Yu-Gi-Oh! » Forbidden/Limited List Discussions

Forbidden:
Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon, Predaplant Anaconda, or Red-Eyes Fusion
Crystron Halqlifibax/Needlefiber WTF you wanna call it

Limited:
True King of All Calamities/Very Funny Dragon
Ancient Fairy Dragon
Linkross
Number S0: Utopic Zexal
Union Carrier

AFD makes Field Spell OP lol, this is (mostly) what ABC players want

unoin can come back if buster sword and other cards like it get banned and vfd is just dumb so is zexal and cross and anything like that is no even without needle which we have seen when its ashed so any link 2 can turn into a average halq combo with cross fairy maybe i havent seen the card played and just banning dragoon or fusion works

Where does Union Carrier say the word "union" in its text?

This banlist hurts my eyes.

[quote="JaydenYuki:3":27m998o3]This banlist hurts my eyes.[/quote:27m998o3]

His signature hurts my eyes.

[quote="PENMASTER":1o79bwaf]unoin can come back if buster sword and other cards like it get banned and vfd is just dumb so is zexal and cross and anything like that is no even without needle which we have seen when its ashed so any link 2 can turn into a average halq combo with cross fairy maybe i havent seen the card played and just banning dragoon or fusion works[/quote:1o79bwaf]
Union Carrier SHOULD NOT come back, because it will create an instance in the future where cards like Buster Sword become a problem.

Ban all cards not in Duel Links. You're welcome.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1vpp2key][quote="PENMASTER":1vpp2key]unoin can come back if buster sword and other cards like it get banned and vfd is just dumb so is zexal and cross and anything like that is no even without needle which we have seen when its ashed so any link 2 can turn into a average halq combo with cross fairy maybe i havent seen the card played and just banning dragoon or fusion works[/quote:1vpp2key]
Union Carrier SHOULD NOT come back, because it will create an instance in the future where cards like Buster Sword become a problem.[/quote:1vpp2key]
you got a point but they can also never make things like buster ever again like the Blackwing that can "Syncro" from gy

[quote="PENMASTER":3hqke81n][quote="Renji Asuka":3hqke81n][quote="PENMASTER":3hqke81n]unoin can come back if buster sword and other cards like it get banned and vfd is just dumb so is zexal and cross and anything like that is no even without needle which we have seen when its ashed so any link 2 can turn into a average halq combo with cross fairy maybe i havent seen the card played and just banning dragoon or fusion works[/quote:3hqke81n]
Union Carrier SHOULD NOT come back, because it will create an instance in the future where cards like Buster Sword become a problem.[/quote:3hqke81n]
you got a point but they can also never make things like buster ever again like the Blackwing that can "Syncro" from gy[/quote:3hqke81n]
Problem is, it limits creation of cards if they don't. You also don't know how newer cards can interact with older cards.

[quote="Renji Asuka":38x6yji6][quote="PENMASTER":38x6yji6][quote="Renji Asuka":38x6yji6]
Union Carrier SHOULD NOT come back, because it will create an instance in the future where cards like Buster Sword become a problem.[/quote:38x6yji6]
you got a point but they can also never make things like buster ever again like the Blackwing that can "Syncro" from gy[/quote:38x6yji6]
Problem is, it limits creation of cards if they don't. You also don't know how newer cards can interact with older cards.[/quote:38x6yji6]
yea but cards like buster shouldn't exist anyway honestly they should both be banned now with our convo and cards like them both should have heavy restrictions and cards like buster are a plain no

[quote="PENMASTER":3mzd7ejl][quote="Renji Asuka":3mzd7ejl][quote="PENMASTER":3mzd7ejl]
you got a point but they can also never make things like buster ever again like the Blackwing that can "Syncro" from gy[/quote:3mzd7ejl]
Problem is, it limits creation of cards if they don't. You also don't know how newer cards can interact with older cards.[/quote:3mzd7ejl]
yea but cards like buster shouldn't exist anyway honestly they should both be banned now with our convo and cards like them both should have heavy restrictions and cards like buster are a plain no[/quote:3mzd7ejl]
Buster Dragon is fine, when only Buster Blader could play it.

Then YEARS LATER, Konami prints Union Carrier, which caused Buster Dragon to be powerful.

Its the same issue of why Metaverse should be hit instead of Mystic Mine when that was at its peak. (Which I advocated for and was laughed at, and I was right when Metaverse did get hit.)

[quote="Renji Asuka":2ikbu78u][quote="PENMASTER":2ikbu78u][quote="Renji Asuka":2ikbu78u]
Problem is, it limits creation of cards if they don't. You also don't know how newer cards can interact with older cards.[/quote:2ikbu78u]
yea but cards like buster shouldn't exist anyway honestly they should both be banned now with our convo and cards like them both should have heavy restrictions and cards like buster are a plain no[/quote:2ikbu78u]
Buster Dragon is fine, when only Buster Blader could play it.

Then YEARS LATER, Konami prints Union Carrier, which caused Buster Dragon to be powerful.

Its the same issue of why Metaverse should be hit instead of Mystic Mine when that was at its peak. (Which I advocated for and was laughed at, and I was right when Metaverse did get hit.)[/quote:2ikbu78u]
yea like you said with how new cards interact with older ones and mine should be hit so field spell decks could be good a lot of things in this game have been hit to keep the problem card in check before mine metaverse and terraforming were at 3 i believe so yea just banning is a good solution and buster can stay banned to they shouldn't make a card like that in the first place both union and buster are problem cards and there will always be something to abuse them no matter what

[quote="PENMASTER":rw5zb4hg]unoin can come back if buster sword and other cards like it get banned[/quote:rw5zb4hg]

[quote="PENMASTER":rw5zb4hg]
yea like you said with how new cards interact with older ones and mine should be hit so field spell decks could be good a lot of things in this game have been hit to keep the problem card in check before mine metaverse and terraforming were at 3 i believe so yea just banning is a good solution and buster can stay banned to they shouldn't make a card like that in the first place both union and buster are problem cards and there will always be something to abuse them no matter what[/quote:rw5zb4hg]

This is one of the dumbest takes I've seen. It's about design space and cards that limit design space. If you have to worry about every single card you make going forward because Union carrier could break it, then why should union carrier not be banned going forward? Buster dragon simply wasn't a problem until union let it leak outside it's archetype. Only union carrier should be banned, not both. Nor should cards be banned so union carrier can stay.

thats the thing if you have one card which can use a good archetype equip from deck on any monster, for the most part, its a problem its not about checking it to not be used by carrier its to balance anything that has a similar effect and welp is a card that can be abused by cards like that even without union they have a way welp and union are problems just cause dragonlink has to go through a few more steps don't mean its ok to be in the game the reason the monarch field spell ain't banned is it's heavily restricted and can only be played in monarchs or similar decks and it gets rid of your extra i mean really man only buster blader players could want welp back and like buster needed a new lock outside of its buster dragon and blader fusion monster lock buster is still good without it. tldr they both should be banned due to how they are abused today and before aswell as the future and anything like them and all decks that used them are just fine

[quote="PENMASTER":3rut7ve8]thats the thing if you have one card which can use a good archetype equip from deck on any monster, for the most part, its a problem its not about checking it to not be used by carrier its to balance anything that has a similar effect and welp is a card that can be abused by cards like that even without union they have a way welp and union are problems just cause dragonlink has to go through a few more steps don't mean its ok to be in the game the reason the monarch field spell ain't banned is it's heavily restricted and can only be played in monarchs or similar decks and it gets rid of your extra i mean really man only buster blader players could want welp back and like buster needed a new lock outside of its buster dragon and blader fusion monster lock buster is still good without it. tldr they both should be banned due to how they are abused today and before aswell as the future and anything like them and all decks that used them are just fine[/quote:3rut7ve8]
For years with Dragon Buster being out, it was NEVER an issue. That is until Union Carrier CHANGED that. That is why Union Carrier is the problem.

[quote="PENMASTER":1x1c7mlh]thats the thing if you have one card which can use a good archetype equip from deck on any monster, for the most part, its a problem its not about checking it to not be used by carrier its to balance anything that has a similar effect and welp is a card that can be abused by cards like that even without union they have a way welp and union are problems just cause dragonlink has to go through a few more steps don't mean its ok to be in the game the reason the monarch field spell ain't banned is it's heavily restricted and can only be played in monarchs or similar decks and it gets rid of your extra i mean really man only buster blader players could want welp back and like buster needed a new lock outside of its buster dragon and blader fusion monster lock buster is still good without it. tldr they both should be banned due to how they are abused today and before aswell as the future and anything like them and all decks that used them are just fine[/quote:1x1c7mlh]

Your argument is nonsensical. You're basically trying to argue that buster should be rebanned just incase they make another union carrier. What are these cards that can currently use, let alone abuse, buster outside it's archetype? There's cyberdarks which are shit and Dragunity Arma Leyvaten. The fact that the monarch field spell isn't banned should tell you that maybe stopping extra deck access is fine when contained within its archetype.

[quote="Renji Asuka":36beises][quote="PENMASTER":36beises]thats the thing if you have one card which can use a good archetype equip from deck on any monster, for the most part, its a problem its not about checking it to not be used by carrier its to balance anything that has a similar effect and welp is a card that can be abused by cards like that even without union they have a way welp and union are problems just cause dragonlink has to go through a few more steps don't mean its ok to be in the game the reason the monarch field spell ain't banned is it's heavily restricted and can only be played in monarchs or similar decks and it gets rid of your extra i mean really man only buster blader players could want welp back and like buster needed a new lock outside of its buster dragon and blader fusion monster lock buster is still good without it. tldr they both should be banned due to how they are abused today and before aswell as the future and anything like them and all decks that used them are just fine[/quote:36beises]
For years with Dragon Buster being out, it was NEVER an issue. That is until Union Carrier CHANGED that. That is why Union Carrier is the problem.[/quote:36beises]
smoke grenade of the thief would like a word with you

[quote="PENMASTER":1g7xbppk][quote="Renji Asuka":1g7xbppk][quote="PENMASTER":1g7xbppk]thats the thing if you have one card which can use a good archetype equip from deck on any monster, for the most part, its a problem its not about checking it to not be used by carrier its to balance anything that has a similar effect and welp is a card that can be abused by cards like that even without union they have a way welp and union are problems just cause dragonlink has to go through a few more steps don't mean its ok to be in the game the reason the monarch field spell ain't banned is it's heavily restricted and can only be played in monarchs or similar decks and it gets rid of your extra i mean really man only buster blader players could want welp back and like buster needed a new lock outside of its buster dragon and blader fusion monster lock buster is still good without it. tldr they both should be banned due to how they are abused today and before aswell as the future and anything like them and all decks that used them are just fine[/quote:1g7xbppk]
For years with Dragon Buster being out, it was NEVER an issue. That is until Union Carrier CHANGED that. That is why Union Carrier is the problem.[/quote:1g7xbppk]
smoke grenade of the thief would like a word with you[/quote:1g7xbppk]
That card has NOTHING to do with Dragon Buster and Union Carrier. That card saw play because of Fire Warrior/Ignoble Knights.

DMZ Dragon would like a word with you

Is DMZ even good?

I'd like to see what board states can be made with dmz dragon and how consistent those are with it before passing judgement. All uses of dmz dragon on ygoscope are from 1 dude playing dragunity without buster.

I mean you can just go Creature Swap after TER to equip Dragon Buster, but I mean....who wants to do that?

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