 Christen57 | | #14 | Fri Oct 8, 2021 1:52 PM | | Delete | [quote="greg503":2l9b546x]Sorry, I thought you cared about other people's opinions when you made this thread.[/quote:2l9b546x] You didn't do or say anything to him in the past that angered him did you? Because he really seems to dislike you specifically.[quote="Saraak":2l9b546x]And it actually is good criticism, as big wordy archetypes are often intimidating for players to even try and play with. By having cards that are like this, you inadvertently lengthen the game just because players (who want to win) will end up trying to read and make sense of these cards. (And that's with ignoring a few typos, but if you care about this archetype, then I assume you'll fix it.)I took a cursory look and all I saw were basically Block Dragon's that double as Herald hand traps (without the need to send another Fairy, or in this case Rock, monster to the GY). To be fair, it doesn't have Block Dragon's ridiculous search effect when it leaves the field and they're limited to having hard once per turn effects and only 1 of those effects per name on that turn. But still, there's too much room for people to abuse it in a way you did not intend. The parallels are there and that alone speaks volumes. Not to mention, a Spell (Gratherings) that both mills (which mills even more if you have more Rock monsters in your GY) and adds a Minior (but more often than not, a Rock monster) to hand? You're basically creating everything Adamancipator needs to be busted. This could be all that Adamancipator's need to reach their previous strength, perhaps even more so due to them having handtrap effects, which makes it hard to interrupt their combos. And I haven't even touched on the other Spells, with one of them being functionally the same as above (Supreme Spectrum Core Smash). If you want them balanced, try limiting all the monsters to 1, because that's how powerful they are. And even if they are at 1, they would still be strong. Did you want the archetype to be overpowered? Because that's what it ended up becoming.[/quote:2l9b546x] [quote="Slitina":2l9b546x]Hate is a strong word to someone who gives good criticism.[/quote:2l9b546x] Some things I noticed about Zack throughout my many conversations and duels with him that I think are worth bringing up:
He seems to enjoy, play by, and build his decks around, the OCG banlist far more than the TCG one, and currently, Block Dragon is unlimited in the OCG while Thunder Dragon Colossus, another card I've seen him use in customs, is limited in the OCG, but the problem is that the vast majority of people on duelingbook play by and build their decks around the TCG banlist and naturally assume that all of their opponent's will do the same, making things awkward to say the least when Zack comes to customs with an OCG-banlist-compatible deck against a player with a TCG-banlist-compatible deck who isn't expecting stuff like Maxx "C" and whatnot. That is one possible explanation for why many of his custom cards and decks have been broken — he needs to make sure his cards can play through stuff like Maxx "C", Thunder Dragon Colossus, Smoke Grenade of the Thief, and Vanity's Emptiness, none of which are currently banned in the OCG like they are in the TCG. This means all his customs have to be super strong and at least semi-generic, similar to how broken the new Flundereeze archetype had to be so that that archetype could play through Maxx "C" and Vanity's Emptiness in the OCG.
This is why it's so problematic to design your customs around the OCG banlist only to then bring them into a TCG setting, because they end up broken with tons of free special summoning, searching, omni-negating, and so on, all without Maxx "C" to keep any of them in check since that card's banned in the TCG.
Zack also apparently posts his customs to another online forum for people to give feedback on, and even over there people point out how broken they are. [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408413-tornadus-thundurus-and-landorus-in-yugioh-card-form/?do=findComment&comment=7191577[/url:2l9b546x]
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He also, for some reason, seems to require at least 5 to 10 different people reviewing his customs instead of just 2 or 3 people or else he will not balance them.Sep 03, 4:01 PM Zack223: Hey Sep 03, 4:01 PM Zack223: Chris I have a lonk Sep 03, 4:01 PM Zack223: To send you Sep 03, 4:01 PM Zack223: Can you please tell me how balanced these cards are Sep 03, 4:01 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/407925-i-made-better-versions-of-older-cards-in-other-words-i-reworked-them/?tab=comments#comment-7190387[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 03, 4:03 PM Christen57: didn't others already give feedback on those cards in that forum Sep 03, 4:03 PM Zack223: Please Sep 03, 4:03 PM Christen57: read through some of their replies and start with those for now Sep 03, 4:03 PM Zack223: Give me your toughts Sep 03, 4:04 PM Zack223: I did Sep 03, 4:04 PM Zack223: I just wanted your thoughts on them Sep 03, 4:04 PM Zack223: There toughts are mostly positive reviews Sep 03, 4:04 PM Zack223: Give me your toughts Sep 03, 4:05 PM Zack223: And what you think of them Sep 03, 4:08 PM Zack223: Please Sep 03, 4:08 PM Zack223: Tell me what you think of them Sep 03, 4:12 PM Zack223: Hello? Sep 03, 4:12 PM Zack223: Just Sep 03, 4:12 PM Zack223: Read the effects Sep 03, 4:12 PM Zack223: I rdy give them likes Sep 03, 4:13 PM Zack223: On there comments Sep 03, 4:18 PM Zack223: ... Sep 03, 4:24 PM Christen57: a generic level 7 synchro with an omni negate and free special summoning from the graveyard seems too strong Sep 03, 4:24 PM Zack223: Okay Sep 03, 4:24 PM Zack223: Tell Sep 03, 4:25 PM Zack223: What you think Sep 03, 4:25 PM Christen57: the rest seem okay i guess Sep 03, 4:25 PM Zack223: About the Tre above Sep 03, 4:25 PM Zack223: Is the Alternative Dark Magician to weaj Sep 03, 4:27 PM Zack223: Would you ever play Alternative Dark Magician? Sep 03, 4:28 PM Zack223: Or is he too hard to use? Sep 03, 4:31 PM Zack223: Would you play Alternative Dark Magician or not? Sep 05, 2:15 PM Zack223: Lets Sep 05, 2:15 PM Zack223: Duel Sep 05, 2:15 PM Zack223: TestingNew Sep 05, 2:15 PM Zack223: Swordsoul Sep 05, 2:15 PM Zack223: Achetypew Sep 05, 2:20 PM Christen57: let me see this deck first Sep 05, 2:21 PM Christen57: i'm not wasting my time dueling another crazy broken custom deck Sep 05, 2:22 PM Zack223: Swordsoul Sep 05, 2:22 PM Zack223: is part Sep 05, 2:22 PM Zack223: of an OCG Achetype Sep 05, 2:22 PM Christen57: oh okay fine Sep 05, 2:23 PM Christen57: you want to host or should i host Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: otherewise Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: know as Xiangjian Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: Do you know Xiangjian Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: You should Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: Here Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: I show Sep 05, 2:23 PM Zack223: yoyu what Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: Xiangjian is Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Swordsoul[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: 'also Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: PleaseBring Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: a Powerful Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: Side Deck Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: agaistit Sep 05, 2:24 PM Zack223: No Sep 05, 2:25 PM Zack223: SidBe sure to Side agist this Deck Sep 05, 2:25 PM Zack223: Bring Dark Ruler no more Sep 05, 2:25 PM Zack223: Bring droplets Sep 05, 2:26 PM Zack223: Bring Kaijud Sep 05, 2:26 PM Christen57: just host Sep 05, 2:26 PM Zack223: Did Sep 05, 2:26 PM Zack223: you Perpare Sep 05, 2:26 PM Zack223: Your side Deck Sep 05, 2:27 PM Zack223: okay Sep 05, 2:27 PM Zack223: hosting Sep 05, 2:29 PM Zack223: Okay Sep 05, 2:29 PM Zack223: Readythis Sep 05, 2:29 PM Zack223: Timewith the right Deck Sep 05, 2:30 PM Zack223: I made sure of it Sep 05, 2:31 PM Zack223: lets duel Here, I duel him and he plays multiple semi-generic custom synchros with all sorts of "draw 2" effects and omni-negates. [url:2l9b546x]https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=58994-31649274[/url:2l9b546x]
[url:2l9b546x]https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=58994-31650294[/url:2l9b546x]
After I leave the duels, the conversation continues below:Sep 05, 2:53 PM Zack223: Im Sep 05, 2:53 PM Zack223: sporry Sep 05, 2:53 PM Zack223: ChrisFor not telling you Sep 05, 2:53 PM Christen57: one moment Sep 05, 2:58 PM Christen57: ok you can host again i guess Sep 05, 2:59 PM Zack223: We Sep 05, 2:59 PM Zack223: will Play TCG Sep 05, 2:59 PM Zack223: Let Sep 05, 2:59 PM Zack223: me fix Sep 05, 2:59 PM Zack223: my Deck first Sep 05, 3:02 PM Zack223: Let] Sep 05, 3:02 PM Zack223: me fix Sep 05, 3:02 PM Zack223: up my Deck Sep 05, 3:03 PM Christen57: also your synchros do too much, they shouldn't both have omni-negates and a bunch of other draw/plus effects Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: OKay Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: Im hst Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: TCG this time Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: also Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: Ill fix it l;ater Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: I havea family Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: night coming up Sep 05, 3:05 PM Zack223: sooon Sep 05, 3:07 PM Zack223: Oky Sep 05, 3:07 PM Zack223: Hosting Sep 05, 3:07 PM Zack223: I have Sep 05, 3:07 PM Zack223: a family Sep 05, 3:07 PM Zack223: night coming up Sep 05, 3:22 PM Zack223: How Sep 05, 3:22 PM Zack223: Is it op? Sep 05, 3:29 PM Christen57: due to how easy it is to get out multiple copies of it in a single turn and none of it's important effects being hard once per turn, i would say so Sep 05, 3:30 PM Zack223: atleast Sep 05, 3:30 PM Zack223: it has a HOPy Sep 05, 3:30 PM Zack223: on its last effect Sep 05, 3:30 PM Zack223: wouldSWordsoul Sep 05, 3:30 PM Zack223: be a thier -0 Sratagay Sep 05, 3:30 PM Zack223: if oit had that card Sep 05, 9:06 PM Zack223: What is Power Creep? Sep 05, 9:07 PM Christen57: i don't wanna risk giving you the wrong answer so this article seems to explain power creep a little bit [url:2l9b546x]https://geektyrant.com/news/addressing-one-of-the-biggest-problems-with-yu-gi-oh-powercreep[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 05, 9:08 PM Zack223: Do you like PowCree? Sep 05, 9:09 PM Zack223: Do you like Power Creep? Sep 05, 9:09 PM Christen57: i don't know, not if it messes up the format Sep 05, 9:11 PM Zack223: Do Sep 05, 9:11 PM Zack223: You wanna Sep 05, 9:11 PM Zack223: Know why I give my carsds so many effects Sep 05, 9:12 PM Zack223: power Creep Sep 15, 5:08 PM Zack223: Please Sep 15, 5:09 PM Zack223: Look Sep 15, 5:10 PM Zack223: At these threads Sep 15, 5:15 PM Zack223: hello are u there? Sep 15, 5:15 PM Christen57: ? Sep 15, 6:42 PM Zack223: Please Sep 15, 6:42 PM Zack223: Lookat my Threads Sep 15, 6:43 PM Zack223: Please Just look at the cards and tell me whhat you think Sep 15, 6:43 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408413-tornadus-thundurus-and-landorus-in-yugioh-card-form[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 15, 6:57 PM Zack223: Did u read them Sep 15, 6:57 PM Zack223: Hello? Sep 15, 7:00 PM Christen57: i'm reading them now Sep 15, 7:00 PM Zack223: okay after tell Sep 15, 7:01 PM Zack223: Please Sep 15, 7:02 PM Zack223: Tell me your Sep 15, 7:02 PM Zack223: toughts on them after Sep 15, 7:03 PM Christen57: feathery dance looks like a more broken harpie's feather storm Sep 15, 7:04 PM Christen57: landorus therian is going to lead to broken hand loops and should not be useable on the first or second turn of the duel Sep 15, 7:05 PM Zack223: Feather Strom is not Broken Sep 15, 7:05 PM Zack223: thats a DArk Ruler no more Sep 15, 7:07 PM Christen57: someone already gave you advice on how to fix these [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408413-tornadus-thundurus-and-landorus-in-yugioh-card-form/?do=findComment&comment=7191577[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 15, 7:07 PM Zack223: I alrwady Sep 15, 7:07 PM Zack223: read those Sep 15, 7:09 PM Christen57: the other traps are too generic and powerful, able to be splashed into any deck that corresponds with their type or attribute, and preventing players from responding to them or playing set cards for 2 turns on top of that is too much Sep 15, 7:09 PM Zack223: I hate set crds Sep 15, 7:09 PM Zack223: 2 where in a format Sep 15, 7:09 PM Zack223: that anybody Sep 15, 7:09 PM Zack223: does not care about Set cards Sep 15, 7:09 PM Zack223: Infacrt Sep 15, 7:10 PM Zack223: ItsMonster Sep 15, 7:10 PM Zack223: MonsterMonster Sep 15, 7:10 PM Zack223: MonsterMonster Sep 15, 7:10 PM Christen57: tornadus therian's quick effect to clear the opponent's spells/traps also seems too strong Sep 15, 7:10 PM Zack223: Monster and Monster cards and effects Sep 15, 7:10 PM Zack223: mostly Monster Effects Sep 15, 7:10 PM Christen57: and it has too many immunities, basically immune to battle, monster effects, targeting, and hand effects Sep 15, 7:11 PM Christen57: no monster has that many protections Sep 15, 7:12 PM Zack223: Again Who cares its not iumee to Dark Ruler Sep 15, 7:13 PM Zack223: So whats your problem with these cards its not like their even that Broken Sep 15, 7:13 PM Zack223: Theres ways to pushish People for play them Sep 15, 7:14 PM Zack223: Kiajus Droplets Dark Ruler Trip Tacitle Tanlents, and etc Sep 15, 8:23 PM Zack223: Look Sep 15, 8:24 PM Zack223: at thisThread I made next and Tell me what you think Sep 15, 8:25 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408546-turned-pokemon-into-yugioh-cards[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 15, 8:34 PM Christen57: can you actually, like, balance the previous set of customs you showed first and test them out before jumping straight into another one for me to review? Sep 15, 8:34 PM Zack223: I cant test right now Sep 15, 8:34 PM Zack223: Im still Frozen Sep 15, 8:34 PM Christen57: how many more days? Sep 15, 8:35 PM Zack223: camn yOu please tell me what you thinmk of this Set Sep 15, 8:35 PM Zack223: 6 more The freeze he's referring to here is when he was frozen for at least 2 weeks for encouraging another player to harm himself. [url:2l9b546x]https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=17961[/url:2l9b546x]Sep 15, 8:35 PM Zack223: Just give me your toughts on the cards Sep 15, 8:35 PM Zack223: I also got a Special one for you Sep 15, 8:36 PM Zack223: PLease take a look at it https://i.ibb.co/64GxDxG/05ba406e04dd.jpgSep 15, 8:36 PM Christen57: have you tried reading this guide [url:2l9b546x]https://futuregamer-yugioh.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-pros-guide-to-custom-cards-create.html[/url:2l9b546x] it can help people get better with customs Sep 15, 8:37 PM Zack223: Yeah I have Sep 15, 8:37 PM Christen57: you can't rely solely on me to tell you if every single one of your customs is balanced Sep 15, 8:37 PM Zack223: Just tell me what you think of the cards Sep 15, 8:37 PM Zack223: incuding this one https://i.ibb.co/64GxDxG/05ba406e04dd.jpgSep 15, 8:38 PM Christen57: i don't know what that link is but it's not the link to a custom Sep 15, 8:38 PM Zack223: I mostly Like to Test my cards before I change them Sep 15, 8:38 PM Christen57: it doesn't seem like you read futuregamer's guide because if you did you wouldn't keep making so many of these mistakes Sep 15, 9:08 PM Zack223: I did read his Actcle Sep 15, 9:08 PM Zack223: But now Tell Sep 15, 9:09 PM Zack223: me how balanced Sep 15, 9:09 PM Zack223: My cards are Sep 15, 9:09 PM Zack223: on that thread Sep 15, 9:09 PM Zack223: also just Sep 15, 9:09 PM Zack223: take a look at this Link Sep 15, 9:09 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://i.ibb.co/xm2DPvf/bfb47ea894e6.jpg[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 15, 9:11 PM Christen57: someone already gave a decent review of these so i don't see the need to review them myself [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408546-turned-pokemon-into-yugioh-cards/?do=findComment&comment=7191383[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 15, 9:11 PM Zack223: I stiilwant 1 more Review Sep 15, 9:11 PM Zack223: one last Sep 15, 9:11 PM Zack223: time atleast Sep 15, 9:11 PM Zack223: I want bug you after this Sep 15, 9:12 PM Christen57: i already reviewed the previous archetype Sep 15, 9:12 PM Zack223: You didnt Sep 15, 9:12 PM Zack223: give your Review Sep 15, 9:12 PM Zack223: on the new threadi sent you Sep 15, 9:12 PM Zack223: and the 1 Last link Sep 15, 9:12 PM Christen57: you don't need another review of this archetype, you need to balance it according to what that guy on that forum said Sep 15, 9:12 PM Zack223: which Sep 15, 9:12 PM Zack223: onlyconteins 1 more card Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: But Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: you acttully Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: play RATED Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: which is Competive Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: You Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: have mor Knowgle Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: on Decks Sep 15, 9:13 PM Zack223: I don't Sep 15, 9:14 PM Christen57: like i said you should focus on balancing 1 archetype at a time, like that previous landorus/tornadus/thunderus archetype you presenting, before jumping to a new one Sep 15, 9:15 PM Zack223: Well atleast look at this card then https://i.ibb.co/xm2DPvf/bfb47ea894e6.jpgSep 15, 9:15 PM Christen57: it doesn't matter that i play rated, that guy already gave decent feedback on this new lycanroc archetype, refer to that and balance that Sep 15, 9:15 PM Zack223: come on Sep 15, 9:15 PM Christen57: i don't know what made you think a strictly better effect veiler would be a good idea Sep 15, 9:15 PM Zack223: I want your toughts on it Sep 15, 9:15 PM Zack223: before i make a move Sep 15, 9:15 PM Zack223: atleast Sep 15, 9:16 PM Zack223: I have at;east 3 People Review oit Sep 15, 9:16 PM Zack223: hmmm Better and DStronger tjrn Vailer Sep 15, 9:16 PM Zack223: okay think Im gonna have to fix that Sep 15, 9:17 PM Zack223: So Sep 15, 9:17 PM Zack223: what do you think of the Fusion Monster? Sep 15, 9:17 PM Christen57: if 3 people already gave reviews of it, focus on those reviews for now and balance it Sep 15, 9:17 PM Zack223: no Sep 15, 9:17 PM Zack223: I want Sep 15, 9:18 PM Zack223: your Review Sep 15, 9:18 PM Zack223: on the Monsters Sep 15, 9:18 PM Christen57: the main problem is either you make your cards too generic, you make them do too much, or both Sep 15, 9:18 PM Zack223: and Fusion Spell Sep 15, 9:19 PM Zack223: Just give me your Review Sep 15, 9:20 PM Zack223: on them Sep 15, 9:20 PM Christen57: the fusion monster and fusion spell have grammar mistakes too Sep 15, 9:21 PM Zack223: Okay Sep 15, 9:21 PM Zack223: Fusion Spell Sep 15, 9:21 PM Zack223: Protects Dragoon and winda El Shaddollagist Kaijus Sep 15, 9:22 PM Zack223: Is the Fusion mnster OP? Sep 15, 9:25 PM Christen57: both the fusion monster and the quick-play spell can summon using hand/grave/banished materials Sep 15, 9:25 PM Zack223: Its Sep 15, 9:25 PM Zack223: Tunder Dragon Fudsion Sep 15, 9:25 PM Zack223: but Fir DARKs Sep 15, 9:25 PM Zack223: also Stops Kaijus Sep 15, 9:25 PM Zack223: thats what the 2nd effect is for Sep 15, 9:26 PM Christen57: actually i don't think it would stop kaijus due to how it's worded Sep 15, 9:26 PM Zack223: I love THunder Dragon Fusion Sep 15, 9:26 PM Zack223: Reclye Reclye Rec;ye Sep 15, 9:26 PM Zack223: how would I need to world it? Sep 15, 9:28 PM Christen57: like just make it so the monster it fusion summons can't be tributed? Sep 15, 9:28 PM Zack223: Okay? Sep 15, 9:29 PM Zack223: But I still want GY to prevent my Other DARK Fusions from being Tirbuted Sep 15, 9:31 PM Christen57: also, now that we have verte anaconda running around you need to be extra careful how you design "fusion" spells Sep 15, 9:31 PM Zack223: Why? Sep 15, 9:31 PM Zack223: what could happen alo I think there Goona baned the Card soon? Sep 15, 9:33 PM Christen57: i don't know yet. for now, try testing the cards in solo mode and nerfing anything too strong Sep 15, 9:33 PM Zack223: Hey Sep 15, 9:33 PM Zack223: How Sep 15, 9:33 PM Zack223: would Sep 15, 9:33 PM Zack223: I word the 2nd effect Sep 15, 9:33 PM Zack223: to Prevent Tributing? Sep 15, 9:34 PM Christen57: i don't know. i would really just make it so the fusion summoned monster can't be tributed Sep 15, 9:34 PM Christen57: making all your monsters tribute-proof anyways could be broken Sep 15, 9:34 PM Zack223: no Sep 15, 9:34 PM Christen57: on top of all the other things they do and how easy they are to summon Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: Soyou need to banish Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: so ten Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: if your opponey Tributes Dragoon Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: you banish Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: the Spell instead Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: and Keep Sep 15, 9:35 PM Zack223: the Kaiju Sep 15, 9:35 PM Christen57: and then they could just attempt to use the kaiju again since it isn't hard once per turn Sep 15, 9:36 PM Zack223: I know that Sep 15, 9:36 PM Zack223: but thers a caluse Sep 15, 9:36 PM Zack223: eithKaijus Sep 15, 9:36 PM Zack223: where there can only be 1 Sep 15, 9:36 PM Zack223: of them Sep 15, 9:36 PM Christen57: also lycanrok dusk looks like it can be abused in adamancipator Sep 15, 9:36 PM Zack223: Yeah\ Sep 15, 9:38 PM Zack223: thats what I made him for Sep 17, 1:49 PM Zack223: Yo Sep 17, 1:50 PM Zack223: Why would Ltcanroc Dusk Sep 17, 1:50 PM Zack223: Be abused in adamancitpaters? Sep 17, 1:50 PM Zack223: Please tell me? Sep 17, 1:51 PM Christen57: it's a generic level 6 rock that special summons itself and searches and dumps any rock Sep 17, 1:52 PM Zack223: And Sep 17, 1:52 PM Zack223: How could that be broken? Sep 17, 1:52 PM Christen57: because it does too much Sep 17, 1:52 PM Zack223: No it doesn't Sep 17, 1:52 PM Zack223: Proof it? Sep 17, 1:53 PM Zack223: Explain a combo Sep 17, 1:53 PM Zack223: You can do with this card? Sep 17, 1:55 PM Christen57: it specials itself for free, adds a rock from the deck, brings back a rock from the deck, and can dump a rock Sep 17, 1:55 PM Zack223: I said explain a combo Sep 17, 1:55 PM Zack223: It can do in that Deck? Sep 17, 1:56 PM Zack223: And what boards they can end on by using it? Sep 17, 1:57 PM Christen57: it's a powerful extended in adamancipator since it can be searched with gallant granite, then it can search adamancipator researcher, which can special summon itself, then get you potentially another rock monster, then you can make synchros and xyz and link monsters Sep 17, 1:57 PM Christen57: *extender Sep 17, 1:57 PM Zack223: Tell me what end borads Sep 17, 1:57 PM Zack223: This Lycanroc Sep 17, 1:57 PM Zack223: Dusk Sep 17, 1:58 PM Zack223: Can end their borada on? Sep 17, 1:58 PM Christen57: it can search adamancipator researcher which can special summon itself, then you can make any level 8 synchro Sep 17, 1:59 PM Christen57: and each of those can also bring out other rocks Sep 17, 1:59 PM Zack223: Give me some names? Sep 17, 1:59 PM Christen57: names of what Sep 17, 1:59 PM Zack223: Nvm Sep 17, 1:59 PM Zack223: What Sep 17, 2:00 PM Zack223: If we pair Landorus and Block Dragon together? Sep 17, 2:00 PM Zack223: In that Deck? Sep 17, 2:06 PM Zack223: Is Dracovish balanced? Sep 17, 2:08 PM Christen57: i don't know. it's hard to balance cards that support entire specific types and attributes Sep 17, 2:08 PM Zack223: They Sep 17, 2:08 PM Zack223: Support Sep 17, 2:08 PM Zack223: Different Sep 17, 2:08 PM Zack223: Types and attributes Sep 17, 2:08 PM Zack223: So Sep 17, 2:08 PM Zack223: Is it balanced read his effect? Sep 17, 2:10 PM Christen57: i guess it does Sep 17, 2:10 PM Christen57: i mean, i guess it looks balanced Sep 17, 2:10 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408546-turned-pokemon-into-yugioh-cards/?tab=comments#comment-7191354[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 17, 2:10 PM Zack223: What about Zeraora? Sep 17, 2:12 PM Christen57: it should not be able to get rid of the opponent's hand on the first or second turn of the duel Sep 17, 2:13 PM Zack223: Why? Sep 17, 2:13 PM Zack223: It has a petty harsh cost? Sep 17, 2:14 PM Christen57: so does topologic gumblar dragon and that's banned because being able to rip stuff out of your opponent's hand especially on the first turn is too powerful Sep 17, 2:14 PM Zack223: We barely have those kind of effects in the game Sep 17, 2:14 PM Christen57: also, since it requires you to banish as cost, it can be abused further in decks that benefit from being banished like thunder dragon Sep 17, 2:15 PM Christen57: cost isn't harsh enough in my opinion Sep 17, 2:15 PM Zack223: So what combos can you do Sep 17, 2:15 PM Zack223: With Zeraroa in Thunder Dragons Sep 17, 2:15 PM Zack223: + Thunderus Sep 17, 2:16 PM Christen57: not just thunder dragons, any deck that benefits from banishing it's own cards Sep 17, 2:16 PM Zack223: What Decks? Sep 17, 2:17 PM Christen57: decks like thunder dragon and shiranui, just special summoning it for free and trading your own cards to see your opponent's hand and get rid of 3 of their best cards is too broken Sep 17, 2:18 PM Zack223: No it's not Sep 17, 2:18 PM Zack223: It's only 3 Sep 17, 2:20 PM Christen57: cards that get rid of less cards in the opponent's hand have been banned. Sep 17, 2:20 PM Zack223: Okay fine Sep 17, 2:20 PM Zack223: Lycanroc Dusk is balanced Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: Rocks Suck Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: Without Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: Block Dragon Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: So why not give them better support? Sep 17, 2:26 PM Christen57: a level 6 that special summons itself, searches, revives, and dumps is too strong and abusable Sep 17, 2:26 PM Zack223: Come on Lycanroc is not that broken is it? Sep 17, 2:27 PM Zack223: How!?! Sep 17, 2:27 PM Christen57: the dumping is great since it can dump revival golem which will special summon itself Sep 17, 2:27 PM Zack223: It's a Rock monster Sep 17, 2:27 PM Zack223: Oh Sep 17, 2:27 PM Christen57: the adding is great since it can search adamancipators which can special summon themselves Sep 17, 2:27 PM Christen57: and it brings back another rock from the grave giving you an additional synchro/link material Sep 17, 2:28 PM Zack223: Anything else it can do? Sep 17, 2:28 PM Christen57: it's a 1 card link 4 Sep 17, 2:28 PM Christen57: you special summon it for free Sep 17, 2:28 PM Christen57: search adamancipator researcher Sep 17, 2:28 PM Christen57: special summon researcher Sep 17, 2:28 PM Christen57: use them both to make halqifibrax Sep 17, 2:28 PM Christen57: halifibrax brings out another tuner from the deck Sep 17, 2:29 PM Christen57: lycanroc dumps revival golem which specials itself Sep 17, 2:29 PM Christen57: now you have halqifibrax, a tuner, and revival golem to make a link-4 with Sep 17, 2:29 PM Zack223: What Sep 17, 2:29 PM Christen57: and this is all without using your normal summon Sep 17, 2:29 PM Zack223: Link Sep 17, 2:29 PM Zack223: 4 Sep 17, 2:29 PM Zack223: Could you make Sep 17, 2:29 PM Christen57: there are a bunch of link-4s you can go into like apollousa Sep 17, 2:29 PM Zack223: Appoluusa with 3 negates? Sep 17, 2:30 PM Christen57: yes, all with 1 card and without using your normal summon Sep 17, 2:30 PM Zack223: Would you play this Deck if this card where real? Sep 17, 2:30 PM Christen57: any time you make powerful support for specific types you need to look at as many of the monsters of that type as you can to get an idea of what combos you could do with those Sep 17, 2:32 PM Zack223: Yeah Lycanroc Dusk perfectly balanced lol Sep 17, 2:33 PM Zack223: I'll fix it Sep 17, 2:34 PM Christen57: otherwise you end up making silly/broken stuff like this and you never know since you don't bother checking the possible cards it could be combo'd with Sep 17, 2:34 PM Christen57: and you will think it's balanced, never really knowing it's not since you didn't check Sep 17, 2:35 PM Zack223: I'm not an expert like you? Sep 17, 2:35 PM Zack223: How Imma suppose to know Sep 17, 2:35 PM Christen57: if you know you're not an expert, stop arguing with other people every time they point out these kinds of flaws in your customs Sep 17, 2:36 PM Christen57: and just fix them and learn from your mistakes Sep 17, 2:36 PM Zack223: Okay Sep 17, 2:37 PM Zack223: Just 1 question Sep 17, 2:37 PM Zack223: Would you Sep 17, 2:37 PM Zack223: Play adamancitpers Sep 17, 2:37 PM Zack223: If Sep 17, 2:37 PM Zack223: Lycanric Dusk Sep 17, 2:37 PM Zack223: Existed? Sep 17, 2:42 PM Zack223: You didn't answer my question? Sep 17, 2:43 PM Christen57: i don't know what i'd play Sep 17, 2:43 PM Christen57: but i would bet people would be Sep 17, 2:43 PM Zack223: Why wouldn't you? Sep 17, 2:44 PM Christen57: i didn't say i wouldn't, i just say i don't know what i'd play Sep 17, 2:44 PM Zack223: Okay Sep 17, 2:45 PM Zack223: Check out this cars made Sep 17, 2:45 PM Zack223: https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=2617597 Sep 17, 2:46 PM Zack223: Tell me what you think of it? Sep 17, 2:51 PM Christen57: also broken due to how it's worded. so if i summon sky striker ace raye, i can go into either the earth, water, fire, or wind sky striker link-1, then play this and go into any link monster i want with that same attribute or link rating? Sep 17, 2:52 PM Zack223: Has Sep 17, 2:52 PM Christen57: or if i summon any zoodiac monster, i can go into any of the zoodiac xyzs and then go into any rank 4 or earth or beast-warrior i want? Sep 17, 2:52 PM Zack223: To have Sep 17, 2:52 PM Zack223: The same Sep 17, 2:52 PM Zack223: Link rating Sep 17, 2:52 PM Zack223: Yes Sep 17, 2:53 PM Christen57: due to how it's worded, it just has to have either the same link rating, type, or attribute, it doesn't have to match all 3 of these, just 1 of them Sep 17, 2:53 PM Zack223: Go inbetween any link 1 with either the same type or attribute Sep 17, 2:54 PM Zack223: Well Its supposed that be same link rating Sep 17, 2:54 PM Zack223: Only Type or Attribute Sep 17, 2:54 PM Zack223: Can be shifted Sep 17, 5:27 PM Zack223: Yo Sep 17, 5:50 PM Zack223: Hey Sep 20, 5:32 PM Zack223: Check out this new archetype I made Sep 20, 5:47 PM Zack223: Hello? Sep 20, 5:47 PM Christen57: ? Sep 20, 5:48 PM Zack223: Look Sep 20, 5:48 PM Zack223: At this s archetype imadd Sep 20, 5:48 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408845-bermuda-idol-archetype/?tab=comments#comment-7191775[/url:2l9b546x] Now, this Bermuda archetype seemed to be designed better than his previous cards/archetypes, as I didn't really notice anything that appeared too strong, so this shows that Zack is willing to accept criticism, learn, and get better at balancing and designing customs slowly but surely so I've still got faith in him and patience to spare.Sep 20, 5:50 PM Zack223: So any thoughts? Sep 20, 5:53 PM Christen57: so far i'm worried spectacular luxury might be too strong, giving you 2 free draws and automatically changing the opponent's extra deck monsters face-down Sep 20, 5:53 PM Christen57: i'm not sure about the rest Sep 22, 11:35 AM Zack223: Hey Sep 22, 11:35 AM Zack223: Chris Sep 22, 11:35 AM Zack223: Please look at THis thread Sep 22, 11:35 AM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.cardmaker.net/forums/topic/408845-bermuda-idol-archetype/[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 22, 11:38 AM Christen57: pretty sure you showed me this archetype already. i have no extra feedback to give at this time Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: Look Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: at this Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: you didnt Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: Lookat it Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: or itsCoomets Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: Yetlook Sep 22, 11:39 AM Zack223: at the Thread and the commets Sep 22, 4:47 PM Zack223: Hey Sep 22, 4:47 PM Zack223: Watch this Sep 22, 4:47 PM Zack223: Replay Sep 22, 4:48 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=731601-32144500[/url:2l9b546x] Sep 22, 4:51 PM Zack223: Did Sep 22, 4:51 PM Zack223: U see it Sep 23, 12:10 PM Zack223: Mystic Mine is balanced Sep 23, 12:10 PM Zack223: And says FUCK YOU Fuffals! Sep 23, 12:10 PM Zack223: No Sep 23, 12:11 PM Zack223: I'm just joking about that last part Sep 23, 12:11 PM Zack223: The fuffal one Sep 26, 6:39 PM Zack223: Lrets Sep 26, 6:39 PM Zack223: DuelChris Sep 26, 6:39 PM Zack223: Lets duel Sep 26, 6:40 PM Christen57: i don't think i can duel at the moment Sep 26, 6:40 PM Zack223: K Sep 26, 7:42 PM Zack223: Okay Sep 26, 7:42 PM Zack223: LetsDuel now Sep 26, 7:42 PM Zack223: I weant t9o Test Sep 26, 7:43 PM Zack223: My New Ritual Sep 26, 8:38 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=731601-32269525[/url:2l9b546x] One thing to note here is that Zack has another generic "Ace Card" xyz monster to go along with the xyz monster he played in this duel, a monster which basically disallows all hand effects such as any hand traps. He didn't play that other monster in this particular duel since the opponent quit before Zack brought it out, but it's this: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=2295660[/url:2l9b546x]
 Oct 02, 5:09 PM Zack223: Is this hand trap to powerful? Oct 02, 5:10 PM Zack223: https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=2697226 Oct 02, 5:11 PM Christen57: a more broken version of called by the grave? Oct 02, 5:11 PM Zack223: How bout it's 2nd effect Oct 02, 5:12 PM Zack223: This card HATES FUCKING Sky Strikers Oct 02, 5:12 PM Christen57: i don't know about that Oct 02, 5:12 PM Christen57: i usually judge the card as a whole, not just 1 effect of the card Oct 02, 5:12 PM Zack223: Why is it broken? Oct 02, 5:13 PM Christen57: i just said it's a better called by the grave Oct 02, 5:13 PM Christen57: and called by the grave is limited Oct 02, 5:13 PM Zack223: And who cares I hate hand traps Oct 02, 5:14 PM Zack223: Like Maxx c Oct 02, 5:14 PM Zack223: And called by the grave is at 2 in the ocg Oct 04, 12:29 PM Zack223: Let's duel Oct 04, 12:40 PM Christen57: sorry i was busy Oct 04, 12:41 PM Zack223: Still? Oct 04, 12:42 PM Christen57: ok Oct 04, 12:43 PM Christen57: you wanna host? Oct 04, 12:43 PM Zack223: Yes Oct 04, 12:43 PM Zack223: Okay Oct 04, 12:43 PM Zack223: Come I'm hosting Oct 04, 5:16 PM Zack223: My parents interpreted our duel Oct 04, 5:16 PM Zack223: We didn't even get to finish it Oct 04, 5:16 PM Zack223: Cause I had to fucking let's fo Oct 04, 5:16 PM Zack223: I mean go Oct 04, 5:17 PM Zack223: Can we have a reamatch Oct 04, 5:22 PM Zack223: Let's duel Oct 04, 5:29 PM Christen57: not yet Oct 04, 5:29 PM Zack223: When Oct 04, 5:31 PM Zack223: Then? Oct 04, 5:33 PM Christen57: i'm not giving a "when" just, when i'm ready Oct 04, 5:33 PM Christen57: i'm having dinner at the moment Oct 04, 5:33 PM Zack223: Okay Oct 04, 6:16 PM Zack223: Are u still eating? Oct 04, 6:19 PM Zack223: Are u still eating? Oct 04, 7:03 PM Zack223: Rematch pls Oct 04, 7:06 PM Christen57: ok hold on Oct 04, 7:09 PM Christen57: i'm ready Oct 04, 7:10 PM Christen57: you can hold Oct 04, 7:10 PM Christen57: host Oct 04, 7:11 PM Zack223: Okay Oct 04, 7:11 PM Zack223: Wait Oct 04, 7:12 PM Zack223: Gg Oct 04, 7:12 PM Zack223: Okay Oct 04, 7:12 PM Zack223: Im hosting Oct 06, 9:25 PM Zack223: Watch Oct 06, 9:25 PM Zack223: this Replay Oct 06, 9:25 PM Zack223: and tell me what you think of it Oct 06, 9:25 PM Zack223: [url:2l9b546x]https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=731601-32577712[/url:2l9b546x] Oct 06, 9:27 PM Christen57: block dragon is banned Oct 06, 9:27 PM Zack223: THIS IS THE OCG! Oct 06, 9:27 PM Zack223: I dont Play TCG Oct 06, 9:27 PM Zack223: thats only TCG Oct 06, 9:27 PM Zack223: its at 3 in the OCG Here, it's replays like these that begin to make me lose faith in Zack. Earlier, on September 17, he couldn't understand how his lycanroc card could possibly be abused in a rock combo archetype like Adamancipator, I try to explain it to him, and we end up arguing about it back and forth. He finally says, and I quote, "I'll fix it" but as you can see, on October 6, more than 2 weeks later, he still hasn't fixed it and is still dueling in customs with it.
Another issue is that the reason he made these abusable rock monsters to begin with is because, and I quote:
Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: Rocks Suck
Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: Without
Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: Block Dragon
Sep 17, 2:21 PM Zack223: So why not give them better support?
The only problem with this is that Zack already made it clear that he likes to stick to the OCG format and banlist, and both Block Dragon and Jet Synchron are unlimited in the OCG and have been that way for years, meaning Adamancipators do have full access to both of them and have been doing super well in the TCG when they had both of them there, meaning Zack's been giving the wrong archetype the wrong support for the wrong reasons.Oct 06, 9:27 PM Christen57: i forgot Oct 06, 9:28 PM Zack223: NP Oct 06, 9:28 PM Zack223: So Oct 06, 9:28 PM Zack223: didyou like Oct 06, 9:28 PM Zack223: the OCG Oct 06, 9:28 PM Zack223: Replay Oct 06, 9:28 PM Christen57: still, since most people here seem to play by tcg banlist, it may help to let opponent's know that you're playing by ocg banlist in your duel notes Oct 06, 9:29 PM Zack223: Okay Oct 06, 9:29 PM Zack223: what Oct 06, 9:29 PM Zack223: did you think Oct 06, 9:29 PM Zack223: of My Minors Oct 06, 9:29 PM Zack223: where they good or where they good? Oct 06, 9:31 PM Zack223: Hey whta did you think of my Minior egine? Oct 06, 9:31 PM Zack223: please awnser? Oct 06, 9:32 PM Christen57: they seem to do too much Oct 06, 9:32 PM Zack223: There Oct 06, 9:32 PM Zack223: like the Brave Token gine Oct 06, 9:32 PM Zack223: There Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: like Prank Kid's Brave Token egine Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: but for Adamancpaters Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: Minior egine Oct 06, 9:33 PM Christen57: they're both disruptions and extenders at the same time Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: Best Engine Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: They Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: can only Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: use 1 effect Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: per turn Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: and only Oct 06, 9:33 PM Zack223: once that turn Oct 06, 9:34 PM Christen57: so you can use their disruption effects on the opponent's turn and their extend effects on your turn Oct 06, 9:34 PM Zack223: Yes Oct 06, 9:34 PM Zack223: at first Oct 06, 9:34 PM Zack223: the Minoors Oct 06, 9:34 PM Zack223: wherea Dispontmrent Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: cause they bricked Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: my handtill I invinted Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: thatFoolish Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: Burialcard Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: for thier Achetype Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: it lets me sed up to 6 with diifent Attrubutes Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: from my Dck to the GY Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: thats how Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: they where able to Oct 06, 9:35 PM Zack223: become such Oct 06, 9:36 PM Zack223: a poenittheatng engine Oct 06, 9:39 PM Zack223: Wanna Oct 06, 9:39 PM Zack223: see the Card Oct 06, 9:39 PM Zack223: that Breaks minors Oct 06, 9:39 PM Zack223: that make them pop off Oct 06, 9:40 PM Zack223: Here Oct 06, 9:40 PM Zack223: Look[url:2l9b546x]https://i.ibb.co/7JRtW5R/81ec080603d2.jpg[/url:2l9b546x] Zack223 is offline I think you can all now see the pattern here. Multiple times during our conversations, he shows me some of his customs, I point out that others have already given good enough feedback on them and that he should look at those and make the appropriate adjustments to his customs, he says he still wants my feedback first then he'll fix his customs, I give him any additional feedback I can, and then weeks go by and he still doesn't fix his customs.
It's not even just in our conversations I started noticing this. I saw this happen in other threads on this forum.
[url:2l9b546x]https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17373[/url:2l9b546x] Here he posts an archetype, 2 people take the time to review it and give feedback, and then out of nowhere he randomly calls out James for additional feedback, ignoring the 2 valuable pieces of feedback he just got from those 2 people.
[url:2l9b546x]https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=16120[/url:2l9b546x] Here it happens again. He posts an archetype, at least 3 people take the time to review it and give valuable feedback, and instead of accepting their feedback and spending the next 2-3 hours fixing his customs, Zack spends the next 2-3 days just fishing for more feedback and chasing specific people at random like CrystalMusic and Rocket2 for more feedback, still not accepting the feedback already given to him, and he still doesn't fix those customs, and should CrystalMusic and Rocket2 actually do step in and give feedback, he'd probably just find someone else to chase after for even more feedback and still not fix his customs.
Also if you have to limit or even semi-limit your own customs, that's a sign they were designed poorly and should just be fixed so they aren't broken and need no limit/semi-limit.
Zack kept telling me he's read Futuregamer's custom card guide, but I'm finding that hard to believe since he keeps repeating mistakes that Futuregamer went over in his guide. Zack makes semi-generic powerful cards designed to support specifc types and attributes, like his strong wyrm synchros that can be brought out with any wyrms, or these strong rock support cards any rock deck can abuse, even though Futuregamer covered in the guide that you have to be careful with any card's power the more generic you make it. |
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[quote="greg503":2wjn6vvl][quote="Christen57":2wjn6vvl][quote="greg503":2wjn6vvl]Sorry, I thought you cared about other people's opinions when you made this thread.[/quote:2wjn6vvl]
Shut up Foggot and Go AWAY!