Automate freezes/bans when someone uses racist slurs or any mentions of self-harm
parhelia_0000 | #1 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:09 PM | Delete | I've been noticing this trend in a lot of the DB duels myself and others have been playing in, whether it be advanced or customs. I play a meta deck or any custom deck I created, and my opponent starts insulting me by using racist/sexist slurs or even mentions self-harm/suicide in the chat. Yes, Report Abuse feature is an option; however, we shouldn't have to constantly resort to that every single time we deal with a toxic opponent. It's come to a point where players can no longer be trusted to show respect towards one another. Example replays where people who have zero concept of dignity/respect decide to insult their opponents with slurs and mentions of self-harm: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43198189https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43826971As such, I am requesting that select slurs/terminologies be used in an automated system to automatically freeze players after 3 warnings. The way it works is this - if a player uses certain terms in the duel chat, the automated system will kick in and prevent the chat from being posted, and will warn the player of the banned terms. After 3 warnings, the automated system will freeze the player. I understand that this will cause a lot of controversies, but I'm starting to get sick and tired of dealing with duelists who show no respect towards one another. I am hoping that with the introduction of the automated system, the admins will have one less thing to worry about and focus more of their attention towards dealing with rulings in rated games. Thank you. |
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PENMASTER | #2 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:32 PM | Delete | this is what happens you play customs kiddos |
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Genexwrecker | #3 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:47 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":1gdkg67x]I've been noticing this trend in a lot of the DB duels myself and others have been playing in, whether it be advanced or customs. I play a meta deck or any custom deck I created, and my opponent starts insulting me by using racist/sexist slurs or even mentions self-harm/suicide in the chat. Yes, Report Abuse feature is an option; however, we shouldn't have to constantly resort to that every single time we deal with a toxic opponent. It's come to a point where players can no longer be trusted to show respect towards one another. Example replays where people who have zero concept of dignity/respect decide to insult their opponents with slurs and mentions of self-harm: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43198189https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43826971As such, I am requesting that select slurs/terminologies be used in an automated system to automatically freeze players after 3 warnings. The way it works is this - if a player uses certain terms in the duel chat, the automated system will kick in and prevent the chat from being posted, and will warn the player of the banned terms. After 3 warnings, the automated system will freeze the player. I understand that this will cause a lot of controversies, but I'm starting to get sick and tired of dealing with duelists who show no respect towards one another. I am hoping that with the introduction of the automated system, the admins will have one less thing to worry about and focus more of their attention towards dealing with rulings in rated games. Thank you.[/quote:1gdkg67x]leaving freezes to an automated system is a very bad idea. The more we rely on a robot the less its regulated and more mistakes can occur. We cant train a bot like a real judge and I have a feeling a lot of illegitimate freezes would be issued. |
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parhelia_0000 | #4 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:52 PM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":2nw49agy][quote="parhelia_0000":2nw49agy]I've been noticing this trend in a lot of the DB duels myself and others have been playing in, whether it be advanced or customs. I play a meta deck or any custom deck I created, and my opponent starts insulting me by using racist/sexist slurs or even mentions self-harm/suicide in the chat. Yes, Report Abuse feature is an option; however, we shouldn't have to constantly resort to that every single time we deal with a toxic opponent. It's come to a point where players can no longer be trusted to show respect towards one another. Example replays where people who have zero concept of dignity/respect decide to insult their opponents with slurs and mentions of self-harm: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43198189https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43826971As such, I am requesting that select slurs/terminologies be used in an automated system to automatically freeze players after 3 warnings. The way it works is this - if a player uses certain terms in the duel chat, the automated system will kick in and prevent the chat from being posted, and will warn the player of the banned terms. After 3 warnings, the automated system will freeze the player. I understand that this will cause a lot of controversies, but I'm starting to get sick and tired of dealing with duelists who show no respect towards one another. I am hoping that with the introduction of the automated system, the admins will have one less thing to worry about and focus more of their attention towards dealing with rulings in rated games. Thank you.[/quote:2nw49agy]leaving freezes to an automated system is a very bad idea. The more we rely on a robot the less its regulated and more mistakes can occur. We cant train a bot like a real judge and I have a feeling a lot of illegitimate freezes would be issued.[/quote:2nw49agy] While I do understand the concerns of dealing with illegitimate freezes, there is an even bigger issue of DB players going a step TOO far and encouraging self-harm. The last thing I want to deal with is another @Shadow Player 2.0 who encourages self-harm/suicide. And rest assured, a report has already been made based on this duel. However, I do feel the need to call people out when things go too far. It's coming to a point where DB is becoming YSFlight 2.0. I'm not making this up, I used to be part of that flight sim community and even they had a few members who actively encouraged self-harm. I want to see DB admins enforcing at least SOMETHING that will protect members like me from toxic members who think that the topic of self-harm/suicide is nothing more than a joke. |
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greg503 | #5 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:19 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":1mjpqw0s][quote="Genexwrecker":1mjpqw0s][quote="parhelia_0000":1mjpqw0s]I've been noticing this trend in a lot of the DB duels myself and others have been playing in, whether it be advanced or customs. I play a meta deck or any custom deck I created, and my opponent starts insulting me by using racist/sexist slurs or even mentions self-harm/suicide in the chat. Yes, Report Abuse feature is an option; however, we shouldn't have to constantly resort to that every single time we deal with a toxic opponent. It's come to a point where players can no longer be trusted to show respect towards one another. Example replays where people who have zero concept of dignity/respect decide to insult their opponents with slurs and mentions of self-harm: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43198189https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43826971As such, I am requesting that select slurs/terminologies be used in an automated system to automatically freeze players after 3 warnings. The way it works is this - if a player uses certain terms in the duel chat, the automated system will kick in and prevent the chat from being posted, and will warn the player of the banned terms. After 3 warnings, the automated system will freeze the player. I understand that this will cause a lot of controversies, but I'm starting to get sick and tired of dealing with duelists who show no respect towards one another. I am hoping that with the introduction of the automated system, the admins will have one less thing to worry about and focus more of their attention towards dealing with rulings in rated games. Thank you.[/quote:1mjpqw0s]leaving freezes to an automated system is a very bad idea. The more we rely on a robot the less its regulated and more mistakes can occur. We cant train a bot like a real judge and I have a feeling a lot of illegitimate freezes would be issued.[/quote:1mjpqw0s] While I do understand the concerns of dealing with illegitimate freezes, there is an even bigger issue of DB players going a step TOO far and encouraging self-harm. The last thing I want to deal with is another @Shadow Player 2.0 who encourages self-harm/suicide. And rest assured, a report has already been made based on this duel. However, I do feel the need to call people out when things go too far. It's coming to a point where DB is becoming YSFlight 2.0. I'm not making this up, I used to be part of that flight sim community and even they had a few members who actively encouraged self-harm. I want to see DB admins enforcing at least SOMETHING that will protect members like me from toxic members who think that the topic of self-harm/suicide is nothing more than a joke.[/quote:1mjpqw0s] This is what we have posting.php?mode=post&f=7 for |
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Fredblade | #6 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:42 PM | Delete | >Makes broken OP customs that are not fun to anyone >Gets called out for it >Starts to make strawman arguments like "muh meta decks" and scolds people about "muh competitive yugioh" >"Why are people so rude to me?" |
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Christen57 | #7 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:02 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":6kprpwlz][quote="Genexwrecker":6kprpwlz][quote="parhelia_0000":6kprpwlz]I've been noticing this trend in a lot of the DB duels myself and others have been playing in, whether it be advanced or customs. I play a meta deck or any custom deck I created, and my opponent starts insulting me by using racist/sexist slurs or even mentions self-harm/suicide in the chat. Yes, Report Abuse feature is an option; however, we shouldn't have to constantly resort to that every single time we deal with a toxic opponent. It's come to a point where players can no longer be trusted to show respect towards one another. Example replays where people who have zero concept of dignity/respect decide to insult their opponents with slurs and mentions of self-harm: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43198189https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43826971As such, I am requesting that select slurs/terminologies be used in an automated system to automatically freeze players after 3 warnings. The way it works is this - if a player uses certain terms in the duel chat, the automated system will kick in and prevent the chat from being posted, and will warn the player of the banned terms. After 3 warnings, the automated system will freeze the player. I understand that this will cause a lot of controversies, but I'm starting to get sick and tired of dealing with duelists who show no respect towards one another. I am hoping that with the introduction of the automated system, the admins will have one less thing to worry about and focus more of their attention towards dealing with rulings in rated games. Thank you.[/quote:6kprpwlz]leaving freezes to an automated system is a very bad idea. The more we rely on a robot the less its regulated and more mistakes can occur. We cant train a bot like a real judge and I have a feeling a lot of illegitimate freezes would be issued.[/quote:6kprpwlz] While I do understand the concerns of dealing with illegitimate freezes, there is an even bigger issue of DB players going a step TOO far and encouraging self-harm. The last thing I want to deal with is another @Shadow Player 2.0 who encourages self-harm/suicide. And rest assured, a report has already been made based on this duel. However, I do feel the need to call people out when things go too far. It's coming to a point where DB is becoming YSFlight 2.0. I'm not making this up, I used to be part of that flight sim community and even they had a few members who actively encouraged self-harm. I want to see DB admins enforcing at least SOMETHING that will protect members like me from toxic members who think that the topic of self-harm/suicide is nothing more than a joke.[/quote:6kprpwlz] There's no need for you or anyone else to be "protected" from toxic users on the site, unless you simply stay off the site. If people are being too toxic, you let the staff handle it, but the staff cannot and will not stop that toxicity from starting in the first place — they can only, and will only, punish it. Also, Genexwrecker's right. Relying on artificial intelligence to act as a judge in any duel is nowhere near feasible at this time, as we haven't reached that point where artificial intelligence is advanced enough, and suitable enough, for that. Too many things would go wrong. What if someone says a bad word completely by accident, like saying the F-word when they meant to say "Duck" because they accidentally hit the F key (right next to the D key on the keyboard) instead of the D key, or saying "Shit" when they meant to say "Shut" or "Shot"? What if someone says a word that the system thinks is a bad word but really isn't (which does happen in customs, when the system was mistaking harmless words like " Buggy," " Thorny," " Cucumber," " Pussycat," and " Leafage" as bad words in the past and still sometimes mistakes harmless words as bad words)? I currently can't make any custom with "pussycat" in it (it will say it's inappropriate for public use) even though duelingbook has a card called Nekogal #1 whose flavor text literally says " A pussycat-fairy. Contrary to her lovely beauty, she claws on her enemies." These are things artificial intelligence can't take into consideration (that it would need to) because it's not yet advanced enough to. |
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parhelia_0000 | #8 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:27 PM | Delete | [quote="Christen57":2oy8abc1][quote="parhelia_0000":2oy8abc1][quote="Genexwrecker":2oy8abc1]leaving freezes to an automated system is a very bad idea. The more we rely on a robot the less its regulated and more mistakes can occur. We cant train a bot like a real judge and I have a feeling a lot of illegitimate freezes would be issued.[/quote:2oy8abc1] While I do understand the concerns of dealing with illegitimate freezes, there is an even bigger issue of DB players going a step TOO far and encouraging self-harm. The last thing I want to deal with is another @Shadow Player 2.0 who encourages self-harm/suicide. And rest assured, a report has already been made based on this duel. However, I do feel the need to call people out when things go too far. It's coming to a point where DB is becoming YSFlight 2.0. I'm not making this up, I used to be part of that flight sim community and even they had a few members who actively encouraged self-harm. I want to see DB admins enforcing at least SOMETHING that will protect members like me from toxic members who think that the topic of self-harm/suicide is nothing more than a joke.[/quote:2oy8abc1] There's no need for you or anyone else to be "protected" from toxic users on the site, unless you simply stay off the site. If people are being too toxic, you let the staff handle it, but the staff cannot and will not stop that toxicity from starting in the first place — they can only, and will only, punish it. Also, Genexwrecker's right. Relying on artificial intelligence to act as a judge in any duel is nowhere near feasible at this time, as we haven't reached that point where artificial intelligence is advanced enough, and suitable enough, for that. Too many things would go wrong. What if someone says a bad word completely by accident, like saying the F-word when they meant to say "Duck" because they accidentally hit the F key (right next to the D key on the keyboard) instead of the D key, or saying "Shit" when they meant to say "Shut" or "Shot"? What if someone says a word that the system thinks is a bad word but really isn't (which does happen in customs, when the system was mistaking harmless words like " Buggy," " Thorny," " Cucumber," " Pussycat," and " Leafage" as bad words in the past and still sometimes mistakes harmless words as bad words)? I currently can't make any custom with "pussycat" in it (it will say it's inappropriate for public use) even though duelingbook has a card called Nekogal #1 whose flavor text literally says " A pussycat-fairy. Contrary to her lovely beauty, she claws on her enemies." These are things artificial intelligence can't take into consideration (that it would need to) because it's not yet advanced enough to.[/quote:2oy8abc1] 1. AI technology is getting better and better with every iteration. Ever heard of Moore's Law? With faster processing technology, automation becomes more and more efficient, and as such, we can rule out the possibility that the AI will make mistakes. 2. Since DB is originally designed to be a desktop platform and there's no plans for mobile compatibility, there should be NO excuse as to why people would be making silly typos that could result in "accidental" terms being spurred out (unless of course, you have butter fingers, in which case, carry on). 3. There are ways to make the system specifically target words that are offensive. I've seen it done with Discord bots, and if they can do it, why not DB? |
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Renji Asuka | #9 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:32 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":1f8ya7zx][quote="Christen57":1f8ya7zx][quote="parhelia_0000":1f8ya7zx] While I do understand the concerns of dealing with illegitimate freezes, there is an even bigger issue of DB players going a step TOO far and encouraging self-harm. The last thing I want to deal with is another @Shadow Player 2.0 who encourages self-harm/suicide. And rest assured, a report has already been made based on this duel. However, I do feel the need to call people out when things go too far. It's coming to a point where DB is becoming YSFlight 2.0. I'm not making this up, I used to be part of that flight sim community and even they had a few members who actively encouraged self-harm. I want to see DB admins enforcing at least SOMETHING that will protect members like me from toxic members who think that the topic of self-harm/suicide is nothing more than a joke.[/quote:1f8ya7zx] There's no need for you or anyone else to be "protected" from toxic users on the site, unless you simply stay off the site. If people are being too toxic, you let the staff handle it, but the staff cannot and will not stop that toxicity from starting in the first place — they can only, and will only, punish it. Also, Genexwrecker's right. Relying on artificial intelligence to act as a judge in any duel is nowhere near feasible at this time, as we haven't reached that point where artificial intelligence is advanced enough, and suitable enough, for that. Too many things would go wrong. What if someone says a bad word completely by accident, like saying the F-word when they meant to say "Duck" because they accidentally hit the F key (right next to the D key on the keyboard) instead of the D key, or saying "Shit" when they meant to say "Shut" or "Shot"? What if someone says a word that the system thinks is a bad word but really isn't (which does happen in customs, when the system was mistaking harmless words like " Buggy," " Thorny," " Cucumber," " Pussycat," and " Leafage" as bad words in the past and still sometimes mistakes harmless words as bad words)? I currently can't make any custom with "pussycat" in it (it will say it's inappropriate for public use) even though duelingbook has a card called Nekogal #1 whose flavor text literally says " A pussycat-fairy. Contrary to her lovely beauty, she claws on her enemies." These are things artificial intelligence can't take into consideration (that it would need to) because it's not yet advanced enough to.[/quote:1f8ya7zx] 1. AI technology is getting better and better with every iteration. Ever heard of Moore's Law? With faster processing technology, automation becomes more and more efficient, and as such, we can rule out the possibility that the AI will make mistakes. 2. Since DB is originally designed to be a desktop platform and there's no plans for mobile compatibility, there should be NO excuse as to why people would be making silly typos that could result in "accidental" terms being spurred out (unless of course, you have butter fingers, in which case, carry on). 3. There are ways to make the system specifically target words that are offensive. I've seen it done with Discord bots, and if they can do it, why not DB?[/quote:1f8ya7zx] Meanwhile Google, Twitter, and Facebook use AI to ban people and 9/10, it was wrongful termination |
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Genexwrecker | #10 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:28 PM | Delete | you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point. |
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Genexwrecker | #11 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:28 PM | Delete | [quote="Renji Asuka":2tar9ay7][quote="parhelia_0000":2tar9ay7][quote="Christen57":2tar9ay7] There's no need for you or anyone else to be "protected" from toxic users on the site, unless you simply stay off the site. If people are being too toxic, you let the staff handle it, but the staff cannot and will not stop that toxicity from starting in the first place — they can only, and will only, punish it. Also, Genexwrecker's right. Relying on artificial intelligence to act as a judge in any duel is nowhere near feasible at this time, as we haven't reached that point where artificial intelligence is advanced enough, and suitable enough, for that. Too many things would go wrong. What if someone says a bad word completely by accident, like saying the F-word when they meant to say "Duck" because they accidentally hit the F key (right next to the D key on the keyboard) instead of the D key, or saying "Shit" when they meant to say "Shut" or "Shot"? What if someone says a word that the system thinks is a bad word but really isn't (which does happen in customs, when the system was mistaking harmless words like " Buggy," " Thorny," " Cucumber," " Pussycat," and " Leafage" as bad words in the past and still sometimes mistakes harmless words as bad words)? I currently can't make any custom with "pussycat" in it (it will say it's inappropriate for public use) even though duelingbook has a card called Nekogal #1 whose flavor text literally says " A pussycat-fairy. Contrary to her lovely beauty, she claws on her enemies." These are things artificial intelligence can't take into consideration (that it would need to) because it's not yet advanced enough to.[/quote:2tar9ay7] 1. AI technology is getting better and better with every iteration. Ever heard of Moore's Law? With faster processing technology, automation becomes more and more efficient, and as such, we can rule out the possibility that the AI will make mistakes. 2. Since DB is originally designed to be a desktop platform and there's no plans for mobile compatibility, there should be NO excuse as to why people would be making silly typos that could result in "accidental" terms being spurred out (unless of course, you have butter fingers, in which case, carry on). 3. There are ways to make the system specifically target words that are offensive. I've seen it done with Discord bots, and if they can do it, why not DB?[/quote:2tar9ay7] Meanwhile Google, Twitter, and Facebook use AI to ban people and 9/10, it was wrongful termination[/quote:2tar9ay7] you forgot youtube |
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Genexwrecker | #12 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:34 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":ufwl6ti1][quote="Christen57":ufwl6ti1][quote="parhelia_0000":ufwl6ti1] While I do understand the concerns of dealing with illegitimate freezes, there is an even bigger issue of DB players going a step TOO far and encouraging self-harm. The last thing I want to deal with is another @Shadow Player 2.0 who encourages self-harm/suicide. And rest assured, a report has already been made based on this duel. However, I do feel the need to call people out when things go too far. It's coming to a point where DB is becoming YSFlight 2.0. I'm not making this up, I used to be part of that flight sim community and even they had a few members who actively encouraged self-harm. I want to see DB admins enforcing at least SOMETHING that will protect members like me from toxic members who think that the topic of self-harm/suicide is nothing more than a joke.[/quote:ufwl6ti1] There's no need for you or anyone else to be "protected" from toxic users on the site, unless you simply stay off the site. If people are being too toxic, you let the staff handle it, but the staff cannot and will not stop that toxicity from starting in the first place — they can only, and will only, punish it. Also, Genexwrecker's right. Relying on artificial intelligence to act as a judge in any duel is nowhere near feasible at this time, as we haven't reached that point where artificial intelligence is advanced enough, and suitable enough, for that. Too many things would go wrong. What if someone says a bad word completely by accident, like saying the F-word when they meant to say "Duck" because they accidentally hit the F key (right next to the D key on the keyboard) instead of the D key, or saying "Shit" when they meant to say "Shut" or "Shot"? What if someone says a word that the system thinks is a bad word but really isn't (which does happen in customs, when the system was mistaking harmless words like " Buggy," " Thorny," " Cucumber," " Pussycat," and " Leafage" as bad words in the past and still sometimes mistakes harmless words as bad words)? I currently can't make any custom with "pussycat" in it (it will say it's inappropriate for public use) even though duelingbook has a card called Nekogal #1 whose flavor text literally says " A pussycat-fairy. Contrary to her lovely beauty, she claws on her enemies." These are things artificial intelligence can't take into consideration (that it would need to) because it's not yet advanced enough to.[/quote:ufwl6ti1] 1. AI technology is getting better and better with every iteration. Ever heard of Moore's Law? With faster processing technology, automation becomes more and more efficient, and as such, we can rule out the possibility that the AI will make mistakes. 2. Since DB is originally designed to be a desktop platform and there's no plans for mobile compatibility, there should be NO excuse as to why people would be making silly typos that could result in "accidental" terms being spurred out (unless of course, you have butter fingers, in which case, carry on). 3. There are ways to make the system specifically target words that are offensive. I've seen it done with Discord bots, and if they can do it, why not DB?[/quote:ufwl6ti1] 1.) no no it is not lol. The more it evolves the worse it has become. Have you seen the car AIs for autopilot? they have killed over a dozen people since their inception and tests. 2.) You dont know what we have plans for. I do but you dont. 3.) Specifically targeting words is the exact problem with the suggestion. all words can be used in a non offensive manner and context. yes including the n word. I myself have posted the n word on the site in some form that nobody can actually see and your bot system would get every single judge banned. 2 friends could also just be having a conversation that just happens to include f bombs and your feature would target that as well. |
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parhelia_0000 | #13 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:49 PM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":2idudia2]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:2idudia2] While blocking people is a valid option, it won't stop them from slandering me in front of everyone else in DB. I've unfortunately seen too many cases of people either using Duel Notes or Statuses to brag about their wins and call people they beat "noobs/losers/any other derogatory term, etc." leading to everyone else joining in the bullying party.
And I'm not even talking about just myself. I've even seen other duelists who are genuinely looking for fair games get attacked like that too, such as those who are looking to duel in old DM/GX season formats. |
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Renji Asuka | #14 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:52 PM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":1b31zeoq][quote="Renji Asuka":1b31zeoq][quote="parhelia_0000":1b31zeoq] 1. AI technology is getting better and better with every iteration. Ever heard of Moore's Law? With faster processing technology, automation becomes more and more efficient, and as such, we can rule out the possibility that the AI will make mistakes. 2. Since DB is originally designed to be a desktop platform and there's no plans for mobile compatibility, there should be NO excuse as to why people would be making silly typos that could result in "accidental" terms being spurred out (unless of course, you have butter fingers, in which case, carry on). 3. There are ways to make the system specifically target words that are offensive. I've seen it done with Discord bots, and if they can do it, why not DB?[/quote:1b31zeoq] Meanwhile Google, Twitter, and Facebook use AI to ban people and 9/10, it was wrongful termination[/quote:1b31zeoq] you forgot youtube[/quote:1b31zeoq] Google owns youtube so  |
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Genexwrecker | #15 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:56 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":20bs6hx2][quote="Genexwrecker":20bs6hx2]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:20bs6hx2] While blocking people is a valid option, it won't stop them from slandering me in front of everyone else in DB. I've unfortunately seen too many cases of people either using Duel Notes or Statuses to brag about their wins and call people they beat "noobs/losers/any other derogatory term, etc." leading to everyone else joining in the bullying party.
And I'm not even talking about just myself. I've even seen other duelists who are genuinely looking for fair games get attacked like that too, such as those who are looking to duel in old DM/GX season formats.[/quote:20bs6hx2]and when that occurs report it and we will act accordingly |
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Lil Oldman | #16 | Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:08 PM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":b3r7gx8d][quote="parhelia_0000":b3r7gx8d][quote="Christen57":b3r7gx8d] There's no need for you or anyone else to be "protected" from toxic users on the site, unless you simply stay off the site. If people are being too toxic, you let the staff handle it, but the staff cannot and will not stop that toxicity from starting in the first place — they can only, and will only, punish it. Also, Genexwrecker's right. Relying on artificial intelligence to act as a judge in any duel is nowhere near feasible at this time, as we haven't reached that point where artificial intelligence is advanced enough, and suitable enough, for that. Too many things would go wrong. What if someone says a bad word completely by accident, like saying the F-word when they meant to say "Duck" because they accidentally hit the F key (right next to the D key on the keyboard) instead of the D key, or saying "Shit" when they meant to say "Shut" or "Shot"? What if someone says a word that the system thinks is a bad word but really isn't (which does happen in customs, when the system was mistaking harmless words like " Buggy," " Thorny," " Cucumber," " Pussycat," and " Leafage" as bad words in the past and still sometimes mistakes harmless words as bad words)? I currently can't make any custom with "pussycat" in it (it will say it's inappropriate for public use) even though duelingbook has a card called Nekogal #1 whose flavor text literally says " A pussycat-fairy. Contrary to her lovely beauty, she claws on her enemies." These are things artificial intelligence can't take into consideration (that it would need to) because it's not yet advanced enough to.[/quote:b3r7gx8d] 1. AI technology is getting better and better with every iteration. Ever heard of Moore's Law? With faster processing technology, automation becomes more and more efficient, and as such, we can rule out the possibility that the AI will make mistakes. 2. Since DB is originally designed to be a desktop platform and there's no plans for mobile compatibility, there should be NO excuse as to why people would be making silly typos that could result in "accidental" terms being spurred out (unless of course, you have butter fingers, in which case, carry on). 3. There are ways to make the system specifically target words that are offensive. I've seen it done with Discord bots, and if they can do it, why not DB?[/quote:b3r7gx8d] 1.) no no it is not lol. The more it evolves the worse it has become. Have you seen the car AIs for autopilot? they have killed over a dozen people since their inception and tests. 2.) You dont know what we have plans for. I do but you dont. 3.) Specifically targeting words is the exact problem with the suggestion. all words can be used in a non offensive manner and context. yes including the n word. I myself have posted the n word on the site in some form that nobody can actually see and your bot system would get every single judge banned. 2 friends could also just be having a conversation that just happens to include f bombs and your feature would target that as well.[/quote:b3r7gx8d] Playing devil's advocate here on No. 1. How many people have regular drivers killed? The AI driver argument is more of a confirmation bias more than anything. |
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PENMASTER | #17 | Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:38 PM | Delete | if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly. ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI |
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Renji Asuka | #18 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:44 AM | Delete | [quote="PENMASTER":3lq030nf]if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly. ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI[/quote:3lq030nf] That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.
Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law. |
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Renji Asuka | #19 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:44 AM | Delete | [quote="PENMASTER":2bfpmdp6]if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly. ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI[/quote:2bfpmdp6] That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.
Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law. |
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parhelia_0000 | #20 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:06 AM | Delete | [quote="Renji Asuka":1210k1fg][quote="PENMASTER":1210k1fg]if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly. ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI[/quote:1210k1fg] That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.
Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.[/quote:1210k1fg] Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.
It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.
Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters. |
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Renji Asuka | #21 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:24 AM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":118j5l2p][quote="Renji Asuka":118j5l2p][quote="PENMASTER":118j5l2p]if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly. ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI[/quote:118j5l2p] That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.
Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.[/quote:118j5l2p] Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.
It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.
Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters.[/quote:118j5l2p] They understand the severity, but they are only going to deal with it when it happens. It isn't accepted in Duelingbook. |
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Genexwrecker | #22 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:34 AM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":3gr9tay2][quote="Renji Asuka":3gr9tay2][quote="PENMASTER":3gr9tay2]if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly. ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI[/quote:3gr9tay2] That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.
Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.[/quote:3gr9tay2] Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.
It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.
Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters.[/quote:3gr9tay2]
telling people to kill themselves or tellin them you are going to harm them are indeed crimes in most countries. that is why its one of the highest penalties on the site. I myself think that any death threat should be met with an instant permanent ban but thats just me. we have our penalty system and even if we did permanently ban people who made such threats. the ones who actually care to make those threats are going to just ban evade and keep doing it anyway same with facebook and twitter. The ammount of effort and resources required to get a random person on the internet arrested for telling you to kill yourself or threatening to blow up your house is massive and unrealistic especially if they are using a protected vpn. threats on the internet and threats irl are just generally handled differently and that is just the nature of things. he anonimity of the internet can be a good and bad thing. |
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parhelia_0000 | #23 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:06 PM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":1h8fmspy][quote="parhelia_0000":1h8fmspy][quote="Renji Asuka":1h8fmspy] That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.
Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.[/quote:1h8fmspy] Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.
It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.
Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters.[/quote:1h8fmspy]
telling people to kill themselves or tellin them you are going to harm them are indeed crimes in most countries. that is why its one of the highest penalties on the site. I myself think that any death threat should be met with an instant permanent ban but thats just me. we have our penalty system and even if we did permanently ban people who made such threats. the ones who actually care to make those threats are going to just ban evade and keep doing it anyway same with facebook and twitter. The ammount of effort and resources required to get a random person on the internet arrested for telling you to kill yourself or threatening to blow up your house is massive and unrealistic especially if they are using a protected vpn. threats on the internet and threats irl are just generally handled differently and that is just the nature of things. he anonimity of the internet can be a good and bad thing.[/quote:1h8fmspy] You and me both in terms of the penalties for death threats. I guess we both share a common interest in keeping DB a safe environment for everyone after all. Having said that, I understand where you're coming from, programming bots is difficult for all I know (nobody said programming in Python would be easy, that's for sure), and I'm sure the upkeep would be difficult.
Although, I do wish there were better ways members could be protected, but I guess that's just me. |
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Lil Oldman | #24 | Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:54 PM | Delete | * proceeds to call tag partners idiots * |
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Christen57 | #25 | Sat Nov 5, 2022 3:50 PM | Delete | Apparently, even though we haven't gotten any automatic freeze/ban system in place, we have actual bots like the Google Bot reporting stuff to the admins. |
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Lil Oldman | #26 | Sat Nov 5, 2022 11:18 PM | Delete | I thought the bots simply inputed stuff at random. |
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SPA-ghetto pizza | #27 | Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:56 PM | Delete | KITTYTROUBLE WHY DID U FREEZE ME CLAIMING I DID SOMETHING ABOUT TRIPLE TACTICS TALENT WHEN I WAS ALREADY FROZEN FOR 3 DAYS IT COULDNT POSSIBLY BE ME.
FROZE ME FOR NO VALID REASON |
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Lil Oldman | #28 | Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:08 PM | Delete | me when: [url:2dbat3hy]https://forum.duelingbook.com/posting.php?mode=post&f=6[/url:2dbat3hy] or [url:2dbat3hy]https://forum.duelingbook.com/posting.php?mode=post&f=7[/url:2dbat3hy], not actually sure which is which. |
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TheRoyalAu | #29 | Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:20 PM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":3oxv4mpu]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:3oxv4mpu]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely. |
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greg503 | #30 | Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:44 PM | Delete | [quote="TheRoyalAu":3v5niz8z][quote="Genexwrecker":3v5niz8z]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:3v5niz8z]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:3v5niz8z] The DB Discord? |
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itsmetristan | #31 | Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:41 PM | Delete | [quote="TheRoyalAu":14ke8f5j][quote="Genexwrecker":14ke8f5j]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:14ke8f5j]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:14ke8f5j] Ping a moderator. You can also block them. |
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TheRoyalAu | #32 | Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:43 PM | Delete | [quote="greg503":p2ksee49][quote="TheRoyalAu":p2ksee49][quote="Genexwrecker":p2ksee49]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:p2ksee49]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:p2ksee49] The DB Discord?[/quote:p2ksee49]
Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves. |
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TheRoyalAu | #33 | Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:45 PM | Delete | [quote="itsmetristan":314qw4jh][quote="TheRoyalAu":314qw4jh][quote="Genexwrecker":314qw4jh]you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.[/quote:314qw4jh]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:314qw4jh] Ping a moderator. You can also block them.[/quote:314qw4jh]
It doesn't matter sir, Shattered Sky along with Madi agreed with the entire Discord.
I think the site needs better complying people such as myself along with the author of this post, because we seem to understand, like yourself, what a ToS is. |
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TheRoyalAu | #34 | Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:47 PM | Delete | [quote="SPA-ghetto pizza":jmqsw7m6]KITTYTROUBLE WHY DID U FREEZE ME CLAIMING I DID SOMETHING ABOUT TRIPLE TACTICS TALENT WHEN I WAS ALREADY FROZEN FOR 3 DAYS IT COULDNT POSSIBLY BE ME.
FROZE ME FOR NO VALID REASON[/quote:jmqsw7m6]
I hope you get f***ing banned mate. I know what your like in duels.
User promotes rape, lower aged consent for breeding, which is f***ing disgusting.....
Oh my good lord, the amount of time I'd ban them from the site for whilst complying with its Judge based rules. |
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itsmetristan | #35 | Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:45 PM | Delete | [quote="TheRoyalAu":52lwp2qn][quote="itsmetristan":52lwp2qn][quote="TheRoyalAu":52lwp2qn]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:52lwp2qn] Ping a moderator. You can also block them.[/quote:52lwp2qn]
It doesn't matter sir, Shattered Sky along with Madi agreed with the entire Discord.
I think the site needs better complying people such as myself along with the author of this post, because we seem to understand, like yourself, what a ToS is.[/quote:52lwp2qn] If two mods came to that conclusion, I find it incredibly hard to believe you're the victim here. |
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Renji Asuka | #36 | Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:22 PM | Delete | [quote="TheRoyalAu":1wsttl3h][quote="greg503":1wsttl3h][quote="TheRoyalAu":1wsttl3h]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:1wsttl3h] The DB Discord?[/quote:1wsttl3h]
Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.[/quote:1wsttl3h] Have you ever considered that your behavior may had make it worse to get yourself removed from the discord? |
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Genexwrecker | #37 | Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:52 AM | Delete | [quote="TheRoyalAu":39n26b2q][quote="greg503":39n26b2q][quote="TheRoyalAu":39n26b2q]
This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.[/quote:39n26b2q] The DB Discord?[/quote:39n26b2q]
Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.[/quote:39n26b2q]pretty sure I saw you retaliate in a very inappropriate manner on the discord which is probably why ur banned. |
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TheRoyalAu | #38 | Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:20 AM | Delete | [quote="Genexwrecker":1ulykksf][quote="TheRoyalAu":1ulykksf][quote="greg503":1ulykksf] The DB Discord?[/quote:1ulykksf] Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.[/quote:1ulykksf]pretty sure I saw you retaliate in a very inappropriate manner on the discord which is probably why ur banned.[/quote:1ulykksf] At the end of the day, this exists: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Bu ... ?bId=r6680 You'll need a VPN connected to Sydney Australia to view this sadly. Bullying and discrimination, alongside of other forms of defemation won't be tolerated either, and I opted out of Arbitration ages ago. However, with this being in the past, moving on. I don't want to go any further. |
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Renji Asuka | #39 | Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:49 AM | Delete | [quote="TheRoyalAu":3rdihvmv][quote="Genexwrecker":3rdihvmv][quote="TheRoyalAu":3rdihvmv] Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.[/quote:3rdihvmv]pretty sure I saw you retaliate in a very inappropriate manner on the discord which is probably why ur banned.[/quote:3rdihvmv] At the end of the day, this exists: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Bu ... ?bId=r6680 You'll need a VPN connected to Sydney Australia to view this sadly. Bullying and discrimination, alongside of other forms of defemation won't be tolerated either, and I opted out of Arbitration ages ago. However, with this being in the past, moving on. I don't want to go any further.[/quote:3rdihvmv] Why are you bringing back this thread with a a random link, then proceed to say that you're moving on when your post does the exact opposite? |
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ihateyubel | #40 | Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:04 PM | Delete | [quote="parhelia_0000":2bojl2gs]I've been noticing this trend in a lot of the DB duels myself and others have been playing in, whether it be advanced or customs. I play a meta deck or any custom deck I created, and my opponent starts insulting me by using racist/sexist slurs or even mentions self-harm/suicide in the chat. Yes, Report Abuse feature is an option; however, we shouldn't have to constantly resort to that every single time we deal with a toxic opponent. It's come to a point where players can no longer be trusted to show respect towards one another. Example replays where people who have zero concept of dignity/respect decide to insult their opponents with slurs and mentions of self-harm: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43198189https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=37528-43826971As such, I am requesting that select slurs/terminologies be used in an automated system to automatically freeze players after 3 warnings. The way it works is this - if a player uses certain terms in the duel chat, the automated system will kick in and prevent the chat from being posted, and will warn the player of the banned terms. After 3 warnings, the automated system will freeze the player. I understand that this will cause a lot of controversies, but I'm starting to get sick and tired of dealing with duelists who show no respect towards one another. I am hoping that with the introduction of the automated system, the admins will have one less thing to worry about and focus more of their attention towards dealing with rulings in rated games. Thank you.[/quote:2bojl2gs] im all for racist comment, but depending of your definition of self harm may be stupid and could get a lot of random bans, like imagine someone just yeets his monster in another and a players wants to point out thats a suicide move, that in your definition would be a insta ban, there are a lot of words that can be easily missinterpreted by an algorythm on what is considered self-harm encouragement and just the current state of the game. |
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