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So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.

What I usually do is see if they start to type anything, if they do, I stop cold to see what they might say, at the same time of after every eff asking "k?" which conveys the entire message really.

Since I don't play rated, if they become malicious or start stalling way to much I just quit, but in the off chance probably calling a judge is the best course of action.

normaly i wait 8 depending on whats already happened if their silent about 5 to 6 if they are saying k i wait 8 if they read everything and think i always ask and wait for something

Except when every card they have access to is public knowledge and no responses are available to them

I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.

[quote="Sound4":15e16j6e]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:15e16j6e]

Communication is a 2-step process: Speaking and Listening. You need to do both for it to be called Communication.

Not listening is just as bad as not speaking. Both need to be held accountable.

Speaking of listening, there's an astronomical difference between 'your opponent not saying anything' and 'you not understanding what your opponent is saying.'

[quote="Sound4":2g7jo486]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:2g7jo486]
Considering the bullshit you been pulling, I recommend you staying out of Rated. You're lucky I'm not an admin otherwise I'd make you a perma beginner.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1vq6qjqz][quote="Sound4":1vq6qjqz]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:1vq6qjqz]
Considering the bullshit you been pulling, I recommend you staying out of Rated. You're lucky I'm not an admin otherwise I'd make you a perma beginner.[/quote:1vq6qjqz]
There is nothing that would warrant a permanent beginner status.

[quote="troglyte":1gu8wpoi][quote="Sound4":1gu8wpoi]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:1gu8wpoi]

Communication is a 2-step process: Speaking and Listening. You need to do both for it to be called Communication.

Not listening is just as bad as not speaking. Both need to be held accountable.

Speaking of listening, there's an astronomical difference between 'your opponent not saying anything' and 'you not understanding what your opponent is saying.'[/quote:1gu8wpoi]

Communication is an act of transferring information to a place, person or group. It depends on the situation who is held the most accountable but if the person is not communicating clearly then the one who is speaking should be the one held accountable the most.

Communicating clearly results in the parties involved satisfied and feeling accomplished. By delivering messages clearly, there is no room for misunderstanding or alteration of messages, which decreases the potential for conflict.
The one who is speaking not communicating clearly is the one starting the argument meaning the person who is starting the argument should be held accountable the most

[quote="Sound4":3m02nne2][quote="Renji Asuka":3m02nne2][quote="Sound4":3m02nne2]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:3m02nne2]
Considering the bullshit you been pulling, I recommend you staying out of Rated. You're lucky I'm not an admin otherwise I'd make you a perma beginner.[/quote:3m02nne2]
There is nothing that would warrant a permanent beginner status.[/quote:3m02nne2]
Your constant lying, your rule sharking, you not accepting a judge's decision, you not understanding that your opponent has a right to a response. All that's enough to warrant a perma beginner status.

[quote="Renji Asuka":24ta8vfv][quote="Sound4":24ta8vfv][quote="Renji Asuka":24ta8vfv]
Considering the bullshit you been pulling, I recommend you staying out of Rated. You're lucky I'm not an admin otherwise I'd make you a perma beginner.[/quote:24ta8vfv]
There is nothing that would warrant a permanent beginner status.[/quote:24ta8vfv]
Your constant lying, your rule sharking, you not accepting a judge's decision, you not understanding that your opponent has a right to a response. All that's enough to warrant a perma beginner status.[/quote:24ta8vfv]
There was no lying. The judge would have given me the game loss if I was rule sharking N3sh "decision" had its flaws which I was questioning but N3sh didn't care.

[quote="Sound4":k2kocytk][quote="Renji Asuka":k2kocytk][quote="Sound4":k2kocytk]
There is nothing that would warrant a permanent beginner status.[/quote:k2kocytk]
Your constant lying, your rule sharking, you not accepting a judge's decision, you not understanding that your opponent has a right to a response. All that's enough to warrant a perma beginner status.[/quote:k2kocytk]
There was no lying. The judge would have given me the game loss if I was rule sharking N3sh "decision" had its flaws which I was questioning but N3sh didn't care.[/quote:k2kocytk]
And you're still lying.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1hjndlgl][quote="Sound4":1hjndlgl][quote="Renji Asuka":1hjndlgl]
Your constant lying, your rule sharking, you not accepting a judge's decision, you not understanding that your opponent has a right to a response. All that's enough to warrant a perma beginner status.[/quote:1hjndlgl]
There was no lying. The judge would have given me the game loss if I was rule sharking N3sh "decision" had its flaws which I was questioning but N3sh didn't care.[/quote:1hjndlgl]
And you're still lying.[/quote:1hjndlgl]
It becomes full circle

[quote="Sound4":3uvnkuym][quote="Renji Asuka":3uvnkuym][quote="Sound4":3uvnkuym]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:3uvnkuym]
Considering the bullshit you been pulling, I recommend you staying out of Rated. You're lucky I'm not an admin otherwise I'd make you a perma beginner.[/quote:3uvnkuym]
There is nothing that would warrant a permanent beginner status.[/quote:3uvnkuym]
You're right, it warrants ANOTHER perma-ban.

[quote="Sound4":3hmnocno][quote="troglyte":3hmnocno][quote="Sound4":3hmnocno]I usually wait a few seconds for a response. If the opponent is not saying anything in the chat then that is not the opponents problem. Communication is key In DB and if you are not you should be held accountable. If you have bad connection then that is your responsibility the opponent may even call a judge for slow play because of this.[/quote:3hmnocno]

Communication is a 2-step process: Speaking and Listening. You need to do both for it to be called Communication.

Not listening is just as bad as not speaking. Both need to be held accountable.

Speaking of listening, there's an astronomical difference between 'your opponent not saying anything' and 'you not understanding what your opponent is saying.'[/quote:3hmnocno]

Communication is an act of transferring information to a place, person or group. It depends on the situation who is held the most accountable but if the person is not communicating clearly then the one who is speaking should be the one held accountable the most.

Communicating clearly results in the parties involved satisfied and feeling accomplished. By delivering messages clearly, there is no room for misunderstanding or alteration of messages, which decreases the potential for conflict.
The one who is speaking not communicating clearly is the one starting the argument meaning the person who is starting the argument should be held accountable the most[/quote:3hmnocno]
Which is what you did

[quote="greg503":omapu3j2][quote="Sound4":omapu3j2][quote="troglyte":omapu3j2]

Communication is a 2-step process: Speaking and Listening. You need to do both for it to be called Communication.

Not listening is just as bad as not speaking. Both need to be held accountable.

Speaking of listening, there's an astronomical difference between 'your opponent not saying anything' and 'you not understanding what your opponent is saying.'[/quote:omapu3j2]

Communication is an act of transferring information to a place, person or group. It depends on the situation who is held the most accountable but if the person is not communicating clearly then the one who is speaking should be the one held accountable the most.

Communicating clearly results in the parties involved satisfied and feeling accomplished. By delivering messages clearly, there is no room for misunderstanding or alteration of messages, which decreases the potential for conflict.
The one who is speaking not communicating clearly is the one starting the argument meaning the person who is starting the argument should be held accountable the most[/quote:omapu3j2]
Which is what you did [/quote:omapu3j2]
Can you elaborate?

[quote="Renji Asuka":ffqlxz5p][quote="Sound4":ffqlxz5p][quote="Renji Asuka":ffqlxz5p]
Your constant lying, your rule sharking, you not accepting a judge's decision, you not understanding that your opponent has a right to a response. All that's enough to warrant a perma beginner status.[/quote:ffqlxz5p]
There was no lying. The judge would have given me the game loss if I was rule sharking N3sh "decision" had its flaws which I was questioning but N3sh didn't care.[/quote:ffqlxz5p]
And you're still lying.[/quote:ffqlxz5p]
Explain

[quote="Sound4":s2gdkwhz][quote="Renji Asuka":s2gdkwhz][quote="Sound4":s2gdkwhz]
There was no lying. The judge would have given me the game loss if I was rule sharking N3sh "decision" had its flaws which I was questioning but N3sh didn't care.[/quote:s2gdkwhz]
And you're still lying.[/quote:s2gdkwhz]
Explain[/quote:s2gdkwhz]
Its been explained to you in the other thread. Now you're deliberately being stupid.

[quote="Renji Asuka":25equ5e2][quote="Sound4":25equ5e2][quote="Renji Asuka":25equ5e2]
And you're still lying.[/quote:25equ5e2]
Explain[/quote:25equ5e2]
Its been explained to you in the other thread. Now you're deliberately being stupid.[/quote:25equ5e2]
I replied to those and answered them.

[quote="Sound4":h87nulc2][quote="greg503":h87nulc2][quote="Sound4":h87nulc2]
The person who is starting the argument should be held accountable the most[/quote:h87nulc2]
Which is what you did [/quote:h87nulc2]
Can you elaborate?[/quote:h87nulc2]
By refusing to acknowledge your opponent's response, you "started the argument" over it.

[quote="Sound4":hyfcet3r][quote="Renji Asuka":hyfcet3r][quote="Sound4":hyfcet3r]
Explain[/quote:hyfcet3r]
Its been explained to you in the other thread. Now you're deliberately being stupid.[/quote:hyfcet3r]
I replied to those and answered them.[/quote:hyfcet3r]
And you're still wrong.

I play Rush Duels a lot, and in that format, it's common for people to just speed through their summons and not wait for a response. I think this can be justified for a few reasons:

1. As of right now, the only way to interact with your opponent, aside from battle, is through trap cards with specific conditions. If you know the deck types well enough, it's easy to guess what kind of traps the opponent has. In Master Duels there are so many different ways to interact on your opponent's turn it's nearly required to confirm every play.

2. I trust Rush Duelists more than Master Duelists. The rules are very easy to pick up, and ruling disputes are very rare, so most Rush Duelists have a solid grasp of the mechanics. They are also very accommadating. If I'm a bit slow to respond, Rush Duelists have no problem slowing down and/or fixing the gamestate. And since their is no rated pool, people aren't as motivated to cheat or rush through their plays.

If a rated pool is made for Rush Duels, my views on this might change.

[quote="troglyte":3qb9gw6s]So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.[/quote:3qb9gw6s]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem

[quote="BoomerDuels":33rtuoyx][quote="troglyte":33rtuoyx]So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.[/quote:33rtuoyx]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:33rtuoyx]
Or you know, don't make a play until you are given the okay to do so.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1gb9zbqi][quote="BoomerDuels":1gb9zbqi][quote="troglyte":1gb9zbqi]So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.[/quote:1gb9zbqi]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:1gb9zbqi]
Or you know, don't make a play until you are given the okay to do so.[/quote:1gb9zbqi]

if my opponent waits like 5 seconds then I think that that is consent

[quote="BoomerDuels":2oajy7oj][quote="Renji Asuka":2oajy7oj][quote="BoomerDuels":2oajy7oj]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:2oajy7oj]
Or you know, don't make a play until you are given the okay to do so.[/quote:2oajy7oj]

if my opponent waits like 5 seconds then I think that that is consent[/quote:2oajy7oj]
Doesn't matter what you think, unless you're given the clear go ahead, you do not continue

[quote="BoomerDuels":2jpnrtaw][quote="troglyte":2jpnrtaw]So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.[/quote:2jpnrtaw]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:2jpnrtaw]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.

[quote="troglyte":ljmexbbc][quote="BoomerDuels":ljmexbbc][quote="troglyte":ljmexbbc]So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.[/quote:ljmexbbc]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:ljmexbbc]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:ljmexbbc]
If you are getting distracted then that is your fault you are not paying attention to the duel. You should play DB when you are free with no distractions. If your opponent is not saying anything then that is your problem not the other players you play as normal. You are not waiting 10-15 seconds for a response as that is slowing down the game.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."

[quote="Sound4":1vjv7ezh][quote="troglyte":1vjv7ezh][quote="BoomerDuels":1vjv7ezh]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:1vjv7ezh]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:1vjv7ezh]
If you are getting distracted then that is your fault you are not paying attention to the duel. You should play DB when you are free with no distractions. If your opponent is not saying anything then that is your problem not the other players you play as normal. You are not waiting 10-15 seconds for a response as that is slowing down the game.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:1vjv7ezh]
Since when did Rated have a time limit like tournaments?

[quote="Sound4":1il3ntpq][quote="troglyte":1il3ntpq][quote="BoomerDuels":1il3ntpq]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:1il3ntpq]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:1il3ntpq]
If you are getting distracted then that is your fault you are not paying attention to the duel. You should play DB when you are free with no distractions. If your opponent is not saying anything then that is your problem not the other players you play as normal. You are not waiting 10-15 seconds for a response as that is slowing down the game.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:1il3ntpq]

Read my posts.

[quote="troglyte":1ytzavqk][quote="Sound4":1ytzavqk][quote="troglyte":1ytzavqk]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:1ytzavqk]
If you are getting distracted then that is your fault you are not paying attention to the duel. You should play DB when you are free with no distractions. If your opponent is not saying anything then that is your problem not the other players you play as normal. You are not waiting 10-15 seconds for a response as that is slowing down the game.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:1ytzavqk]

Read my posts.[/quote:1ytzavqk]
The thing is that when multiple people reply to me and you reply to one of my posts. You say stuff which I have already answered. Also I replied to everything you said nice try though.

[quote="Sound4":14yxykzs][quote="troglyte":14yxykzs][quote="Sound4":14yxykzs]
If you are getting distracted then that is your fault you are not paying attention to the duel. You should play DB when you are free with no distractions. If your opponent is not saying anything then that is your problem not the other players you play as normal. You are not waiting 10-15 seconds for a response as that is slowing down the game.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:14yxykzs]

Read my posts.[/quote:14yxykzs]
The thing is that when multiple people reply to me and you reply to one of my posts. You say stuff which I have already answered. Also I replied to everything you said nice try though.[/quote:14yxykzs]
Read his posts.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1nksjqyk][quote="Sound4":1nksjqyk][quote="troglyte":1nksjqyk]

Read my posts.[/quote:1nksjqyk]
The thing is that when multiple people reply to me and you reply to one of my posts. You say stuff which I have already answered. Also I replied to everything you said nice try though.[/quote:1nksjqyk]
Read his posts.[/quote:1nksjqyk]
Reread your own posts, Sound4

[quote="greg503":2hcw6wgi][quote="Renji Asuka":2hcw6wgi][quote="Sound4":2hcw6wgi]
The thing is that when multiple people reply to me and you reply to one of my posts. You say stuff which I have already answered. Also I replied to everything you said nice try though.[/quote:2hcw6wgi]
Read his posts.[/quote:2hcw6wgi]
Reread your own posts, Sound4[/quote:2hcw6wgi]
Why quote me directly? Lmao

[quote="Sound4":14a4y4up][quote="troglyte":14a4y4up][quote="Sound4":14a4y4up]
If you are getting distracted then that is your fault you are not paying attention to the duel. You should play DB when you are free with no distractions. If your opponent is not saying anything then that is your problem not the other players you play as normal. You are not waiting 10-15 seconds for a response as that is slowing down the game.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:14a4y4up]

Read my posts.[/quote:14a4y4up]
The thing is that when multiple people reply to me and you reply to one of my posts. You say stuff which I have already answered. Also I replied to everything you said nice try though.[/quote:14a4y4up]

Read my posts again.

Is this going to be Moonsamurai all over again?

[quote="KTeknis":1vyaxq4b]Is this going to be Moonsamurai all over again?[/quote:1vyaxq4b]
There's always someone

[quote="troglyte":28s0lom2][quote="BoomerDuels":28s0lom2][quote="troglyte":28s0lom2]So you've activated your effect, but your opponent hasn't responded. What do you do?? Here's my step-by-step process for troubleshooting silent players.

Step 1: DO NOT CONTINUE. Silence is NOT consent. There could be any number of reasons why they have not responded yet.

Step 2: Wait a few seconds. Sometimes players have a slow connection or need extra time to read cards. I'd say 15 to 20 seconds would be appropriate.

Step 3: If the opponent has not responded yet, now is the time to reach out to them. A simple "Are you there?" or "Eff ok?" should suffice. This is a great way to initiate communication.

Step 4: If they still have not responded after about a minute or two, it's most likely they are afk or lagging/dc'd. If it's rated, now would be the time to call a judge.[/quote:28s0lom2]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:28s0lom2]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:28s0lom2]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing

[quote="BoomerDuels":3pb968ak][quote="troglyte":3pb968ak][quote="BoomerDuels":3pb968ak]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:3pb968ak]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:3pb968ak]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:3pb968ak]
You do not have a right to play, your opponent has a right to respond to your plays. Because of this, you DO NOT make a play until given the okay to do so. You can and will likely get a game loss otherwise.

Call judge, let them deal with it.

[quote="Renji Asuka":132jeu8h][quote="BoomerDuels":132jeu8h][quote="troglyte":132jeu8h]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:132jeu8h]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:132jeu8h]
You do not have a right to play, your opponent has a right to respond to your plays. Because of this, you DO NOT make a play until given the okay to do so. You can and will likely get a game loss otherwise.

Call judge, let them deal with it.[/quote:132jeu8h]
There is no reason to take 20 seconds to respond.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
It is the opponents responsibility to respond if they are not then you may continue
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."

[quote="KTeknis":6qfjzc64]Is this going to be Moonsamurai all over again?[/quote:6qfjzc64]
I have read that guys previous posts and I am definitely not toxic like that guy. As I have seen flaws in some other people posts which I am questioning.

[quote="Sound4":i7txe9h2][quote="KTeknis":i7txe9h2]Is this going to be Moonsamurai all over again?[/quote:i7txe9h2]
I have read that guys previous posts and I am definitely not toxic like that guy. As I have seen flaws in some other people posts which I am questioning.[/quote:i7txe9h2]
You mean *we* are seeing flaws in *your* posts

[quote="BoomerDuels":3hfixh0r][quote="troglyte":3hfixh0r][quote="BoomerDuels":3hfixh0r]

What are the valid reasons?
Not having read the card or still thinking means that you should just put "Read" or "Think" in chat
And slow connection etc is definitely not my problem[/quote:3hfixh0r]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:3hfixh0r]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:3hfixh0r]

I do agree that both players should be giving basic courtesy. That being said, them not giving you that courtesy doesn't give you the "right" to deny it to them as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[quote="Sound4":1hitonwz][quote="Renji Asuka":1hitonwz][quote="BoomerDuels":1hitonwz]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:1hitonwz]
You do not have a right to play, your opponent has a right to respond to your plays. Because of this, you DO NOT make a play until given the okay to do so. You can and will likely get a game loss otherwise.

Call judge, let them deal with it.[/quote:1hitonwz]
There is no reason to take 20 seconds to respond.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
It is the opponents responsibility to respond if they are not then you may continue
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:1hitonwz]

There is no reason for you to continue if your opponent isn't communicating. Call a judge and let them deal with it. Otherwise you may find yourself on the end of getting a game/match loss.

[quote="troglyte":3p8vwxa9][quote="BoomerDuels":3p8vwxa9][quote="troglyte":3p8vwxa9]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:3p8vwxa9]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:3p8vwxa9]

I do agree that both players should be giving basic courtesy. That being said, them not giving you that courtesy doesn't give you the "right" to deny it to them as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.[/quote:3p8vwxa9]

It isn't "Denying" it to them
It is a p logical assumption that if the opponent does not say they have a response, they dont have 1

[quote="Renji Asuka":23o8zv36][quote="Sound4":23o8zv36][quote="Renji Asuka":23o8zv36]
You do not have a right to play, your opponent has a right to respond to your plays. Because of this, you DO NOT make a play until given the okay to do so. You can and will likely get a game loss otherwise.

Call judge, let them deal with it.[/quote:23o8zv36]
There is no reason to take 20 seconds to respond.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
It is the opponents responsibility to respond if they are not then you may continue
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:23o8zv36]

There is no reason for you to continue if your opponent isn't communicating. Call a judge and let them deal with it. Otherwise you may find yourself on the end of getting a game/match loss.[/quote:23o8zv36]

Because the assumption in any tcg, including YGO - Is that if your opponent does not say they have a response, they don't. It is far more easy to just play rather than wasting both players time by waiting for a response they might not even have

Imagine playing in a combo deck where you need to do 50 moves in 1 turn
Lets imagine adamancipators
If my opponent, as an example, seemed to be okay with both researcher and analyzer - Didn't handtrap the prank-kid package and you now have Supplier and Rocksies on board, as an example - It is a very easy assumption to overlay for gallant granite - Detatch 1 material and wait like 2 seconds for your opponent to discard ash blossom - As an example. Is it too much of a stretch to be playing a deck like adamancipators, where you need to do 50 moves in turn, for you to not waste both players time by waiting several seconds for a response

In most instances - If my opponent is playing such a deck - It will be much easier for them to just... play - I am usually, infact happier, if they do not waste both players time for a response I prolly don't even have

[quote="BoomerDuels":3i22w3me][quote="Renji Asuka":3i22w3me][quote="Sound4":3i22w3me]
There is no reason to take 20 seconds to respond.
https://www.yugioh-card.com/ph/event/ru ... s/?lang=en
It is the opponents responsibility to respond if they are not then you may continue
"Though an average of 3 minutes may be spent on each turn, excessive time should not be spent to allow the tournament to proceed properly. Any duelists caught taking too long (or intentionally stalling for time) may be penalized."[/quote:3i22w3me]

There is no reason for you to continue if your opponent isn't communicating. Call a judge and let them deal with it. Otherwise you may find yourself on the end of getting a game/match loss.[/quote:3i22w3me]

Because the assumption in any tcg, including YGO - Is that if your opponent does not say they have a response, they don't. It is far more easy to just play rather than wasting both players time by waiting for a response they might not even have

Imagine playing in a combo deck where you need to do 50 moves in 1 turn
Lets imagine adamancipators
If my opponent, as an example, seemed to be okay with both researcher and analyzer - Didn't handtrap the prank-kid package and you now have Supplier and Rocksies on board, as an example - It is a very easy assumption to overlay for gallant granite - Detatch 1 material and wait like 2 seconds for your opponent to discard ash blossom - As an example. Is it too much of a stretch to be playing a deck like adamancipators, where you need to do 50 moves in turn, for you to not waste both players time by waiting several seconds for a response

In most instances - If my opponent is playing such a deck - It will be much easier for them to just... play - I am usually, infact happier, if they do not waste both players time for a response I prolly don't even have[/quote:3i22w3me]
Do NOT make assumptions, that only makes an ass out of you. If your opponent won't communicate, CALL A FUCKING JUDGE. DO NOT RISK GETTING A GAME LOSS OR A MATCH LOSS.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1o5aza2p][quote="BoomerDuels":1o5aza2p][quote="Renji Asuka":1o5aza2p]

There is no reason for you to continue if your opponent isn't communicating. Call a judge and let them deal with it. Otherwise you may find yourself on the end of getting a game/match loss.[/quote:1o5aza2p]

Because the assumption in any tcg, including YGO - Is that if your opponent does not say they have a response, they don't. It is far more easy to just play rather than wasting both players time by waiting for a response they might not even have

Imagine playing in a combo deck where you need to do 50 moves in 1 turn
Lets imagine adamancipators
If my opponent, as an example, seemed to be okay with both researcher and analyzer - Didn't handtrap the prank-kid package and you now have Supplier and Rocksies on board, as an example - It is a very easy assumption to overlay for gallant granite - Detatch 1 material and wait like 2 seconds for your opponent to discard ash blossom - As an example. Is it too much of a stretch to be playing a deck like adamancipators, where you need to do 50 moves in turn, for you to not waste both players time by waiting several seconds for a response

In most instances - If my opponent is playing such a deck - It will be much easier for them to just... play - I am usually, infact happier, if they do not waste both players time for a response I prolly don't even have[/quote:1o5aza2p]
Do NOT make assumptions, that only makes an ass out of you. If your opponent won't communicate, CALL A FUCKING JUDGE. DO NOT RISK GETTING A GAME LOSS OR A MATCH LOSS.[/quote:1o5aza2p]


The judge will 100% side with me here unless I waited like 3 seconds
Silence is consent
That is one of the most basic rules of Duelingbook
I expect to enforce it

[quote="BoomerDuels":ekx3w9ky][quote="Renji Asuka":ekx3w9ky][quote="BoomerDuels":ekx3w9ky]

Because the assumption in any tcg, including YGO - Is that if your opponent does not say they have a response, they don't. It is far more easy to just play rather than wasting both players time by waiting for a response they might not even have

Imagine playing in a combo deck where you need to do 50 moves in 1 turn
Lets imagine adamancipators
If my opponent, as an example, seemed to be okay with both researcher and analyzer - Didn't handtrap the prank-kid package and you now have Supplier and Rocksies on board, as an example - It is a very easy assumption to overlay for gallant granite - Detatch 1 material and wait like 2 seconds for your opponent to discard ash blossom - As an example. Is it too much of a stretch to be playing a deck like adamancipators, where you need to do 50 moves in turn, for you to not waste both players time by waiting several seconds for a response

In most instances - If my opponent is playing such a deck - It will be much easier for them to just... play - I am usually, infact happier, if they do not waste both players time for a response I prolly don't even have[/quote:ekx3w9ky]
Do NOT make assumptions, that only makes an ass out of you. If your opponent won't communicate, CALL A FUCKING JUDGE. DO NOT RISK GETTING A GAME LOSS OR A MATCH LOSS.[/quote:ekx3w9ky]


The judge will 100% side with me here unless I waited like 3 seconds
Silence is consent
That is one of the most basic rules of Duelingbook
I expect to enforce it[/quote:ekx3w9ky]
Silence IS NOT CONSENT. I have seen many people get game loss on DN and on DB over this shit. JUST CALL A JUDGE AND WAIT ON THEM DO NOT CONTINUE.

[quote="BoomerDuels":2v9w6hwx][quote="troglyte":2v9w6hwx][quote="BoomerDuels":2v9w6hwx]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:2v9w6hwx]

I do agree that both players should be giving basic courtesy. That being said, them not giving you that courtesy doesn't give you the "right" to deny it to them as well. Two wrongs don't make a right.[/quote:2v9w6hwx]

It isn't "Denying" it to them
It is a p logical assumption that if the opponent does not say they have a response, they dont have 1[/quote:2v9w6hwx]

That's the problem. An assumption, by definition, is based on ZERO concrete evidence. By ASSUMING consent based on their silence (aka NOTHING), you're denying the opponent's ability to choose, which is their right.

None of your arguments are based on concrete evidence. 'Not feeling comfortable with communicating' or 'wanting the game to go faster' are terrible reasons to ignore your opponent's basic rights.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2wkwhbae][quote="BoomerDuels":2wkwhbae][quote="Renji Asuka":2wkwhbae]
Do NOT make assumptions, that only makes an ass out of you. If your opponent won't communicate, CALL A FUCKING JUDGE. DO NOT RISK GETTING A GAME LOSS OR A MATCH LOSS.[/quote:2wkwhbae]


The judge will 100% side with me here unless I waited like 3 seconds
Silence is consent
That is one of the most basic rules of Duelingbook
I expect to enforce it[/quote:2wkwhbae]
Silence IS NOT CONSENT. I have seen many people get game loss on DN and on DB over this shit. JUST CALL A JUDGE AND WAIT ON THEM DO NOT CONTINUE.[/quote:2wkwhbae]
Please can you show the proof of the replays that you claim of?

[quote="BoomerDuels":1pguyffi][quote="Renji Asuka":1pguyffi][quote="BoomerDuels":1pguyffi]

Because the assumption in any tcg, including YGO - Is that if your opponent does not say they have a response, they don't. It is far more easy to just play rather than wasting both players time by waiting for a response they might not even have

Imagine playing in a combo deck where you need to do 50 moves in 1 turn
Lets imagine adamancipators
If my opponent, as an example, seemed to be okay with both researcher and analyzer - Didn't handtrap the prank-kid package and you now have Supplier and Rocksies on board, as an example - It is a very easy assumption to overlay for gallant granite - Detatch 1 material and wait like 2 seconds for your opponent to discard ash blossom - As an example. Is it too much of a stretch to be playing a deck like adamancipators, where you need to do 50 moves in turn, for you to not waste both players time by waiting several seconds for a response

In most instances - If my opponent is playing such a deck - It will be much easier for them to just... play - I am usually, infact happier, if they do not waste both players time for a response I prolly don't even have[/quote:1pguyffi]
Do NOT make assumptions, that only makes an ass out of you. If your opponent won't communicate, CALL A FUCKING JUDGE. DO NOT RISK GETTING A GAME LOSS OR A MATCH LOSS.[/quote:1pguyffi]


The judge will 100% side with me here unless I waited like 3 seconds
Silence is consent
That is one of the most basic rules of Duelingbook
I expect to enforce it[/quote:1pguyffi]
Agreed

[quote="Sound4":1af0t6n7][quote="Renji Asuka":1af0t6n7][quote="BoomerDuels":1af0t6n7]


The judge will 100% side with me here unless I waited like 3 seconds
Silence is consent
That is one of the most basic rules of Duelingbook
I expect to enforce it[/quote:1af0t6n7]
Silence IS NOT CONSENT. I have seen many people get game loss on DN and on DB over this shit. JUST CALL A JUDGE AND WAIT ON THEM DO NOT CONTINUE.[/quote:1af0t6n7]
Please can you show the proof of the replays that you claim of?[/quote:1af0t6n7]
You do realize DN never had a replay feature right? Also I can't pull up replays of other players that did not involve me. Well I can, but it's way too much work.

[quote="Sound4":3y0ngpch][quote="BoomerDuels":3y0ngpch][quote="Renji Asuka":3y0ngpch]
Do NOT make assumptions, that only makes an ass out of you. If your opponent won't communicate, CALL A FUCKING JUDGE. DO NOT RISK GETTING A GAME LOSS OR A MATCH LOSS.[/quote:3y0ngpch]


The judge will 100% side with me here unless I waited like 3 seconds
Silence is consent
That is one of the most basic rules of Duelingbook
I expect to enforce it[/quote:3y0ngpch]
Agreed[/quote:3y0ngpch]
Wasn't one of Farfa's freezes over "iz too late, i clik"

[quote="Renji Asuka":gnudsdk5][quote="Sound4":gnudsdk5][quote="Renji Asuka":gnudsdk5]
Silence IS NOT CONSENT. I have seen many people get game loss on DN and on DB over this shit. JUST CALL A JUDGE AND WAIT ON THEM DO NOT CONTINUE.[/quote:gnudsdk5]
Please can you show the proof of the replays that you claim of?[/quote:gnudsdk5]
You do realize DN never had a replay feature right? Also I can't pull up replays of other players that did not involve me. Well I can, but it's way too much work.[/quote:gnudsdk5]
So the replays you are talking about was from DN. You do know that the judging system hland punishments has changed a lot since back then? If you can not provide proof of your claim then it comes off that you are lying.

[quote="Sound4":313vblpm][quote="Renji Asuka":313vblpm][quote="Sound4":313vblpm]
Please can you show the proof of the replays that you claim of?[/quote:313vblpm]
You do realize DN never had a replay feature right? Also I can't pull up replays of other players that did not involve me. Well I can, but it's way too much work.[/quote:313vblpm]
So the replays you are talking about was from DN. You do know that the judging system hland punishments has changed a lot since back then? If you can not provide proof of your claim then it comes off that you are lying.[/quote:313vblpm]
DN never had a replay feature.

DB didn't get a replay feature til about 2 years into its life span.

You also cannot easily go through other player's replays (Only way I know how is to change the URL and I'm not going to go through millions of combinations to find those replays.)

Stop being a moron.

[quote="Renji Asuka":15k0qyuj][quote="Sound4":15k0qyuj][quote="Renji Asuka":15k0qyuj]
You do realize DN never had a replay feature right? Also I can't pull up replays of other players that did not involve me. Well I can, but it's way too much work.[/quote:15k0qyuj]
So the replays you are talking about was from DN. You do know that the judging system hland punishments has changed a lot since back then? If you can not provide proof of your claim then it comes off that you are lying.[/quote:15k0qyuj]
DN never had a replay feature.

DB didn't get a replay feature til about 2 years into its life span.

You also cannot easily go through other player's replays (Only way I know how is to change the URL and I'm not going to go through millions of combinations to find those replays.)

Stop being a moron.[/quote:15k0qyuj]
If it's rated, YGOScope exists, but that's about it. You do NOT get to decide how much time is enough time, only the judge, so call for AFK instead if you want to have the higher win %

[quote="Renji Asuka":1kfsnj3f][quote="Sound4":1kfsnj3f][quote="Renji Asuka":1kfsnj3f]
You do realize DN never had a replay feature right? Also I can't pull up replays of other players that did not involve me. Well I can, but it's way too much work.[/quote:1kfsnj3f]
So the replays you are talking about was from DN. You do know that the judging system hland punishments has changed a lot since back then? If you can not provide proof of your claim then it comes off that you are lying.[/quote:1kfsnj3f]
DN never had a replay feature.

DB didn't get a replay feature til about 2 years into its life span.

You also cannot easily go through other player's replays (Only way I know how is to change the URL and I'm not going to go through millions of combinations to find those replays.)

Stop being a moron.[/quote:1kfsnj3f]
I am aware of that but it still doesn't change the fact that you have no proof of your claim. Plus if the people you talk of did get a game loss it would have ended the duel and you can look their at their replay and save it some where.

[quote="Sound4":1u5ecel7][quote="Renji Asuka":1u5ecel7][quote="Sound4":1u5ecel7]
So the replays you are talking about was from DN. You do know that the judging system hland punishments has changed a lot since back then? If you can not provide proof of your claim then it comes off that you are lying.[/quote:1u5ecel7]
DN never had a replay feature.

DB didn't get a replay feature til about 2 years into its life span.

You also cannot easily go through other player's replays (Only way I know how is to change the URL and I'm not going to go through millions of combinations to find those replays.)

Stop being a moron.[/quote:1u5ecel7]
I am aware of that but it still doesn't change the fact that you have no proof of your claim. Plus if the people you talk of did get a game loss it would have ended the duel and you can look their at their replay and save it some where.[/quote:1u5ecel7]
And your claims have had dismissed proof, so you're not in a better boat yourself.

[quote="greg503":dy6vwssj][quote="Sound4":dy6vwssj][quote="Renji Asuka":dy6vwssj]
DN never had a replay feature.

DB didn't get a replay feature til about 2 years into its life span.

You also cannot easily go through other player's replays (Only way I know how is to change the URL and I'm not going to go through millions of combinations to find those replays.)

Stop being a moron.[/quote:dy6vwssj]
I am aware of that but it still doesn't change the fact that you have no proof of your claim. Plus if the people you talk of did get a game loss it would have ended the duel and you can look their at their replay and save it some where.[/quote:dy6vwssj]
And your claims have had dismissed proof, so you're not in a better boat yourself.[/quote:dy6vwssj]
I literally do have proof check in the other thread

[quote="Sound4":m51q8gsa][quote="greg503":m51q8gsa][quote="Sound4":m51q8gsa]
I am aware of that but it still doesn't change the fact that you have no proof of your claim. Plus if the people you talk of did get a game loss it would have ended the duel and you can look their at their replay and save it some where.[/quote:m51q8gsa]
And your claims have had dismissed proof, so you're not in a better boat yourself.[/quote:m51q8gsa]
I literally do have proof check in the other thread[/quote:m51q8gsa]
Invalid proof, but yes

[quote="greg503":rfj3lei0][quote="Sound4":rfj3lei0][quote="greg503":rfj3lei0]
And your claims have had dismissed proof, so you're not in a better boat yourself.[/quote:rfj3lei0]
I literally do have proof check in the other thread[/quote:rfj3lei0]
Invalid proof, but yes[/quote:rfj3lei0]
You couldn't debunk any of my points.

[quote="Sound4":3pq78m82][quote="greg503":3pq78m82][quote="Sound4":3pq78m82]
I literally do have proof check in the other thread[/quote:3pq78m82]
Invalid proof, but yes[/quote:3pq78m82]
You couldn't debunk any of my points.[/quote:3pq78m82]
Just because you refuse to believe you're in the wrong doesn't mean you weren't debunked.

[quote="Sound4":17yrxoxy][quote="greg503":17yrxoxy][quote="Sound4":17yrxoxy]
I literally do have proof check in the other thread[/quote:17yrxoxy]
Invalid proof, but yes[/quote:17yrxoxy]
You couldn't debunk any of my points.[/quote:17yrxoxy]
Yes, but the judges could, and did.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1eof4z15][quote="Sound4":1eof4z15][quote="greg503":1eof4z15]
Invalid proof, but yes[/quote:1eof4z15]
You couldn't debunk any of my points.[/quote:1eof4z15]
Just because you refuse to believe you're in the wrong doesn't mean you weren't debunked.[/quote:1eof4z15]
I replied to all of your posts.

[quote="greg503":1l5jssfw][quote="Sound4":1l5jssfw][quote="greg503":1l5jssfw]
Invalid proof, but yes[/quote:1l5jssfw]
You couldn't debunk any of my points.[/quote:1l5jssfw]
Yes, but the judges could, and did.[/quote:1l5jssfw]
I also replied to them as well.

Replying is not, in and of itself, a valid argument.

[quote="greg503":2c3n47f5]Replying is not, in and of itself, a valid argument.[/quote:2c3n47f5]
I had an answer to everything you said.

[quote="Sound4":39u15x6i][quote="Renji Asuka":39u15x6i][quote="Sound4":39u15x6i]
You couldn't debunk any of my points.[/quote:39u15x6i]
Just because you refuse to believe you're in the wrong doesn't mean you weren't debunked.[/quote:39u15x6i]
I replied to all of your posts.[/quote:39u15x6i]
That isn't an argument.

You are in the wrong here. Even judges told you that you were wrong.

Replying is not an argument. You just go around in fucking circles because you won't accept that "Silence is not consent"

Also try telling that to any woman who never said yes or no to sex. See how far that gets you.

[quote="Renji Asuka":34na3tkj][quote="Sound4":34na3tkj][quote="Renji Asuka":34na3tkj]
Just because you refuse to believe you're in the wrong doesn't mean you weren't debunked.[/quote:34na3tkj]
I replied to all of your posts.[/quote:34na3tkj]
That isn't an argument.

You are in the wrong here. Even judges told you that you were wrong.

Replying is not an argument. You just go around in fucking circles because you won't accept that "Silence is not consent"

Also try telling that to any woman who never said yes or no to sex. See how far that gets you.[/quote:34na3tkj]
It means I had a reply to everything you said. I provided links and evidence to support my claims yet you couldn't.

[quote="Sound4":4tot7nnb][quote="Renji Asuka":4tot7nnb][quote="Sound4":4tot7nnb]
I replied to all of your posts.[/quote:4tot7nnb]
That isn't an argument.

You are in the wrong here. Even judges told you that you were wrong.

Replying is not an argument. You just go around in fucking circles because you won't accept that "Silence is not consent"

Also try telling that to any woman who never said yes or no to sex. See how far that gets you.[/quote:4tot7nnb]
It means I had a reply to everything you said. I provided links and evidence to support my claims yet you couldn't.[/quote:4tot7nnb]
That's because the evidence that supports our claims and invalidates your evidence is logic, you are trying to say that DB rated is equivalent to a tournament and therefore your evidence is valid. But even staff like Genex agree that rated is not a tournament, so it's pointless.

[quote="greg503":ytqou9dj][quote="Sound4":ytqou9dj][quote="Renji Asuka":ytqou9dj]
That isn't an argument.

You are in the wrong here. Even judges told you that you were wrong.

Replying is not an argument. You just go around in fucking circles because you won't accept that "Silence is not consent"

Also try telling that to any woman who never said yes or no to sex. See how far that gets you.[/quote:ytqou9dj]
It means I had a reply to everything you said. I provided links and evidence to support my claims yet you couldn't.[/quote:ytqou9dj]
That's because the evidence that supports our claims and invalidates your evidence is logic, you are trying to say that DB rated is equivalent to a tournament and therefore your evidence is valid. But even staff like Genex agree that rated is not a tournament, so it's pointless.[/quote:ytqou9dj]
I never said DB rated is equivalent to a tournament. I am saying it is appropriate to use tournament rules as DB tries to copy irl as much as possible.

[quote="Sound4":2vs1klbt][quote="greg503":2vs1klbt][quote="Sound4":2vs1klbt]
It means I had a reply to everything you said. I provided links and evidence to support my claims yet you couldn't.[/quote:2vs1klbt]
That's because the evidence that supports our claims and invalidates your evidence is logic, you are trying to say that DB rated is equivalent to a tournament and therefore your evidence is valid. But even staff like Genex agree that rated is not a tournament, so it's pointless.[/quote:2vs1klbt]
I never said DB rated is equivalent to a tournament. I am saying it is appropriate to use tournament rules as DB tries to copy irl as much as possible.[/quote:2vs1klbt]
You basically have when you're bringing up tournament rules. And even then they weren't concrete. Which I already broke down on how. Also playing irl doesn't mean it's always in a tournament setting.

[quote="Sound4":3sllgtqc][quote="greg503":3sllgtqc][quote="Sound4":3sllgtqc]
It means I had a reply to everything you said. I provided links and evidence to support my claims yet you couldn't.[/quote:3sllgtqc]
That's because the evidence that supports our claims and invalidates your evidence is logic, you are trying to say that DB rated is equivalent to a tournament and therefore your evidence is valid. But even staff like Genex agree that rated is not a tournament, so it's pointless.[/quote:3sllgtqc]
I never said DB rated is equivalent to a tournament. I am saying it is appropriate to use tournament rules as DB tries to copy irl as much as possible.[/quote:3sllgtqc]
And that has been debated. We aren't using those as a guideline for DB rated, so stop trying.

As a side note, here are some reasons where a response wouldn't be needed.
1. When you have confirmed that the opponent doesn't have any responses
2. If your opponent has nothing set on the field nor cards in their hand.
3. If specific effects prevent the opponent from responding, such as Accesscode Talker.

Basically, it would be rude to ask for a response in these scenarios.

[quote="troglyte":btyf1i9a]As a side note, here are some reasons where a response wouldn't be needed.
1. When you have confirmed that the opponent doesn't have any responses
2. If your opponent has nothing set on the field nor cards in their hand.
3. If specific effects prevent the opponent from responding, such as Accesscode Talker.

Basically, it would be rude to ask for a response in these scenarios.[/quote:btyf1i9a]
Also, if you're using a third party app to voice chat with your opponent then you don't need to type as much (see Cimo's recent series')

[quote="Renji Asuka":wwikqyhp][quote="Sound4":wwikqyhp][quote="greg503":wwikqyhp]
That's because the evidence that supports our claims and invalidates your evidence is logic, you are trying to say that DB rated is equivalent to a tournament and therefore your evidence is valid. But even staff like Genex agree that rated is not a tournament, so it's pointless.[/quote:wwikqyhp]
I never said DB rated is equivalent to a tournament. I am saying it is appropriate to use tournament rules as DB tries to copy irl as much as possible.[/quote:wwikqyhp]
You basically have when you're bringing up tournament rules. And even then they weren't concrete. Which I already broke down on how. Also playing irl doesn't mean it's always in a tournament setting.[/quote:wwikqyhp]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.

[quote="Sound4":h2sl37kp][quote="Renji Asuka":h2sl37kp][quote="Sound4":h2sl37kp]
I never said DB rated is equivalent to a tournament. I am saying it is appropriate to use tournament rules as DB tries to copy irl as much as possible.[/quote:h2sl37kp]
You basically have when you're bringing up tournament rules. And even then they weren't concrete. Which I already broke down on how. Also playing irl doesn't mean it's always in a tournament setting.[/quote:h2sl37kp]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.[/quote:h2sl37kp]

A great example of behavior not tolerated at the tournament level is actively preventing your opponent from responding.

[quote="Sound4":2aqeoxh9][quote="Renji Asuka":2aqeoxh9][quote="Sound4":2aqeoxh9]
I never said DB rated is equivalent to a tournament. I am saying it is appropriate to use tournament rules as DB tries to copy irl as much as possible.[/quote:2aqeoxh9]
You basically have when you're bringing up tournament rules. And even then they weren't concrete. Which I already broke down on how. Also playing irl doesn't mean it's always in a tournament setting.[/quote:2aqeoxh9]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.[/quote:2aqeoxh9]
No it isn't "appropriate to use tournament rules as Tournaments take a lot of amount of time and needs to be finished at a reasonable pace.

Playing in Rated is not the same as a tournament.

You do not have an argument.

[quote="troglyte":3mog3f6b][quote="Sound4":3mog3f6b][quote="Renji Asuka":3mog3f6b]
You basically have when you're bringing up tournament rules. And even then they weren't concrete. Which I already broke down on how. Also playing irl doesn't mean it's always in a tournament setting.[/quote:3mog3f6b]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.[/quote:3mog3f6b]

A great example of behavior not tolerated at the tournament level is actively preventing your opponent from responding.[/quote:3mog3f6b]
Read my responses on the other threads.

[quote="Renji Asuka":36pxsq6u][quote="Sound4":36pxsq6u][quote="Renji Asuka":36pxsq6u]
You basically have when you're bringing up tournament rules. And even then they weren't concrete. Which I already broke down on how. Also playing irl doesn't mean it's always in a tournament setting.[/quote:36pxsq6u]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.[/quote:36pxsq6u]
No it isn't "appropriate to use tournament rules as Tournaments take a lot of amount of time and needs to be finished at a reasonable pace.

Playing in Rated is not the same as a tournament.

You do not have an argument.[/quote:36pxsq6u]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.

[quote="Sound4":17pgvkse][quote="troglyte":17pgvkse][quote="Sound4":17pgvkse]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.[/quote:17pgvkse]

A great example of behavior not tolerated at the tournament level is actively preventing your opponent from responding.[/quote:17pgvkse]
Read my responses on the other threads.[/quote:17pgvkse]

Read my responses in other threads.

[quote="Sound4":33mog31o][quote="Renji Asuka":33mog31o][quote="Sound4":33mog31o]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules especially when behaviour that is not tolerated on DB is taken seriously like in a tournament.[/quote:33mog31o]
No it isn't "appropriate to use tournament rules as Tournaments take a lot of amount of time and needs to be finished at a reasonable pace.

Playing in Rated is not the same as a tournament.

You do not have an argument.[/quote:33mog31o]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:33mog31o]
No, YOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.

[quote="Renji Asuka":261lsj8w][quote="Sound4":261lsj8w][quote="Renji Asuka":261lsj8w]
No it isn't "appropriate to use tournament rules as Tournaments take a lot of amount of time and needs to be finished at a reasonable pace.

Playing in Rated is not the same as a tournament.

You do not have an argument.[/quote:261lsj8w]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:261lsj8w]
No, hYOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:261lsj8w]
You have seen in the duels I provided that I always wait a few seconds giving them time. I have already said that if your opponent isn't saying anything then the logical conclusion they have no response.

[quote="Sound4":noakvmpe][quote="Renji Asuka":noakvmpe][quote="Sound4":noakvmpe]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:noakvmpe]
No, hYOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:noakvmpe]
You have seen in the duels I provided that I always wait a few seconds giving them time. I have already said that if your opponent isn't saying anything then the logical conclusion they have no response.[/quote:noakvmpe]
Yes, but if they did, then you are in the wrong

[quote="Sound4":3lw1vzer][quote="Renji Asuka":3lw1vzer][quote="Sound4":3lw1vzer]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:3lw1vzer]
No, hYOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:3lw1vzer]
You have seen in the duels I provided that I always wait a few seconds giving them time. I have already said that if your opponent isn't saying anything then the logical conclusion they have no response.[/quote:3lw1vzer]
"waiting a few seconds" isn't an excuse ASK YOUR OPPONENT OPEN THE LINE OF COMMUNICATION IF THEY STILL WON'T THAT IS WHEN YOU CALL A FUCKING JUDGE.

I had a duel back during DN, (I was playing Exodia with the new support in rated and he was playing Quasar) after I was telling him I had a response he had ignored me, he kept making plays. I called a judge and got a free win. His excuse "Lag" and "Didn't see the chat", despite us talking earlier prior and him using the chat that duel as he was announcing his plays.

[quote="Renji Asuka":31hag9ub][quote="Sound4":31hag9ub][quote="Renji Asuka":31hag9ub]
No it isn't "appropriate to use tournament rules as Tournaments take a lot of amount of time and needs to be finished at a reasonable pace.

Playing in Rated is not the same as a tournament.

You do not have an argument.[/quote:31hag9ub]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:31hag9ub]
No, YOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:31hag9ub]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.

[quote="Sound4":r068uxcu][quote="Renji Asuka":r068uxcu][quote="Sound4":r068uxcu]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:r068uxcu]
No, YOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:r068uxcu]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:r068uxcu]

Did you use DN? If so, then you would know that DB is essentially a rebooted DN, making it far more relevant as an example than irl tournament rules, regardless of how much the rules have changed.

It's been mentioned by everyone already (read their posts) but the link you provided doesn't prove the point you want to make. Yes, being slow in your responses can be considered slow play depending on the context (no one is disputing this), but that doesn't justify you moving ahead of your opponent without their consent. You need to be able to prove that they consent or are afk, and that is what my step-by-step process is trying to achieve. It allows you to make a logical conclusion based on observed facts and behaviors.

Inferences are always better than assumptions.

[quote="Sound4":1f7xgdkr][quote="Renji Asuka":1f7xgdkr][quote="Sound4":1f7xgdkr]
You are not reading properly and saying things I have not even said.[/quote:1f7xgdkr]
No, YOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:1f7xgdkr]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:1f7xgdkr]
how about STOP PUSHING THAT SILENCE IS CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT, WRONG.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1hywg6wm][quote="Sound4":1hywg6wm][quote="Renji Asuka":1hywg6wm]
No, YOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:1hywg6wm]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:1hywg6wm]
how about STOP PUSHING THAT SILENCE IS CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT, WRONG.[/quote:1hywg6wm]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.

[quote="Sound4":2kza1nm8][quote="Renji Asuka":2kza1nm8][quote="Sound4":2kza1nm8]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:2kza1nm8]
how about STOP PUSHING THAT SILENCE IS CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT, WRONG.[/quote:2kza1nm8]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.[/quote:2kza1nm8]

Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.

[quote="Sound4":29kqpmfy][quote="Renji Asuka":29kqpmfy][quote="Sound4":29kqpmfy]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:29kqpmfy]
how about STOP PUSHING THAT SILENCE IS CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT, WRONG.[/quote:29kqpmfy]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.[/quote:29kqpmfy]
None of it actually supports what you're stating

[quote="troglyte":1cp1y8wd][quote="Sound4":1cp1y8wd][quote="Renji Asuka":1cp1y8wd]
how about STOP PUSHING THAT SILENCE IS CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT, WRONG.[/quote:1cp1y8wd]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.[/quote:1cp1y8wd]

Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:1cp1y8wd]
I was going to reply to your post I wanted to deal with renji Asuka first.

[quote="Sound4":1qmwktjd][quote="troglyte":1qmwktjd][quote="Sound4":1qmwktjd]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.[/quote:1qmwktjd]

Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:1qmwktjd]
I was going to reply to your post I wanted to deal with renji Asuka first.[/quote:1qmwktjd]

I've waited an entire day for your reply. The fact that you haven't replied yet must mean that you don't have an argument. Therefore, you agree with me. And if you try to rebuff it now, you're just lying. (yes, this is incredibly stupid and illogical, that is the point)

So tell me, Ingeniero, how does it feel to have your own "logic" used against you? Oh, don't bother, I already got your telepathic message. The silence was deafening.

[quote="troglyte":236j6mtx][quote="Sound4":236j6mtx][quote="Renji Asuka":236j6mtx]
No, YOU are not reading any posts. Many times we have told you TO ASK YOUR OPPONENT IF ITS OKAY TO PROCEED IF THEY WON'T RESPOND LET A JUDGE HANDLE IT.

The fact you are arguing against it and keep saying "Silence is consent" (which is disgusting) shows YOU ARE WANTING TO IGNORE THEIR RESPONSE WINDOW.[/quote:236j6mtx]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:236j6mtx]

Did you use DN? If so, then you would know that DB is essentially a rebooted DN, making it far more relevant as an example than irl tournament rules, regardless of how much the rules have changed.

It's been mentioned by everyone already (read their posts) but the link you provided doesn't prove the point you want to make. Yes, being slow in your responses can be considered slow play depending on the context (no one is disputing this), but that doesn't justify you moving ahead of your opponent without their consent. You need to be able to prove that they consent or are afk, and that is what my step-by-step process is trying to achieve. It allows you to make a logical conclusion based on observed facts and behaviors.

Inferences are always better than assumptions.[/quote:236j6mtx]
DB is a bit more faster than DNbut my point was never comparing the two. The point was that Renji Asuka keeps using his apparently DB duels as proof as silence is not consent. As I said in the earlier in the other thread it is a logical conclusion. If your opponent had a response why did not they not say anything? The most logical conclusion is that they had no response. No other reason on why.

[quote="troglyte":1i5r7q9q][quote="Sound4":1i5r7q9q][quote="Renji Asuka":1i5r7q9q]
how about STOP PUSHING THAT SILENCE IS CONSENT WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT, WRONG.[/quote:1i5r7q9q]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.[/quote:1i5r7q9q]

Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:1i5r7q9q]
These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.

[quote="Sound4":39hgkmqi][quote="troglyte":39hgkmqi][quote="Sound4":39hgkmqi]
I have provided links to support my claim even that guy called Boomer duels even agreed that silence is consent in yugioh.[/quote:39hgkmqi]

Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:39hgkmqi]
These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:39hgkmqi]
Exactly, you're saying it's a logical conclusion, but it is an assumption

[quote="greg503":2tf0msqm][quote="Sound4":2tf0msqm][quote="troglyte":2tf0msqm]

Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:2tf0msqm]
These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:2tf0msqm]
Exactly, you're saying it's a logical conclusion, but it is an assumption[/quote:2tf0msqm]
Not really. Why didn't the opponent say anything if they had a response? Simple they didn't have one.

[quote="Sound4":3g796syw][quote="greg503":3g796syw][quote="Sound4":3g796syw]
These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:3g796syw]
Exactly, you're saying it's a logical conclusion, but it is an assumption[/quote:3g796syw]
Not really. Why didn't the opponent say anything if they had a response? Simple they didn't have one.[/quote:3g796syw]

Ingeniero, that's an assumption. Assumptions like this are not logical, as I have already shown, and you have already admitted to.

Even Boomer called it an assumption.

[quote="Sound4":39agpwto][quote="troglyte":39agpwto][quote="Sound4":39agpwto]
Stop using DN duels to make a point the rules and game have a lot since back then.[/quote:39agpwto]

Did you use DN? If so, then you would know that DB is essentially a rebooted DN, making it far more relevant as an example than irl tournament rules, regardless of how much the rules have changed.

It's been mentioned by everyone already (read their posts) but the link you provided doesn't prove the point you want to make. Yes, being slow in your responses can be considered slow play depending on the context (no one is disputing this), but that doesn't justify you moving ahead of your opponent without their consent. You need to be able to prove that they consent or are afk, and that is what my step-by-step process is trying to achieve. It allows you to make a logical conclusion based on observed facts and behaviors.

Inferences are always better than assumptions.[/quote:39agpwto]
DB is a bit more faster than DNbut my point was never comparing the two. The point was that Renji Asuka keeps using his apparently DB duels as proof as silence is not consent. As I said in the earlier in the other thread it is a logical conclusion. If your opponent had a response why did not they not say anything? The most logical conclusion is that they had no response. No other reason on why.[/quote:39agpwto]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.

[quote="troglyte":2krcnu4b][quote="Sound4":2krcnu4b][quote="greg503":2krcnu4b]
Exactly, you're saying it's a logical conclusion, but it is an assumption[/quote:2krcnu4b]
Not really. Why didn't the opponent say anything if they had a response? Simple they didn't have one.[/quote:2krcnu4b]

Ingeniero, that's an assumption. Assumptions like this are not logical, as I have already shown, and you have already admitted to.

Even Boomer called it an assumption.[/quote:2krcnu4b]
What do you mean I admitted to? It is a logical conclusion. For example, if the climate gets drier then the logical conclusion is that even more drought will occur. This is what I am talking about logical conclusions.

[quote="Sound4":15l4ahp3][quote="troglyte":15l4ahp3][quote="Sound4":15l4ahp3]
Not really. Why didn't the opponent say anything if they had a response? Simple they didn't have one.[/quote:15l4ahp3]

Ingeniero, that's an assumption. Assumptions like this are not logical, as I have already shown, and you have already admitted to.

Even Boomer called it an assumption.[/quote:15l4ahp3]
What do you mean I admitted to? It is a logical conclusion. For example, if the climate gets drier then the logical conclusion is that even more drought will occur. This is what I am talking about logical conclusions.[/quote:15l4ahp3]

If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I used the exact. SAME. LOGIC. that you're using. I waited an entire day for your reply, so it's a logical conclusion that you have no argument in response, so if you say anything now, the only logical conclusion is that you're lying, there's no other possible explanation. This is the exact same reasoning you're using to justify you're argument, and you said it was illogical. You're a hypocrite, you're not willing to apply your own "logic" against yourself because it doesn't benefit you. Read your own posts, Ingeniero, you played yourself.
[quote="troglyte":15l4ahp3]Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:15l4ahp3]

[quote="troglyte":15l4ahp3]I've waited an entire day for your reply. The fact that you haven't replied yet must mean that you don't have an argument. Therefore, you agree with me. And if you try to rebuff it now, you're just lying. (yes, this is incredibly stupid and illogical, that is the point)

So tell me, Ingeniero, how does it feel to have your own "logic" used against you? Oh, don't bother, I already got your telepathic message. The silence was deafening.[/quote:15l4ahp3]
[quote="Sound4":15l4ahp3]These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:15l4ahp3]

[quote="Renji Asuka":2bba5wyn][quote="Sound4":2bba5wyn][quote="troglyte":2bba5wyn]

Did you use DN? If so, then you would know that DB is essentially a rebooted DN, making it far more relevant as an example than irl tournament rules, regardless of how much the rules have changed.

It's been mentioned by everyone already (read their posts) but the link you provided doesn't prove the point you want to make. Yes, being slow in your responses can be considered slow play depending on the context (no one is disputing this), but that doesn't justify you moving ahead of your opponent without their consent. You need to be able to prove that they consent or are afk, and that is what my step-by-step process is trying to achieve. It allows you to make a logical conclusion based on observed facts and behaviors.

Inferences are always better than assumptions.[/quote:2bba5wyn]
DB is a bit more faster than DNbut my point was never comparing the two. The point was that Renji Asuka keeps using his apparently DB duels as proof as silence is not consent. As I said in the earlier in the other thread it is a logical conclusion. If your opponent had a response why did not they not say anything? The most logical conclusion is that they had no response. No other reason on why.[/quote:2bba5wyn]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.[/quote:2bba5wyn]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.

[quote="Sound4":4jotig57][quote="Renji Asuka":4jotig57][quote="Sound4":4jotig57]
DB is a bit more faster than DNbut my point was never comparing the two. The point was that Renji Asuka keeps using his apparently DB duels as proof as silence is not consent. As I said in the earlier in the other thread it is a logical conclusion. If your opponent had a response why did not they not say anything? The most logical conclusion is that they had no response. No other reason on why.[/quote:4jotig57]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.[/quote:4jotig57]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:4jotig57]
Genexwrecker confirmed you are the alt of Ingeniero, they stated such in a thread. They don't have to provide any evidence as they have the information.

Also I'm glad you agree that you should get perma beginner.

[quote="Sound4":2m3y8sm8][quote="Renji Asuka":2m3y8sm8][quote="Sound4":2m3y8sm8]
DB is a bit more faster than DNbut my point was never comparing the two. The point was that Renji Asuka keeps using his apparently DB duels as proof as silence is not consent. As I said in the earlier in the other thread it is a logical conclusion. If your opponent had a response why did not they not say anything? The most logical conclusion is that they had no response. No other reason on why.[/quote:2m3y8sm8]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.[/quote:2m3y8sm8]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:2m3y8sm8]

"Read my posts" isn't a valid argument. You've already admitted that your reasoning isn't logical. Repeating yourself over and over won't make you less of a liar, hypocrite, and troll.

[quote="troglyte":2ynihpdy][quote="Sound4":2ynihpdy][quote="Renji Asuka":2ynihpdy]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.[/quote:2ynihpdy]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:2ynihpdy]

"Read my posts" isn't a valid argument. You've already admitted that your reasoning isn't logical. Repeating yourself over and over won't make you less of a liar, hypocrite, and troll.[/quote:2ynihpdy]
Show the post where I admitted to?

[quote="Sound4":1lr86azu][quote="troglyte":1lr86azu][quote="Sound4":1lr86azu]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:1lr86azu]

"Read my posts" isn't a valid argument. You've already admitted that your reasoning isn't logical. Repeating yourself over and over won't make you less of a liar, hypocrite, and troll.[/quote:1lr86azu]
Show the post where I admitted to?[/quote:1lr86azu]
So that we can keep playing forum tennis, no thanks...

[quote="Sound4":zltc7xgo][quote="troglyte":zltc7xgo][quote="Sound4":zltc7xgo]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:zltc7xgo]

"Read my posts" isn't a valid argument. You've already admitted that your reasoning isn't logical. Repeating yourself over and over won't make you less of a liar, hypocrite, and troll.[/quote:zltc7xgo]
Show the post where I admitted to?[/quote:zltc7xgo]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.

I'll often wait and see, then ask the opponent if the eff's okay again after say 10 seconds, or even just check to see if they have responded even when resolving a card that causes me to look into the deck.

Ik I'm someone who likes to analyze every situation and think through things, even when I do have a response, even irl so I offer the same courtesy to my opponents.

[quote="troglyte":2xp6ry29][quote="Sound4":2xp6ry29][quote="troglyte":2xp6ry29]

"Read my posts" isn't a valid argument. You've already admitted that your reasoning isn't logical. Repeating yourself over and over won't make you less of a liar, hypocrite, and troll.[/quote:2xp6ry29]
Show the post where I admitted to?[/quote:2xp6ry29]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.[/quote:2xp6ry29]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day

[quote="Sound4":36y4nnk5][quote="troglyte":36y4nnk5][quote="Sound4":36y4nnk5]
Show the post where I admitted to?[/quote:36y4nnk5]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.[/quote:36y4nnk5]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:36y4nnk5]
You been lying. You've lied about every situation you been in on the forum.

[quote="Renji Asuka":jmcn3664][quote="Sound4":jmcn3664][quote="troglyte":jmcn3664]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.[/quote:jmcn3664]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:jmcn3664]
You been lying. You've lied about every situation you been in on the forum.[/quote:jmcn3664]
I have provided links to support my claims unlike you who has not provided anything to support your claims.

[quote="Sound4":1t3tsy6g][quote="Renji Asuka":1t3tsy6g][quote="Sound4":1t3tsy6g]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:1t3tsy6g]
You been lying. You've lied about every situation you been in on the forum.[/quote:1t3tsy6g]
I have provided links to support my claims unlike you who has not provided anything to support your claims.[/quote:1t3tsy6g]
No you have not. A link to how things work in a tournament isn't anything that supports your argument. We already been through this.

We also know you have lied in several threads.

[quote="Sound4":2ztc86w0][quote="Renji Asuka":2ztc86w0][quote="Sound4":2ztc86w0]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:2ztc86w0]
You been lying. You've lied about every situation you been in on the forum.[/quote:2ztc86w0]
I have provided links to support my claims unlike you who has not provided anything to support your claims.[/quote:2ztc86w0]
We have provided logic and honesty, the most important things in an argument

[quote="troglyte":28s4f63q][quote="Sound4":28s4f63q][quote="troglyte":28s4f63q]

Ingeniero, that's an assumption. Assumptions like this are not logical, as I have already shown, and you have already admitted to.

Even Boomer called it an assumption.[/quote:28s4f63q]
What do you mean I admitted to? It is a logical conclusion. For example, if the climate gets drier then the logical conclusion is that even more drought will occur. This is what I am talking about logical conclusions.[/quote:28s4f63q]

If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I used the exact. SAME. LOGIC. that you're using. I waited an entire day for your reply, so it's a logical conclusion that you have no argument in response, so if you say anything now, the only logical conclusion is that you're lying, there's no other possible explanation. This is the exact same reasoning you're using to justify you're argument, and you said it was illogical. You're a hypocrite, you're not willing to apply your own "logic" against yourself because it doesn't benefit you. Read your own posts, Ingeniero, you played yourself.
[quote="troglyte":28s4f63q]Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:28s4f63q]

[quote="troglyte":28s4f63q]I've waited an entire day for your reply. The fact that you haven't replied yet must mean that you don't have an argument. Therefore, you agree with me. And if you try to rebuff it now, you're just lying. (yes, this is incredibly stupid and illogical, that is the point)

So tell me, Ingeniero, how does it feel to have your own "logic" used against you? Oh, don't bother, I already got your telepathic message. The silence was deafening.[/quote:28s4f63q]
[quote="Sound4":28s4f63q]These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:28s4f63q][/quote:28s4f63q]

[quote="Sound4":28s4f63q][quote="troglyte":28s4f63q][quote="Sound4":28s4f63q]
Show the post where I admitted to?[/quote:28s4f63q]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.[/quote:28s4f63q]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:28s4f63q]

This is what Ingeniero does. He ignores posts that he can't argue against. And this is the same person who wants us to "read his posts."

To everyone reading this thread, Sound4 is a liar, hypocrite, rule-shark, and troll. Please do not take anything this troll says seriously.

[quote="troglyte":1efm95cl][quote="troglyte":1efm95cl][quote="Sound4":1efm95cl]
What do you mean I admitted to? It is a logical conclusion. For example, if the climate gets drier then the logical conclusion is that even more drought will occur. This is what I am talking about logical conclusions.[/quote:1efm95cl]

If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I used the exact. SAME. LOGIC. that you're using. I waited an entire day for your reply, so it's a logical conclusion that you have no argument in response, so if you say anything now, the only logical conclusion is that you're lying, there's no other possible explanation. This is the exact same reasoning you're using to justify you're argument, and you said it was illogical. You're a hypocrite, you're not willing to apply your own "logic" against yourself because it doesn't benefit you. Read your own posts, Ingeniero, you played yourself.
[quote="troglyte":1efm95cl]Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:1efm95cl]

[quote="troglyte":1efm95cl]I've waited an entire day for your reply. The fact that you haven't replied yet must mean that you don't have an argument. Therefore, you agree with me. And if you try to rebuff it now, you're just lying. (yes, this is incredibly stupid and illogical, that is the point)

So tell me, Ingeniero, how does it feel to have your own "logic" used against you? Oh, don't bother, I already got your telepathic message. The silence was deafening.[/quote:1efm95cl]
[quote="Sound4":1efm95cl]These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:1efm95cl][/quote:1efm95cl]

[quote="Sound4":1efm95cl][quote="troglyte":1efm95cl]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.[/quote:1efm95cl]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:1efm95cl]

This is what Ingeniero does. He ignores posts that he can't argue against. And this is the same person who wants us to "read his posts."

To everyone reading this thread, Sound4 is a liar, hypocrite, rule-shark, and troll. Please do not take anything this troll says seriously.[/quote:1efm95cl]
I can't take what you take seriously either especially what you said in the N3sh thread.

[quote="Renji Asuka":21xd9hut][quote="Sound4":21xd9hut][quote="Renji Asuka":21xd9hut]
You been lying. You've lied about every situation you been in on the forum.[/quote:21xd9hut]
I have provided links to support my claims unlike you who has not provided anything to support your claims.[/quote:21xd9hut]
No you have not. A link to how things work in a tournament isn't anything that supports your argument. We already been through this.

We also know you have lied in several threads.[/quote:21xd9hut]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules. Quote on at least two posts where I "lied".

[quote="greg503":1omfygda][quote="Sound4":1omfygda][quote="Renji Asuka":1omfygda]
You been lying. You've lied about every situation you been in on the forum.[/quote:1omfygda]
I have provided links to support my claims unlike you who has not provided anything to support your claims.[/quote:1omfygda]
We have provided logic and honesty, the most important things in an argument[/quote:1omfygda]
I have done the same.

[quote="Sound4":62kfa7mn][quote="Renji Asuka":62kfa7mn][quote="Sound4":62kfa7mn]
I have provided links to support my claims unlike you who has not provided anything to support your claims.[/quote:62kfa7mn]
No you have not. A link to how things work in a tournament isn't anything that supports your argument. We already been through this.

We also know you have lied in several threads.[/quote:62kfa7mn]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules. Quote on at least two posts where I "lied".[/quote:62kfa7mn]
Again, we already talked about this which you conveniently ignored. Stop talking in circles and just take the fucking L

[quote="Renji Asuka":av728r6i][quote="Sound4":av728r6i][quote="Renji Asuka":av728r6i]
No you have not. A link to how things work in a tournament isn't anything that supports your argument. We already been through this.

We also know you have lied in several threads.[/quote:av728r6i]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules. Quote on at least two posts where I "lied".[/quote:av728r6i]
Again, we already talked about this which you conveniently ignored. Stop talking in circles and just take the fucking L[/quote:av728r6i]
So you refuse to quote the posts where I "lied" I think that sums it right there. Have a nice day.

[quote="Sound4":1g6qwb3q][quote="Renji Asuka":1g6qwb3q][quote="Sound4":1g6qwb3q]
DB tries to copy irl as much as possible so it is appropriate to use tournament rules. Quote on at least two posts where I "lied".[/quote:1g6qwb3q]
Again, we already talked about this which you conveniently ignored. Stop talking in circles and just take the fucking L[/quote:1g6qwb3q]
So you refuse to quote the posts where I "lied" I think that sums it right there. Have a nice day.[/quote:1g6qwb3q]
You have lied and you're still lying. Your entire thread that "Silence is consent" is a lie.

[quote="Renji Asuka":mx0jb4wv][quote="Sound4":mx0jb4wv][quote="Renji Asuka":mx0jb4wv]
Again, we already talked about this which you conveniently ignored. Stop talking in circles and just take the fucking L[/quote:mx0jb4wv]
So you refuse to quote the posts where I "lied" I think that sums it right there. Have a nice day.[/quote:mx0jb4wv]
You have lied and you're still lying. Your entire thread that "Silence is consent" is a lie.[/quote:mx0jb4wv]
And I provided a replay and a link to support my why.

[quote="Sound4":14vz4kdc][quote="Renji Asuka":14vz4kdc][quote="Sound4":14vz4kdc]
So you refuse to quote the posts where I "lied" I think that sums it right there. Have a nice day.[/quote:14vz4kdc]
You have lied and you're still lying. Your entire thread that "Silence is consent" is a lie.[/quote:14vz4kdc]
And I provided a replay and a link to support my why.[/quote:14vz4kdc]
No, your thread was predicated on a lie and you were quickly called out on it.

[quote="Renji Asuka":13bl7izi][quote="Sound4":13bl7izi][quote="Renji Asuka":13bl7izi]
You have lied and you're still lying. Your entire thread that "Silence is consent" is a lie.[/quote:13bl7izi]
And I provided a replay and a link to support my why.[/quote:13bl7izi]
No, your thread was predicated on a lie and you were quickly called out on it.[/quote:13bl7izi]
I said silence is consent in yugioh and I had confirmation by a judge itself. If you want to prove your point provide some kind of link to counter my point.

[quote="Sound4":275v90nu][quote="Renji Asuka":275v90nu][quote="Sound4":275v90nu]
And I provided a replay and a link to support my why.[/quote:275v90nu]
No, your thread was predicated on a lie and you were quickly called out on it.[/quote:275v90nu]
I said silence is consent in yugioh and I had confirmation by a judge itself. If you want to prove your point provide some kind of link to counter my point.[/quote:275v90nu]
No, no you did not have confirmation by a judge, this was already shown on page 1.

[quote="Renji Asuka":mcktj0l7][quote="Sound4":mcktj0l7][quote="Renji Asuka":mcktj0l7]
No, your thread was predicated on a lie and you were quickly called out on it.[/quote:mcktj0l7]
I said silence is consent in yugioh and I had confirmation by a judge itself. If you want to prove your point provide some kind of link to counter my point.[/quote:mcktj0l7]
No, no you did not have confirmation by a judge, this was already shown on page 1.[/quote:mcktj0l7]
18:11] "Because the other time with N3sh apparently silence is not consent in yugioh"
[18:21] MadRest: "It is in most cases."
You refuse to provide some kind of link to counter my point which doesn't help.

[quote="Sound4":1j8zy0fu][quote="Renji Asuka":1j8zy0fu][quote="Sound4":1j8zy0fu]
DB is a bit more faster than DNbut my point was never comparing the two. The point was that Renji Asuka keeps using his apparently DB duels as proof as silence is not consent. As I said in the earlier in the other thread it is a logical conclusion. If your opponent had a response why did not they not say anything? The most logical conclusion is that they had no response. No other reason on why.[/quote:1j8zy0fu]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.[/quote:1j8zy0fu]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:1j8zy0fu]
This is a lie, they confirmed you were an alt, and it's pretty obvious who's alt you are when you just conveniently pick up the thread and characteristics Ingen left behind. Strike 1...

[quote="Sound4":24ovr7at][quote="Renji Asuka":24ovr7at][quote="Sound4":24ovr7at]
I said silence is consent in yugioh and I had confirmation by a judge itself. If you want to prove your point provide some kind of link to counter my point.[/quote:24ovr7at]
No, no you did not have confirmation by a judge, this was already shown on page 1.[/quote:24ovr7at]
18:11] "Because the other time with N3sh apparently silence is not consent in yugioh"
[18:21] MadRest: "It is in most cases."
You refuse to provide some kind of link to counter my point which doesn't help.[/quote:24ovr7at]
Again, was already debunked on Page 1.

[quote="greg503":2rrk0z48][quote="Sound4":2rrk0z48][quote="Renji Asuka":2rrk0z48]
Here's something you should do.

Get perma beginner on all your accounts Ingeniero. You obviously don't belong in Ranked if you think silence is consent.

Oh since you didn't respond to this post in 5 seconds, that must mean you agree with me. Since silence is consent.[/quote:2rrk0z48]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:2rrk0z48]
This is a lie, they confirmed you were an alt, and it's pretty obvious who's alt you are when you just conveniently pick up the thread and characteristics Ingen left behind. Strike 1...[/quote:2rrk0z48]
I already explained my reasoning on why I commented on that thread.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1p3y0m4q][quote="Sound4":1p3y0m4q][quote="Renji Asuka":1p3y0m4q]
No, no you did not have confirmation by a judge, this was already shown on page 1.[/quote:1p3y0m4q]
18:11] "Because the other time with N3sh apparently silence is not consent in yugioh"
[18:21] MadRest: "It is in most cases."
You refuse to provide some kind of link to counter my point which doesn't help.[/quote:1p3y0m4q]
Again, was already debunked on Page 1.[/quote:1p3y0m4q]
Genexwrecker was saying we took it to "literate" which doesn't make any sense if we took it to literate Madrest would have mentioned itm

[quote="Sound4":2vh53utg][quote="Renji Asuka":2vh53utg][quote="Sound4":2vh53utg]
18:11] "Because the other time with N3sh apparently silence is not consent in yugioh"
[18:21] MadRest: "It is in most cases."
You refuse to provide some kind of link to counter my point which doesn't help.[/quote:2vh53utg]
Again, was already debunked on Page 1.[/quote:2vh53utg]
Genexwrecker was saying we took it to "literate" which doesn't make any sense if we took it to literate Madrest would have mentioned itm[/quote:2vh53utg]
Again, it was still debunked on page 1. You have no argument, you're not convincing anyone, just take the L.

[quote="Sound4":7d4exqli][quote="greg503":7d4exqli][quote="Sound4":7d4exqli]
Genexwrecker provided 0 proof on this apparently being an alt account of ingeneiro. Read my posts on troglyte on the 2nd part.[/quote:7d4exqli]
This is a lie, they confirmed you were an alt, and it's pretty obvious who's alt you are when you just conveniently pick up the thread and characteristics Ingen left behind. Strike 1...[/quote:7d4exqli]
I already explained my reasoning on why I commented on that thread.[/quote:7d4exqli]
Yes, an alt that just so happened to be made that very day just so happened to go on the forums, just so happened to go to that thread, and just so happened to post, and just so happened to agree with all of Ingeniero's beliefs, but is somehow not an alt of said Ingeniero, yeah right...

[quote="Renji Asuka":2svpyjlp][quote="Sound4":2svpyjlp][quote="Renji Asuka":2svpyjlp]
Again, was already debunked on Page 1.[/quote:2svpyjlp]
Genexwrecker was saying we took it to "literate" which doesn't make any sense if we took it to literate Madrest would have mentioned itm[/quote:2svpyjlp]
Again, it was still debunked on page 1. You have no argument, you're not convincing anyone, just take the L.[/quote:2svpyjlp]
I replied to what Genexwrecker said about that.

[quote="greg503":3ibb2j0k][quote="Sound4":3ibb2j0k][quote="greg503":3ibb2j0k]
This is a lie, they confirmed you were an alt, and it's pretty obvious who's alt you are when you just conveniently pick up the thread and characteristics Ingen left behind. Strike 1...[/quote:3ibb2j0k]
I already explained my reasoning on why I commented on that thread.[/quote:3ibb2j0k]
Yes, an alt that just so happened to be made that very day just so happened to go on the forums, just so happened to go to that thread, and just so happened to post, and just so happened to agree with all of Ingeniero's beliefs, but is somehow not an alt of said Ingeniero, yeah right...[/quote:3ibb2j0k]
What do you mean that very day? I saw the post and if you watch farfa from time to time then you can see cheats consistently. I literally said that he got frozen for some of the links he showed.

[quote="Sound4":1qkiw3ed][quote="Renji Asuka":1qkiw3ed][quote="Sound4":1qkiw3ed]
Genexwrecker was saying we took it to "literate" which doesn't make any sense if we took it to literate Madrest would have mentioned itm[/quote:1qkiw3ed]
Again, it was still debunked on page 1. You have no argument, you're not convincing anyone, just take the L.[/quote:1qkiw3ed]
I replied to what Genexwrecker said about that.[/quote:1qkiw3ed]
And your opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant. You are in the wrong. Take the L.

[quote="Sound4":205fzjq0][quote="greg503":205fzjq0][quote="Sound4":205fzjq0]
I already explained my reasoning on why I commented on that thread.[/quote:205fzjq0]
Yes, an alt that just so happened to be made that very day just so happened to go on the forums, just so happened to go to that thread, and just so happened to post, and just so happened to agree with all of Ingeniero's beliefs, but is somehow not an alt of said Ingeniero, yeah right...[/quote:205fzjq0]
What do you mean that very day? I saw the post and if you watch farfa from time to time then you can see cheats consistently. I literally said that he got frozen for some of the links he showed.[/quote:205fzjq0]
I'm pretty sure you literally made your account the same day you first posted on the forums

[quote="Renji Asuka":5t1fjbyf][quote="Sound4":5t1fjbyf][quote="Renji Asuka":5t1fjbyf]
Again, it was still debunked on page 1. You have no argument, you're not convincing anyone, just take the L.[/quote:5t1fjbyf]
I replied to what Genexwrecker said about that.[/quote:5t1fjbyf]
And your opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant. You are in the wrong. Take the L.[/quote:5t1fjbyf]
Yet I provided links to support my claims yet you refused to and couldn't.

[quote="Sound4":3vkv48ks][quote="Renji Asuka":3vkv48ks][quote="Sound4":3vkv48ks]
I replied to what Genexwrecker said about that.[/quote:3vkv48ks]
And your opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant. You are in the wrong. Take the L.[/quote:3vkv48ks]
Yet I provided links to support my claims yet you refused to and couldn't.[/quote:3vkv48ks]
And your links and claims doesn't support what you're stating. Again, already debunked and you refuse to let it go. Take the L.

Once again, we're just going in circles at this point

[quote="Renji Asuka":260j9tiv][quote="Sound4":260j9tiv][quote="Renji Asuka":260j9tiv]
And your opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant. You are in the wrong. Take the L.[/quote:260j9tiv]
Yet I provided links to support my claims yet you refused to and couldn't.[/quote:260j9tiv]
And your links and claims doesn't support what you're stating. Again, already debunked and you refuse to let it go. Take the L.[/quote:260j9tiv]
I replied to all of your posts which I explained my reasoning in each one of them.

[quote="Sound4":2vm6ulth][quote="Renji Asuka":2vm6ulth][quote="Sound4":2vm6ulth]
Yet I provided links to support my claims yet you refused to and couldn't.[/quote:2vm6ulth]
And your links and claims doesn't support what you're stating. Again, already debunked and you refuse to let it go. Take the L.[/quote:2vm6ulth]
I replied to all of your posts which I explained my reasoning in each one of them.[/quote:2vm6ulth]
No, all you did was refuse to back down even though you're wrong. You're wrong on the issue and will always be wrong on the issue if you keep it up. You haven't convinced ANYONE of your non arguments.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2c6qlu3d][quote="Sound4":2c6qlu3d][quote="Renji Asuka":2c6qlu3d]
And your links and claims doesn't support what you're stating. Again, already debunked and you refuse to let it go. Take the L.[/quote:2c6qlu3d]
I replied to all of your posts which I explained my reasoning in each one of them.[/quote:2c6qlu3d]
No, all you did was refuse to back down even though you're wrong. You're wrong on the issue and will always be wrong on the issue if you keep it up. You haven't convinced ANYONE of your non arguments.[/quote:2c6qlu3d]
I explained my reasoning in each of my posts I wasn't toxic nor was I writing in caps for no reason like you Renji Asuka.

[quote="Sound4":1t3lsuir][quote="Renji Asuka":1t3lsuir][quote="Sound4":1t3lsuir]
I replied to all of your posts which I explained my reasoning in each one of them.[/quote:1t3lsuir]
No, all you did was refuse to back down even though you're wrong. You're wrong on the issue and will always be wrong on the issue if you keep it up. You haven't convinced ANYONE of your non arguments.[/quote:1t3lsuir]
I explained my reasoning in each of my posts I wasn't toxic nor was I writing in caps for no reason like you Renji Asuka.[/quote:1t3lsuir]
Actually, you are being toxic by refusing to acknowledge that the opponent has the right to respond. You are being toxic for refusing to accept you are wrong. You are being toxic by acting like you weren't "rule sharking" your opponent when you clearly were.

[quote="Renji Asuka":168yh06j][quote="Sound4":168yh06j][quote="Renji Asuka":168yh06j]
No, all you did was refuse to back down even though you're wrong. You're wrong on the issue and will always be wrong on the issue if you keep it up. You haven't convinced ANYONE of your non arguments.[/quote:168yh06j]
I explained my reasoning in each of my posts I wasn't toxic nor was I writing in caps for no reason like you Renji Asuka.[/quote:168yh06j]
Actually, you are being toxic by refusing to acknowledge that the opponent has the right to respond. You are being toxic for refusing to accept you are wrong. You are being toxic by acting like you weren't "rule sharking" your opponent when you clearly were.[/quote:168yh06j]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.

[quote="Sound4":x2iwqkjm][quote="Renji Asuka":x2iwqkjm][quote="Sound4":x2iwqkjm]
I explained my reasoning in each of my posts I wasn't toxic nor was I writing in caps for no reason like you Renji Asuka.[/quote:x2iwqkjm]
Actually, you are being toxic by refusing to acknowledge that the opponent has the right to respond. You are being toxic for refusing to accept you are wrong. You are being toxic by acting like you weren't "rule sharking" your opponent when you clearly were.[/quote:x2iwqkjm]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.[/quote:x2iwqkjm]
Then why is this thread SO LONG

[quote="greg503":2bkks64b][quote="Sound4":2bkks64b][quote="Renji Asuka":2bkks64b]
Actually, you are being toxic by refusing to acknowledge that the opponent has the right to respond. You are being toxic for refusing to accept you are wrong. You are being toxic by acting like you weren't "rule sharking" your opponent when you clearly were.[/quote:2bkks64b]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.[/quote:2bkks64b]
Then why is this thread SO LONG[/quote:2bkks64b]
As you and few other people including me are debatong each others points?

[quote="Sound4":yz7x0c81][quote="greg503":yz7x0c81][quote="Sound4":yz7x0c81]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.[/quote:yz7x0c81]
Then why is this thread SO LONG[/quote:yz7x0c81]
As you and few other people including me are debatong each others points?[/quote:yz7x0c81]
No, you aren't debating, not anymore. We've run out of new things to add.

[quote="Sound4":36755d0v][quote="Renji Asuka":36755d0v][quote="Sound4":36755d0v]
I explained my reasoning in each of my posts I wasn't toxic nor was I writing in caps for no reason like you Renji Asuka.[/quote:36755d0v]
Actually, you are being toxic by refusing to acknowledge that the opponent has the right to respond. You are being toxic for refusing to accept you are wrong. You are being toxic by acting like you weren't "rule sharking" your opponent when you clearly were.[/quote:36755d0v]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.[/quote:36755d0v]
Again, you are being toxic. I already explained and you're proving my point already that you are in fact toxic. Take the L.

[quote="Renji Asuka":ib2lbc76][quote="Sound4":ib2lbc76][quote="Renji Asuka":ib2lbc76]
Actually, you are being toxic by refusing to acknowledge that the opponent has the right to respond. You are being toxic for refusing to accept you are wrong. You are being toxic by acting like you weren't "rule sharking" your opponent when you clearly were.[/quote:ib2lbc76]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.[/quote:ib2lbc76]
Again, you are being toxic. I already explained and you're proving my point already that you are in fact toxic. Take the L.[/quote:ib2lbc76]
Explain

[quote="greg503":37fxpap3][quote="Sound4":37fxpap3][quote="greg503":37fxpap3]
Then why is this thread SO LONG[/quote:37fxpap3]
As you and few other people including me are debatong each others points?[/quote:37fxpap3]
No, you aren't debating, not anymore. We've run out of new things to add.[/quote:37fxpap3]
It depends

[quote="Sound4":15keprh5][quote="Renji Asuka":15keprh5][quote="Sound4":15keprh5]
I am actually not being toxic. The judge in the duel didn't accuse me of sharking. Calling out late responses isn't sharking simple as that which you have failed to answer once.[/quote:15keprh5]
Again, you are being toxic. I already explained and you're proving my point already that you are in fact toxic. Take the L.[/quote:15keprh5]
Explain[/quote:15keprh5]
Read my post.

This is one of the most basic forms of ethics that the majority of people should agree on. In a game like this, there are always someone that disagrees, so just ignore them.

[quote="Sound4":gewmio22][quote="greg503":gewmio22][quote="Sound4":gewmio22]
As you and few other people including me are debatong each others points?[/quote:gewmio22]
No, you aren't debating, not anymore. We've run out of new things to add.[/quote:gewmio22]
It depends[/quote:gewmio22]
Then say something new

[quote="Jedx_EX":1p7smtto]This is one of the most basic forms of ethics that the majority of people should agree on. In a game like this, there are always someone that disagrees, so just ignore them.[/quote:1p7smtto]
What do you mean?

[quote="Renji Asuka":2us1tagj][quote="BoomerDuels":2us1tagj][quote="troglyte":2us1tagj]

Valid reasons could be a number of things.
1. Maybe something happened irl and they needed to look away for a second
2. Maybe they are in fact reading or thinking, and forgot to type it.
3. Yes, slow connection is a thing. It happens to the best of us. I for one very much appreciate the DC timer that was added.

The best thing you could possibly do is clear the fog. Establish clear ground rules for responses and communication. This could be as simple as saying "I'll let you know if I have a response" or just clicking the Thumbs Up button whenever your opponent makes a play.

I personally disagree with the "Not my problem" argument. It's a 2-player game, and if one person is not able or refusing to communicate, it is, in fact, both players' problem, and needs to be addressed immediately. The way DB is designed, it's up to the players to establish a certain level of trust between them, much like in real life.[/quote:2us1tagj]

Both the first 2 are not valid reasons
In both the situations - The opponent should be the one showing basic courtesy to me by taking 2 seconds to type "Hollup" or "Read" or :Think" in chat

If they do not - It is my right to do a play
And if 1 player has an issue with, or example, the internet - That is not my fault. It is entirely their responsibility to make sure they have a stable internet connection. If they do not - It is not my problem and it is definitely my right to continue playing[/quote:2us1tagj]
You do not have a right to play, your opponent has a right to respond to your plays. Because of this, you DO NOT make a play until given the okay to do so. You can and will likely get a game loss otherwise.

Call judge, let them deal with it.[/quote:2us1tagj]

Muh dood, the thing is, most of the time I am on, I do not see that many if not a single Judge online, but I get your point here.

[quote="troglyte":3q7a0maq][quote="troglyte":3q7a0maq][quote="Sound4":3q7a0maq]
What do you mean I admitted to? It is a logical conclusion. For example, if the climate gets drier then the logical conclusion is that even more drought will occur. This is what I am talking about logical conclusions.[/quote:3q7a0maq]

If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I used the exact. SAME. LOGIC. that you're using. I waited an entire day for your reply, so it's a logical conclusion that you have no argument in response, so if you say anything now, the only logical conclusion is that you're lying, there's no other possible explanation. This is the exact same reasoning you're using to justify you're argument, and you said it was illogical. You're a hypocrite, you're not willing to apply your own "logic" against yourself because it doesn't benefit you. Read your own posts, Ingeniero, you played yourself.
[quote="troglyte":3q7a0maq]Well, if silence really is consent, then the fact that Boomer hasn't responded to my explanation for why assumptions are bad must mean he agrees with me, therefore, he's NOT on your side of this argument. He has 'acknowledged it through his silence.'

Furthermore, your silence on my explanation for why your link isn't relevant must mean that you agree with me.

They're logical assumptions, after all. That's how silence is consent works, Ingeniero.[/quote:3q7a0maq]

[quote="troglyte":3q7a0maq]I've waited an entire day for your reply. The fact that you haven't replied yet must mean that you don't have an argument. Therefore, you agree with me. And if you try to rebuff it now, you're just lying. (yes, this is incredibly stupid and illogical, that is the point)

So tell me, Ingeniero, how does it feel to have your own "logic" used against you? Oh, don't bother, I already got your telepathic message. The silence was deafening.[/quote:3q7a0maq]
[quote="Sound4":3q7a0maq]These aren't logical it is most likely that Boomer duels has already made his point since his last post. None of this is logical.[/quote:3q7a0maq][/quote:3q7a0maq]

[quote="Sound4":3q7a0maq][quote="troglyte":3q7a0maq]

Playing dumb isn't a valid argument either, Ingeniero. I know you've read my posts, something you've taken great pride in until recently.[/quote:3q7a0maq]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:3q7a0maq]

This is what Ingeniero does. He ignores posts that he can't argue against. And this is the same person who wants us to "read his posts."

To everyone reading this thread, Sound4 is a liar, hypocrite, rule-shark, and troll. Please do not take anything this troll says seriously.[/quote:3q7a0maq]

Sound4's a (to be honest) f***Ing dumbass that Renji or Genexwrecker would be glad to perma-ban from this forum and the site.

[quote="TheRoyalAu":3wwq3n5y][quote="troglyte":3wwq3n5y][quote="troglyte":3wwq3n5y]

If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I used the exact. SAME. LOGIC. that you're using. I waited an entire day for your reply, so it's a logical conclusion that you have no argument in response, so if you say anything now, the only logical conclusion is that you're lying, there's no other possible explanation. This is the exact same reasoning you're using to justify you're argument, and you said it was illogical. You're a hypocrite, you're not willing to apply your own "logic" against yourself because it doesn't benefit you. Read your own posts, Ingeniero, you played yourself.



[/quote:3wwq3n5y]

[quote="Sound4":3wwq3n5y]
So you refuse to show the posts where I admitted to? You come off as you are lying.
Have a nice day[/quote:3wwq3n5y]

This is what Ingeniero does. He ignores posts that he can't argue against. And this is the same person who wants us to "read his posts."

To everyone reading this thread, Sound4 is a liar, hypocrite, rule-shark, and troll. Please do not take anything this troll says seriously.[/quote:3wwq3n5y]

Sound4's a (to be honest) f***Ing dumbass that Renji or Genexwrecker would be glad to perma-ban from this forum and the site.[/quote:3wwq3n5y]

There's a reason why I won't apply to be a mod on the forum let alone a judge. I'd straight up freeze everyone if they argued back to me after I declare my judgment.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1wkvfh82][quote="TheRoyalAu":1wkvfh82][quote="troglyte":1wkvfh82]



This is what Ingeniero does. He ignores posts that he can't argue against. And this is the same person who wants us to "read his posts."

To everyone reading this thread, Sound4 is a liar, hypocrite, rule-shark, and troll. Please do not take anything this troll says seriously.[/quote:1wkvfh82]

Sound4's a (to be honest) f***Ing dumbass that Renji or Genexwrecker would be glad to perma-ban from this forum and the site.[/quote:1wkvfh82]

There's a reason why I won't apply to be a mod on the forum let alone a judge. I'd straight up freeze everyone if they argued back to me after I declare my judgment.[/quote:1wkvfh82]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.

[quote="Sound4":11dx92lz][quote="Renji Asuka":11dx92lz][quote="TheRoyalAu":11dx92lz]

Sound4's a (to be honest) f***Ing dumbass that Renji or Genexwrecker would be glad to perma-ban from this forum and the site.[/quote:11dx92lz]

There's a reason why I won't apply to be a mod on the forum let alone a judge. I'd straight up freeze everyone if they argued back to me after I declare my judgment.[/quote:11dx92lz]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.[/quote:11dx92lz]

What? You lost me there, and I'm pretty sure you also lost Renji there as well.

[quote="Sound4":1h217e3y][quote="Renji Asuka":1h217e3y][quote="TheRoyalAu":1h217e3y]

Sound4's a (to be honest) f***Ing dumbass that Renji or Genexwrecker would be glad to perma-ban from this forum and the site.[/quote:1h217e3y]

There's a reason why I won't apply to be a mod on the forum let alone a judge. I'd straight up freeze everyone if they argued back to me after I declare my judgment.[/quote:1h217e3y]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.[/quote:1h217e3y]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.

[quote="Renji Asuka":240iqqau][quote="Sound4":240iqqau][quote="Renji Asuka":240iqqau]

There's a reason why I won't apply to be a mod on the forum let alone a judge. I'd straight up freeze everyone if they argued back to me after I declare my judgment.[/quote:240iqqau]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.[/quote:240iqqau]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:240iqqau]

I completely agree here, and for outlining this rule, I was accused of sharking like wtf?

[quote="TheRoyalAu":1yt1zkss][quote="Renji Asuka":1yt1zkss][quote="Sound4":1yt1zkss]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.[/quote:1yt1zkss]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:1yt1zkss]

I completely agree here, and for outlining this rule, I was accused of sharking like wtf?[/quote:1yt1zkss]
Probably because you did shark.

[quote="Sound4":mtfj3lb8][quote="TheRoyalAu":mtfj3lb8][quote="Renji Asuka":mtfj3lb8]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:mtfj3lb8]

I completely agree here, and for outlining this rule, I was accused of sharking like wtf?[/quote:mtfj3lb8]
Probably because you did shark.[/quote:mtfj3lb8]
And you did try to cheat your opponent multiple times.

ok

[quote="Sound4":2ljgyq43][quote="TheRoyalAu":2ljgyq43][quote="Renji Asuka":2ljgyq43]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:2ljgyq43]

I completely agree here, and for outlining this rule, I was accused of sharking like wtf?[/quote:2ljgyq43]
Probably because you did shark.[/quote:2ljgyq43]

Not even close.

I outlined this rule whilst in rated, but I could care less about excuses for anyone to continue playing without asking for a response.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1owvig27][quote="Sound4":1owvig27][quote="TheRoyalAu":1owvig27]

I completely agree here, and for outlining this rule, I was accused of sharking like wtf?[/quote:1owvig27]
Probably because you did shark.[/quote:1owvig27]
And you did try to cheat your opponent multiple times.[/quote:1owvig27]

How? I don't get why, because it is outlined in this post that my silence along with the author that posted this posts silence, is not consent.

[quote="TheRoyalAu":u6v4jmj8][quote="Renji Asuka":u6v4jmj8][quote="Sound4":u6v4jmj8]
Probably because you did shark.[/quote:u6v4jmj8]
And you did try to cheat your opponent multiple times.[/quote:u6v4jmj8]

How? I don't get why, because it is outlined in this post that my silence along with the author that posted this posts silence, is not consent.[/quote:u6v4jmj8]
I wasn't talking to you.

[quote="Renji Asuka":21rvv3mc][quote="Sound4":21rvv3mc][quote="Renji Asuka":21rvv3mc]

There's a reason why I won't apply to be a mod on the forum let alone a judge. I'd straight up freeze everyone if they argued back to me after I declare my judgment.[/quote:21rvv3mc]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.[/quote:21rvv3mc]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:21rvv3mc]
This doesn't answer the post I mentioned nothing in the post about silence is consent in yugioh. I said that there is nothing wrong with questioning a judge.

[quote="Sound4":1ha5xi1z][quote="Renji Asuka":1ha5xi1z][quote="Sound4":1ha5xi1z]
There is nothing wrong with questioning a judgement especially when they have clear flaws.[/quote:1ha5xi1z]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:1ha5xi1z]
This doesn't answer the post I mentioned nothing in the post about silence is consent in yugioh. I said that there is nothing wrong with questioning a judge.[/quote:1ha5xi1z]
Doesn't matter, you refuse to accept any answer that doesn't agree with you. That alone warrants enough to perma ban you if I was an admin. Hell if you still kept it up after being told "Silence is not consent", your thread wouldn't even make it past page 1.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2ckkg0ac][quote="Sound4":2ckkg0ac][quote="Renji Asuka":2ckkg0ac]
Dude, you were told that silence is not consent on page 1 on the other thread, you refuse to accept this and still do. If I had powers of a mod, you'd be banned for good.[/quote:2ckkg0ac]
This doesn't answer the post I mentioned nothing in the post about silence is consent in yugioh. I said that there is nothing wrong with questioning a judge.[/quote:2ckkg0ac]
Doesn't matter, you refuse to accept any answer that doesn't agree with you. That alone warrants enough to perma ban you if I was an admin. Hell if you still kept it up after being told "Silence is not consent", your thread wouldn't even make it past page 1.[/quote:2ckkg0ac]
The post had nothing to do with silence is consent you are just trying to involve that to make a point. Learn to read properly.

[quote="Sound4":1ifhrgtw][quote="Renji Asuka":1ifhrgtw][quote="Sound4":1ifhrgtw]
This doesn't answer the post I mentioned nothing in the post about silence is consent in yugioh. I said that there is nothing wrong with questioning a judge.[/quote:1ifhrgtw]
Doesn't matter, you refuse to accept any answer that doesn't agree with you. That alone warrants enough to perma ban you if I was an admin. Hell if you still kept it up after being told "Silence is not consent", your thread wouldn't even make it past page 1.[/quote:1ifhrgtw]
The post had nothing to do with silence is consent you are just trying to involve that to make a point. Learn to read properly.[/quote:1ifhrgtw]
[url:1ifhrgtw]https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=18273&p=71815&hilit=madrest#p71815[/url:1ifhrgtw]
Perhaps you've forgotten what post is being referred to, but this is where the argument should have ended.

[quote="Sound4":1gc87urq][quote="Renji Asuka":1gc87urq][quote="Sound4":1gc87urq]
This doesn't answer the post I mentioned nothing in the post about silence is consent in yugioh. I said that there is nothing wrong with questioning a judge.[/quote:1gc87urq]
Doesn't matter, you refuse to accept any answer that doesn't agree with you. That alone warrants enough to perma ban you if I was an admin. Hell if you still kept it up after being told "Silence is not consent", your thread wouldn't even make it past page 1.[/quote:1gc87urq]
The post had nothing to do with silence is consent you are just trying to involve that to make a point. Learn to read properly.[/quote:1gc87urq]
You do realize you tried to argue that silence is consent in this thread right? Stop being stupid.

[quote="Renji Asuka":32haas8l][quote="Sound4":32haas8l][quote="Renji Asuka":32haas8l]
Doesn't matter, you refuse to accept any answer that doesn't agree with you. That alone warrants enough to perma ban you if I was an admin. Hell if you still kept it up after being told "Silence is not consent", your thread wouldn't even make it past page 1.[/quote:32haas8l]
The post had nothing to do with silence is consent you are just trying to involve that to make a point. Learn to read properly.[/quote:32haas8l]
You do realize you tried to argue that silence is consent in this thread right? Stop being stupid.[/quote:32haas8l]
That doesn't change the fact that it had nothing to do with my post.

[quote="Sound4":wyo70lxr][quote="Renji Asuka":wyo70lxr][quote="Sound4":wyo70lxr]
The post had nothing to do with silence is consent you are just trying to involve that to make a point. Learn to read properly.[/quote:wyo70lxr]
You do realize you tried to argue that silence is consent in this thread right? Stop being stupid.[/quote:wyo70lxr]
That doesn't change the fact that it had nothing to do with my post.[/quote:wyo70lxr]
Actually, it isn't about that argument, but that you're doing the same thing in both threads