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Seriously,i m so tired of seeingu wannabe judge sl*ts sucking the d*ck of these judges everytime someone points out they arent doing their jobs, No judges online: "Um AcTuAlLy ItS yOuR fAuLt FoR PlAyInG rAtEd" Judge gets called out for saying some homophobic shit: "Um AcTuAlLy ThErEs NoThInG wRoNg WiTh SaYiNg GaYs ArE MeNtAlLy DisAbLeD" Judge TERMINATING accounts without warning or explination: "Um AcTuAlLy ThEy ArE WiThIn ThiEr RiGhTs To TeRmInAtE AcCoUnTs WhEnEvEr ThEy WaNt FoR nO ReAsOn" Judges shadowbanning people without reason: "Um AcTuAlLy ThIs PoSt YoU mAdE 4 MoNtHs AgO wAs KiNd Of ShOrT, ThAtS wHy YoU wErE bAnNeD"

Seriously, STFU, No one asked you, If you arent a judge, we dont need your input, the judges can speak for themselves, if you have such a lack of confidence in your judges that you feel that you have to defend them, then you should leave the site, seriously, all youre doing is making the site and community WORSE when you blindly protect them from their actions. Genexwrecker isnt going to remember your name just because you jumped into an argument and defended them with some dumb shit.

Judge apologists, STFU.

I remember people who calmly provide good points in an argument. The people posting arent sucking up to me and their posts dont change how I think of them. I just remember good points made so i can apply it to improvement of the site. Thanks for your concern.

I only recall defending the decisions of judges, to that first point doesn't apply to me. I did not defend Genex from her accusations, which I'm sure is what you're referring to. I've defended freezes, but not terminations, regardless, as de facto moderators of DB, they have the authority to do "whatever," and we have to trust them to make the right decisions and moderate themselves, with appeals available for people to question those decisions if they feel they are wrong. Finally, I am defending that there was an actual reason as to why people get muted. Overall, I'm not an apologist, just haven't found enough of a reason to doubt.

Nice rant.

If you didn't care to hear other people's opinion DO NOT MAKE A THREAD. Otherwise YOU'LL HEAR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINION!

Shocker right?

Also you are under a dictatorship when you agree to use this site and many other services. To act as if you have any rights that can make you above the rules is laughable.

Admins can ban you for any reason. Fortunately there is internal systems in place to prevent actual abuse from judges. They also punish admins who do abuse their power.

If you were punished, it isn't (usually) because you're innocent. It's because that is what YOUR actions brought down upon you. Regular forum users do their best to point this out for the sake of the person making a thread. So they can LEARN and DO BETTER. Often times however, they try to lie about their situation to try and play victim. Some hop in other threads and bring up their case (which either deserved their own thread or they should just appeal) and it turned out they did nothing wrong and action was taken incorrectly (which is very rare).

As for the "homophobic" shit you're throwing out there. Genexwrecker stating a fact isn't homophobic. So get over it. If they said "gay people should die" then I wouldn't be okay with that.

TL;DR If you don't want any user to respond JUST STICK TO SUBMITTING REPORTS AND STOP FEELING YOU'RE ABOVE THE GOD DAMN RULES.

Thank you dearly for saying this. My post about shadowbanning was hijacked with people (or specifically, one person) that went so out of their way to speak for the judges and suck their d*ick. It was honestly pathetic to the point where I never dignified them with a response. Not even once.

Seems like they have a feral following of simps.

[quote="GayNProud":28p3ph5j]Thank you dearly for saying this. My post about shadowbanning was hijacked with people (or specifically, one person) that went so out of their way to speak for the judges and suck their d*ick. It was honestly pathetic to the point where I never dignified them with a response. Not even once.[/quote:28p3ph5j]
My bets are on Christen.

[quote="Lil Oldman":32qcutd1][quote="GayNProud":32qcutd1]Thank you dearly for saying this. My post about shadowbanning was hijacked with people (or specifically, one person) that went so out of their way to speak for the judges and suck their d*ick. It was honestly pathetic to the point where I never dignified them with a response. Not even once.[/quote:32qcutd1]
My bets are on Christen.[/quote:32qcutd1]

Bets on me for what?

[quote="Christen57":2tuy7zcn][quote="Lil Oldman":2tuy7zcn][quote="GayNProud":2tuy7zcn]Thank you dearly for saying this. My post about shadowbanning was hijacked with people (or specifically, one person) that went so out of their way to speak for the judges and suck their d*ick. It was honestly pathetic to the point where I never dignified them with a response. Not even once.[/quote:2tuy7zcn]
My bets are on Christen.[/quote:2tuy7zcn]

Bets on me for what?[/quote:2tuy7zcn]
read what they are quoting, sherlock.

[quote="Christen57":3gj1vyxd][quote="Lil Oldman":3gj1vyxd][quote="GayNProud":3gj1vyxd]Thank you dearly for saying this. My post about shadowbanning was hijacked with people (or specifically, one person) that went so out of their way to speak for the judges and suck their d*ick. It was honestly pathetic to the point where I never dignified them with a response. Not even once.[/quote:3gj1vyxd]
My bets are on Christen.[/quote:3gj1vyxd]

Bets on me for what?[/quote:3gj1vyxd]
To being the one GayNProud doesn't respond. You are really passionate regarding debates on this forum.

[quote="Lil Oldman":rz8ab7hw][quote="Christen57":rz8ab7hw][quote="Lil Oldman":rz8ab7hw]
My bets are on Christen.[/quote:rz8ab7hw]

Bets on me for what?[/quote:rz8ab7hw]
To being the one GayNProud doesn't respond. You are really passionate regarding debates on this forum.[/quote:rz8ab7hw]

Maybe he doesn't respond 'cause he knows he's been rightfully shadowbanned and has no more valid rebuttal to my or Genexwrecker's explanation.

Also, thanks. I am passionate about debating. As an introvert, I strongly prefer these kinds of intellectual discussions, as opposed to small talk like "hi how ya doing? how was your day? beautiful weather we're having, huh?". [url:rz8ab7hw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mrqR-ZsFm4[/url:rz8ab7hw]

[quote="Christen57":17ca1cyy][quote="Lil Oldman":17ca1cyy][quote="Christen57":17ca1cyy]

Bets on me for what?[/quote:17ca1cyy]
To being the one GayNProud doesn't respond. You are really passionate regarding debates on this forum.[/quote:17ca1cyy]

Maybe he doesn't respond 'cause he knows he's been rightfully shadowbanned and has no more valid rebuttal to my or Genexwrecker's explanation.

Also, thanks. I am passionate about debating. As an introvert, I strongly prefer these kinds of intellectual discussions, as opposed to small talk like "hi how ya doing? how was your day? beautiful weather we're having, huh?". [url:17ca1cyy]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mrqR-ZsFm4[/url:17ca1cyy][/quote:17ca1cyy]
I don't think that's the case. They haven't stated anything way before there was a real conclusion, not that I think there is.
Also, I don't think petty debates like these ones could be really considered "intellectual discussions", but to each their own I guess, I feel like I've actually lost a brian cell or too.

[quote="Lil Oldman":2xll2uyv][quote="Christen57":2xll2uyv][quote="Lil Oldman":2xll2uyv]
To being the one GayNProud doesn't respond. You are really passionate regarding debates on this forum.[/quote:2xll2uyv]

Maybe he doesn't respond 'cause he knows he's been rightfully shadowbanned and has no more valid rebuttal to my or Genexwrecker's explanation.

Also, thanks. I am passionate about debating. As an introvert, I strongly prefer these kinds of intellectual discussions, as opposed to small talk like "hi how ya doing? how was your day? beautiful weather we're having, huh?". [url:2xll2uyv]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mrqR-ZsFm4[/url:2xll2uyv][/quote:2xll2uyv]
I don't think that's the case. They haven't stated anything way before there was a real conclusion, not that I think there is.
Also, I don't think petty debates like these ones could be really considered "intellectual discussions", but to each their own I guess, I feel like I've actually lost a brian cell or too.[/quote:2xll2uyv]

Maybe I should've called them discussions that make people practice their critical thinking skills as they try to refute each other's arguments as if they were lawyers or something. That sounds more accurate.

the ace attorney parodies are just gold for these things XD

i love debates and seeing them turned into ace attorney, true battles of the mind in a fun easy to read form that doesn't get dull for awhile and participating in them is awesome too cause I always win

I've just accepted that all I do in the Objections is do a funny haha every once in a while.

Ngl there are so good points in this rant. Like they're talking about people who make these meme replies to serious discussions and how they are making the problem seem not important. Having no judges doesn't give you the right to cheat or to be rude, calling lgbtq people "mentally disabled" isn't okay and is just homophobic, and judges should know better. Shadowbanning is a pretty big problem and it doesn't give the person being banned to be able to defend/explain themselves because they don't know they're banned. Alot of reports could be edited in someone's favor or a judge could have personal reasons to shadowban someone and other judges won't know.

Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.

[quote="Plum Blossom":1zdxpuq1]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:1zdxpuq1]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":2ge6nk3n][quote="Plum Blossom":2ge6nk3n]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:2ge6nk3n]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:2ge6nk3n]

Gardevoirs are a crime to humanity.

[quote="Plum Blossom":1u6nkvaq]Defending judges is sad dude.[/quote:1u6nkvaq]

Only when their actions aren't justified. In this case, they are. Both GayNPround and Apocralyph deserved their penalites.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1ijq9bvs][quote="Plum Blossom":1ijq9bvs]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:1ijq9bvs]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:1ijq9bvs]
See how the correct medical terminology is used in those posts you linked to make me look bad.

As for your other reply. Judges who do abuse their power are removed from the judge team and reports against them are handled by the higher judges. As for your concern about being banned for no reason, everyone on the judge team has to have good reason to issue penalties. The only one that can ban for anything is the owner.

SHOCKING NEWS: MOST DB USERS DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY, RACE, OR POLITICS.

The only politics people care about is edison format being implemented lol

[quote="Genexwrecker":3pcr4n88][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3pcr4n88][quote="Plum Blossom":3pcr4n88]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:3pcr4n88]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:3pcr4n88]
See how the correct medical terminology is used in those posts you linked to make me look bad.[/quote:3pcr4n88]

"Non-Binary people don't exist"

"In fact, the LGBTQ community has too many rights and an unfair advantage in the country right now"

"We won't penalize users for referring to somebody as him or her" which means you just admit you don't care if someone is purposely calling someone he/her if they told someone they are they/them and they are calling them he/her out of spite

I love learning this new medical terminology.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":f1x0scgn][quote="Genexwrecker":f1x0scgn][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":f1x0scgn]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:f1x0scgn]
See how the correct medical terminology is used in those posts you linked to make me look bad.[/quote:f1x0scgn]

"Non-Binary people don't exist" [/quote:f1x0scgn]

Because they don't.

"We won't penalize users for referring to somebody as him or her"  which means you just admit you don't care if someone is purposely calling someone he/her if they told someone they are they/them and they are calling them he/her out of spite

Because they aren't they/them. They are he/her.

Man, I can feel the lack of empathy in the air.

Back to the original topic. Yes some people dont need to constantly post paragraphs in response to something directed at a judge. They are however still free to comment. If you dont like their posts you dont have to read them.

[quote="Christen57":1z51jedf][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1z51jedf][quote="Genexwrecker":1z51jedf]
See how the correct medical terminology is used in those posts you linked to make me look bad.[/quote:1z51jedf]

"Non-Binary people don't exist" [/quote:1z51jedf]

Because they don't.

"We won't penalize users for referring to somebody as him or her"  which means you just admit you don't care if someone is purposely calling someone he/her if they told someone they are they/them and they are calling them he/her out of spite

Because they aren't they/them. They are he/her.[/quote:1z51jedf]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMRlqaY ... nel=Seeker
non-binarys exist, according to biology. Not that you guys actually use science for your bigotry.

[quote="Excellion":2szzyte0][quote="Christen57":2szzyte0][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":2szzyte0]

"Non-Binary people don't exist" [/quote:2szzyte0]

Because they don't.

"We won't penalize users for referring to somebody as him or her"  which means you just admit you don't care if someone is purposely calling someone he/her if they told someone they are they/them and they are calling them he/her out of spite

Because they aren't they/them. They are he/her.[/quote:2szzyte0]
[url:2szzyte0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMRlqaY6eVU[/url:2szzyte0]
non-binarys exist, according to biology. Not that you guys actually use science for your bigotry.[/quote:2szzyte0]

This video says nothing about chromosome combinations, even though it's been made clear multiple times already on this forum that chromosome combinations determine gender, but this video wants you to believe your gender is based more on how you "look" and "feel" and whatnot. No wonder it has twice as many dislikes as likes.

[quote="Genexwrecker":17r26k5n]Back to the original topic. Yes some people dont need to constantly post paragraphs in response to something directed at a judge. They are however still free to comment. If you dont like their posts you dont have to read them.[/quote:17r26k5n]

You are literally the worst judge. I swear your reasoning is why people don't wanna report horrible people. "If you don't like their posts you don't have to read them" they shouldn't be making those type of posts in the first place. How are you a judge but you are part of the problem on why DB is such a toxic environment? How did you even become a judge in the first place when its clear you don't care about how users are treating other people and how YOU treat users on here?

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":8xqywq0d][quote="Genexwrecker":8xqywq0d][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":8xqywq0d]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:8xqywq0d]
See how the correct medical terminology is used in those posts you linked to make me look bad.[/quote:8xqywq0d]

"Non-Binary people don't exist"

"In fact, the LGBTQ community has too many rights and an unfair advantage in the country right now"

"We won't penalize users for referring to somebody as him or her" which means you just admit you don't care if someone is purposely calling someone he/her if they told someone they are they/them and they are calling them he/her out of spite

I love learning this new medical terminology.[/quote:8xqywq0d]
Genex only said the posts [in the picture] have correct medical terminology. Second, Non-Binary people don't exist in the same way that a self-described sexual orientation doesn't exist. Until I see convincing evidence of an axis besides men to woman in gender identity, then anyone describing themselves as something off that axis isn't being scientific. I don't know enough law and trends to see whether or not LGBT+ people ARE getting "unfair advantages" though Disney sure seems to like marketing it. Finally, guess what, if people don't respect you, they won't be polite to you, and that includes using your preferred pronoun, deal with it.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":is0rlnty][quote="Genexwrecker":is0rlnty]Back to the original topic. Yes some people dont need to constantly post paragraphs in response to something directed at a judge. They are however still free to comment. If you dont like their posts you dont have to read them.[/quote:is0rlnty]

You are literally the worst judge. I swear your reasoning is why people don't wanna report horrible people. "If you don't like their posts you don't have to read them" they shouldn't be making those type of posts in the first place.[/quote:is0rlnty]

What types of posts?

 How are you a judge but you are part of the problem on why DB is such a toxic environment? How did you even become a judge in the first place when its clear you don't care about how users are treating other people and how YOU treat users on here?

How did she treat anyone in a toxic manner here?

[quote="Christen57":2ai8oe36][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":2ai8oe36][quote="Genexwrecker":2ai8oe36]Back to the original topic. Yes some people dont need to constantly post paragraphs in response to something directed at a judge. They are however still free to comment. If you dont like their posts you dont have to read them.[/quote:2ai8oe36]

You are literally the worst judge. I swear your reasoning is why people don't wanna report horrible people. "If you don't like their posts you don't have to read them" they shouldn't be making those type of posts in the first place.[/quote:2ai8oe36]

What types of posts?

 How are you a judge but you are part of the problem on why DB is such a toxic environment? How did you even become a judge in the first place when its clear you don't care about how users are treating other people and how YOU treat users on here?

How did she treat anyone in a toxic manner here?[/quote:2ai8oe36]

1. Posts that are clearly discriminatory or targeted at someone, creepy fetish posts, and dick copypasta posts

2. She is literally being discriminatory against the lgbtq community (given the posts before) and has not apologized or tried to.

3. (Continuation to 2) You knew this but you are just as bad as Genex, you made replies defending her in this given post and saying you agree with her. Aswell you say its excused because " All DB players on toxic" however this isn't an excuse, especially for a judge. Aswell If you actually spent time on DB and not just spend your time on forums the community can be pretty healthy and loving. I met a ton of kind people on here and who I talk to off DB. Its not ALL DB players are toxic but its people like you and genex.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3enu7dkm][quote="Christen57":3enu7dkm][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3enu7dkm]

You are literally the worst judge. I swear your reasoning is why people don't wanna report horrible people. "If you don't like their posts you don't have to read them" they shouldn't be making those type of posts in the first place.[/quote:3enu7dkm]

What types of posts?

 How are you a judge but you are part of the problem on why DB is such a toxic environment? How did you even become a judge in the first place when its clear you don't care about how users are treating other people and how YOU treat users on here?

How did she treat anyone in a toxic manner here?[/quote:3enu7dkm]

1. Posts that are clearly discriminatory or targeted at someone, creepy fetish posts, and dick copypasta posts

2. She is literally being discriminatory against the lgbtq community (given the posts before) and has not apologized or tried to.

3. (Continuation to 2) You knew this but you are just as bad as Genex, you made replies defending her in this given post and saying you agree with her. Aswell you say its excused because " All DB players on toxic" however this isn't an excuse, especially for a jduge.[/quote:3enu7dkm]

Link us to where we made these comments.

[quote="Christen57":1c7jpp4x][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1c7jpp4x][quote="Christen57":1c7jpp4x]

What types of posts?



How did she treat anyone in a toxic manner here?[/quote:1c7jpp4x]

1. Posts that are clearly discriminatory or targeted at someone, creepy fetish posts, and dick copypasta posts

2. She is literally being discriminatory against the lgbtq community (given the posts before) and has not apologized or tried to.

3. (Continuation to 2) You knew this but you are just as bad as Genex, you made replies defending her in this given post and saying you agree with her. Aswell you say its excused because " All DB players on toxic" however this isn't an excuse, especially for a jduge.[/quote:1c7jpp4x]

Link us to where we made these comments.[/quote:1c7jpp4x]

I literally said its in this post. Omg. Yo ur like the least funniest troll I ever met, at least trolls make me laugh (even once). You're just not funny at all.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3ch9txpx][quote="Christen57":3ch9txpx][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3ch9txpx]

1. Posts that are clearly discriminatory or targeted at someone, creepy fetish posts, and dick copypasta posts

2. She is literally being discriminatory against the lgbtq community (given the posts before) and has not apologized or tried to.

3. (Continuation to 2) You knew this but you are just as bad as Genex, you made replies defending her in this given post and saying you agree with her. Aswell you say its excused because " All DB players on toxic" however this isn't an excuse, especially for a jduge.[/quote:3ch9txpx]

Link us to where we made these comments.[/quote:3ch9txpx]

I literally said its in this post.[/quote:3ch9txpx]

You provided no links to where the comments in question were made.

[quote="Christen57":29ddr8pz][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":29ddr8pz][quote="Christen57":29ddr8pz]

Link us to where we made these comments.[/quote:29ddr8pz]

I literally said its in this post.[/quote:29ddr8pz]

You provided no links to where the comments in question were made.[/quote:29ddr8pz]

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22291&start=20

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":watfaiki][quote="Christen57":watfaiki][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":watfaiki]

I literally said its in this post.[/quote:watfaiki]

You provided no links to where the comments in question were made.[/quote:watfaiki]

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22291&start=20[/quote:watfaiki]

If you're talking about these screenshots you shared: [url:watfaiki]https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/url:watfaiki]

then nothing she stated in any of them was "discriminatory" or "creepy," as she was just pointing out that there's currently no "third gender" or whatever like you want to believe.

[quote="Christen57":35zos7ec][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":35zos7ec][quote="Christen57":35zos7ec]

You provided no links to where the comments in question were made.[/quote:35zos7ec]

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22291&start=20[/quote:35zos7ec]

If you're talking about these screenshots you shared: [url:35zos7ec]https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/url:35zos7ec]

then nothing she stated in any of them was "discriminatory" or "creepy," as she was just pointing out that there's currently no "third gender" or whatever like you want to believe.[/quote:35zos7ec]

Ykw this will be the last time I respond to you in this post (hopefully ever) but if you can't see why these posts are offensive or creepy how much they hate the lgbtq community and the stuff they say about them, then there really is no chance on me educating you. So I'm gonna say this, you really need to do some searching on the internet on your own and learn more about the lgbtq community, cuz clearly the only knowledge you have on them is from trolls on the internet.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3jwl9q0i][quote="Christen57":3jwl9q0i][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3jwl9q0i]

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22291&start=20[/quote:3jwl9q0i]

If you're talking about these screenshots you shared: [url:3jwl9q0i]https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/url:3jwl9q0i]

then nothing she stated in any of them was "discriminatory" or "creepy," as she was just pointing out that there's currently no "third gender" or whatever like you want to believe.[/quote:3jwl9q0i]

Ykw this will be the last time I respond to you in this post (hopefully ever) but if you can't see why these posts are offensive or creepy how much they hate the lgbtq community and the stuff they say about them, then there really is no chance on me educating you.[/quote:3jwl9q0i]

She expressed no "hatred" for that community. She just rejected the idea that there was currently any real third gender. Not believing in something doesn't mean you hate that thing.

She also criticized that community for having unfair advantages and whatnot. Criticizing a community isn't "hating" on it.

Don't know where you keep getting this "they hate the lgbtq community" stuff from.

[quote="Christen57":3dqszydx][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3dqszydx][quote="Christen57":3dqszydx]

You provided no links to where the comments in question were made.[/quote:3dqszydx]

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22291&start=20[/quote:3dqszydx]

If you're talking about these screenshots you shared: [url:3dqszydx]https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/url:3dqszydx]

then nothing she stated in any of them was "discriminatory" or "creepy," as she was just pointing out that there's currently no "third gender" or whatever like you want to believe.[/quote:3dqszydx]
My post there still holds true lmho

Do I need to tell you why who you actually are doesn't matter on this anonymized platform for playing Yu-Gi-Oh! the Trading Card Game. This just isn't the type of place where such things as whether or not you're straight or gay actually have relevance, unlike real life.

Idk why we even have a gender option to begin with

I thought the thread was supposed to focus on people not needing to type paragraphs and such when a judge is mentioned. Lets not continue the derailing please.

[quote="Lil Oldman":1a0ad9dl]Idk why we even have a gender option to begin with[/quote:1a0ad9dl]

So people can specify if they're male or female.

[quote="Genexwrecker":a9o7imvf]I thought the thread was supposed to focus on people not needing to type paragraphs and such when a judge is mentioned. Lets not continue the derailing please.[/quote:a9o7imvf]

But its not though, its about talking about people who mindlessly defend judges who do bad things (not having judges online isn't a bad thing but shadowbanning and homophobia are so 2/3). What I'm talking about isn't derailing the conversation. I'm literally joining in, in not mindlessly defending judges like you. Just cause you are a horrible person and you are getting called out doesn't mean its derailing the conversation. Its adding on to the conversation on why judges shouldn't be defended just cause they're judges. Just because I'm mentioning you doesn't mean that what I'm saying is off-topic. You're just salty.

[quote="Genexwrecker":f5n7ry0k]I thought the thread was supposed to focus on people not needing to type paragraphs and such when a judge is mentioned. Lets not continue the derailing please.[/quote:f5n7ry0k]
if anything, this proves the original point, Someone called out a judge, kid runs to your rescue

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":36nuum36][quote="Genexwrecker":36nuum36]I thought the thread was supposed to focus on people not needing to type paragraphs and such when a judge is mentioned. Lets not continue the derailing please.[/quote:36nuum36]

But its not though, its about talking about people who mindlessly defend judges who do bad things (not having judges online isn't a bad thing but shadowbanning and homophobia are so 2/3). What I'm talking about isn't derailing the conversation. I'm literally joining in, in not mindlessly defending judges like you. Just cause you are a horrible person and you are getting called out doesn't mean its derailing the conversation. Its adding on to the conversation on why judges shouldn't be defended just cause they're judges. Just because I'm mentioning you doesn't mean that what I'm saying is off-topic. You're just salty.[/quote:36nuum36]

I'm not defending anyone just 'cause they're a judge. I'm defending the staff's decision to shadowban you because you deserved it after what you've done.

You're the only one being "salty" here, as you still haven't figure out by now that your shadowban was indeed due to either your main menu posts, or the main menu posts of someone else who was on the same VPN as you. Whichever one it is, you're at fault. That's what Genexwrecker made clear to you. She isn't going to specify which of the 2 it was for, but she has confirmed that it was for one of them, and either of them was a shadowbannable offense.

[quote="Christen57":2x93xzkm][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":2x93xzkm][quote="Genexwrecker":2x93xzkm]I thought the thread was supposed to focus on people not needing to type paragraphs and such when a judge is mentioned. Lets not continue the derailing please.[/quote:2x93xzkm]

But its not though, its about talking about people who mindlessly defend judges who do bad things (not having judges online isn't a bad thing but shadowbanning and homophobia are so 2/3). What I'm talking about isn't derailing the conversation. I'm literally joining in, in not mindlessly defending judges like you. Just cause you are a horrible person and you are getting called out doesn't mean its derailing the conversation. Its adding on to the conversation on why judges shouldn't be defended just cause they're judges. Just because I'm mentioning you doesn't mean that what I'm saying is off-topic. You're just salty.[/quote:2x93xzkm]

I'm not defending anyone just 'cause they're a judge. I'm defending the staff's decision to shadowban you because you deserved it after what you've done.

You're the only one being "salty" here. You still can't seem to figure out by now that your shadowban was indeed due to either your main menu posts, or the main menu posts of someone else who was on the same VPN as you. Whichever one it is, you're at fault. That's what Genexwrecker made clear to you.[/quote:2x93xzkm]
wrong person, sherlock. Also "Im not mad, youre mad, look at how mad you are, im not projecting you are"

[quote="Christen57":1muik3mg][quote="Lil Oldman":1muik3mg]Idk why we even have a gender option to begin with[/quote:1muik3mg]

So people can specify if they're male or female.[/quote:1muik3mg]
Does it matter if you can specify if you are male or female if you can't prove it? It serves no purpose and it isn't a good tool for some people to represent themselves.

[quote="Christen57":rqjvmrsb][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":rqjvmrsb][quote="Genexwrecker":rqjvmrsb]I thought the thread was supposed to focus on people not needing to type paragraphs and such when a judge is mentioned. Lets not continue the derailing please.[/quote:rqjvmrsb]

But its not though, its about talking about people who mindlessly defend judges who do bad things (not having judges online isn't a bad thing but shadowbanning and homophobia are so 2/3). What I'm talking about isn't derailing the conversation. I'm literally joining in, in not mindlessly defending judges like you. Just cause you are a horrible person and you are getting called out doesn't mean its derailing the conversation. Its adding on to the conversation on why judges shouldn't be defended just cause they're judges. Just because I'm mentioning you doesn't mean that what I'm saying is off-topic. You're just salty.[/quote:rqjvmrsb]

I'm not defending anyone just 'cause they're a judge. I'm defending the staff's decision to shadowban you because you deserved it after what you've done.

You're the only one being "salty" here, as you still haven't figure out by now that your shadowban was indeed due to either your main menu posts, or the main menu posts of someone else who was on the same VPN as you. Whichever one it is, you're at fault. That's what Genexwrecker made clear to you. She isn't going to specify which of the 2 it was for, but she has confirmed that it was for one of them, and either of them was a shadowbannable offense.[/quote:rqjvmrsb]

I know I said I would respond to you anymore but tbh you really do need to see some logic in your life. 1. I never said I was shadow banned, OP was talking about it. 2 OP was talking about people mindlessly defending judges, I never said in my reply nor did OP in their post that they were talking about you. It was you that was assuming that people were talking about you mindlessly defending judges (P.S if you're worried about that, you should prob look back at your actions and reconsider your next actions). 3. I don't care if I'm shadow banned because I have a pretty good amount of people friending me because unlike you, I'm likeable.

[quote="apocralyph":1f06iyke][quote="Christen57":1f06iyke][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1f06iyke]

But its not though, its about talking about people who mindlessly defend judges who do bad things (not having judges online isn't a bad thing but shadowbanning and homophobia are so 2/3). What I'm talking about isn't derailing the conversation. I'm literally joining in, in not mindlessly defending judges like you. Just cause you are a horrible person and you are getting called out doesn't mean its derailing the conversation. Its adding on to the conversation on why judges shouldn't be defended just cause they're judges. Just because I'm mentioning you doesn't mean that what I'm saying is off-topic. You're just salty.[/quote:1f06iyke]

I'm not defending anyone just 'cause they're a judge. I'm defending the staff's decision to shadowban you because you deserved it after what you've done.

You're the only one being "salty" here. You still can't seem to figure out by now that your shadowban was indeed due to either your main menu posts, or the main menu posts of someone else who was on the same VPN as you. Whichever one it is, you're at fault. That's what Genexwrecker made clear to you.[/quote:1f06iyke]
wrong person, sherlock. Also "Im not mad, youre mad, look at how mad you are, im not projecting you are"[/quote:1f06iyke]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.

[quote="Lil Oldman":1f06iyke][quote="Christen57":1f06iyke][quote="Lil Oldman":1f06iyke]Idk why we even have a gender option to begin with[/quote:1f06iyke]

So people can specify if they're male or female.[/quote:1f06iyke]
Does it matter if you can specify if you are male or female if you can't prove it?[/quote:1f06iyke]

What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.

[quote="Christen57":2s8icei2][quote="apocralyph":2s8icei2][quote="Christen57":2s8icei2]

I'm not defending anyone just 'cause they're a judge. I'm defending the staff's decision to shadowban you because you deserved it after what you've done.

You're the only one being "salty" here. You still can't seem to figure out by now that your shadowban was indeed due to either your main menu posts, or the main menu posts of someone else who was on the same VPN as you. Whichever one it is, you're at fault. That's what Genexwrecker made clear to you.[/quote:2s8icei2]
wrong person, sherlock. Also "Im not mad, youre mad, look at how mad you are, im not projecting you are"[/quote:2s8icei2]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.

[quote="Lil Oldman":2s8icei2][quote="Christen57":2s8icei2]

So people can specify if they're male or female.[/quote:2s8icei2]
Does it matter if you can specify if you are male or female if you can't prove it?[/quote:2s8icei2]

What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:2s8icei2]
No, I wasnt

[quote="apocralyph":2uw9ruzz][quote="Christen57":2uw9ruzz][quote="apocralyph":2uw9ruzz]
wrong person, sherlock. Also "Im not mad, youre mad, look at how mad you are, im not projecting you are"[/quote:2uw9ruzz]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.

[quote="Lil Oldman":2uw9ruzz]
Does it matter if you can specify if you are male or female if you can't prove it?[/quote:2uw9ruzz]

What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:2uw9ruzz]
No, I wasnt [/quote:2uw9ruzz]

You spammed "Day X of mystic mine not being banned" on the main menu, posted random pointless status updates like "Mokey Mokey," and made spam posts asking people to reply for a dono instead of just putting the donos in the original posts themselves.

[quote="Christen57":2ancpd3q][quote="apocralyph":2ancpd3q][quote="Christen57":2ancpd3q]

I'm not defending anyone just 'cause they're a judge. I'm defending the staff's decision to shadowban you because you deserved it after what you've done.

You're the only one being "salty" here. You still can't seem to figure out by now that your shadowban was indeed due to either your main menu posts, or the main menu posts of someone else who was on the same VPN as you. Whichever one it is, you're at fault. That's what Genexwrecker made clear to you.[/quote:2ancpd3q]
wrong person, sherlock. Also "Im not mad, youre mad, look at how mad you are, im not projecting you are"[/quote:2ancpd3q]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.

[quote="Lil Oldman":2ancpd3q][quote="Christen57":2ancpd3q]

So people can specify if they're male or female.[/quote:2ancpd3q]
Does it matter if you can specify if you are male or female if you can't prove it?[/quote:2ancpd3q]

What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:2ancpd3q]
Again, why do we have that feature if it is so insignificant. It barely matters if you are a man or a woman, so it is obvious it is for personalization purposes, so why limit it to a considerably narrow scope.

[quote="Christen57":2xlxknm6][quote="apocralyph":2xlxknm6][quote="Christen57":2xlxknm6]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.



What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:2xlxknm6]
No, I wasnt [/quote:2xlxknm6]

You spammed "Day X of mystic mine not being banned" on the main menu, posted random pointless status updates like "Mokey Mokey," and made spam posts asking people to reply for a dono instead of just putting the donos in the original posts themselves.[/quote:2xlxknm6]
Not why i was banned Genexwrecker confirmed it wasnt, and they didnt know, So youre wrong

[quote="Lil Oldman":34g9emzt][quote="Christen57":34g9emzt][quote="apocralyph":34g9emzt]
wrong person, sherlock. Also "Im not mad, youre mad, look at how mad you are, im not projecting you are"[/quote:34g9emzt]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.

[quote="Lil Oldman":34g9emzt]
Does it matter if you can specify if you are male or female if you can't prove it?[/quote:34g9emzt]

What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:34g9emzt]
Again, why do we have that feature if it is so insignificant. It barely matters if you are a man or a woman, so it is obvious it is for personalization purposes, so why limit it to a considerably narrow scope.[/quote:34g9emzt]

"Narrow scope" meaning?

[quote="apocralyph":34g9emzt][quote="Christen57":34g9emzt][quote="apocralyph":34g9emzt]
No, I wasnt [/quote:34g9emzt]

You spammed "Day X of mystic mine not being banned" on the main menu, posted random pointless status updates like "Mokey Mokey," and made spam posts asking people to reply for a dono instead of just putting the donos in the original posts themselves.[/quote:34g9emzt]
Not why i was banned Genexwrecker confirmed it wasnt,[/quote:34g9emzt]

Where did she give such confirmation?

and they didnt know, So youre wrong 

Well whether she previously did or didn't know, she knows now. The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to those 2 possibilities: You, or the other user who was on your VPN, posting rule-breaking stuff on the main menu.

[quote="Christen57":24wkc92l][quote="Lil Oldman":24wkc92l][quote="Christen57":24wkc92l]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.



What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:24wkc92l]
Again, why do we have that feature if it is so insignificant. It barely matters if you are a man or a woman, so it is obvious it is for personalization purposes, so why limit it to a considerably narrow scope.[/quote:24wkc92l]

"Narrow scope" meaning?

[quote="apocralyph":24wkc92l][quote="Christen57":24wkc92l]

You spammed "Day X of mystic mine not being banned" on the main menu, posted random pointless status updates like "Mokey Mokey," and made spam posts asking people to reply for a dono instead of just putting the donos in the original posts themselves.[/quote:24wkc92l]
Not why i was banned Genexwrecker confirmed it wasnt,[/quote:24wkc92l]

Where did she give such confirmation?

and they didnt know, So youre wrong 

Well whether she previously did or didn't know, she knows now. The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to those 2 possibilities: You, or the other user who was on your VPN, posting rule-breaking stuff on the main menu.[/quote:24wkc92l]
No, they dont and you cant prove otherwise.

[quote="apocralyph":3przcytv][quote="Christen57":3przcytv][quote="Lil Oldman":3przcytv]
Again, why do we have that feature if it is so insignificant. It barely matters if you are a man or a woman, so it is obvious it is for personalization purposes, so why limit it to a considerably narrow scope.[/quote:3przcytv]

"Narrow scope" meaning?

[quote="apocralyph":3przcytv]
Not why i was banned Genexwrecker confirmed it wasnt,[/quote:3przcytv]

Where did she give such confirmation?

and they didnt know, So youre wrong 

Well whether she previously did or didn't know, she knows now. The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to those 2 possibilities: You, or the other user who was on your VPN, posting rule-breaking stuff on the main menu.[/quote:3przcytv]
No, they dont and you cant prove otherwise.[/quote:3przcytv]

She said it. That's the proof.

[quote="Christen57":3e0rap01][quote="apocralyph":3e0rap01][quote="Christen57":3e0rap01]

"Narrow scope" meaning?



Where did she give such confirmation?



Well whether she previously did or didn't know, she knows now. The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to those 2 possibilities: You, or the other user who was on your VPN, posting rule-breaking stuff on the main menu.[/quote:3e0rap01]
No, they dont and you cant prove otherwise.[/quote:3e0rap01]

She just said it. That's the proof.[/quote:3e0rap01]
So youre claiming youre a judge? still not proof, just speculation, you dont know how to prove an argument, sherlock

[quote="Christen57":3jitq07u][quote="Lil Oldman":3jitq07u][quote="Christen57":3jitq07u]

I apologize for quoting the wrong person, but my point regarding your actions still stands, Apocralyph: The reason for your shadowban was narrowed down to 2 possibilities, both of which are correct: You posted rule-breaking stuff on the main menu, and you used a VPN which gave someone else the opportunity to get himself along with you shadowbanned.



What do you need to prove that for? If you're male, you choose the Male option. If you're female, you choose the Female option. If you choose the incorrect option, the worst that ends up happening is you getting mistakenly addressed as one gender when you're the other gender.[/quote:3jitq07u]
Again, why do we have that feature if it is so insignificant. It barely matters if you are a man or a woman, so it is obvious it is for personalization purposes, so why limit it to a considerably narrow scope.[/quote:3jitq07u]

"Narrow scope" meaning?[/quote:3jitq07u]
This might be a shocker, but you aren't Yuma Tsukumo, and I am not a man with a briefcase head. Why can we represent ourselves with such liberty, but can't say that I am not into guys/girls by default?
It has a narrow scope in that way. The feature is purely aesthetic, so it makes no sense for it to be restricted in just 2 options that don't represent a part of the community.

[quote="apocralyph":23mzq944][quote="Christen57":23mzq944][quote="apocralyph":23mzq944]
No, they dont and you cant prove otherwise.[/quote:23mzq944]

She just said it. That's the proof.[/quote:23mzq944]
So youre claiming youre a judge?[/quote:23mzq944]

No, but she's a judge. I'm going off of what she said, off of what you posted and admitted to doing, and off of the sole purpose of shadowbans.

[quote="Genexwrecker":pyicvfjn]I remember people who calmly provide good points in an argument. The people posting arent sucking up to me and their posts dont change how I think of them. I just remember good points made so i can apply it to improvement of the site. Thanks for your concern.[/quote:pyicvfjn]
Please mommy i told all the bad dumb people who disagreed with you theyre wrong and bad and dumb on the internet please mommy please let me see those toes, lemme get a sniff im mommies good boy please

[quote="Chrisfen57":216567b5][quote="Genexwrecker":216567b5]I remember people who calmly provide good points in an argument. The people posting arent sucking up to me and their posts dont change how I think of them. I just remember good points made so i can apply it to improvement of the site. Thanks for your concern.[/quote:216567b5]
Please mommy i told all the bad dumb people who disagreed with you theyre wrong and bad and dumb on the internet please mommy please let me see those toes, lemme get a sniff im mommies good boy please[/quote:216567b5]

Fucking lmao XD

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone be impersonated on these forums, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

Anyways, it's probably time for Marshie to tell people to stop posting in circles

[quote="Lil Oldman":37btwmpn]I am not a man with a briefcase head.[/quote:37btwmpn]

You mean this whole time you've been lying about your gender? You're a woman with a briefcase head?

[quote="greg503":pr8xyw0x]If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone be impersonated on these forums, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.[/quote:pr8xyw0x]

DOOM!

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":9mbyhqyn][quote="Plum Blossom":9mbyhqyn]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:9mbyhqyn]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:9mbyhqyn]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3qzx4esf][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3qzx4esf][quote="Plum Blossom":3qzx4esf]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:3qzx4esf]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:3qzx4esf]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:3qzx4esf]
Saying that an opinion is a fact does not automatically make it fact. That's not how facts work.

[quote="troglyte":345k8vhn][quote="Renji Asuka":345k8vhn][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":345k8vhn]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:345k8vhn]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:345k8vhn]
Saying that an opinion is a fact does not automatically make it fact. That's not how facts work.[/quote:345k8vhn]

What "opinion" did he claim was a fact?

[quote="troglyte":2vvpgnll][quote="Renji Asuka":2vvpgnll][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":2vvpgnll]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:2vvpgnll]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:2vvpgnll]
Saying that an opinion is a fact does not automatically make it fact. That's not how facts work.[/quote:2vvpgnll]
Genetics back up what Genexwrecker claims.

Science backs up what Genexwrecker claims.

Men cannot get pregnant.

Women can never become a man.

Men can never become a woman.

Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness.

Denying these things doesn't make it true.

[quote="Renji Asuka":17lbfhbt][quote="troglyte":17lbfhbt][quote="Renji Asuka":17lbfhbt]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:17lbfhbt]
Saying that an opinion is a fact does not automatically make it fact. That's not how facts work.[/quote:17lbfhbt]
Genetics back up what Genexwrecker claims.

Science backs up what Genexwrecker claims.

Women can never become a man.

Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness.

Denying these things doesn't make it true.[/quote:17lbfhbt]

Enough with the tribalistic chanting. Did you copypaste that?

Science did support that claim at one point. But then science changed. There's several fields of science studying gender, sex, and their relationship with each other.

Science may be 'set in stone' but guess what? Stone can be carved.

If these threads have taught me anything, it's that yugioh players are not qualified to be discussing gender politics of any kind. That includes you too, Genex.

[quote="troglyte":w3spnhlu][quote="Renji Asuka":w3spnhlu][quote="troglyte":w3spnhlu]
Saying that an opinion is a fact does not automatically make it fact. That's not how facts work.[/quote:w3spnhlu]
Genetics back up what Genexwrecker claims.

Science backs up what Genexwrecker claims.

Women can never become a man.

Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness.

Denying these things doesn't make it true.[/quote:w3spnhlu]

Enough with the tribalistic chanting. Did you copypaste that?

Science did support that claim at one point. But then science changed. There's several fields of science studying gender, sex, and their relationship with each other.

Science may be 'set in stone' but guess what? Stone can be carved.

If these threads have taught me anything, it's that yugioh players are not qualified to be discussing gender politics of any kind. That includes you too, Genex.[/quote:w3spnhlu]
History, science.

All this proves what I have stated is a fact.

Name 1 person from 1732 that was a man who gave birth.

Name 1 person in 1507 that was a man who gave birth.

Name 1 person in 1232 that was a woman that changed into a man.

Name 1 person in 1100 AD that was a woman that changed into a man.

Name 1 person in 1843 where a woman impregnated a man.

Odds are, you can't.

There are universal truths and this is one of them.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2x108n2a][quote="troglyte":2x108n2a][quote="Renji Asuka":2x108n2a]
Genetics back up what Genexwrecker claims.

Science backs up what Genexwrecker claims.

Women can never become a man.

Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness.

Denying these things doesn't make it true.[/quote:2x108n2a]

Enough with the tribalistic chanting. Did you copypaste that?

Science did support that claim at one point. But then science changed. There's several fields of science studying gender, sex, and their relationship with each other.

Science may be 'set in stone' but guess what? Stone can be carved.

If these threads have taught me anything, it's that yugioh players are not qualified to be discussing gender politics of any kind. That includes you too, Genex.[/quote:2x108n2a]
History, science.

All this proves what I have stated is a fact.

Name 1 person from 1732 that was a man who gave birth.

Name 1 person in 1507 that was a man who gave birth.

Name 1 person in 1232 that was a woman that changed into a man.

Name 1 person in 1100 AD that was a woman that changed into a man.

Name 1 person in 1843 where a woman impregnated a man.

Odds are, you can't.

There are universal truths and this is one of them.[/quote:2x108n2a]

First of all, those are just random dates which I'm guessing you pulled out of a number generator, so I'm just going to ignore that. Gee, it's almost like I'm not talking to a real person.

You missed the point of what I was saying. Back then society (and as a result, scientists as well) didn't understand gender expression and sexuality as well as today. Historians wouldn't understand nor know what to do with that information when it happened back then.

Also, STOP TALKING ABOUT PREGNANT MEN. You're literally the only one here talking about that, and it's creeping me out.

oh boy you would hate Seahorses XD

[quote="troglyte":5c37zxrq][quote="Renji Asuka":5c37zxrq][quote="troglyte":5c37zxrq]

Enough with the tribalistic chanting. Did you copypaste that?

Science did support that claim at one point. But then science changed. There's several fields of science studying gender, sex, and their relationship with each other.

Science may be 'set in stone' but guess what? Stone can be carved.

If these threads have taught me anything, it's that yugioh players are not qualified to be discussing gender politics of any kind. That includes you too, Genex.[/quote:5c37zxrq]
History, science.

All this proves what I have stated is a fact.

Name 1 person from 1732 that was a man who gave birth.

Name 1 person in 1507 that was a man who gave birth.

Name 1 person in 1232 that was a woman that changed into a man.

Name 1 person in 1100 AD that was a woman that changed into a man.

Name 1 person in 1843 where a woman impregnated a man.

Odds are, you can't.

There are universal truths and this is one of them.[/quote:5c37zxrq]

First of all, those are just random dates which I'm guessing you pulled out of a number generator, so I'm just going to ignore that. Gee, it's almost like I'm not talking to a real person.

You missed the point of what I was saying. Back then society (and as a result, scientists as well) didn't understand gender expression and sexuality as well as today. Historians wouldn't understand nor know what to do with that information when it happened back then.

Also, STOP TALKING ABOUT PREGNANT MEN. You're literally the only one here talking about that, and it's creeping me out.[/quote:5c37zxrq]

So your argument amounts to nothing more than "lalalala I can't hear you! Lalalalalalala"

You also tell me to stop talking about pregnant men. But aren't you arguing the idea that a woman can become a man and vice versa? And thus a man can be pregnant? Or are you backing out of that argument because you know how foolish it is?

@Genexwrecker, good thing I'm talking about humans. Otherwise we can talk about clownfish

[quote="Renji Asuka":3blpn274][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3blpn274][quote="Plum Blossom":3blpn274]Defending judges is sad dude.



All jokes aside I haven't seen other judges saying anything homophobic. Plus it's just impossible to have someone online all the time, we have work, school etc.[/quote:3blpn274]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:3blpn274]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:3blpn274]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.

[quote="Excellion":12xn7zzz][quote="Renji Asuka":12xn7zzz][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":12xn7zzz]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:12xn7zzz]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:12xn7zzz]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.[/quote:12xn7zzz]
I mean...when LGBTQ+ want to be able to control speech and what kind of speech on top of that, the fact that diversity hires are a thing.

That'd be "too many rights". Which is the context of what Genexwrecker stated.

[quote="Renji Asuka":4mwzfrwz][quote="troglyte":4mwzfrwz][quote="Renji Asuka":4mwzfrwz]

So your argument amounts to nothing more than "lalalala I can't hear you! Lalalalalalala"

You also tell me to stop talking about pregnant men. But aren't you arguing the idea that a woman can become a man and vice versa? And thus a man can be pregnant? Or are you backing out of that argument because you know how foolish it is?
[/quote:4mwzfrwz][/quote:4mwzfrwz][/quote:4mwzfrwz]

My argument is that our perception of the world changes overtime. How we perceived/recorded science/history is very different from 1000 years ago (this is the 3rd time I've stated this argument)

It just hit me. You keep saying 'pregnant men (gender)' and not 'pregnant MALE (sex).' You don't understand the difference between gender and sex, or you're just assuming they're the same thing. You just proved to me that you do not understand the subject matter at the most basic level.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1dmipcrk][quote="Excellion":1dmipcrk][quote="Renji Asuka":1dmipcrk]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:1dmipcrk]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.[/quote:1dmipcrk]
I mean...when LGBTQ+ want to be able to control speech and what kind of speech on top of that, the fact that diversity hires are a thing.

That'd be "too many rights". Which is the context of what Genexwrecker stated.[/quote:1dmipcrk]

"wanted to bl able to control speech"
Do you mean respecting pronouns? Cuz its really not hard to do.

[quote="troglyte":29hoouym][quote="Renji Asuka":29hoouym][quote="troglyte":29hoouym][/quote:29hoouym][/quote:29hoouym]

My argument is that our perception of the world changes overtime. How we perceived/recorded science/history is very different from 1000 years ago (this is the 3rd time I've stated this argument)

It just hit me. You keep saying 'pregnant men (gender)' and not 'pregnant MALE (sex).' You don't understand the difference between gender and sex, or you're just assuming they're the same thing. You just proved to me that you do not understand the subject matter at the most basic level.[/quote:29hoouym]
Do you know about the experiment that John Money had done? He is one of the founding fathers of the idea that "Gender is a social construct".

He raised a pair of twin boys. 1 as a boy and 1 as a girl. He forced the one that was raised as a girl to be in sexual submissive poses while having the brother dry hump him while John Money took photos. He forced the one that was raised as a girl to grow his hair out and to wear dresses while also being forced to play with dolls. In secret the boy that was raised as a girl played with his brother's toys.

John Money declared his experiment a success, when it wasn't. One of the boys died from drug overdose, the other shot himself in the face with a sawn off shotgun.

But please keep telling me that sex and gender is separate when even the end results of the experiment showed otherwise.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1jh07rl0][quote="Renji Asuka":1jh07rl0][quote="Excellion":1jh07rl0]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.[/quote:1jh07rl0]
I mean...when LGBTQ+ want to be able to control speech and what kind of speech on top of that, the fact that diversity hires are a thing.

That'd be "too many rights". Which is the context of what Genexwrecker stated.[/quote:1jh07rl0]

"wanted to bl able to control speech"
Do you mean respecting pronouns? Cuz its really not hard to do.[/quote:1jh07rl0]
You mean forcing me (for instance) to give into the delusions of the mentally ill? Do you not realize how dangerous that is? Imagine giving in to the delusions of a schizophrenic, odds are you'd end up in a very dangerous situation or the person in question. The same can be said for those who have gender dysphoria. Especially if no pushback is allowed.

There is a minor group within the minor group of the trans community who are shunned by the trans community because they detransitioned. They realized they weren't pushed back enough. Yet the Trans community constantly pushes their ideology onto children effectively grooming them.

I can bring up many examples of this happening and I guarantee you'd call me transphobic after this conversation. Hell just look at the suicide rates of those who are trans. It isn't "society's fault" that they do decide to kill themselves, it's the fact they are mentally ill. I'm not saying there are not people out there that won't commit violence towards trans people, just the fact that odds are they have some form of depression that gets to be too much for them. Gender Dysphoria is already a chemical imbalance then adding depression on top of that, it's no wonder that trans community end up killing themselves.

How about instead of, oh I don't know, transitioning people, we look for REAL solutions to the problem like you would with any other mental illness.

The "hate" towards trans people these days aren't about the fact that the person is trans, but that the LGBTQ+ is pushing their toxic ideology on children. The LGBTQ+ community seems to (for whatever reason) want to prey on children. It doesn't help that their community is riddled with pedophiles and yet the community doesn't out them. It doesn't help that the community is indoctrinating children IN SCHOOLS which indoctrination is illegal FYI. There's a reason why public school teachers weren't allowed to teach children religion or push their religious beliefs onto children. Yet these days, it's perfectly fine? Sorry you don't get to talk to a child about adult topics or bring them to adult settings. At that point it's child abuse.

You'll probably deny all of this though or try to dismiss it, despite it being an actual problem. Hell, I can make a bet that you don't support Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill".

[quote="Renji Asuka":ombkrqiq][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":ombkrqiq][quote="Renji Asuka":ombkrqiq]
I mean...when LGBTQ+ want to be able to control speech and what kind of speech on top of that, the fact that diversity hires are a thing.

That'd be "too many rights". Which is the context of what Genexwrecker stated.[/quote:ombkrqiq]

"wanted to bl able to control speech"
Do you mean respecting pronouns? Cuz its really not hard to do.[/quote:ombkrqiq]
You mean forcing me (for instance) to give into the delusions of the mentally ill? Do you not realize how dangerous that is? Imagine giving in to the delusions of a schizophrenic, odds are you'd end up in a very dangerous situation or the person in question. The same can be said for those who have gender dysphoria. Especially if no pushback is allowed.

There is a minor group within the minor group of the trans community who are shunned by the trans community because they detransitioned. They realized they weren't pushed back enough. Yet the Trans community constantly pushes their ideology onto children effectively grooming them.

I can bring up many examples of this happening and I guarantee you'd call me transphobic after this conversation. Hell just look at the suicide rates of those who are trans. It isn't "society's fault" that they do decide to kill themselves, it's the fact they are mentally ill. I'm not saying there are not people out there that won't commit violence towards trans people, just the fact that odds are they have some form of depression that gets to be too much for them. Gender Dysphoria is already a chemical imbalance then adding depression on top of that, it's no wonder that trans community end up killing themselves.

How about instead of, oh I don't know, transitioning people, we look for REAL solutions to the problem like you would with any other mental illness.

The "hate" towards trans people these days aren't about the fact that the person is trans, but that the LGBTQ+ is pushing their toxic ideology on children. The LGBTQ+ community seems to (for whatever reason) want to prey on children. It doesn't help that their community is riddled with pedophiles and yet the community doesn't out them. It doesn't help that the community is indoctrinating children IN SCHOOLS which indoctrination is illegal FYI. There's a reason why public school teachers weren't allowed to teach children religion or push their religious beliefs onto children. Yet these days, it's perfectly fine? Sorry you don't get to talk to a child about adult topics or bring them to adult settings. At that point it's child abuse.

You'll probably deny all of this though or try to dismiss it, despite it being an actual problem. Hell, I can make a bet that you don't support Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill".[/quote:ombkrqiq]

Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":13rpv443][quote="Renji Asuka":13rpv443][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":13rpv443]

"wanted to bl able to control speech"
Do you mean respecting pronouns? Cuz its really not hard to do.[/quote:13rpv443]
You mean forcing me (for instance) to give into the delusions of the mentally ill? Do you not realize how dangerous that is? Imagine giving in to the delusions of a schizophrenic, odds are you'd end up in a very dangerous situation or the person in question. The same can be said for those who have gender dysphoria. Especially if no pushback is allowed.

There is a minor group within the minor group of the trans community who are shunned by the trans community because they detransitioned. They realized they weren't pushed back enough. Yet the Trans community constantly pushes their ideology onto children effectively grooming them.

I can bring up many examples of this happening and I guarantee you'd call me transphobic after this conversation. Hell just look at the suicide rates of those who are trans. It isn't "society's fault" that they do decide to kill themselves, it's the fact they are mentally ill. I'm not saying there are not people out there that won't commit violence towards trans people, just the fact that odds are they have some form of depression that gets to be too much for them. Gender Dysphoria is already a chemical imbalance then adding depression on top of that, it's no wonder that trans community end up killing themselves.

How about instead of, oh I don't know, transitioning people, we look for REAL solutions to the problem like you would with any other mental illness.

The "hate" towards trans people these days aren't about the fact that the person is trans, but that the LGBTQ+ is pushing their toxic ideology on children. The LGBTQ+ community seems to (for whatever reason) want to prey on children. It doesn't help that their community is riddled with pedophiles and yet the community doesn't out them. It doesn't help that the community is indoctrinating children IN SCHOOLS which indoctrination is illegal FYI. There's a reason why public school teachers weren't allowed to teach children religion or push their religious beliefs onto children. Yet these days, it's perfectly fine? Sorry you don't get to talk to a child about adult topics or bring them to adult settings. At that point it's child abuse.

You'll probably deny all of this though or try to dismiss it, despite it being an actual problem. Hell, I can make a bet that you don't support Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill".[/quote:13rpv443]

Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".[/quote:13rpv443]
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.

1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.

2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.

3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.

4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.

5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.

6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.

7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.

Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1pnmzewa][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1pnmzewa][quote="Renji Asuka":1pnmzewa]
You mean forcing me (for instance) to give into the delusions of the mentally ill? Do you not realize how dangerous that is? Imagine giving in to the delusions of a schizophrenic, odds are you'd end up in a very dangerous situation or the person in question. The same can be said for those who have gender dysphoria. Especially if no pushback is allowed.

There is a minor group within the minor group of the trans community who are shunned by the trans community because they detransitioned. They realized they weren't pushed back enough. Yet the Trans community constantly pushes their ideology onto children effectively grooming them.

I can bring up many examples of this happening and I guarantee you'd call me transphobic after this conversation. Hell just look at the suicide rates of those who are trans. It isn't "society's fault" that they do decide to kill themselves, it's the fact they are mentally ill. I'm not saying there are not people out there that won't commit violence towards trans people, just the fact that odds are they have some form of depression that gets to be too much for them. Gender Dysphoria is already a chemical imbalance then adding depression on top of that, it's no wonder that trans community end up killing themselves.

How about instead of, oh I don't know, transitioning people, we look for REAL solutions to the problem like you would with any other mental illness.

The "hate" towards trans people these days aren't about the fact that the person is trans, but that the LGBTQ+ is pushing their toxic ideology on children. The LGBTQ+ community seems to (for whatever reason) want to prey on children. It doesn't help that their community is riddled with pedophiles and yet the community doesn't out them. It doesn't help that the community is indoctrinating children IN SCHOOLS which indoctrination is illegal FYI. There's a reason why public school teachers weren't allowed to teach children religion or push their religious beliefs onto children. Yet these days, it's perfectly fine? Sorry you don't get to talk to a child about adult topics or bring them to adult settings. At that point it's child abuse.

You'll probably deny all of this though or try to dismiss it, despite it being an actual problem. Hell, I can make a bet that you don't support Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill".[/quote:1pnmzewa]

Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".[/quote:1pnmzewa]
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.

1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.

2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.

3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.

4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.

5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.

6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.

7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.

Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.[/quote:1pnmzewa]

1. the "is this satire" was so fair because you're only point was "gay bad, because I said so, and will completely ignore actual points"
2. Please understand you can quote someone without quoting the exact phrase. You really need to take an English course.
3. Yes children are impressionable that's why we should make them hate an entire community because bigots like you say "gay people bad" when its clear you don't have an understanding on how gay people act. Lgbtq isn't an adult topic, sex and kinks are and that is something different then saying "men like men" and "Sometimes people change genders"
4. I'm not saying lgbtq = pedophilia, I'm dismissing your only point about lgbtq which is "Lgbtq = pedos" which it doesn't. Just because someone uses your words doesn't mean they agree with you. You need to understand how some people use context in a text to write points.
5. You're complaining, that's so stupid. No one says "I'm going to complain" when they complain.
6. You're underestimating children (which is surprising because you do act like one) children do need an understanding of reality but constantly blocking off lgbtq knowledge because of "religious beliefs" isn't okay but its literally forcing them into believing in 1 faith. Let children learn and make decisions on their own.
7. Even if you say its an illness (which it isn't) you don't harass people for having it. Only pieces of shit do that.

" So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics" Says someone who literally doesn't know anything about the topic except shitposts from twitter. You're saying I'm "Pissy" because unlike you I can back up my arguments with basic human knowledge. If you weren't such a piece of shit you probably would understand.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3quzf1sz][quote="Renji Asuka":3quzf1sz][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":3quzf1sz]

Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".[/quote:3quzf1sz]
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.

1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.

2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.

3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.

4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.

5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.

6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.

7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.

Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.[/quote:3quzf1sz]

1. the "is this satire" was so fair because you're only point was "gay bad, because I said so, and will completely ignore actual points"
2. Please understand you can quote someone without quoting the exact phrase. You really need to take an English course.
3. Yes children are impressionable that's why we should make them hate an entire community because bigots like you say "gay people bad" when its clear you don't have an understanding on how gay people act. Lgbtq isn't an adult topic, sex and kinks are and that is something different then saying "men like men" and "Sometimes people change genders"
4. I'm not saying lgbtq = pedophilia, I'm dismissing your only point about lgbtq which is "Lgbtq = pedos" which it doesn't. Just because someone uses your words doesn't mean they agree with you. You need to understand how some people use context in a text to write points.
5. You're complaining, that's so stupid. No one says "I'm going to complain" when they complain.
6. You're underestimating children (which is surprising because you do act like one) children do need an understanding of reality but constantly blocking off lgbtq knowledge because of "religious beliefs" isn't okay but its literally forcing them into believing in 1 faith. Let children learn and make decisions on their own.
7. Even if you say its an illness (which it isn't) you don't harass people for having it. Only pieces of shit do that.

" So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics" Says someone who literally doesn't know anything about the topic except shitposts from twitter. You're saying I'm "Pissy" because unlike you I can back up my arguments with basic human knowledge. If you weren't such a piece of shit you probably would understand.[/quote:3quzf1sz]
1. Completely incorrect. You can't quote me on that and no it wasn't implied. Again you're exposing your own intellectual dishonesty here.
2. No, you can't. What you're looking for is "paraphrasing" and how you "paraphrased" it, is still incorrect.
3. More intellectual dishonesty is coming from you. If you think it's okay to talk to a kid about adult topics, YOU are the problem. Most people would consider that grooming, especially if you do it behind the parent's back.
4. You literally tried to equate LGBTQ+ = Pedophilia acting as if I stated the entire community are pedophiles. You then proceed to talk about context, yet you tried to ignore the context behind what Genexwrecker stated and even tried to misrepresent them. But now you care about context? If you're going to make an argument, apply it universally or acknowledge that you'd be a hypocrite.
5. So you have no idea what complaining actually is. Glad to know you only proved my point. Work on your reading comprehension skills and maybe you can actually have a conversation.
6. Very ironic since you decided to throw an entire bitch fit because "how dare someone have a different view than mine! Now I must lie and be intellectual dishonest to talk down to a person on the internet so I can attempt to bully them into submission!". Which is exactly what you're attempting to do.
7. Yes, gender dysphoria is a mental illness and is classified as such, if you knew anything about the trans community, you would know this.

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. The diagnosis was created to help people with gender dysphoria get access to necessary health care and effective treatment. The term focuses on discomfort as the problem, rather than identity.

Source: [url:3quzf1sz]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255[/url:3quzf1sz]

Do you really want act as if you're knowledgeable on the subject when you're obviously ignorant when it comes to mental illness?

[quote="Renji Asuka":6jgj39dk][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":6jgj39dk][quote="Renji Asuka":6jgj39dk]
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.

1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.

2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.

3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.

4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.

5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.

6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.

7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.

Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.[/quote:6jgj39dk]

1. the "is this satire" was so fair because you're only point was "gay bad, because I said so, and will completely ignore actual points"
2. Please understand you can quote someone without quoting the exact phrase. You really need to take an English course.
3. Yes children are impressionable that's why we should make them hate an entire community because bigots like you say "gay people bad" when its clear you don't have an understanding on how gay people act. Lgbtq isn't an adult topic, sex and kinks are and that is something different then saying "men like men" and "Sometimes people change genders"
4. I'm not saying lgbtq = pedophilia, I'm dismissing your only point about lgbtq which is "Lgbtq = pedos" which it doesn't. Just because someone uses your words doesn't mean they agree with you. You need to understand how some people use context in a text to write points.
5. You're complaining, that's so stupid. No one says "I'm going to complain" when they complain.
6. You're underestimating children (which is surprising because you do act like one) children do need an understanding of reality but constantly blocking off lgbtq knowledge because of "religious beliefs" isn't okay but its literally forcing them into believing in 1 faith. Let children learn and make decisions on their own.
7. Even if you say its an illness (which it isn't) you don't harass people for having it. Only pieces of shit do that.

" So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics" Says someone who literally doesn't know anything about the topic except shitposts from twitter. You're saying I'm "Pissy" because unlike you I can back up my arguments with basic human knowledge. If you weren't such a piece of shit you probably would understand.[/quote:6jgj39dk]
1. Completely incorrect. You can't quote me on that and no it wasn't implied. Again you're exposing your own intellectual dishonesty here.
2. No, you can't. What you're looking for is "paraphrasing" and how you "paraphrased" it, is still incorrect.
3. More intellectual dishonesty is coming from you. If you think it's okay to talk to a kid about adult topics, YOU are the problem. Most people would consider that grooming, especially if you do it behind the parent's back.
4. You literally tried to equate LGBTQ+ = Pedophilia acting as if I stated the entire community are pedophiles. You then proceed to talk about context, yet you tried to ignore the context behind what Genexwrecker stated and even tried to misrepresent them. But now you care about context? If you're going to make an argument, apply it universally or acknowledge that you'd be a hypocrite.
5. So you have no idea what complaining actually is. Glad to know you only proved my point. Work on your reading comprehension skills and maybe you can actually have a conversation.
6. Very ironic since you decided to throw an entire bitch fit because "how dare someone have a different view than mine! Now I must lie and be intellectual dishonest to talk down to a person on the internet so I can attempt to bully them into submission!". Which is exactly what you're attempting to do.
7. Yes, gender dysphoria is a mental illness and is classified as such, if you knew anything about the trans community, you would know this.

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. The diagnosis was created to help people with gender dysphoria get access to necessary health care and effective treatment. The term focuses on discomfort as the problem, rather than identity.

Source: [url:6jgj39dk]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255[/url:6jgj39dk]

Do you really want act as if you're knowledgeable on the subject when you're obviously ignorant when it comes to mental illness?[/quote:6jgj39dk]


I'm sick of this, all you're doing is just completely ignoring my points. Its like I'm trying to talk to a brick wall.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":15cg5tt9][quote="Renji Asuka":15cg5tt9][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":15cg5tt9]

1. the "is this satire" was so fair because you're only point was "gay bad, because I said so, and will completely ignore actual points"
2. Please understand you can quote someone without quoting the exact phrase. You really need to take an English course.
3. Yes children are impressionable that's why we should make them hate an entire community because bigots like you say "gay people bad" when its clear you don't have an understanding on how gay people act. Lgbtq isn't an adult topic, sex and kinks are and that is something different then saying "men like men" and "Sometimes people change genders"
4. I'm not saying lgbtq = pedophilia, I'm dismissing your only point about lgbtq which is "Lgbtq = pedos" which it doesn't. Just because someone uses your words doesn't mean they agree with you. You need to understand how some people use context in a text to write points.
5. You're complaining, that's so stupid. No one says "I'm going to complain" when they complain.
6. You're underestimating children (which is surprising because you do act like one) children do need an understanding of reality but constantly blocking off lgbtq knowledge because of "religious beliefs" isn't okay but its literally forcing them into believing in 1 faith. Let children learn and make decisions on their own.
7. Even if you say its an illness (which it isn't) you don't harass people for having it. Only pieces of shit do that.

" So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics" Says someone who literally doesn't know anything about the topic except shitposts from twitter. You're saying I'm "Pissy" because unlike you I can back up my arguments with basic human knowledge. If you weren't such a piece of shit you probably would understand.[/quote:15cg5tt9]
1. Completely incorrect. You can't quote me on that and no it wasn't implied. Again you're exposing your own intellectual dishonesty here.
2. No, you can't. What you're looking for is "paraphrasing" and how you "paraphrased" it, is still incorrect.
3. More intellectual dishonesty is coming from you. If you think it's okay to talk to a kid about adult topics, YOU are the problem. Most people would consider that grooming, especially if you do it behind the parent's back.
4. You literally tried to equate LGBTQ+ = Pedophilia acting as if I stated the entire community are pedophiles. You then proceed to talk about context, yet you tried to ignore the context behind what Genexwrecker stated and even tried to misrepresent them. But now you care about context? If you're going to make an argument, apply it universally or acknowledge that you'd be a hypocrite.
5. So you have no idea what complaining actually is. Glad to know you only proved my point. Work on your reading comprehension skills and maybe you can actually have a conversation.
6. Very ironic since you decided to throw an entire bitch fit because "how dare someone have a different view than mine! Now I must lie and be intellectual dishonest to talk down to a person on the internet so I can attempt to bully them into submission!". Which is exactly what you're attempting to do.
7. Yes, gender dysphoria is a mental illness and is classified as such, if you knew anything about the trans community, you would know this.

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. The diagnosis was created to help people with gender dysphoria get access to necessary health care and effective treatment. The term focuses on discomfort as the problem, rather than identity.

Source: [url:15cg5tt9]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255[/url:15cg5tt9]

Do you really want act as if you're knowledgeable on the subject when you're obviously ignorant when it comes to mental illness?[/quote:15cg5tt9]


I'm sick of this, all you're doing is just completely ignoring my points. Its like I'm trying to talk to a brick wall.[/quote:15cg5tt9]
Don't be intellectually dishonest and stay out any form of politics.

it's hilarious that this is your response, especially when I shown you just 1 piece of evidence of how you're wrong. You'd probably say the same thing if I shown you a mountain of evidence to back up reality

But hey, I did my job in exposing your own stupidity and bullshit.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2q2lkwr8][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":2q2lkwr8][quote="Renji Asuka":2q2lkwr8]
1. Completely incorrect. You can't quote me on that and no it wasn't implied. Again you're exposing your own intellectual dishonesty here.
2. No, you can't. What you're looking for is "paraphrasing" and how you "paraphrased" it, is still incorrect.
3. More intellectual dishonesty is coming from you. If you think it's okay to talk to a kid about adult topics, YOU are the problem. Most people would consider that grooming, especially if you do it behind the parent's back.
4. You literally tried to equate LGBTQ+ = Pedophilia acting as if I stated the entire community are pedophiles. You then proceed to talk about context, yet you tried to ignore the context behind what Genexwrecker stated and even tried to misrepresent them. But now you care about context? If you're going to make an argument, apply it universally or acknowledge that you'd be a hypocrite.
5. So you have no idea what complaining actually is. Glad to know you only proved my point. Work on your reading comprehension skills and maybe you can actually have a conversation.
6. Very ironic since you decided to throw an entire bitch fit because "how dare someone have a different view than mine! Now I must lie and be intellectual dishonest to talk down to a person on the internet so I can attempt to bully them into submission!". Which is exactly what you're attempting to do.
7. Yes, gender dysphoria is a mental illness and is classified as such, if you knew anything about the trans community, you would know this.

A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. The diagnosis was created to help people with gender dysphoria get access to necessary health care and effective treatment. The term focuses on discomfort as the problem, rather than identity.

Source: [url:2q2lkwr8]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/symptoms-causes/syc-20475255[/url:2q2lkwr8]

Do you really want act as if you're knowledgeable on the subject when you're obviously ignorant when it comes to mental illness?[/quote:2q2lkwr8]


I'm sick of this, all you're doing is just completely ignoring my points. Its like I'm trying to talk to a brick wall.[/quote:2q2lkwr8]
Don't be intellectually dishonest and stay out any form of politics.

it's hilarious that this is your response, especially when I shown you just 1 piece of evidence of how you're wrong. You'd probably say the same thing if I shown you a mountain of evidence to back up reality

But hey, I did my job in exposing your own stupidity and bullshit.[/quote:2q2lkwr8]

literally, my response was made because I'm smart enough to know when to stop trying to educate someone who doesn't wanna be educated but continue sucking your own dick for no reason. pop off ig.

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1jayet23][quote="Renji Asuka":1jayet23][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1jayet23]


I'm sick of this, all you're doing is just completely ignoring my points. Its like I'm trying to talk to a brick wall.[/quote:1jayet23]
Don't be intellectually dishonest and stay out any form of politics.

it's hilarious that this is your response, especially when I shown you just 1 piece of evidence of how you're wrong. You'd probably say the same thing if I shown you a mountain of evidence to back up reality

But hey, I did my job in exposing your own stupidity and bullshit.[/quote:1jayet23]

literally, my response was made because I'm smart enough to know when to stop trying to educate someone who doesn't wanna be educated but continue sucking your own dick for no reason. pop off ig.[/quote:1jayet23]
If that was the case, you wouldn't had responded

But how can you "educate" when you misrepresent what is being told to you? No, you're intellectually dishonest. No, if you actually wanted an education on the matter, you have to listen to what others say and understand why they say what they do. That is how proper discussions are made.

You also can't "educate" others when there is a mountain of evidence to support what I have stated. I can drop many instances of what I stated happening, but because you were indoctrinated into your cult you refuse to see the actual issue. It's people like you (regarding the subject of the LGBTQ) that actively try to hide the issues that stem from the community instead of confronting them head on. You're just a coward and a fool.

Bruh wtf is this thread. Never really expected to see these funky words in child game simulator forum. Troglyte is right on all of this, YGO players aren't prepared to discuss topics like this, when both sides clearly devolved into insulting each other's argument in no time. "El respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz."

Can we just go back to figuring out if jack atlas is hot or not?

[quote="Excellion":38gxaiik][quote="Renji Asuka":38gxaiik][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":38gxaiik]

The homophobic thing is mostly from Genex from their replies on a forum post for someone asking for an NB option.
https://imgur.com/a/AFe9Al6[/quote:38gxaiik]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:38gxaiik]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.[/quote:38gxaiik]

How many more times are you gonna keep repeating this analogy I debunked not once but twice already?

[quote="I Only Play Water Decks":38gxaiik][quote="Renji Asuka":38gxaiik][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":38gxaiik]

Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".[/quote:38gxaiik]
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.

1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.

2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.

3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.

4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.

5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.

6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.

7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.

Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.[/quote:38gxaiik]

1. the "is this satire" was so fair because you're only point was "gay bad, because I said so, and will completely ignore actual points"
2. Please understand you can quote someone without quoting the exact phrase. You really need to take an English course.
3. Yes children are impressionable that's why we should make them hate an entire community because bigots like you say "gay people bad" when its clear you don't have an understanding on how gay people act. Lgbtq isn't an adult topic, sex and kinks are and that is something different then saying "men like men" and "Sometimes people change genders"
4. I'm not saying lgbtq = pedophilia, I'm dismissing your only point about lgbtq which is "Lgbtq = pedos" which it doesn't. Just because someone uses your words doesn't mean they agree with you. You need to understand how some people use context in a text to write points.
5. You're complaining, that's so stupid. No one says "I'm going to complain" when they complain.
6. You're underestimating children (which is surprising because you do act like one) children do need an understanding of reality but constantly blocking off lgbtq knowledge because of "religious beliefs" isn't okay but its literally forcing them into believing in 1 faith. Let children learn and make decisions on their own. [/quote:38gxaiik]

The "reality" is, there have always been only 2 genders: Male and female. If all your chromosomes are X, you're female, and if any of them are Y, you're male. Simple as that. We shouldn't pander to those who want to sexually identify as other arbitrary genders. We shouldn't bring indoctrination into schools by teaching kids that there are millions of different genders and whatnot when there aren't.

I didn't want to bring it up, but there is a condition named Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, in which a chromosomal male has a more or less female body. Now stop talking about what defines a gender on forums for an anonymized website for a card game.

[quote="greg503":1eipgg3h]I didn't want to bring it up, but there is a condition named Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, in which a chromosomal male has a more or less female body. Now stop talking about what defines a gender on forums for an anonymized website for a card game.[/quote:1eipgg3h]
Why do I imagine a femboy from your description? Thanks for that, it made me chuckle.

[quote="greg503":3qmjzk1z]I didn't want to bring it up, but there is a condition named Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, in which a chromosomal male has a more or less female body.[/quote:3qmjzk1z]

Then they're biologically male, just with a female-looking body.

Now stop talking about what defines a gender on forums for an anonymized website for a card game.

Tell that to Excellion and I Only Play Water Decks. Those two were the ones bringing up this gender stuff in the first place and causing things to escalate from there.

yikes how many times are we gonna go over the same 20 arguments and without me at that

Why is this still going on.....

I don't care for pronounces and peeps can do what they want with their life. Feel like most are the same and don't care too much about other's decision or life.

Let's end it here and carry on with our life's.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3gnwivva][quote="Excellion":3gnwivva][quote="Renji Asuka":3gnwivva]
What exactly is "homophobic" to you?

Cause all I see is facts.

If facts are homophobic, then that says more about you than it does about the facts.[/quote:3gnwivva]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.[/quote:3gnwivva]
I mean...when LGBTQ+ want to be able to control speech and what kind of speech on top of that, the fact that diversity hires are a thing.

That'd be "too many rights". Which is the context of what Genexwrecker stated.[/quote:3gnwivva]
So Lgbtq wanting to "control speech" by asking people acknowlege them properly is too far, but "dont say gay" bills are fine? Also show me the diversity hire that picks someone based on sexual preference or gender identity, because doing so is illegal, and using common sense, how would an employer know, or verify someones sexaul preference or gender identity to the government to get any kind of benifits from hiring them... Also, arent you the one who tried to "control speech" by telling people what they can and cant talk about in your threads? Didnt you also try telling me that "homophobia means fear of one" completely ignoring its definition, Didnt you also claim that speaking about gay people=gender politics, So someone who knows nothing about the subject, complaining about lgbtq "controling speech" while actively trying to police what gets talked about and claiming theyre "privlaged" from the position of a Cishet... Hypocrite.

[quote="Renji Asuka":yxdps8a0][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":yxdps8a0][quote="Renji Asuka":yxdps8a0]
Don't be intellectually dishonest and stay out any form of politics.

it's hilarious that this is your response, especially when I shown you just 1 piece of evidence of how you're wrong. You'd probably say the same thing if I shown you a mountain of evidence to back up reality

But hey, I did my job in exposing your own stupidity and bullshit.[/quote:yxdps8a0]

literally, my response was made because I'm smart enough to know when to stop trying to educate someone who doesn't wanna be educated but continue sucking your own dick for no reason. pop off ig.[/quote:yxdps8a0]
If that was the case, you wouldn't had responded

But how can you "educate" when you misrepresent what is being told to you? No, you're intellectually dishonest. No, if you actually wanted an education on the matter, you have to listen to what others say and understand why they say what they do. That is how proper discussions are made.

You also can't "educate" others when there is a mountain of evidence to support what I have stated. I can drop many instances of what I stated happening, but because you were indoctrinated into your cult you refuse to see the actual issue. It's people like you (regarding the subject of the LGBTQ) that actively try to hide the issues that stem from the community instead of confronting them head on. You're just a coward and a fool.[/quote:yxdps8a0]
you dont even know what homophobia means, you arent educated enough to take part in this discussion.

[quote="Renji Asuka":nig5too1][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":nig5too1][quote="Renji Asuka":nig5too1]
You mean forcing me (for instance) to give into the delusions of the mentally ill? Do you not realize how dangerous that is? Imagine giving in to the delusions of a schizophrenic, odds are you'd end up in a very dangerous situation or the person in question. The same can be said for those who have gender dysphoria. Especially if no pushback is allowed.

There is a minor group within the minor group of the trans community who are shunned by the trans community because they detransitioned. They realized they weren't pushed back enough. Yet the Trans community constantly pushes their ideology onto children effectively grooming them.

I can bring up many examples of this happening and I guarantee you'd call me transphobic after this conversation. Hell just look at the suicide rates of those who are trans. It isn't "society's fault" that they do decide to kill themselves, it's the fact they are mentally ill. I'm not saying there are not people out there that won't commit violence towards trans people, just the fact that odds are they have some form of depression that gets to be too much for them. Gender Dysphoria is already a chemical imbalance then adding depression on top of that, it's no wonder that trans community end up killing themselves.

How about instead of, oh I don't know, transitioning people, we look for REAL solutions to the problem like you would with any other mental illness.

The "hate" towards trans people these days aren't about the fact that the person is trans, but that the LGBTQ+ is pushing their toxic ideology on children. The LGBTQ+ community seems to (for whatever reason) want to prey on children. It doesn't help that their community is riddled with pedophiles and yet the community doesn't out them. It doesn't help that the community is indoctrinating children IN SCHOOLS which indoctrination is illegal FYI. There's a reason why public school teachers weren't allowed to teach children religion or push their religious beliefs onto children. Yet these days, it's perfectly fine? Sorry you don't get to talk to a child about adult topics or bring them to adult settings. At that point it's child abuse.

You'll probably deny all of this though or try to dismiss it, despite it being an actual problem. Hell, I can make a bet that you don't support Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill".[/quote:nig5too1]

Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".[/quote:nig5too1]
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.

1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.

2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.

3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.

4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.

5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.

6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.

7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.

Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.[/quote:nig5too1]
funny enough all these arguements would also apply to religion... yet the larger community has no problem accepting christianity even though you are far more likely to be sexually assaulted by a priest according to the DoJ, Churches have been indoctrinating children to believe in THEIR delusions for centuries, and no one ever seems to see an issue with forcing kids to join in religious practices like saying "one nation under god" every day in the class room, or being forced to take part in a prayer before sporting events in public schools, or banning and regulating "non-christian" books, But youre right, the real problem here are people who just want to go by "She" instead of "He", not the group that produces the highest amount of domestic terrorists and extremists in the nation.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1xkcu57e][quote="troglyte":1xkcu57e][quote="Renji Asuka":1xkcu57e][/quote:1xkcu57e]

My argument is that our perception of the world changes overtime. How we perceived/recorded science/history is very different from 1000 years ago (this is the 3rd time I've stated this argument)

It just hit me. You keep saying 'pregnant men (gender)' and not 'pregnant MALE (sex).' You don't understand the difference between gender and sex, or you're just assuming they're the same thing. You just proved to me that you do not understand the subject matter at the most basic level.[/quote:1xkcu57e]
Do you know about the experiment that John Money had done? He is one of the founding fathers of the idea that "Gender is a social construct".

He raised a pair of twin boys. 1 as a boy and 1 as a girl. He forced the one that was raised as a girl to be in sexual submissive poses while having the brother dry hump him while John Money took photos. He forced the one that was raised as a girl to grow his hair out and to wear dresses while also being forced to play with dolls. In secret the boy that was raised as a girl played with his brother's toys.

John Money declared his experiment a success, when it wasn't. One of the boys died from drug overdose, the other shot himself in the face with a sawn off shotgun.

But please keep telling me that sex and gender is separate when even the end results of the experiment showed otherwise.[/quote:1xkcu57e]

You already made this argument in a previous thread, and it has already been addressed by BoomerDuels, and I agree with him 100%. Here's the quote and the link.

"You understand that you both attack a strawman, give into reductio ad absurdum argumet fallacy, and assert "Common Sense" as superceding reality

1. The "Social Construct" theory does not get invalidated by 1 man and 1 man alone. Your argument is essentially, "1 man was a dickhead therefore, the point that him, alongside millions of others were making is wrong" which is not a very suitable argument. You also attack a strawman here, no-one is even using that as the main justification of their transgenderism. Over the past few decades, we have compiled strides in psychological research all of which confirms transgenderism neurological perspective, rather than a sociological one

2. You engage in Reductio ad Absurdum while also proclaiming that "Common Sense" is a better argument than reason. You blew up "we should listen to non-binary people" to, "Should we also listen to schitzophremic people, while also equating those as equally valid claims. You cannot do this and also claim that your argument doesn't lose its validity immediately. Transgender and Non-binary people are not schitzophrenic. And you seem to go by a simple "Men have penises, women have vaginas" argument, which you conpletely refused to back up. While it is true that this applies to most people, you use the common sense, to refer to someone with a penis as male, as a supposed argument which does not have anything to do with the argument we try to make"

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9874&p=83069#p83069

[quote="troglyte":2k13zag0][quote="Renji Asuka":2k13zag0][quote="troglyte":2k13zag0]

My argument is that our perception of the world changes overtime. How we perceived/recorded science/history is very different from 1000 years ago (this is the 3rd time I've stated this argument)

It just hit me. You keep saying 'pregnant men (gender)' and not 'pregnant MALE (sex).' You don't understand the difference between gender and sex, or you're just assuming they're the same thing. You just proved to me that you do not understand the subject matter at the most basic level.[/quote:2k13zag0]
Do you know about the experiment that John Money had done? He is one of the founding fathers of the idea that "Gender is a social construct".

He raised a pair of twin boys. 1 as a boy and 1 as a girl. He forced the one that was raised as a girl to be in sexual submissive poses while having the brother dry hump him while John Money took photos. He forced the one that was raised as a girl to grow his hair out and to wear dresses while also being forced to play with dolls. In secret the boy that was raised as a girl played with his brother's toys.

John Money declared his experiment a success, when it wasn't. One of the boys died from drug overdose, the other shot himself in the face with a sawn off shotgun.

But please keep telling me that sex and gender is separate when even the end results of the experiment showed otherwise.[/quote:2k13zag0]

You already made this argument in a previous thread, and it has already been addressed by BoomerDuels, and I agree with him 100%. Here's the quote and the link.

"You understand that you both attack a strawman, give into reductio ad absurdum argumet fallacy, and assert "Common Sense" as superceding reality

1. The "Social Construct" theory does not get invalidated by 1 man and 1 man alone. Your argument is essentially, "1 man was a dickhead therefore, the point that him, alongside millions of others were making is wrong" which is not a very suitable argument. You also attack a strawman here, no-one is even using that as the main justification of their transgenderism. Over the past few decades, we have compiled strides in psychological research all of which confirms transgenderism neurological perspective, rather than a sociological one

2. You engage in Reductio ad Absurdum while also proclaiming that "Common Sense" is a better argument than reason. You blew up "we should listen to non-binary people" to, "Should we also listen to schitzophremic people, while also equating those as equally valid claims. You cannot do this and also claim that your argument doesn't lose its validity immediately. Transgender and Non-binary people are not schitzophrenic. And you seem to go by a simple "Men have penises, women have vaginas" argument, which you conpletely refused to back up. While it is true that this applies to most people, you use the common sense, to refer to someone with a penis as male, as a supposed argument which does not have anything to do with the argument we try to make"

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9874&p=83069#p83069[/quote:2k13zag0]
The thing is, it isn't a "strawman". This is the only experiment that has been done on the subject. (As far as I know) which went through the scientific process.

The results PROVED gender isn't a social construct.

Until it goes through the scientific process to PROVE that gender is a social construct, it's not.

[quote="Excellion":1r3i3beb][quote="Renji Asuka":1r3i3beb][quote="I Only Play Water Decks":1r3i3beb]

literally, my response was made because I'm smart enough to know when to stop trying to educate someone who doesn't wanna be educated but continue sucking your own dick for no reason. pop off ig.[/quote:1r3i3beb]
If that was the case, you wouldn't had responded

But how can you "educate" when you misrepresent what is being told to you? No, you're intellectually dishonest. No, if you actually wanted an education on the matter, you have to listen to what others say and understand why they say what they do. That is how proper discussions are made.

You also can't "educate" others when there is a mountain of evidence to support what I have stated. I can drop many instances of what I stated happening, but because you were indoctrinated into your cult you refuse to see the actual issue. It's people like you (regarding the subject of the LGBTQ) that actively try to hide the issues that stem from the community instead of confronting them head on. You're just a coward and a fool.[/quote:1r3i3beb]
you dont even know what homophobia means, you arent educated enough to take part in this discussion.[/quote:1r3i3beb]
You mean I don't know what your incorrect definition.

Homo derives from same.

phobia derives from irrational fear or aversion

C'mon now.

Have you two learned NOTHING from the previous locked threads?

It amazes me just how fast these topics veer off the rails of their initial subject, and then proceed to keep getting further and further away from it until barreling off a cliff. How, in just a few pages of posts, did this thread change from being about "judge apologists" to more gender arguments?

I'll repeat what I said before in some of the other argument heavy threads. I don't know what you all expect to gain from arguing about this kind of thing publicly here. Whomever you're arguing against likely isn't going to change their stance, no matter what anyone else says. In the case of this whole gender argument that leaked into here from some other threads, those of you who think Genex's actions were unacceptable could just report them, and not complain about it publicly. It makes the process extremely easy for all parties by comparison. If what they said was uncalled for, something would then happen.

And as for you arguing against the people who make these threads, don't bother. They're likely not going to change their stance regardless of what any of you say, so leave those to us on the staff team.

[quote="Excellion":27yyhjhf][quote="Renji Asuka":27yyhjhf][quote="Excellion":27yyhjhf]
"lgbtq people have too many rights" isnt homophobic? but when the genexwrecker impersonator posted the same phrase, replacing "lgbtq" with "black" we all agreed its racist.[/quote:27yyhjhf]
I mean...when LGBTQ+ want to be able to control speech and what kind of speech on top of that, the fact that diversity hires are a thing.

That'd be "too many rights". Which is the context of what Genexwrecker stated.[/quote:27yyhjhf]
So Lgbtq wanting to "control speech" by asking people acknowlege them properly is too far,[/quote:27yyhjhf]

You address people either casually, professionally, or by their title, depending on the person in question. You don't need to address anyone by their "preferred gender pronoun". In a casual setting, I'm gonna address someone as "dude" or by their first name or nickname if they have one. In a professional setting, I'm gonna address someone as "Mr." (or "Ms."/"Mrs." if they're female) followed by their last name, and if I don't know their last name I'll address them by their title such as "Your Honor," "Professor," or "Officer" or whatever. If I don't know their title either, or I know they don't have one but I also don't know their name, I'll simply address them as "Sir" or "Ma'am". I'll also address them as such in certain settings such as when I'm in the military and required to address people as such. I'm not gonna address anyone as an attack helicopter just because they chose to sexually identify as one, unless I'm absolutely required to do so to keep my job or whatever.

but "dont say gay" bills are fine?

It's a common misconception that Florida's bill bans the use of the word "gay". It doesn't. It only restricts elementary schools from indoctrinating young students through LGBTQ propaganda in said schools.

Also show me the diversity hire that picks someone based on sexual preference or gender identity, because doing so is illegal, and using common sense, how would an employer know, or verify someones sexaul preference or gender identity to the government to get any kind of benifits from hiring them...

[url:27yyhjhf]https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/best-companies-lgbt-0617[/url:27yyhjhf]

funny enough all these arguements would also apply to religion... yet the larger community has no problem accepting christianity even though you are far more likely to be sexually assaulted by a priest according to the DoJ,

What's "yet the larger community has no problem accepting christianity" supposed to mean? At least you get an option to pick between Straight, Gay, and Bi in the settings. On the other hand, you don't even get to pick Christian or Atheist or whatever in the settings, meaning it's the opposite that's true — duelingbook "accepts" orientations more than religions.

Churches have been indoctrinating children to believe in THEIR delusions for centuries,

Yes but unlike school, you have the legal option of choosing not to attend church, so if you're concerned about your child being "indoctrinated" in a church, you can just choose not to send him there, whereas in America, there are laws against truancy, which explains why there's a bigger push to keep indoctrination out of schools than churches. [url:27yyhjhf]https://kidslegal.org/truancy[/url:27yyhjhf]

and no one ever seems to see an issue with forcing kids to join in religious practices like saying "one nation under god" every day in the class room, or being forced to take part in a prayer before sporting events in public schools, or banning and regulating "non-christian" books,

This depends on the school in question. Public schools generally don't force participation in these things, while some private schools may, and as a parent, you have the option of sending your child to either type of school depending on your values and what you can afford to do.

But youre right, the real problem here are people who just want to go by "She" instead of "He", not the group that produces the highest amount of domestic terrorists and extremists in the nation.

I'd argue both groups are equally problematic, but keep in mind that not all religions are the same, and not all religions produce that many terrorists/extremists.

[quote="Renji Asuka":qs87e7kz][quote="Excellion":qs87e7kz][quote="Renji Asuka":qs87e7kz]
If that was the case, you wouldn't had responded

But how can you "educate" when you misrepresent what is being told to you? No, you're intellectually dishonest. No, if you actually wanted an education on the matter, you have to listen to what others say and understand why they say what they do. That is how proper discussions are made.

You also can't "educate" others when there is a mountain of evidence to support what I have stated. I can drop many instances of what I stated happening, but because you were indoctrinated into your cult you refuse to see the actual issue. It's people like you (regarding the subject of the LGBTQ) that actively try to hide the issues that stem from the community instead of confronting them head on. You're just a coward and a fool.[/quote:qs87e7kz]
you dont even know what homophobia means, you arent educated enough to take part in this discussion.[/quote:qs87e7kz]
You mean I don't know what your incorrect definition.

Homo derives from same.

phobia derives from irrational fear or aversion

C'mon now.[/quote:qs87e7kz]
If you are going to jump through hops just to not accept the appropiate context of a word, at least do it right. Homophobic doesn't mean fear of the same. It means fear of the man, since it comes from Homo Sapiens. Also do you have proof to back up your meaning of Homophobic, because Oxford, Cambridge and Webster agree that Homophobic is an "Irrational fear against Homosexuality and/or Gay people." And just because the creator says it is said Jif, it doesnt make it wrong to say Gif.

[quote="Lil Oldman":343b3sh5][quote="Renji Asuka":343b3sh5][quote="Excellion":343b3sh5]
you dont even know what homophobia means, you arent educated enough to take part in this discussion.[/quote:343b3sh5]
You mean I don't know what your incorrect definition.

Homo derives from same.

phobia derives from irrational fear or aversion

C'mon now.[/quote:343b3sh5]
If you are going to jump through hops just to not accept the appropiate context of a word, at least do it right. Homophobic doesn't mean fear of the same. It means fear of the man, since it comes from Homo Sapiens. Also do you have proof to back up your meaning of Homophobic, because Oxford, Cambridge and Webster agree that Homophobic is an "Irrational fear against Homosexuality and/or Gay people." And just because the creator says it is said Jif, it doesnt make it wrong to say Gif.[/quote:343b3sh5]

Yes, but again, Genexwrecker wasn't expressing any "fear" of homosexual/gay people. She was only criticizing them for allegedly having unfair rights/advantages over everyone else. Criticism isn't fear.

[quote="Christen57":1n8giqur][quote="Lil Oldman":1n8giqur][quote="Renji Asuka":1n8giqur]
You mean I don't know what your incorrect definition.

Homo derives from same.

phobia derives from irrational fear or aversion

C'mon now.[/quote:1n8giqur]
If you are going to jump through hops just to not accept the appropiate context of a word, at least do it right. Homophobic doesn't mean fear of the same. It means fear of the man, since it comes from Homo Sapiens. Also do you have proof to back up your meaning of Homophobic, because Oxford, Cambridge and Webster agree that Homophobic is an "Irrational fear against Homosexuality and/or Gay people." And just because the creator says it is said Jif, it doesnt make it wrong to say Gif.[/quote:1n8giqur]

Yes, but again, Genexwrecker wasn't expressing any "fear" of homosexual/gay people. She was only criticizing them for allegedly having unfair rights/advantages over everyone else. Criticism isn't fear.[/quote:1n8giqur]
Oxford:
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.
Webster:
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or gay people
Cambridge:
Involving fear or dislike of gay people.

[quote="Lil Oldman":gefagbfz][quote="Christen57":gefagbfz][quote="Lil Oldman":gefagbfz]
If you are going to jump through hops just to not accept the appropiate context of a word, at least do it right. Homophobic doesn't mean fear of the same. It means fear of the man, since it comes from Homo Sapiens. Also do you have proof to back up your meaning of Homophobic, because Oxford, Cambridge and Webster agree that Homophobic is an "Irrational fear against Homosexuality and/or Gay people." And just because the creator says it is said Jif, it doesnt make it wrong to say Gif.[/quote:gefagbfz]

Yes, but again, Genexwrecker wasn't expressing any "fear" of homosexual/gay people. She was only criticizing them for allegedly having unfair rights/advantages over everyone else. Criticism isn't fear.[/quote:gefagbfz]
Oxford:
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.
Webster:
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or gay people
Cambridge:
Involving fear or dislike of gay people.[/quote:gefagbfz]

Genexwrecker was only criticizing. She wasn't "disliking," "fearing," or "discriminating". You can criticize something that you still like, that you don't fear, and without being discriminatory.

[quote="Christen57":1odio7yq][quote="Lil Oldman":1odio7yq][quote="Christen57":1odio7yq]

Yes, but again, Genexwrecker wasn't expressing any "fear" of homosexual/gay people. She was only criticizing them for allegedly having unfair rights/advantages over everyone else. Criticism isn't fear.[/quote:1odio7yq]
Oxford:
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.
Webster:
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or gay people
Cambridge:
Involving fear or dislike of gay people.[/quote:1odio7yq]

Genexwrecker was only criticizing. She wasn't "disliking," "fearing," or "discriminating". You can criticize something that you still like, that you don't fear, and without being discriminatory.[/quote:1odio7yq]
And when did I in my post mention her? As far as I remember I am just telling Renji that that word distortion they are doing is stupid.

[quote="Lil Oldman":29anve2h][quote="Christen57":29anve2h][quote="Lil Oldman":29anve2h]
Oxford:
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against gay people.
Webster:
irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or gay people
Cambridge:
Involving fear or dislike of gay people.[/quote:29anve2h]

Genexwrecker was only criticizing. She wasn't "disliking," "fearing," or "discriminating". You can criticize something that you still like, that you don't fear, and without being discriminatory.[/quote:29anve2h]
And when did I in my post mention her?[/quote:29anve2h]

Renji Asuka was responding to people who kept accusing her of homophobia.

[quote="Christen57":1b2x34ft][quote="Lil Oldman":1b2x34ft][quote="Christen57":1b2x34ft]

Genexwrecker was only criticizing. She wasn't "disliking," "fearing," or "discriminating". You can criticize something that you still like, that you don't fear, and without being discriminatory.[/quote:1b2x34ft]
And when did I in my post mention her?[/quote:1b2x34ft]

Renji Asuka was responding to people who kept accusing her of homophobia.[/quote:1b2x34ft]
As far as I remember I am just telling Renji that that word distortion they are doing is stupid.

[quote="Lil Oldman":1iqpg34h][quote="Christen57":1iqpg34h][quote="Lil Oldman":1iqpg34h]
And when did I in my post mention her?[/quote:1iqpg34h]

Renji Asuka was responding to people who kept accusing her of homophobia.[/quote:1iqpg34h]
As far as I remember I am just telling Renji that that word distortion they are doing is stupid.[/quote:1iqpg34h]

I think he was talking about "Homo" meaning "same," thus Homosexual meaning same sex, meaning being attracted to the same sex, though I suppose he should be more clear about that so there isn't confusion...

[quote="Christen57":3k1xdb95][quote="Lil Oldman":3k1xdb95][quote="Christen57":3k1xdb95]

Renji Asuka was responding to people who kept accusing her of homophobia.[/quote:3k1xdb95]
As far as I remember I am just telling Renji that that word distortion they are doing is stupid.[/quote:3k1xdb95]

I think he was talking about "Homo" meaning "same," thus Homosexual meaning same sex, meaning being attracted to the same sex, though I suppose he should be more clear about that so there isn't confusion...[/quote:3k1xdb95]
No. Otherwise they wouldn't be calling the other side's meaning incorrect.

Is every single topic going to turn into a debate that goes nowhere and has nothing to do with the original topic?

I don't care if you want to have a pointless discussion about LGBT+ (pointless because nobody will successfully change any minds) but give it its own topic. But the second that topic becomes disrespectful towards other participants or my judges, I will lock that topic in a heartbeat too.