is an absolute.

Congratulations, you just agreed there is no "grey area".

Could you go a little deeper? I quite dont get it. I said that everything depends on the point of view, there are absolutes, but not all in the world is about absolutes.

Simple, I gave examples of how the grey area exists until things are categorized. Then you proceeded to do the same thing that I did. Showing you agreed with the idea. I find it sad you didn't realize this.

[Lil Oldman]

Congratulations, you just agreed there is no "grey area".

Could you go a little deeper? I quite dont get it. I said that everything depends on the point of view, there are absolutes, but not all in the world is about absolutes.

Simple, I gave examples of how the grey area exists until things are categorized. Then you proceeded to do the same thing that I did. Showing you agreed with the idea. I find it sad you didn't realize this.

I think I get it now. Damn I hate philosophy.