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remove singles in ranked pools same reason TCG/OCG was remove... can be replaced with OCG rankings...

I support this. The point of ranked play is to be indicative of relative skill in the format. TCG/OCG pool from the DN days was removed from ranked play because it is not indicative of play in any real format. Neither are ranked singles. I'd prefer all rated play to be best of 3's and for the choices to be between the TCG and OCG formats.

I don't. Just let people play singles in peace. There's no issue with it, so let it be.

Rated is supposed to represent the competitive nature of a format and the events that occur within it. The TCG/OCG rated pool was removed because it didn't do this since there are no official TCG/OCG tournaments. Singles also do not do this as there are no official tournaments that are hosted with singles instead of matches. Singles are also far easier than matches and to lump a singles player onto the same pedestal as a match player is almost insulting. I fully support the abolition of rated singles and the introduction of separate TCG and OCG match rankings.

No one would have their 'right' to play singles taken away from them either. There's unrated for that.

The only option I see that is conducive to "ranked" and the spirit of competition via Official YGO would be solely TCG and OCG Ranked Matches.

[quote="Infidel RNG":1fqo8txr]Rated is supposed to represent the competitive nature of a format and the events that occur within it. The TCG/OCG rated pool was removed because it didn't do this since there are no official TCG/OCG tournaments. Singles also do not do this as there are no official tournaments that are hosted with singles instead of matches. Singles are also far easier than matches and to lump a singles player onto the same pedestal as a match player is almost insulting. I fully support the abolition of rated singles and the introduction of separate TCG and OCG match rankings.[/quote:1fqo8txr]


Well that's all fine and dandy, but what's the "Positive" side of removing something that doesn't "cause problems".

Why not just add a OCG rated pool and let singles active?

I hope they implement this asap...

remove singles, they're boring.

I play a lot of singles and i can say that singles serves no purpose in rated. Rated is supposed to simulate tournament play. However there are a bunch of freaking morons who go into singles and troll with a solitaire deck since it basically gaurntees them game 1 with no sideboard to oppose them. A person could make a good exodia deck and get top rankings if they go first as long as droll doesnt get dropped on them every game. Solitaire decks and anti meta are what dominate singles while being absolutely shitty and pathetic in matches. I'm tired of seeing things like stall burn and nurse burn players who have high rankings in singles call themselves good players.

[quote="Genexwrecker":38if3o23]I play a lot of singles and i can say that singles serves no purpose in rated. Rated is supposed to simulate tournament play. However there are a bunch of freaking morons who go into singles and troll with a solitaire deck since it basically gaurntees them game 1 with no sideboard to oppose them. A person could make a good exodia deck and get top rankings if they go first as long as droll doesnt get dropped on them every game. Solitaire decks and anti meta are what dominate singles while being absolutely shitty and pathetic in matches. I'm tired of seeing things like stall burn and nurse burn players who have high rankings in singles call themselves good players.[/quote:38if3o23]


1. If they call themselves "good players", get over it. It doesn't matter what they think if they cannot properly represent their Deck in a tournament display online. It's the goddamn internet. This doesn't require you to remove Singles. People might be idiots saying that, but in the end it doesn't matter.

Honestly, this is kinda petty. Its online you aren't competitive I don't see the problem.

who else spent more time looking at ice's avatar than they did reading the thread

Not everyone actually has time to or even wants to play matches. The current system works, no need to change that.

most beginners join singles to test their casual decks and people taking advantage of it to gain points... it can stay in pool so you can find people randomly but it should not be in rankings...

People do that in matches too point isn't valid.

All these single noobs....

People have preferences. System works. There's no issue. Let singles live in peace.

[quote="Monarch Snow":3ij0cuzo]People have preferences. System works. There's no issue. Let singles live in peace.[/quote:3ij0cuzo]

See? Single noobs everywhere...

we need to implement this asap...

I only play singles to test hands, other than that they serve no purpose.

Singles rated is just a way to get someone quick to play test hands with tbh.


give us OCG banlist ranked tbh we want 2 stratos option. implment ASAP

I pray they don't implement this. People have their preferences. Don't take a preference away that has no benefit.

This is a troll thread snow taking this seriously

[quote="Monarch Snow":2s6oqfyn]I pray they don't implement this. People have their preferences. Don't take a preference away that has no benefit.[/quote:2s6oqfyn]

i pray you die

Man maybe if Monarchs hubby laid the pipe regularly she wouldn't be so serious

cant blame husband man... he's a hero.. dealing with 250kg girl everyday. id rather die tbh

Tru you got a point,Twisted Soul take one for the team harpoon that whale

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No thanks. Not on my Christian forum.

I think people who play matches are unaffected by the people who choose to play singles. People who play matches choose to because that's what replicates real life yugioh, and it does that to quite a good degree. Meanwhile, if other people are playing singles in a different duel room, it literally has no impact on that person playing the matches.

Removing singles would upset a lot of the player base, as well as potentially throwing off users, leading to less active people and activity from them overall which is not what DB would want at all.

[quote="Respawn in 3":34xqsrc6]I think people who play matches are unaffected by the people who choose to play singles. People who play matches choose to because that's what replicates real life yugioh, and it does that to quite a good degree. Meanwhile, if other people are playing singles in a different duel room, it literally has no impact on that person playing the matches.

Removing singles would upset a lot of the player base, as well as potentially throwing off users, leading to less active people and activity from them overall which is not what DB would want at all.[/quote:34xqsrc6]


Well spoken now get back in bed.

why this is still not implemented?

I would lose interest in playing on dueling book if this was ever implemented. I enjoy singles and I hate unrated.

Singles is not a real competitive format of Yu-Gi-Oh!, those who play singles should stay out of the competitive meta. Games are literally won and lost because of who goes first. Literally the better you are at Rock Paper Scissors the better your chances are at being ranked #1 in Singles LMFAO.

All YGO players should be forced to learn about side decks or stay out of the competitive meta.


That being said, if you're fine with imaginary "competitive" duel rooms, go ahead and implement what should've been done WAY before that and make a rated pool for Goat Format.


Thanks.

[quote="Markus":1t7w276z]Singles is not a real competitive format of Yu-Gi-Oh!, those who play singles should stay out of the competitive meta. Games are literally won and lost because of who goes first. Literally the better you are at Rock Paper Scissors the better your chances are at being ranked #1 in Singles LMFAO.

All YGO players should be forced to learn about side decks or stay out of the competitive meta.


That being said, if you're fine with imaginary "competitive" duel rooms, go ahead and implement what should've been done WAY before that and make a rated pool for Goat Format.


Thanks.[/quote:1t7w276z]
False.

many people agreed on this... we need to implement this asap...

Implement die roll please. Rock Paper Scissors is NOT random for who goes first or second.

If you do rock paper scissors, the war league can become dumb and players will keep track of rock paper scissors ratios for their opponents.

Im kinda late to the discussion but i really like this idea!

- The luck factor is much higher in Singles making it not well suited for competitive play, in my opinion.
- It would also increase competition with the player base not being split.
- Unlike on DN, the rating system rewards a singles win more than a match win, for LESS time effort. Singles ratings are inflated for that reason. At least make it balanced if this doesnt get implemented.

I would love separate Rankings for TCG & OCG. Mebbe it would give some life to the OCG pool. Ratings would be reset whenever the OCG banlist changes instead of doing it the TCG way.

just have a goat pool and a tcg current pool

[quote="Markus":30tpb0vs]Implement die roll please. Rock Paper Scissors is NOT random for who goes first or second.[/quote:30tpb0vs]
I remember a DN admin saying the reason for RPS instead of the system randomly deciding is because he didn't want people bitching about the RNG favoring one person or the other. It was honestly really retarded and provided no reasoning as to why RPS was superior to RNG.

It was on the old Dueling Network forums, so good luck digging up that thread

The only thing to implement is a separate ranking for TCG and OCG. It makes no sense to me why ranking is integrated into both formats. In any case, Singles is for quick and dirty test deck runs, if you take rankings on Singles seriously (this is speaking from someone who went full wooper/Megumin and got -100 rating at a point) then you are playing the wrong pool.

Hardly anyone plays Ocg. Don't think there needs to be separate rankings for both. If someone wants to check how they are doing in tcg or ocg they can use their duel records to check that doesnt mean it needs to be displayed on their profile or in a specific ranking scheme. There is nothing wrong with singles or how the rating system currently is. If you play matches, singles shouldn't affect you so why change that? Honestly I see no point to any of this.

[quote="cherieontop":3ihom0uj]Im kinda late to the discussion but i really like this idea!

- The luck factor is much higher in Singles making it not well suited for competitive play, in my opinion.
- It would also increase competition with the player base not being split.
- Unlike on DN, the rating system rewards a singles win more than a match win, for LESS time effort. Singles ratings are inflated for that reason. At least make it balanced if this doesnt get implemented.

I would love separate Rankings for TCG & OCG. Mebbe it would give some life to the OCG pool. Ratings would be reset whenever the OCG banlist changes instead of doing it the TCG way.[/quote:3ihom0uj]


very true... they still have no idea they actually affecting matches by stealing the player base for easy games to gain rating... they didn't know playing matches will help them to get better at the game by playing the game how it should be played... The reason why no one is playing OCG is it doesn't have its own rankings... please implement this asap...

there are too few people on the website to have a matches and singles pool

that is why rating and matchmaking are so random right now, not enough players in each pool

condensing it only to matches will imrpoev competitiveness of the pool for only that reason

[quote="hahayadudesicklmao":13tz4982]there are too few people on the website to have a matches and singles pool

that is why rating and matchmaking are so random right now, not enough players in each pool

condensing it only to matches will imrpoev competitiveness of the pool for only that reason[/quote:13tz4982]
Doesn't mean the single players will then play matches.

[quote="Twisted Soul":wgrbgfy6][quote="hahayadudesicklmao":wgrbgfy6]there are too few people on the website to have a matches and singles pool

that is why rating and matchmaking are so random right now, not enough players in each pool

condensing it only to matches will imrpoev competitiveness of the pool for only that reason[/quote:wgrbgfy6]
Doesn't mean the single players will then play matches.[/quote:wgrbgfy6]
its more likely that they will instead of giving up on playing rated altogether, what a horrible argument

as it stands grinders from old skool dn dont see a reason to play rated on here, populate the pool and make it more stable and people will come

[quote="Twisted Soul":115qhp0w]Hardly anyone plays Ocg. Don't think there needs to be separate rankings for both. If someone wants to check how they are doing in tcg or ocg they can use their duel records to check that doesnt mean it needs to be displayed on their profile or in a specific ranking scheme. There is nothing wrong with singles or how the rating system currently is. If you play matches, singles shouldn't affect you so why change that? Honestly I see no point to any of this.[/quote:115qhp0w]

You have a nice point, but I have to disagree here. Ocg has the better banlist in my opinion and is also not being dominated by just a few decks so there is more variety in the meta, so a few people would still play it. There is nothing wrong with having separate rankings for TCG and OCG. People play Variety is very nice in this card game, so people can choose between tcg and ocg freely. OCG is also great for testing some new cards.

I think duel records should not matter since banlists change from time to time anyways.

OCG rankings would be almost meaningless since barely anyone plays it.

people would play OCG when it has its own rankings... same reason why people play singles even its not a proper format and doesn't even exist irl...

remove singles man why we even have it

btw if you're going to keep singles at least make sure you make it worth like half or 1/3rd of the value in exp etc that matches are so that there isn't extra incentive playing singles than matches. matches is the competitive format of yugioh so it should give you the most. i think that everyone should try to be the best at this game so its good to try and support that type of thing.

Gl with that.

remove singles. OCG Format needed!

multiple mods and several users agree with us. can we please implement this? who do i go to to get this done?

[quote="Markus":v57rbym3]multiple mods and several users agree with us. can we please implement this? who do i go to to get this done?[/quote:v57rbym3]
Just because a bunch of people ageee mean that this change will be done. We are Not able to fix auch things as non-programmers

HAHAHAHAHA NICE JOKE ocg is trash, nobody is interested in playing ocg, Duelingbook is tcg and it will always be like that.

No matter how many times you ask for it, that will never happen because nobody plays the crap ocg.

Match and singles is fine and honestly DB should eliminate ocg because almost nobody plays (nobody).

And if you like ocg so much, go to ygopro.

lol monarch snows contributions to this thread are so fucking sick

"There's no issue with singles. Let them be."

>explain many many issues with having rated singles

"There's no issue with singles. Let them be."

if its for fun then it isn't serious. ranked is for serious duelists. host fun games in unranked so the competitive duelists dont have to deal with people who dont give a shit.

yeah mmf i swear to god im so glad she got pregnant and had to leave this site. its always the tournament organizers like her ruining suggestion threads. how can you be a tournament organizer and be so noncompetitive? that doesn't make any fucking sense.

btw ocg is for asian countries and none of us live there or play those formats in a competitive scene so they're just as bad to keep around in ranked as singles. dueling book should simulate the competitive scene all around us.

Firstly I would appreciate if you don’t attack our tournament staff. Harsh criticism is fine. As for competitive, singles is not an official format but ocg is an official format and people do play it. I’m on the tournament team and I’m not competitive whatsoever but I still keep tabs on everything happening in the game a good chunk of our judge team doesn’t even duel

[quote="Markus":2pur4lmg]yeah mmf i swear to god im so glad she got pregnant and had to leave this site. its always the tournament organizers like her ruining suggestion threads. how can you be a tournament organizer and be so noncompetitive? that doesn't make any fucking sense.[/quote:2pur4lmg]

nigga I been supporting this idea and so do most TOs. Don't group Snow's opinion with the entirety of the Tos

Xtevenschannel please consider this. Thanks

I SUPPORT THIS! And I would be hurt most of all by the removal, considering I only play ranked singles. I want to play matches, just the queue times are much much too large.

I wish they will give this consideration

Probs never gonna happen GL doe.

Singles are in no way reflective of a competitive format but... sometimes you don't have the 20-40 minutes a duel can sometimes go and just want a quick match. I'd be fine with keeping the random matchup singles pool but stop acting like single games are reflective of anything and remove rating from it.

Single Games in Rated keeps Admins on the scent of all trolls who abuse singles and gets them the banhammer, matches not so much and more annoying time, if removed that annoyance would be the redirect as rated singles wouldn't be abusible with trolls.

I am against this idea for that above reason.

[quote="Marth":dd3e9xpx]Not everyone actually has time to or even wants to play matches. The current system works, no need to change that.[/quote:dd3e9xpx]
This. I play matches on rare occasions, but for the most part, those take too long and are exhausting.