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Scenario: You get trapped in a single player only video game of your choice but have no lives remaining in which to beat the game and you cannot earn any extra lives. The only way you can escape that video game is by beating the game, where the staff/credit rolls appear after beating the game, without losing your last life. You have an unlimited amount of time in which to beat the game (no cheat codes, console commands, mods, etc - basically, no cheating of any kind - you must pick a game where losing a life is likely to happen - i included this as a safeguard in case one picks a game where you can never lose a life due to the mechanics of the game)

What game do you pick? And what is your strategy?

Morrowind. Alchemy abuse to infinite stats and steamroll the game.

The Legend of Zelda Ocarina Of Time. I have never had a game over in this game throughout my 22 years that i have played this game. My strategy? simple: focus on getting as many hearts as possible and get all 4 bottles for fairies. the fairies revive me if i lose all my hearts and is therefore not considered an extra life but a reviver. with 20 hearts and 4 fairies im all set.

My true strategy in chronological order is simple: 1: always make sure to have full life, 2: collect as many piece of heart as i can to get as much life energy as possible, 3: get as many bottles as possible to carry fairies in so i can revive myself up to 4 times, 4: after getting the master sword: get epona, 5: after getting epona go get the big-gorons sword as its twice as powerful (not to mention has longer reach) than the master sword, 6: play out the game and win!

Undertale, going true pacifist.

Persona 5 w/ Izanagi-no-Okami

Fire Emblem 8. Pick Eirika's Route during the route split and abuse Seth's usefullness.

Touhou Imperishable night: by far the easiest touhou which I am able to do no death runs.

Skyrim on Legendary Difficulty.

Level up Sneak, become an assassin, use Soul Trap on dead body to level Conjuration, Join the Dark Brotherhood for the free gear for 30x Sneak Attacks to 1 shot everything. Get Dead Thrall and Twin Souls perk. Reanimate Orchendor & that one NPC that spawns an enemy on death.

Then proceed to beat the game after building up enchanting + Alchemy to create a dagger that can do over 1 million damage with the enchants of Chaos Damage & Absorb Health. Then repeat the process with Fortify health into the millions for enchant.

Yay for game mechanics!

[quote="Renji Asuka":18yc6j3o]Skyrim on Legendary Difficulty.

Level up Sneak, become an assassin, use Soul Trap on dead body to level Conjuration, Join the Dark Brotherhood for the free gear for 30x Sneak Attacks to 1 shot everything. Get Dead Thrall and Twin Souls perk. Reanimate Orchendor & that one NPC that spawns an enemy on death.

Then proceed to beat the game after building up enchanting + Alchemy to create a dagger that can do over 1 million damage with the enchants of Chaos Damage & Absorb Health. Then repeat the process with Fortify health into the millions for enchant.

Yay for game mechanics![/quote:18yc6j3o]

doenst sound like losing a life is likely due to how ur abusing the mechanics so you violated the safeguard, nice try tho

[quote="CrystalMusic":1lwkfkdk][quote="Renji Asuka":1lwkfkdk]Skyrim on Legendary Difficulty.

Level up Sneak, become an assassin, use Soul Trap on dead body to level Conjuration, Join the Dark Brotherhood for the free gear for 30x Sneak Attacks to 1 shot everything. Get Dead Thrall and Twin Souls perk. Reanimate Orchendor & that one NPC that spawns an enemy on death.

Then proceed to beat the game after building up enchanting + Alchemy to create a dagger that can do over 1 million damage with the enchants of Chaos Damage & Absorb Health. Then repeat the process with Fortify health into the millions for enchant.

Yay for game mechanics![/quote:1lwkfkdk]

doenst sound like losing a life is likely due to how ur abusing the mechanics so you violated the safeguard, nice try tho[/quote:1lwkfkdk]
Abusing Mechanics? Nah, if it was abusing mechanics (aka exploit) it would had been patched by Bethesda, but it wasn't, therefore its legal. I don't even have to go that extreme because the game on Legendary difficulty is easy as piss. Hell I can run around naked while letting my thralls do everything and not die lol

[quote="Renji Asuka":1v0fqbbj][quote="CrystalMusic":1v0fqbbj][quote="Renji Asuka":1v0fqbbj]Skyrim on Legendary Difficulty.

Level up Sneak, become an assassin, use Soul Trap on dead body to level Conjuration, Join the Dark Brotherhood for the free gear for 30x Sneak Attacks to 1 shot everything. Get Dead Thrall and Twin Souls perk. Reanimate Orchendor & that one NPC that spawns an enemy on death.

Then proceed to beat the game after building up enchanting + Alchemy to create a dagger that can do over 1 million damage with the enchants of Chaos Damage & Absorb Health. Then repeat the process with Fortify health into the millions for enchant.

Yay for game mechanics![/quote:1v0fqbbj]

doenst sound like losing a life is likely due to how ur abusing the mechanics so you violated the safeguard, nice try tho[/quote:1v0fqbbj]
Abusing Mechanics? Nah, if it was abusing mechanics (aka exploit) it would had been patched by Bethesda, but it wasn't, therefore its legal. I don't even have to go that extreme because the game on Legendary difficulty is easy as piss. Hell I can run around naked while letting my thralls do everything and not die lol[/quote:1v0fqbbj]

bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.

[quote="CrystalMusic":jtacyrwn][quote="Renji Asuka":jtacyrwn][quote="CrystalMusic":jtacyrwn]

doenst sound like losing a life is likely due to how ur abusing the mechanics so you violated the safeguard, nice try tho[/quote:jtacyrwn]
Abusing Mechanics? Nah, if it was abusing mechanics (aka exploit) it would had been patched by Bethesda, but it wasn't, therefore its legal. I don't even have to go that extreme because the game on Legendary difficulty is easy as piss. Hell I can run around naked while letting my thralls do everything and not die lol[/quote:jtacyrwn]

bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.[/quote:jtacyrwn]
Let me get this straight, YOU THINK its an exploit to have all those at 100 before finishing "Bleak Falls Barrow"? Am I getting this right?

[quote="Renji Asuka":9opzow9v][quote="CrystalMusic":9opzow9v][quote="Renji Asuka":9opzow9v]
Abusing Mechanics? Nah, if it was abusing mechanics (aka exploit) it would had been patched by Bethesda, but it wasn't, therefore its legal. I don't even have to go that extreme because the game on Legendary difficulty is easy as piss. Hell I can run around naked while letting my thralls do everything and not die lol[/quote:9opzow9v]

bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.[/quote:9opzow9v]
Let me get this straight, YOU THINK its an exploit to have all those at 100 before finishing "Bleak Falls Barrow"? Am I getting this right?[/quote:9opzow9v]

i didnt say that. i said i can get those skills to 100 before getting out of bleak falls barrow. all legitly too, its not to hard when you know what room to do this in and how to do it.

[quote="CrystalMusic":26j1z5uc][quote="Renji Asuka":26j1z5uc][quote="CrystalMusic":26j1z5uc]

bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.[/quote:26j1z5uc]
Let me get this straight, YOU THINK its an exploit to have all those at 100 before finishing "Bleak Falls Barrow"? Am I getting this right?[/quote:26j1z5uc]

i didnt say that. i said i can get those skills to 100 before getting out of bleak falls barrow. all legitly too, its not to hard when you know what room to do this in and how to do it.[/quote:26j1z5uc]
So now you're backpedaling? Your words exactly "bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow""

Now I don't know about anyone else, but from this statement right here you are making the claim that having those skills at 100 before doing Bleak Falls Barrow is an exploit. Especially when you try to use getting the skills to 100 as an example to your claim.

No clue why you're trying to gatekeep this. If anything you broke your own rules of no extra lives and picking a game where death must be likely to occur by picking OoT which is an insanely easy game even when playing it for the first time and went with a strategy where you get effectively get extra lives via fairies.

And here we have a post that on the surface looks like CrystalMusic wants to have an actual conversation, but if we look underneath, we'll find... unsurprisingly, gatekeeping. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

And of course, CrystalMusic can't even have a decent conversation start without his ego getting in the way and making him gatekeep things just so he can make himself look superior.

[quote="Darkraiclone":3h99xuzm]And of course, CrystalMusic can't even have a decent conversation start without his ego getting in the way and making him gatekeep things just so he can make himself look superior.[/quote:3h99xuzm]
You can probably guess that the moment he starts going rhetorical and answering his own questions, like "Why? Simple:".

[quote="CrystalMusic":22ylol3e]Scenario: You get trapped in a single player only video game of your choice but have no lives remaining in which to beat the game and you cannot earn any extra lives. The only way you can escape that video game is by beating the game, where the staff/credit rolls appear after beating the game, without losing your last life. You have an unlimited amount of time in which to beat the game (no cheat codes, console commands, mods, etc - basically, no cheating of any kind - you must pick a game where losing a life is likely to happen - i included this as a safeguard in case one picks a game where you can never lose a life due to the mechanics of the game)

What game do you pick? And what is your strategy?[/quote:22ylol3e]

So I can't pick Minecraft?

[quote="ThaBlackMagician":1o4oyhfr][quote="CrystalMusic":1o4oyhfr]Scenario: You get trapped in a single player only video game of your choice but have no lives remaining in which to beat the game and you cannot earn any extra lives. The only way you can escape that video game is by beating the game, where the staff/credit rolls appear after beating the game, without losing your last life. You have an unlimited amount of time in which to beat the game (no cheat codes, console commands, mods, etc - basically, no cheating of any kind - you must pick a game where losing a life is likely to happen - i included this as a safeguard in case one picks a game where you can never lose a life due to the mechanics of the game)

What game do you pick? And what is your strategy?[/quote:1o4oyhfr]

So I can't pick Minecraft?[/quote:1o4oyhfr]
You van play vanilla and you cannot play creative, everything else is fair game.

I pick Mario Kart.

Technically speaking, I picked a game "Impossible" to die, because the barrage of bullets, cannonically speaking, are non-lethal

[quote="Lil Oldman":31vj44r0]Technically speaking, I picked a game "Impossible" to die, because the barrage of bullets, cannonically speaking, are non-lethal[/quote:31vj44r0]
I thought similarly. Can you even die at Mario Kart, let alone not see the credits, despite not actually winning?

Looks like this thread has reached the point where this is relevant: http://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14097

[quote="greg503":gdhaz5x5]Looks like this thread has reached the point where this is relevant: http://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14097[/quote:gdhaz5x5]
All roads lead to Rome, I suppose.

[quote="NiwatoriFTW":2vj9wat3][quote="greg503":2vj9wat3]Looks like this thread has reached the point where this is relevant: http://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14097[/quote:2vj9wat3]
All roads lead to Rome, I suppose.[/quote:2vj9wat3]
After all, beast will be beast

I'm stuck in Sonic Unleahsed and I know what to do, Go forward to win, boost, jump out of the TV al a the Ring (heh) and stab you in the Eyes and everyone on DB will call you "Blind"

[quote="ThaBlackMagician":287aukco][quote="CrystalMusic":287aukco]Scenario: You get trapped in a single player only video game of your choice but have no lives remaining in which to beat the game and you cannot earn any extra lives. The only way you can escape that video game is by beating the game, where the staff/credit rolls appear after beating the game, without losing your last life. You have an unlimited amount of time in which to beat the game (no cheat codes, console commands, mods, etc - basically, no cheating of any kind - you must pick a game where losing a life is likely to happen - i included this as a safeguard in case one picks a game where you can never lose a life due to the mechanics of the game)

What game do you pick? And what is your strategy?[/quote:287aukco]

So I can't pick Minecraft?[/quote:287aukco]

as long as ur not using creative mode or some other cheatsy doodling stuff, minecraft is fine

[quote="Debt":2tx7ezh2]No clue why you're trying to gatekeep this. If anything you broke your own rules of no extra lives and picking a game where death must be likely to occur by picking OoT which is an insanely easy game even when playing it for the first time and went with a strategy where you get effectively get extra lives via fairies.[/quote:2tx7ezh2]

fairies are NOT extra lives. in Zelda you only get ONE life. Fairies just revive you when your life energy hits 0. it does not give me an extra life. let me explain this: think of mario 64, you can have up to 99 lives in that game as there is a life meter on the top left displaying how many lives you have remaning. in zelda there is no life meter, you have hearts instead, once those hearts hit 0 link dies. fairies are not lives but rather revivers for when links hearts hit 0. once i run out of fairies im screwed.

[quote="CrystalMusic":h2v9lluj]

fairies are NOT extra lives. in Zelda you only get ONE life. Fairies just revive you when your life energy hits 0. it does not give me an extra life. let me explain this: think of mario 64, you can have up to 99 lives in that game as there is a life meter on the top left displaying how many lives you have remaning. in zelda there is no life meter, you have hearts instead, once those hearts hit 0 link dies. fairies are not lives but rather revivers for when links hearts hit 0. once i run out of fairies im screwed.[/quote:h2v9lluj]
Semantics. It's basically the same thing except displayed differently. If anything zelda fairies are better than lives because they let you revive where you died and they're easily farmable.

[quote="CrystalMusic":zze7kg7p][quote="Debt":zze7kg7p]No clue why you're trying to gatekeep this. If anything you broke your own rules of no extra lives and picking a game where death must be likely to occur by picking OoT which is an insanely easy game even when playing it for the first time and went with a strategy where you get effectively get extra lives via fairies.[/quote:zze7kg7p]

fairies are NOT extra lives. in Zelda you only get ONE life. Fairies just revive you when your life energy hits 0. it does not give me an extra life. let me explain this: think of mario 64, you can have up to 99 lives in that game as there is a life meter on the top left displaying how many lives you have remaning. in zelda there is no life meter, you have hearts instead, once those hearts hit 0 link dies. fairies are not lives but rather revivers for when links hearts hit 0. once i run out of fairies im screwed.[/quote:zze7kg7p]

in all fairness, Fairies in most if not ALL Zelda games function similarly to an extra life because of exactly what you just said. "once you hit 0 hearts, the fairy revives you to full health." The 'life' in question here is the fairy itself. If you have 4 bottles, and each one has a fairy in it, you have 5 lives. If you have 1 fairy, you have 2 lives. Make sense?

still even without fairies i can beat Zelda OoT no problem, like i said ill just get the biggoron sword before i even get to the forest temple. that sword makes the game look like childsplay.

The entire game is easy.

[quote="CrystalMusic":pnnjomhr][quote="Debt":pnnjomhr]No clue why you're trying to gatekeep this. If anything you broke your own rules of no extra lives and picking a game where death must be likely to occur by picking OoT which is an insanely easy game even when playing it for the first time and went with a strategy where you get effectively get extra lives via fairies.[/quote:pnnjomhr]

fairies are NOT extra lives. in Zelda you only get ONE life. Fairies just revive you when your life energy hits 0. it does not give me an extra life. let me explain this: think of mario 64, you can have up to 99 lives in that game as there is a life meter on the top left displaying how many lives you have remaning. in zelda there is no life meter, you have hearts instead, once those hearts hit 0 link dies. fairies are not lives but rather revivers for when links hearts hit 0. once i run out of fairies im screwed.[/quote:pnnjomhr]
Which amounts to you having gaining lives, sorry.

[quote="CrystalMusic":395njzpi]still even without fairies i can beat Zelda OoT no problem, like i said ill just get the biggoron sword before i even get to the forest temple. that sword makes the game look like childsplay.[/quote:395njzpi]
Prove it then.

[quote="Darkraiclone":38ejcein]Prove it then.[/quote:38ejcein]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it

[quote="Debt":2wld01xe][quote="Darkraiclone":2wld01xe]Prove it then.[/quote:2wld01xe]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it[/quote:2wld01xe]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2th90qz6][quote="Debt":2th90qz6][quote="Darkraiclone":2th90qz6]Prove it then.[/quote:2th90qz6]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it[/quote:2th90qz6]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:2th90qz6]

I'd like to see proof of that claim

[quote="LightCaster":37kc801q][quote="Renji Asuka":37kc801q][quote="Debt":37kc801q]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it[/quote:37kc801q]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:37kc801q]

I'd like to see proof of that claim[/quote:37kc801q]
Enjoy FYI, its on the first page if you want to see for yourself.

[quote="CrystalMusic":37kc801q][quote="Renji Asuka":37kc801q][quote="CrystalMusic":37kc801q]

doenst sound like losing a life is likely due to how ur abusing the mechanics so you violated the safeguard, nice try tho[/quote:37kc801q]
Abusing Mechanics? Nah, if it was abusing mechanics (aka exploit) it would had been patched by Bethesda, but it wasn't, therefore its legal. I don't even have to go that extreme because the game on Legendary difficulty is easy as piss. Hell I can run around naked while letting my thralls do everything and not die lol[/quote:37kc801q]

bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.[/quote:37kc801q]

[quote="Darkraiclone":3rrbvzzl][quote="CrystalMusic":3rrbvzzl]still even without fairies i can beat Zelda OoT no problem, like i said ill just get the biggoron sword before i even get to the forest temple. that sword makes the game look like childsplay.[/quote:3rrbvzzl]
Prove it then.[/quote:3rrbvzzl]

umm 1: you cant live stream on a nintendo 64
2: i dont have anything to hold my phone to record the game play
3: i cant live stream on my mobile because of youtubes stupid restrictions on how you need to have 1000 or more subs to live stream on mobile

if i had all 3 of these taken care of id gladly stream my gameplay!

[quote="Renji Asuka":2zqw0yyl][quote="Debt":2zqw0yyl][quote="Darkraiclone":2zqw0yyl]Prove it then.[/quote:2zqw0yyl]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it[/quote:2zqw0yyl]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:2zqw0yyl]

i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors! I said i KNEW how to get Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Block and Restoration to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. its not hard! I just jump on a ledge on the first puzzle room (with the turntable things where the key is Snake, Snake, Whale) theres this little ledge where i can still be hit but where i can back up enough so i cant be hit to allow me to use my restoration agic to restore my health. its part of the game, dont be blaming me or accusing me of anything when its not my fault bethesda didnt make bandits smart enough to know how to jump!

my strategy is simple: i use the ledge to get away from the bandit by backing up against the wall. heres how it works:
1: i jump on the edge of the ledge where the bandit is able to hit me with his sword
2: let the bandit hit me, or my shield, enough to where my health is low to where the screen starts flashing from low health - this increases my light armor skill my heavy armor skilland my block skill - i always have a full set of both steel and leather armor by this point
3: back up enough to where he cant hit me
4: use my restoration magic to heal myself
5: regen my magicka completely
6: move forward again and let him hit me
7: repeat steps 2 - 5 until my light armor, heavy armor, block and restoration all hit 100
8: kill the bandit and move on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTCGW6j5_Y - my video on how i do this!
its not an exploit, its not a glitch, its all legit!

[quote="CrystalMusic":3pwbji0w][quote="Darkraiclone":3pwbji0w][quote="CrystalMusic":3pwbji0w]still even without fairies i can beat Zelda OoT no problem, like i said ill just get the biggoron sword before i even get to the forest temple. that sword makes the game look like childsplay.[/quote:3pwbji0w]
Prove it then.[/quote:3pwbji0w]

umm 1: you cant live stream on a nintendo 64
2: i dont have anything to hold my phone to record the game play
3: i cant live stream on my mobile because of youtubes stupid restrictions on how you need to have 1000 or more subs to live stream on mobile

if i had all 3 of these taken care of id gladly stream my gameplay![/quote:3pwbji0w]
You could use an Elgato Game Capture for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdu-nvWK0jY


Alternatively, there are emulator options, so you could stream from the PC, without the usage of your phone, as well as a different streaming platform, like Twitch.tv or Trovo.live

[quote="CrystalMusic":1047apbl][quote="Renji Asuka":1047apbl][quote="Debt":1047apbl]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it[/quote:1047apbl]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:1047apbl]

i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors! I said i KNEW how to get Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Block and Restoration to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. its not hard! I just jump on a ledge on the first puzzle room (with the turntable things where the key is Snake, Snake, Whale) theres this little ledge where i can still be hit but where i can back up enough so i cant be hit to allow me to use my restoration agic to restore my health. its part of the game, dont be blaming me or accusing me of anything when its not my fault bethesda didnt make bandits smart enough to know how to jump!

my strategy is simple: i use the ledge to get away from the bandit by backing up against the wall. heres how it works:
1: i jump on the edge of the ledge where the bandit is able to hit me with his sword
2: let the bandit hit me, or my shield, enough to where my health is low to where the screen starts flashing from low health - this increases my light armor skill my heavy armor skilland my block skill - i always have a full set of both steel and leather armor by this point
3: back up enough to where he cant hit me
4: use my restoration magic to heal myself
5: regen my magicka completely
6: move forward again and let him hit me
7: repeat steps 2 - 5 until my light armor, heavy armor, block and restoration all hit 100
8: kill the bandit and move on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTCGW6j5_Y - my video on how i do this!
its not an exploit, its not a glitch, its all legit![/quote:1047apbl]
You kinda said it, right here: viewtopic.php?p=56921#p56921
[quote="CrystalMusic":1047apbl]bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.[/quote:1047apbl]

[quote="NiwatoriFTW":2npo5zdz][quote="CrystalMusic":2npo5zdz][quote="Renji Asuka":2npo5zdz]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:2npo5zdz]

i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors! I said i KNEW how to get Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Block and Restoration to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. its not hard! I just jump on a ledge on the first puzzle room (with the turntable things where the key is Snake, Snake, Whale) theres this little ledge where i can still be hit but where i can back up enough so i cant be hit to allow me to use my restoration agic to restore my health. its part of the game, dont be blaming me or accusing me of anything when its not my fault bethesda didnt make bandits smart enough to know how to jump!

my strategy is simple: i use the ledge to get away from the bandit by backing up against the wall. heres how it works:
1: i jump on the edge of the ledge where the bandit is able to hit me with his sword
2: let the bandit hit me, or my shield, enough to where my health is low to where the screen starts flashing from low health - this increases my light armor skill my heavy armor skilland my block skill - i always have a full set of both steel and leather armor by this point
3: back up enough to where he cant hit me
4: use my restoration magic to heal myself
5: regen my magicka completely
6: move forward again and let him hit me
7: repeat steps 2 - 5 until my light armor, heavy armor, block and restoration all hit 100
8: kill the bandit and move on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTCGW6j5_Y - my video on how i do this!
its not an exploit, its not a glitch, its all legit![/quote:2npo5zdz]
You kinda said it, right here: viewtopic.php?p=56921#p56921
[quote="CrystalMusic":2npo5zdz]bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" im a skyrim veteran when it comes to skill leveling and decimating any hostile i come across.[/quote:2npo5zdz][/quote:2npo5zdz]

i doubt you watched the video i linked. its not a glitch, cheat, exploit, etc. its 100% legit. that video shows how i always get my light/heavy armor to 100 (and sometimes my restoration and block to 100) before completing bleak falls barrow. and depending on how high my sneak is already, due to how stupid the bandit is... i can get that to 100 in that very room as well.

i can be level 4 or even 5 upon getting to riverwood. all i do is i sneak behind whoever i decide to follow (hadvar or ralof) once im out of helgen, all the way to riverwood, this levels up my sneak skill which also levels me up!

[quote="CrystalMusic":1g3l7ano]i doubt you watched the video i linked. its not a glitch, cheat, exploit, etc. its 100% legit. that video shows how i always get my light/heavy armor to 100 (and sometimes my restoration and block to 100) before completing bleak falls barrow[/quote:1g3l7ano]
The video doesn't matter much, it's about what you said. You claimed:
[quote="CrystalMusic":1g3l7ano]i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors![/quote:1g3l7ano]
While having said this earlier (viewtopic.php?p=56921#p56921):
[quote="CrystalMusic":1g3l7ano]bethesda doesnt patch many exploits, if they did i wouldnt be able to have my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow"[/quote:1g3l7ano]
So, it's not a rumor nor false, you essentially said it was an exploit through your earlier post and if Bethesda patched it, you wouldn't be able to get everything mentioned.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2x1winzr]

i doubt you watched the video i linked. its not a glitch, cheat, exploit, etc. its 100% legit. that video shows how i always get my light/heavy armor to 100 (and sometimes my restoration and block to 100) before completing bleak falls barrow. and depending on how high my sneak is already, due to how stupid the bandit is... i can get that to 100 in that very room as well.

i can be level 4 or even 5 upon getting to riverwood. all i do is i sneak behind whoever i decide to follow (hadvar or ralof) once im out of helgen, all the way to riverwood, this levels up my sneak skill which also levels me up![/quote:2x1winzr]
That's all irrelevant. What's being discussed is what you implied.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2x1winzr]bethesda doesnt patch many exploits[/quote:2x1winzr]

You bringing up bethesda's normal behavior towards exploits

[quote="CrystalMusic":2x1winzr]if they did i wouldnt be able to have[/quote:2x1winzr]

You stating that if bethesda corrected exploits regularly then

[quote="CrystalMusic":2x1winzr]my heavy armor, restoration, block, and light armor at 100 before finishing the quest "Bleak Falls Barrow" [/quote:2x1winzr]

This wouldn't be possible. Ergo it is an exploit.

Anyone who's played skyrim before would know that this isn't an exploit but what you wrote IMPLIES exploiting.

[quote="CrystalMusic":cthfm3rw][quote="Renji Asuka":cthfm3rw][quote="Debt":cthfm3rw]
There's no reason to even prove it tbh. OoT is already so easy that trying to trivialize it further isn't even worth it[/quote:cthfm3rw]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:cthfm3rw]

i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors! I said i KNEW how to get Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Block and Restoration to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. its not hard! I just jump on a ledge on the first puzzle room (with the turntable things where the key is Snake, Snake, Whale) theres this little ledge where i can still be hit but where i can back up enough so i cant be hit to allow me to use my restoration agic to restore my health. its part of the game, dont be blaming me or accusing me of anything when its not my fault bethesda didnt make bandits smart enough to know how to jump!

my strategy is simple: i use the ledge to get away from the bandit by backing up against the wall. heres how it works:
1: i jump on the edge of the ledge where the bandit is able to hit me with his sword
2: let the bandit hit me, or my shield, enough to where my health is low to where the screen starts flashing from low health - this increases my light armor skill my heavy armor skilland my block skill - i always have a full set of both steel and leather armor by this point
3: back up enough to where he cant hit me
4: use my restoration magic to heal myself
5: regen my magicka completely
6: move forward again and let him hit me
7: repeat steps 2 - 5 until my light armor, heavy armor, block and restoration all hit 100
8: kill the bandit and move on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTCGW6j5_Y - my video on how i do this!
its not an exploit, its not a glitch, its all legit![/quote:cthfm3rw]
1, you did claim it was an exploit.

2, that is the most inefficient way to even level those skills. Skill Training is superior when combined with Calm.

crypt of the necro dancer all zones with the bard easy peasy with the shop function

[quote="Renji Asuka":2j91ea9n][quote="CrystalMusic":2j91ea9n][quote="Renji Asuka":2j91ea9n]
Remember, Crystal Music claims to be a Skyrim Veteran, yet thinks getting your skills to 100 is an exploit before doing Bleak Falls Barrow.[/quote:2j91ea9n]

i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors! I said i KNEW how to get Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Block and Restoration to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. its not hard! I just jump on a ledge on the first puzzle room (with the turntable things where the key is Snake, Snake, Whale) theres this little ledge where i can still be hit but where i can back up enough so i cant be hit to allow me to use my restoration agic to restore my health. its part of the game, dont be blaming me or accusing me of anything when its not my fault bethesda didnt make bandits smart enough to know how to jump!

my strategy is simple: i use the ledge to get away from the bandit by backing up against the wall. heres how it works:
1: i jump on the edge of the ledge where the bandit is able to hit me with his sword
2: let the bandit hit me, or my shield, enough to where my health is low to where the screen starts flashing from low health - this increases my light armor skill my heavy armor skilland my block skill - i always have a full set of both steel and leather armor by this point
3: back up enough to where he cant hit me
4: use my restoration magic to heal myself
5: regen my magicka completely
6: move forward again and let him hit me
7: repeat steps 2 - 5 until my light armor, heavy armor, block and restoration all hit 100
8: kill the bandit and move on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTCGW6j5_Y - my video on how i do this!
its not an exploit, its not a glitch, its all legit![/quote:2j91ea9n]
1, you did claim it was an exploit.

2, that is the most inefficient way to even level those skills. Skill Training is superior when combined with Calm.[/quote:2j91ea9n]
skill training costs gold, so yeah go ahead enjoy farming the gold for your training. and you can only train 5 times each level. so youre limited to how much you can increase while im not. go ahead waste your gold early in the game when theres many other better things you can use it for like housing

Suddenly this thread isn't just for fun anymore, Isn't it?

[quote="KTeknis":3463qrxg]Suddenly this thread isn't just for fun anymore, Isn't it?[/quote:3463qrxg]
What isn't more fun than starting a heated """Argument""" about a reasoning behind an hypotethical situation?

[quote="CrystalMusic":6sj22dlg][quote="Renji Asuka":6sj22dlg][quote="CrystalMusic":6sj22dlg]

i never said it was an exploit! quit spreading false rumors! I said i KNEW how to get Light Armor, Heavy Armor, Block and Restoration to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. its not hard! I just jump on a ledge on the first puzzle room (with the turntable things where the key is Snake, Snake, Whale) theres this little ledge where i can still be hit but where i can back up enough so i cant be hit to allow me to use my restoration agic to restore my health. its part of the game, dont be blaming me or accusing me of anything when its not my fault bethesda didnt make bandits smart enough to know how to jump!

my strategy is simple: i use the ledge to get away from the bandit by backing up against the wall. heres how it works:
1: i jump on the edge of the ledge where the bandit is able to hit me with his sword
2: let the bandit hit me, or my shield, enough to where my health is low to where the screen starts flashing from low health - this increases my light armor skill my heavy armor skilland my block skill - i always have a full set of both steel and leather armor by this point
3: back up enough to where he cant hit me
4: use my restoration magic to heal myself
5: regen my magicka completely
6: move forward again and let him hit me
7: repeat steps 2 - 5 until my light armor, heavy armor, block and restoration all hit 100
8: kill the bandit and move on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTCGW6j5_Y - my video on how i do this!
its not an exploit, its not a glitch, its all legit![/quote:6sj22dlg]
1, you did claim it was an exploit.

2, that is the most inefficient way to even level those skills. Skill Training is superior when combined with Calm.[/quote:6sj22dlg]
skill training costs gold, so yeah go ahead enjoy farming the gold for your training. and you can only train 5 times each level. so youre limited to how much you can increase while im not. go ahead waste your gold early in the game when theres many other better things you can use it for like housing[/quote:6sj22dlg]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, as for an actual response to the stupidity you just spouted.

1st, there is a lot of vendors that are also skill trainers (especially in the College of Winterhold). So I can literally make my money back, hell I can even earn THOUSANDS OF GOLD going on a loot run, which also doesn't put me into a lot of combat if any. (Which you can see on MajorSlackAttack's walkthrough for the Spellsword). Second of all, pickpocketing exists, I can literally train, then pickpocket the gold back if I really wanted to be stingy, which is EXTREMELY EASY TO LEVEL UP. Also the Well Rested Bonus + Whatever Standing Stone for Relevant Skill, then 5 skill training, I can literally go to the Bandit outside Embershard Mine and get a free level up in said skill.

Then YOU seem to think housing is actually important in Skyrim? I don't give a shit about housing, I can get a ton of FREE BEDS if I needed it LOL

And you claim to be a skyrim veteran? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote="Renji Asuka":2209vjzn][quote="CrystalMusic":2209vjzn][quote="Renji Asuka":2209vjzn]
1, you did claim it was an exploit.

2, that is the most inefficient way to even level those skills. Skill Training is superior when combined with Calm.[/quote:2209vjzn]
skill training costs gold, so yeah go ahead enjoy farming the gold for your training. and you can only train 5 times each level. so youre limited to how much you can increase while im not. go ahead waste your gold early in the game when theres many other better things you can use it for like housing[/quote:2209vjzn]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, as for an actual response to the stupidity you just spouted.

1st, there is a lot of vendors that are also skill trainers (especially in the College of Winterhold). So I can literally make my money back, hell I can even earn THOUSANDS OF GOLD going on a loot run, which also doesn't put me into a lot of combat if any. (Which you can see on MajorSlackAttack's walkthrough for the Spellsword). Second of all, pickpocketing exists, I can literally train, then pickpocket the gold back if I really wanted to be stingy, which is EXTREMELY EASY TO LEVEL UP. Also the Well Rested Bonus + Whatever Standing Stone for Relevant Skill, then 5 skill training, I can literally go to the Bandit outside Embershard Mine and get a free level up in said skill.

Then YOU seem to think housing is actually important in Skyrim? I don't give a shit about housing, I can get a ton of FREE BEDS if I needed it LOL

And you claim to be a skyrim veteran? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/quote:2209vjzn]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.

Wasn't the discussion about if CrystalMusic called that method and exploit or not?

BTW, CrystalMusic, I provided some alternatives to stream your gaming. Also, your Discord invitation link expired, you should create a new one with longer duration, possibly everlasting if you intend to continue with that server for your YGO matches.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2dd6mp37][quote="Renji Asuka":2dd6mp37][quote="CrystalMusic":2dd6mp37]
skill training costs gold, so yeah go ahead enjoy farming the gold for your training. and you can only train 5 times each level. so youre limited to how much you can increase while im not. go ahead waste your gold early in the game when theres many other better things you can use it for like housing[/quote:2dd6mp37]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, as for an actual response to the stupidity you just spouted.

1st, there is a lot of vendors that are also skill trainers (especially in the College of Winterhold). So I can literally make my money back, hell I can even earn THOUSANDS OF GOLD going on a loot run, which also doesn't put me into a lot of combat if any. (Which you can see on MajorSlackAttack's walkthrough for the Spellsword). Second of all, pickpocketing exists, I can literally train, then pickpocket the gold back if I really wanted to be stingy, which is EXTREMELY EASY TO LEVEL UP. Also the Well Rested Bonus + Whatever Standing Stone for Relevant Skill, then 5 skill training, I can literally go to the Bandit outside Embershard Mine and get a free level up in said skill.

Then YOU seem to think housing is actually important in Skyrim? I don't give a shit about housing, I can get a ton of FREE BEDS if I needed it LOL

And you claim to be a skyrim veteran? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/quote:2dd6mp37]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:2dd6mp37]
LMAO Comparing Dragonborn to a noob? FYI, it isn't about stats, abilities and shit. You claim to be a veteran, but you don't even know how easy gold is to come by, hell you even THINK that having skills capped before bleak falls barrow is an exploit. Then you act like skill training is pointless? LMAO. Man, you are straight up lying about being a Veteran Skyrim Player.

THEN You want to compare dragonborns? As if you're in a dick measuring contest? Bruh, you'd lose that contest.

[quote="DuskWill":3p16mzub]Wasn't the discussion about if CrystalMusic called that method and exploit or not?[/quote:3p16mzub]
No, he just want to boast being a veteran player. Which he is fail spectacularly.

[quote="DuskWill":3p16mzub]BTW, CrystalMusic, I provided some alternatives to stream your gaming. Also, your Discord invitation link expired, you should create a new one with longer duration, possibly everlasting if you intend to continue with that server for your YGO matches.[/quote:3p16mzub]
Stop helping DuskWill. Don't let that jackass take advantage of your kindness. If he fail to set it up properly then its his fault, and should be shame of himself when he'd trash talk Discord, but more importantly, us!

[quote="CrystalMusic":3p16mzub][quote="Renji Asuka":3p16mzub]
ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:3p16mzub][/quote:3p16mzub]
Accept the challenge Renji Asuka, and destroy him!

[quote="CrystalMusic":3ruyzru2][quote="Darkraiclone":3ruyzru2][quote="CrystalMusic":3ruyzru2]still even without fairies i can beat Zelda OoT no problem, like i said ill just get the biggoron sword before i even get to the forest temple. that sword makes the game look like childsplay.[/quote:3ruyzru2]
Prove it then.[/quote:3ruyzru2]

umm 1: you cant live stream on a nintendo 64
2: i dont have anything to hold my phone to record the game play
3: i cant live stream on my mobile because of youtubes stupid restrictions on how you need to have 1000 or more subs to live stream on mobile

if i had all 3 of these taken care of id gladly stream my gameplay![/quote:3ruyzru2]
how do you think speedrunners are able to submit runs its possible to stream your n64 screen how about you look it up instead of saying you cant

[quote="Rocket2":7ehoj509][quote="DuskWill":7ehoj509]Wasn't the discussion about if CrystalMusic called that method and exploit or not?[/quote:7ehoj509]
No, he just want to boast being a veteran player. Which he is fail spectacularly.

[quote="DuskWill":7ehoj509]BTW, CrystalMusic, I provided some alternatives to stream your gaming. Also, your Discord invitation link expired, you should create a new one with longer duration, possibly everlasting if you intend to continue with that server for your YGO matches.[/quote:7ehoj509]
Stop helping DuskWill. Don't let that jackass take advantage of your kindness. If he fail to set it up properly then its his fault, and should be shame of himself when he'd trash talk Discord, but more importantly, us!

[quote="CrystalMusic":7ehoj509][quote="Renji Asuka":7ehoj509]
ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:7ehoj509][/quote:7ehoj509]
Accept the challenge Renji Asuka, and destroy him! [/quote:7ehoj509]
I already destroyed him lmao (sides I delete characters constantly)

[quote="Renji Asuka":d8aucvsi][quote="CrystalMusic":d8aucvsi][quote="Renji Asuka":d8aucvsi]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay, as for an actual response to the stupidity you just spouted.

1st, there is a lot of vendors that are also skill trainers (especially in the College of Winterhold). So I can literally make my money back, hell I can even earn THOUSANDS OF GOLD going on a loot run, which also doesn't put me into a lot of combat if any. (Which you can see on MajorSlackAttack's walkthrough for the Spellsword). Second of all, pickpocketing exists, I can literally train, then pickpocket the gold back if I really wanted to be stingy, which is EXTREMELY EASY TO LEVEL UP. Also the Well Rested Bonus + Whatever Standing Stone for Relevant Skill, then 5 skill training, I can literally go to the Bandit outside Embershard Mine and get a free level up in said skill.

Then YOU seem to think housing is actually important in Skyrim? I don't give a shit about housing, I can get a ton of FREE BEDS if I needed it LOL

And you claim to be a skyrim veteran? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/quote:d8aucvsi]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:d8aucvsi]
LMAO Comparing Dragonborn to a noob? FYI, it isn't about stats, abilities and shit. You claim to be a veteran, but you don't even know how easy gold is to come by, hell you even THINK that having skills capped before bleak falls barrow is an exploit. Then you act like skill training is pointless? LMAO. Man, you are straight up lying about being a Veteran Skyrim Player.

so in short your afraid my DB is stronger than yours

THEN You want to compare dragonborns? As if you're in a dick measuring contest? Bruh, you'd lose that contest.[/quote:d8aucvsi]

ur still showing your afraid

[quote="CrystalMusic":2gbz6bwh][quote="Renji Asuka":2gbz6bwh][quote="CrystalMusic":2gbz6bwh]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:2gbz6bwh]
LMAO Comparing Dragonborn to a noob? FYI, it isn't about stats, abilities and shit. You claim to be a veteran, but you don't even know how easy gold is to come by, hell you even THINK that having skills capped before bleak falls barrow is an exploit. Then you act like skill training is pointless? LMAO. Man, you are straight up lying about being a Veteran Skyrim Player.

so in short your afraid my DB is stronger than yours

THEN You want to compare dragonborns? As if you're in a dick measuring contest? Bruh, you'd lose that contest.[/quote:2gbz6bwh]

ur still showing your afraid[/quote:2gbz6bwh]
If you think that is being afraid, then you obviously don't know what afraid means, Mr. Skyrim Noob.

[quote="CrystalMusic":p0g9seaj][quote="Renji Asuka":p0g9seaj][quote="CrystalMusic":p0g9seaj]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:p0g9seaj]
LMAO Comparing Dragonborn to a noob? FYI, it isn't about stats, abilities and shit. You claim to be a veteran, but you don't even know how easy gold is to come by, hell you even THINK that having skills capped before bleak falls barrow is an exploit. Then you act like skill training is pointless? LMAO. Man, you are straight up lying about being a Veteran Skyrim Player.

so in short your afraid my DB is stronger than yours

THEN You want to compare dragonborns? As if you're in a dick measuring contest? Bruh, you'd lose that contest.[/quote:p0g9seaj]

ur still showing your afraid[/quote:p0g9seaj]
beast will be beast, after all.

[quote="CrystalMusic":xjt853ro][quote="Renji Asuka":xjt853ro][quote="CrystalMusic":xjt853ro]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:xjt853ro]
LMAO Comparing Dragonborn to a noob? FYI, it isn't about stats, abilities and shit. You claim to be a veteran, but you don't even know how easy gold is to come by, hell you even THINK that having skills capped before bleak falls barrow is an exploit. Then you act like skill training is pointless? LMAO. Man, you are straight up lying about being a Veteran Skyrim Player.

so in short your afraid my DB is stronger than yours

THEN You want to compare dragonborns? As if you're in a dick measuring contest? Bruh, you'd lose that contest.[/quote:xjt853ro]

ur still showing your afraid[/quote:xjt853ro]
You're pathetic.

[quote="CrystalMusic":qfj4q6ud][quote="Renji Asuka":qfj4q6ud][quote="CrystalMusic":qfj4q6ud]

ok what is your most powerful dragonborn? we will compare and see who has the better stats, skills, abilities, etc.[/quote:qfj4q6ud]
LMAO Comparing Dragonborn to a noob? FYI, it isn't about stats, abilities and shit. You claim to be a veteran, but you don't even know how easy gold is to come by, hell you even THINK that having skills capped before bleak falls barrow is an exploit. Then you act like skill training is pointless? LMAO. Man, you are straight up lying about being a Veteran Skyrim Player.

so in short your afraid my DB is stronger than yours

THEN You want to compare dragonborns? As if you're in a dick measuring contest? Bruh, you'd lose that contest.[/quote:qfj4q6ud]

ur still showing your afraid[/quote:qfj4q6ud]

My most powerful Dragonborn is an Argonian death knight adorned in enchanted dwarven armor that reduces magic damage taken and increases health. Maxed Smithing, Conjuration and Two-handed weaponry, carrying an Orcish greatsword with ice damage and absorb magic. I have my perks so I can have an atronach thrall AND a seeker. Forcing the battle into a 3v1. I wear an amulet of talos to reduce shout time and often go to frost breath, whirlwind sprint and marked for death for shouts. Having maxed Two-handed skills allows me to get up close and personal while doing a lot of damage. My dwarven gloves increase two handed damage and health. My dragonbone helm increases magic resistance and fire resistance. Dwarven shoes increases heavy armor and stamina. I have a ring that increases magicka reserves and conjuration. Putting me at about 120 conjuration. With enchantments I can have lower base stats

If you wanna get into specifics of stats:

~120 Conjuration
~110 Two-handed
100 Smithing
100 Alchemy
100 Alteration
80 Heavy armor
50% resistant to disease
75% resistant to magic
50% resistant to poison
30% resistant to spell effects
100% damage increase with greatswords
30% magic absorbtion
50% decreased chances to be inflected with stagger.
20% chance of crit damage increase with greatswords
175% armor rating increased
27.06% physical damage reduction (Without upgrading armor)
20% shout cooldown decrease
225 armor rating (Without upgrades to armor)
Is level 81


As for what game I'd pick. I'd go with World of Warcraft, to stay on the main topic.

Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game. Oh and every Daedric Artifact: Azura's Star/Black Star, Dawnbreaker, Ebony Blade, Ebony Mail, Mace of Molag Bal, Masque of Clavicus Vile, Mehrune's Razor, Oghma Infinium, Ring of Namira, Sanguine Rose, Savior's Hide, Skeleton Key, Skull of Corruption, Spellbreaker, Volendrung, and Wabbajack

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!!

[quote="CrystalMusic":bb9p2pfh]Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game.

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!![/quote:bb9p2pfh]
DLC huh... I wonder if LightCaster has that

[quote="greg503":qzpmqcjo][quote="CrystalMusic":qzpmqcjo]Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game.

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!![/quote:qzpmqcjo]
DLC huh... I wonder if LightCaster has that[/quote:qzpmqcjo]

I do. but the thing is, he thinks he can take control of conjured creatures. You can't. And another thing. All the stats I just said were for base-game alone. Without DLC. If you wanna include DLC then it'd look more like:

~130 Conjuration
~120 Two-handed
100 Smithing
100 Alchemy
100 Alteration
100 Enchantment
80 Heavy armor
50% resistant to disease
20% resistant to fire (while Dragon Aspect is active)
20% resistant to frost (While Dragon Aspect is active)
85% resistant to magic
50% resistant to poison
30% resistant to spell effects
100% damage increase with greatswords
30% magic absorption
75% decreased chances to be inflected with stagger.
20% chance of crit damage increase with greatswords
300% armor rating increased (While Dragon Aspect is active)
152% physical damage reduction (While Dragon Aspect is active) ((No active potions))
40% shout cooldown decrease (While Dragon Aspect is active.)
1,263 armor rating (While Dragon Aspect is active) ((No active potions))
Can transform into a vampire lord: decreasing enemy movement speed, can summon a gargoyle and can become invulnerable
As a vampire lord, Dragon aspect lasts more than 7 minutes.
Is level 81

Assisting in combat would be:
Odahviing/Durnevhiir
An Atronach thrall + a seeker if I so chose
A Dark brotherhood assassin
Gromlaith Golden-Hilt
Hakon One-Eye
Felldir the Old
Risen Gargoyle

So that 350 damage from your warhammer would actually do -147 damage if you include my resistances. So basically I could have worse health stamina and magicka reserves than CM, but still outlive him due to the high amount of absorb health and magicka and the resistances would nullify the damage. Hilariously with enchanted armor. Damage resistance caps at 80% And also mind you I'm achieving this with 3 of my 4 armor slots being dwarven armor

[quote="CrystalMusic":2kb1ok55]Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game. Oh and every Daedric Artifact: Azura's Star/Black Star, Dawnbreaker, Ebony Blade, Ebony Mail, Mace of Molag Bal, Masque of Clavicus Vile, Mehrune's Razor, Oghma Infinium, Ring of Namira, Sanguine Rose, Savior's Hide, Skeleton Key, Skull of Corruption, Spellbreaker, Volendrung, and Wabbajack

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!![/quote:2kb1ok55]

LOL, Omg, this is too damn funny. Crystal Music thinks having that high of a armor rating MEANS ANYTHING BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. For being a Skyrim Veteran the fact you think your armor rating above the cap means anything is HILARIOUS LOL

Regardless of your displayed armor rating you can never exceed an 80% physical damage reduction, the armor cap. You'll reach the armor cap at 542 displayed armor rating when wearing all four pieces of armor and a shield, 567 without a shield, or 667 when not wearing any armor or shield at all.

Its LITERALLY WASTED STATS LMAO

Then, you go have elemental resistances ON TOP OF HITTING THE MAGIC RESISTANCE CAP LITERALLY WASTING ENCHANTMENT SLOTS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS. Now to be fair though, you could have a 97.75% magic resist towards element if you even HIT 85% elemental resistance, but the fact you didn't do that, just shows how much of a waste of enchantments you picked. Then you have the gall to use Resist Poison when enemies TYPICALLY DON'T USE POISONS in the fucking game is hilarious. Especially if you felt the need to even have that enchantment.

Then considering you are not using the Necromage Perk and being a vampire, you can't truly be immune to spells thanks to the Atronach Perk + Atronach Stone which increases their effectiveness on you even more. Because of this, you are still killable by magic. On top of that, you wouldn't feel the need to have another wasted enchantment slot being Resist Disease.

Then add in the fact you're not using the Chaos Enchantment really shows that your damage would be lacking, it is one of the strongest if not the strongest weapon enchantment you can have, Absorb Health with it or if you wanted to be spicy throw on Paralyze.

Then getting into your other weapon, the fact you're not using Fiery Soul Trap is rather disappointing. But from what I seen, you can't make good builds. Then add onto the fact, you haven't even faced the Ebony Warrior, which has one of the best enchantments in the game (in my opinion) being Regen Health, then combine with the Potion of Fortify Restoration with a Fortify Alchemy enchantment, you can increase your health regeneration to over 1,000,000%. In which case, you could not die realistically.

Skyrim Veteran? More like Skyrim NOOOB LMAO BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is so fucking great. Thanks.

[quote="Renji Asuka":p6bgnjdc][quote="CrystalMusic":p6bgnjdc]Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game. Oh and every Daedric Artifact: Azura's Star/Black Star, Dawnbreaker, Ebony Blade, Ebony Mail, Mace of Molag Bal, Masque of Clavicus Vile, Mehrune's Razor, Oghma Infinium, Ring of Namira, Sanguine Rose, Savior's Hide, Skeleton Key, Skull of Corruption, Spellbreaker, Volendrung, and Wabbajack

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!![/quote:p6bgnjdc]

LOL, Omg, this is too damn funny. Crystal Music thinks having that high of a armor rating MEANS ANYTHING BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. For being a Skyrim Veteran the fact you think your armor rating above the cap means anything is HILARIOUS LOL

Regardless of your displayed armor rating you can never exceed an 80% physical damage reduction, the armor cap. You'll reach the armor cap at 542 displayed armor rating when wearing all four pieces of armor and a shield, 567 without a shield, or 667 when not wearing any armor or shield at all.

Its LITERALLY WASTED STATS LMAO

Then, you go have elemental resistances ON TOP OF HITTING THE MAGIC RESISTANCE CAP LITERALLY WASTING ENCHANTMENT SLOTS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS. Now to be fair though, you could have a 97.75% magic resist towards element if you even HIT 85% elemental resistance, but the fact you didn't do that, just shows how much of a waste of enchantments you picked. Then you have the gall to use Resist Poison when enemies TYPICALLY DON'T USE POISONS in the fucking game is hilarious. Especially if you felt the need to even have that enchantment.

Then considering you are not using the Necromage Perk and being a vampire, you can't truly be immune to spells thanks to the Atronach Perk + Atronach Stone which increases their effectiveness on you even more. Because of this, you are still killable by magic. On top of that, you wouldn't feel the need to have another wasted enchantment slot being Resist Disease.

Then add in the fact you're not using the Chaos Enchantment really shows that your damage would be lacking, it is one of the strongest if not the strongest weapon enchantment you can have, Absorb Health with it or if you wanted to be spicy throw on Paralyze.

Then getting into your other weapon, the fact you're not using Fiery Soul Trap is rather disappointing. But from what I seen, you can't make good builds. Then add onto the fact, you haven't even faced the Ebony Warrior, which has one of the best enchantments in the game (in my opinion) being Regen Health, then combine with the Potion of Fortify Restoration with a Fortify Alchemy enchantment, you can increase your health regeneration to over 1,000,000%. In which case, you could not die realistically.

Skyrim Veteran? More like Skyrim NOOOB LMAO BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is so fucking great. Thanks.[/quote:p6bgnjdc]

i have tested the armor rating caps over time and you know what i found? when i was fighting miraak -the main antagonist of the dragonborn DLC, i found that the cap is not 542. an update changed it to 800 some years ago. i know because i tested this against miraak. i had a DB with 400 AR - got my ass kicked, tried again with 500 AR: still got my ass kicked, 600: still got my ass kicked, 700, stood more of a chance, 800: kicked his ass. 989: saw no difference between 989 and 800, 1200: saw no difference between 800 and 1200. yall need to remember games get updated and have patches. one patch made the cap 800. so with that low rating youll get ur ass kicked by my DB and remember i ignore 75% of any AR. dont beleive everything you read on google! mind you i play on legendary. even legendary difficulty is no challenge to me.

also not having soul trap on a weapon means u cant fill an empty soul gem, without soul gems you cannot recharge your enchanted weaponry making it lose its enchanted damage/s thats why i use the black star over azuras star and a soul snare on one of my weapons, i have an infinitly useable black soul gem - the black star - which can use ANY soul (other than a dragons) to recharge my enchantments, thats why i have a soul snare to make sure my enchantment charge levels stay at maximum! and you say i dont know how to play? i just proved to you i knew more than you let on!

the only 2 potions i use are the fortify blacksmithing and fortify enchanting to increase my weapons and armor stats. i dont need any other potions than those, because my weapons and armor compensate for them. so go ahead waste more carry weight by carrying potions around.

and the reason i use resist poison is simple: like the saying goes: "better to have something and not need it, than need something and not have it". there are a few enemies who use poison like the chaurus whos poison is quite potent especially at higher levels.

all this talk about skyrim has got me wanting to start playing it again after not playing for a month. you tend to get bored when you can litterally kill anything in the game in 1 - 5 hits on legendary difficulty

[quote="CrystalMusic":3fzymcr5][quote="Renji Asuka":3fzymcr5][quote="CrystalMusic":3fzymcr5]Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game. Oh and every Daedric Artifact: Azura's Star/Black Star, Dawnbreaker, Ebony Blade, Ebony Mail, Mace of Molag Bal, Masque of Clavicus Vile, Mehrune's Razor, Oghma Infinium, Ring of Namira, Sanguine Rose, Savior's Hide, Skeleton Key, Skull of Corruption, Spellbreaker, Volendrung, and Wabbajack

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!![/quote:3fzymcr5]

LOL, Omg, this is too damn funny. Crystal Music thinks having that high of a armor rating MEANS ANYTHING BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. For being a Skyrim Veteran the fact you think your armor rating above the cap means anything is HILARIOUS LOL

Regardless of your displayed armor rating you can never exceed an 80% physical damage reduction, the armor cap. You'll reach the armor cap at 542 displayed armor rating when wearing all four pieces of armor and a shield, 567 without a shield, or 667 when not wearing any armor or shield at all.

Its LITERALLY WASTED STATS LMAO

Then, you go have elemental resistances ON TOP OF HITTING THE MAGIC RESISTANCE CAP LITERALLY WASTING ENCHANTMENT SLOTS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS. Now to be fair though, you could have a 97.75% magic resist towards element if you even HIT 85% elemental resistance, but the fact you didn't do that, just shows how much of a waste of enchantments you picked. Then you have the gall to use Resist Poison when enemies TYPICALLY DON'T USE POISONS in the fucking game is hilarious. Especially if you felt the need to even have that enchantment.

Then considering you are not using the Necromage Perk and being a vampire, you can't truly be immune to spells thanks to the Atronach Perk + Atronach Stone which increases their effectiveness on you even more. Because of this, you are still killable by magic. On top of that, you wouldn't feel the need to have another wasted enchantment slot being Resist Disease.

Then add in the fact you're not using the Chaos Enchantment really shows that your damage would be lacking, it is one of the strongest if not the strongest weapon enchantment you can have, Absorb Health with it or if you wanted to be spicy throw on Paralyze.

Then getting into your other weapon, the fact you're not using Fiery Soul Trap is rather disappointing. But from what I seen, you can't make good builds. Then add onto the fact, you haven't even faced the Ebony Warrior, which has one of the best enchantments in the game (in my opinion) being Regen Health, then combine with the Potion of Fortify Restoration with a Fortify Alchemy enchantment, you can increase your health regeneration to over 1,000,000%. In which case, you could not die realistically.

Skyrim Veteran? More like Skyrim NOOOB LMAO BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is so fucking great. Thanks.[/quote:3fzymcr5]

i have tested the armor rating caps over time and you know what i found? when i was fighting miraak -the main antagonist of the dragonborn DLC, i found that the cap is not 542. an update changed it to 800 some years ago. i know because i tested this against miraak. i had a DB with 400 AR - got my ass kicked, tried again with 500 AR: still got my ass kicked, 600: still got my ass kicked, 700, stood more of a chance, 800: kicked his ass. 989: saw no difference between 989 and 800, 1200: saw no difference between 800 and 1200. yall need to remember games get updated and have patches. one patch made the cap 800. so with that low rating youll get ur ass kicked by my DB and remember i ignore 75% of any AR. dont beleive everything you read on google! mind you i play on legendary. even legendary difficulty is no challenge to me.

also not having soul trap on a weapon means u cant fill an empty soul gem, without soul gems you cannot recharge your enchanted weaponry making it lose its enchanted damage/s thats why i use the black star over azuras star and a soul snare on one of my weapons, i have an infinitly useable black soul gem - the black star - which can use ANY soul (other than a dragons) to recharge my enchantments, thats why i have a soul snare to make sure my enchantment charge levels stay at maximum! and you say i dont know how to play? i just proved to you i knew more than you let on!

the only 2 potions i use are the fortify blacksmithing and fortify enchanting to increase my weapons and armor stats. i dont need any other potions than those, because my weapons and armor compensate for them. so go ahead waste more carry weight by carrying potions around.[/quote:3fzymcr5]

So again. I can outlive your damage because of armor rating and because the equation for armor rating to damage reduction from physical attacks is 1:.12 the 1 representing armor rating number, the .12 representing damage reduced.

Therefore. The current stats I have. Can reduce your warhammer to negative damage because of the combined armor rating being 1,232 and the physical damage resistance becomes 152% when dragon aspect is applied. All achieved while wearing 3 pieces of dwarven armor and one piece of dragonplate AND including the 20% frost resistance. Thus making your warhammer do 0 damage to me.

[quote="LightCaster":2vgsn760][quote="CrystalMusic":2vgsn760][quote="Renji Asuka":2vgsn760]

LOL, Omg, this is too damn funny. Crystal Music thinks having that high of a armor rating MEANS ANYTHING BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. For being a Skyrim Veteran the fact you think your armor rating above the cap means anything is HILARIOUS LOL

Regardless of your displayed armor rating you can never exceed an 80% physical damage reduction, the armor cap. You'll reach the armor cap at 542 displayed armor rating when wearing all four pieces of armor and a shield, 567 without a shield, or 667 when not wearing any armor or shield at all.

Its LITERALLY WASTED STATS LMAO

Then, you go have elemental resistances ON TOP OF HITTING THE MAGIC RESISTANCE CAP LITERALLY WASTING ENCHANTMENT SLOTS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS. Now to be fair though, you could have a 97.75% magic resist towards element if you even HIT 85% elemental resistance, but the fact you didn't do that, just shows how much of a waste of enchantments you picked. Then you have the gall to use Resist Poison when enemies TYPICALLY DON'T USE POISONS in the fucking game is hilarious. Especially if you felt the need to even have that enchantment.

Then considering you are not using the Necromage Perk and being a vampire, you can't truly be immune to spells thanks to the Atronach Perk + Atronach Stone which increases their effectiveness on you even more. Because of this, you are still killable by magic. On top of that, you wouldn't feel the need to have another wasted enchantment slot being Resist Disease.

Then add in the fact you're not using the Chaos Enchantment really shows that your damage would be lacking, it is one of the strongest if not the strongest weapon enchantment you can have, Absorb Health with it or if you wanted to be spicy throw on Paralyze.

Then getting into your other weapon, the fact you're not using Fiery Soul Trap is rather disappointing. But from what I seen, you can't make good builds. Then add onto the fact, you haven't even faced the Ebony Warrior, which has one of the best enchantments in the game (in my opinion) being Regen Health, then combine with the Potion of Fortify Restoration with a Fortify Alchemy enchantment, you can increase your health regeneration to over 1,000,000%. In which case, you could not die realistically.

Skyrim Veteran? More like Skyrim NOOOB LMAO BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is so fucking great. Thanks.[/quote:2vgsn760]

i have tested the armor rating caps over time and you know what i found? when i was fighting miraak -the main antagonist of the dragonborn DLC, i found that the cap is not 542. an update changed it to 800 some years ago. i know because i tested this against miraak. i had a DB with 400 AR - got my ass kicked, tried again with 500 AR: still got my ass kicked, 600: still got my ass kicked, 700, stood more of a chance, 800: kicked his ass. 989: saw no difference between 989 and 800, 1200: saw no difference between 800 and 1200. yall need to remember games get updated and have patches. one patch made the cap 800. so with that low rating youll get ur ass kicked by my DB and remember i ignore 75% of any AR. dont beleive everything you read on google! mind you i play on legendary. even legendary difficulty is no challenge to me.

also not having soul trap on a weapon means u cant fill an empty soul gem, without soul gems you cannot recharge your enchanted weaponry making it lose its enchanted damage/s thats why i use the black star over azuras star and a soul snare on one of my weapons, i have an infinitly useable black soul gem - the black star - which can use ANY soul (other than a dragons) to recharge my enchantments, thats why i have a soul snare to make sure my enchantment charge levels stay at maximum! and you say i dont know how to play? i just proved to you i knew more than you let on!

the only 2 potions i use are the fortify blacksmithing and fortify enchanting to increase my weapons and armor stats. i dont need any other potions than those, because my weapons and armor compensate for them. so go ahead waste more carry weight by carrying potions around.[/quote:2vgsn760]

So again. I can outlive your damage because of armor rating and because the equation for armor rating to damage reduction from physical attacks is 1:.12 the 1 representing armor rating number, the .12 representing damage reduced.

Therefore. The current stats I have. Can reduce your warhammer to negative damage because of the combined armor rating being 1,232 and the physical damage resistance becomes 152% when dragon aspect is applied. All achieved while wearing 3 pieces of dwarven armor and one piece of dragonplate AND including the 20% frost resistance. Thus making your warhammer do 0 damage to me.[/quote:2vgsn760]

the max is 1200 so the only way your dwarven armor got that much is using mods, in which case if youre using mods i win cas ur cheating. dwarven armor is low end heavy armor, daedric armor is the most powerful heavy armor, even more so than dragonplate.

better yet ill just hit you with wabbajack, turn you into a chicken. then leave you alone, why? if one game (zelda) has ever taught me anything: its that you dont hit chickens!

[quote="CrystalMusic":p8obzv1w][quote="LightCaster":p8obzv1w][quote="CrystalMusic":p8obzv1w]

i have tested the armor rating caps over time and you know what i found? when i was fighting miraak -the main antagonist of the dragonborn DLC, i found that the cap is not 542. an update changed it to 800 some years ago. i know because i tested this against miraak. i had a DB with 400 AR - got my ass kicked, tried again with 500 AR: still got my ass kicked, 600: still got my ass kicked, 700, stood more of a chance, 800: kicked his ass. 989: saw no difference between 989 and 800, 1200: saw no difference between 800 and 1200. yall need to remember games get updated and have patches. one patch made the cap 800. so with that low rating youll get ur ass kicked by my DB and remember i ignore 75% of any AR. dont beleive everything you read on google! mind you i play on legendary. even legendary difficulty is no challenge to me.

also not having soul trap on a weapon means u cant fill an empty soul gem, without soul gems you cannot recharge your enchanted weaponry making it lose its enchanted damage/s thats why i use the black star over azuras star and a soul snare on one of my weapons, i have an infinitly useable black soul gem - the black star - which can use ANY soul (other than a dragons) to recharge my enchantments, thats why i have a soul snare to make sure my enchantment charge levels stay at maximum! and you say i dont know how to play? i just proved to you i knew more than you let on!

the only 2 potions i use are the fortify blacksmithing and fortify enchanting to increase my weapons and armor stats. i dont need any other potions than those, because my weapons and armor compensate for them. so go ahead waste more carry weight by carrying potions around.[/quote:p8obzv1w]

So again. I can outlive your damage because of armor rating and because the equation for armor rating to damage reduction from physical attacks is 1:.12 the 1 representing armor rating number, the .12 representing damage reduced.

Therefore. The current stats I have. Can reduce your warhammer to negative damage because of the combined armor rating being 1,232 and the physical damage resistance becomes 152% when dragon aspect is applied. All achieved while wearing 3 pieces of dwarven armor and one piece of dragonplate AND including the 20% frost resistance. Thus making your warhammer do 0 damage to me.[/quote:p8obzv1w]

the max is 1200 so the only way u got that much is using mods, in which case if youre using mods i win cas ur cheating.[/quote:p8obzv1w]

Fine. Guess I'll show my math.

Dragonplate Helm: 22
Dwarven Curiass: 34
Dwarven Gauntlets: 13
Dwarven Boots: 13

Total unenchanted: 189 armor rating. Physical damage reduced: 22.68%

Juggernaut 5/5 Perk: Increases armor rating by 100% from heavy Armor
Well Fitted Perk: Increases Armor rating by 25% if wearing all heavy armor

A level 6 Fortify Heavy Armor enchantment has a magnitude of 25.

Dwarven Smithing increases how much Dwarven armor can be upgraded

Dragon Smithing increases how much Dragon armor can be upgraded

With the proper perks and level 100 Smithing this armor is now AR: 241 with a damage reduction of 28.91%

With level 6 fortify smithing. The AR is now: 1444 with the maxed damage reduction of 80%

Dragon aspect increases armor rating by 125%

So, 1444+100%+25%+125% equals an armor rating of 8,122.5. Which with an uncapped damage reduction would equal 974.7% of physical damage alone. And this is without fortify heavy armor enchantments or potions and not including elemental resistances.

This is without mods and ONLY the dragonborn DLC.

Being a vampire adds onto this because of Dragon Aspect's duration: 5 minutes.

If you have the necromage perk from the level 70 Restoration tree. Dragon Aspect now lasts 50% longer. therefore making Dragon Aspect last 7.5 minutes. Maintaining the buffs of +125% armor rating, +20% fire resistance, +20% frost resistance for that 7.5 minutes.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1juvvqj3]better yet ill just hit you with wabbajack, turn you into a chicken. then leave you alone, why? if one game (zelda) has ever taught me anything: its that you dont hit chickens![/quote:1juvvqj3]
They're called Cuccos you noob.

[quote="Darkraiclone":8e3fmf3f][quote="CrystalMusic":8e3fmf3f]better yet ill just hit you with wabbajack, turn you into a chicken. then leave you alone, why? if one game (zelda) has ever taught me anything: its that you dont hit chickens![/quote:8e3fmf3f]
They're called Cuccos you noob.[/quote:8e3fmf3f]

i already knew that, but its still a fucking chicken!!!

[quote="CrystalMusic":1ggr600l][quote="Darkraiclone":1ggr600l][quote="CrystalMusic":1ggr600l]better yet ill just hit you with wabbajack, turn you into a chicken. then leave you alone, why? if one game (zelda) has ever taught me anything: its that you dont hit chickens![/quote:1ggr600l]
They're called Cuccos you noob.[/quote:1ggr600l]

i already knew that, but its still a fucking chicken!!![/quote:1ggr600l]
Lol, for someone who loves to prattle on about their knowledge on games, at least have enough decency to refer to an animal in that game by its proper name, idiot.

bottom line is; due to Wabbajack turning you into a chicken: You aint to threat to me, as if you were before?

[quote="CrystalMusic":21ph7tsx]bottom line is; due to Wabbajack turning you into a chicken: You aint to threat to me, as if you were before?[/quote:21ph7tsx]

I love how you call me out for cheating, yet would just resort to the random dice roll of the wabbajack

You realize the Wabbajack has a 1/33 chance of getting the chicken?

That means out of 33 attempts, you'll get 1 attempt that will yearn the chicken.

[quote="LightCaster":rwtr64sx][quote="CrystalMusic":rwtr64sx]bottom line is; due to Wabbajack turning you into a chicken: You aint to threat to me, as if you were before?[/quote:rwtr64sx]

I love how you call me out for cheating, yet would just resort to the random dice roll of the wabbajack

You realize the Wabbajack has a 1/33 chance of getting the chicken?

That means out of 33 attempts, you'll get 1 attempt that will yearn the chicken.[/quote:rwtr64sx]

ok... would you rather play with mods? i made some of my own!

[quote="CrystalMusic":2wxiajit][quote="LightCaster":2wxiajit][quote="CrystalMusic":2wxiajit]bottom line is; due to Wabbajack turning you into a chicken: You aint to threat to me, as if you were before?[/quote:2wxiajit]

I love how you call me out for cheating, yet would just resort to the random dice roll of the wabbajack

You realize the Wabbajack has a 1/33 chance of getting the chicken?

That means out of 33 attempts, you'll get 1 attempt that will yearn the chicken.[/quote:2wxiajit]

ok... would you rather play with mods? i made some of my own![/quote:2wxiajit]
I bet one of those mods guarantees that the Wabbajack transforms its target into a chicken 100% of the time.

[quote="CrystalMusic":35js06xq][quote="LightCaster":35js06xq][quote="CrystalMusic":35js06xq]bottom line is; due to Wabbajack turning you into a chicken: You aint to threat to me, as if you were before?[/quote:35js06xq]

I love how you call me out for cheating, yet would just resort to the random dice roll of the wabbajack

You realize the Wabbajack has a 1/33 chance of getting the chicken?

That means out of 33 attempts, you'll get 1 attempt that will yearn the chicken.[/quote:35js06xq]

ok... would you rather play with mods? i made some of my own![/quote:35js06xq]

HA! Like you've made your own mods. You can barely figure out that you can use screen recording software to record stuff on your PC instead of your phone. Yet you expect me to believe you've made mods? That's a riot.

[quote="LightCaster":1lh20wme][quote="CrystalMusic":1lh20wme]
HA! Like you've made your own mods. You can barely figure out that you can use screen recording software to record stuff on your PC instead of your phone. Yet you expect me to believe you've made mods? That's a riot.[/quote:1lh20wme][/quote:1lh20wme]
Not to mention he actually need help in setting up a discord server.

Is crystal expecting us to believe he can make a mod when he couldn't even figure out discord two factor authentication or even basic screen capture software?

[quote="Debt":2a53c0jt]Is crystal expecting us to believe he can make a mod when he couldn't even figure out discord two factor authentication or even basic screen capture software?[/quote:2a53c0jt]

Yes, because I used the power of mathmatics to explain to him how even if he were to use the Wabbajack in Skyrim pvp. I'd be able to beat him.

[quote="Debt":19nvmwup]Is crystal expecting us to believe he can make a mod when he couldn't even figure out discord two factor authentication or even basic screen capture software?[/quote:19nvmwup]
Let's not forget that he believes that you can't live stream N64 games, even though there are tons of videos and archived streams that say otherwise. CrystalMusic is an absolute moron when it comes to technology.

[quote="Darkraiclone":1zmt1oy2]CrystalMusic is an absolute moron[/quote:1zmt1oy2]
could've stopped there and it'd actually be more true

[quote="CrystalMusic":21gastpc][quote="Renji Asuka":21gastpc][quote="CrystalMusic":21gastpc]Everything i have on Skyrim:
level: 76
(stats before counting enchantments) 250 magika, 400 health and 400 stamina
- heavy armor, smithing, enchanting, alteration, conjuration, light armor, two handed, one handed, block, sneak, lock picking, enchantment all at 100 - one skill in the one handed and one skill in the two handed allows my maces and warhammer ignore 75% of all armor ratings

Enchantments: Rings Grant: Resist Fire 70%, Resist Frost 70%, Necklaces Grant: Resist Shock 70%, Resist Magic of 85%. Gauntlets Grant: Fortify One Handed 140%, Fortify Two Handed: 188%. I also got: Resist Poison 85%, Resist Disease 100%, Shout Cooldown 20%, 1180 armor rating each with health and stamina increase of 100 for a total of 800 health and 800 stamina, 2 Dragonbone Maces that deal 365 damage and are enchanted with the following: Mace 1: Absorb Stamina of 100, Absorb Magika of 100, Mace 2: Absorb health of 100 and a Soul Snare. A Dragonbone Warhammer that deals 350 damage and Enchanted with Frost Damage of 100 and Shock Damage of 100.

I have every shout in the game (and all DLCs and their words of power) i have arvak a conjurable horse, i have shadowmere the horse from the dark brotherhood, and another horse called frost. i have every house in the game and dlcs, im thane of every hold, im friends with like 95% of skyrims population and 80% of Solstheims population, i own all 3 custom house plots. and despite i rarely use them i do have about 90% of all the spells in the game. Oh and every Daedric Artifact: Azura's Star/Black Star, Dawnbreaker, Ebony Blade, Ebony Mail, Mace of Molag Bal, Masque of Clavicus Vile, Mehrune's Razor, Oghma Infinium, Ring of Namira, Sanguine Rose, Savior's Hide, Skeleton Key, Skull of Corruption, Spellbreaker, Volendrung, and Wabbajack

Powers: Dragon Aspect - Dragonborn DLC which grants me: 25% increase for power attacks, a 125% increase in armor rating, a 25% increase for fire resistance and frost resistance, more powerful shouts, and a 20% decrease in shout recharge time. Dragonborn Flame - Dragonborn DLC which does the following: Creates a Fire Wyvern from the corpse of a foe killed by the Fire Breath shout - this also includes if i kill conjured enemies too. Bones of Earth - Dragonborn DLC: Reduces all incoming physical damage by 80% for 30 seconds, Secret of Protection - Dragonborn DLC: I take half damage for 30 seconds. Mora's Boon - Dragonborn DLC: Fully restores my Health, Magicka and Stamina, Seeker of Might - Dragonborn DLC: Combat Skills are 10% more effective, Lovers Insight - Dragonborn DLC: Do 10% more damage and get 10% better prices from people of the opposite sex, Blessing of Boethiah - Dragonborn DLC: One-handed weapons do 10% more damage, Frostmoon Predator - Dragonborn DLC Ring: While in Beast Form, your health regenerates, Bend Will Shout - Dragonborn DLC: allows me to take control of creatures, dragons and mortals. lets not forget werewolf form and call dragon shout which calls Odahviing the dragon to aid me in battle, can also call durnehviir a dragon from the soul carin to aid me in my fight, and i also can use call of valor which summons a hero from sovngarde to aid me in my fight, and to finalize this: i also got Neloth a master wizard as a follower - Dragonborn DLC

in short, i got better armor, better armor rating, better weapons, better weapon damage, better enchantments, betters skills, better shouts, more health, more stamina, and i can take control of you or any of your dragons, conjured creatures or followers, i have 9 assistants to aid me in battle + myself for a total of 10 enemies to contend with! yeah best of luck!!![/quote:21gastpc]

LOL, Omg, this is too damn funny. Crystal Music thinks having that high of a armor rating MEANS ANYTHING BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. For being a Skyrim Veteran the fact you think your armor rating above the cap means anything is HILARIOUS LOL

Regardless of your displayed armor rating you can never exceed an 80% physical damage reduction, the armor cap. You'll reach the armor cap at 542 displayed armor rating when wearing all four pieces of armor and a shield, 567 without a shield, or 667 when not wearing any armor or shield at all.

Its LITERALLY WASTED STATS LMAO

Then, you go have elemental resistances ON TOP OF HITTING THE MAGIC RESISTANCE CAP LITERALLY WASTING ENCHANTMENT SLOTS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS. Now to be fair though, you could have a 97.75% magic resist towards element if you even HIT 85% elemental resistance, but the fact you didn't do that, just shows how much of a waste of enchantments you picked. Then you have the gall to use Resist Poison when enemies TYPICALLY DON'T USE POISONS in the fucking game is hilarious. Especially if you felt the need to even have that enchantment.

Then considering you are not using the Necromage Perk and being a vampire, you can't truly be immune to spells thanks to the Atronach Perk + Atronach Stone which increases their effectiveness on you even more. Because of this, you are still killable by magic. On top of that, you wouldn't feel the need to have another wasted enchantment slot being Resist Disease.

Then add in the fact you're not using the Chaos Enchantment really shows that your damage would be lacking, it is one of the strongest if not the strongest weapon enchantment you can have, Absorb Health with it or if you wanted to be spicy throw on Paralyze.

Then getting into your other weapon, the fact you're not using Fiery Soul Trap is rather disappointing. But from what I seen, you can't make good builds. Then add onto the fact, you haven't even faced the Ebony Warrior, which has one of the best enchantments in the game (in my opinion) being Regen Health, then combine with the Potion of Fortify Restoration with a Fortify Alchemy enchantment, you can increase your health regeneration to over 1,000,000%. In which case, you could not die realistically.

Skyrim Veteran? More like Skyrim NOOOB LMAO BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This is so fucking great. Thanks.[/quote:21gastpc]

i have tested the armor rating caps over time and you know what i found? when i was fighting miraak -the main antagonist of the dragonborn DLC, i found that the cap is not 542. an update changed it to 800 some years ago. i know because i tested this against miraak. i had a DB with 400 AR - got my ass kicked, tried again with 500 AR: still got my ass kicked, 600: still got my ass kicked, 700, stood more of a chance, 800: kicked his ass. 989: saw no difference between 989 and 800, 1200: saw no difference between 800 and 1200. yall need to remember games get updated and have patches. one patch made the cap 800. so with that low rating youll get ur ass kicked by my DB and remember i ignore 75% of any AR. dont beleive everything you read on google! mind you i play on legendary. even legendary difficulty is no challenge to me.

also not having soul trap on a weapon means u cant fill an empty soul gem, without soul gems you cannot recharge your enchanted weaponry making it lose its enchanted damage/s thats why i use the black star over azuras star and a soul snare on one of my weapons, i have an infinitly useable black soul gem - the black star - which can use ANY soul (other than a dragons) to recharge my enchantments, thats why i have a soul snare to make sure my enchantment charge levels stay at maximum! and you say i dont know how to play? i just proved to you i knew more than you let on!

the only 2 potions i use are the fortify blacksmithing and fortify enchanting to increase my weapons and armor stats. i dont need any other potions than those, because my weapons and armor compensate for them. so go ahead waste more carry weight by carrying potions around.

and the reason i use resist poison is simple: like the saying goes: "better to have something and not need it, than need something and not have it". there are a few enemies who use poison like the chaurus whos poison is quite potent especially at higher levels.[/quote:21gastpc]
"i have tested the armor rating caps over time and you know what i found? when i was fighting miraak -the main antagonist of the dragonborn DLC, i found that the cap is not 542. an update changed it to 800 some years ago."
Wrong, with how popular Skyrim is and the Elder Scrolls is, while also how easy it is to make mods, if such changes occurred, EVERY MODDER WOULD KNOW IT.

Next, Physical damage reduction is capped at 80%. Which is met by those armor caps I listed. Also onto the "Soul Trap" portion, you're still gimping yourself on damage. Especially since you seem to not know what Fiery Soul Trap is.

Then you state "dont beleive everything you read on google!" Which is SO IRONIC, since you blindly follow the yugioh wiki. Sorry, you're the last person to state such a thing.

Also you honestly think I need potions to beat you? Nah, just to push my enchants to the extreme which is legal, it doesn't matter if you ignore 75% of my armor when I have over 1 million HP with an insane HP Regen, you CAN'T KILL PERIOD.

But glad to know you confirmed you are a Skyrim Noob LOL

You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder!

HAHAHBAHBAHABHABSBYUKSJMFDRE.4ZYUCFDENR367VUDRNB










lol

[quote="CrystalMusic":3sj4ijbq]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:3sj4ijbq]

I just showed you how to get 8k AR legitly. Yet you wanna call out 1m HP modless? Yeah you have fun with that buddy.

[quote="LightCaster":1h8p3eup][quote="CrystalMusic":1h8p3eup]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:1h8p3eup]

I just showed you how to get 8k AR legitly. Yet you wanna call out 1m HP modless? Yeah you have fun with that buddy.[/quote:1h8p3eup]

modless my ass! PROVE IT!

this has gone from "Just for Fun" to "Hot Debate about Skyrim"

[quote="KTeknis":25p7qryr]this has gone from "Just for Fun" to "Hot Debate about Skyrim"[/quote:25p7qryr]
It do be for fun to CM

[quote="CrystalMusic":80wgr4cq][quote="LightCaster":80wgr4cq][quote="CrystalMusic":80wgr4cq]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:80wgr4cq]

I just showed you how to get 8k AR legitly. Yet you wanna call out 1m HP modless? Yeah you have fun with that buddy.[/quote:80wgr4cq]

modless my ass! PROVE IT![/quote:80wgr4cq]

I just showed you the math. Do you want me to show you again?

[quote="CrystalMusic":lguqxeuu][quote="LightCaster":lguqxeuu][quote="CrystalMusic":lguqxeuu]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:lguqxeuu]

I just showed you how to get 8k AR legitly. Yet you wanna call out 1m HP modless? Yeah you have fun with that buddy.[/quote:lguqxeuu]

modless my ass! PROVE IT![/quote:lguqxeuu]

Dragonplate Helm: 22
Dwarven Curiass: 34
Dwarven Gauntlets: 13
Dwarven Boots: 13

Total unenchanted: 189 armor rating. Physical damage reduced: 22.68%

Juggernaut 5/5 Perk: Increases armor rating by 100% from heavy Armor
Well Fitted Perk: Increases Armor rating by 25% if wearing all heavy armor

A level 6 Fortify Heavy Armor enchantment has a magnitude of 25.

Dwarven Smithing increases how much Dwarven armor can be upgraded

Dragon Smithing increases how much Dragon armor can be upgraded

With the proper perks and level 100 Smithing this armor is now AR: 241 with a damage reduction of 28.91%

With level 6 fortify smithing. The AR is now: 1444 with the maxed damage reduction of 80%

Dragon aspect increases armor rating by 125%

So, 1444+100%+25%+125% equals an armor rating of 8,122.5. Which with an uncapped damage reduction would equal 974.7% of physical damage alone. And this is without fortify heavy armor enchantments or potions and not including elemental resistances.

This is without mods and ONLY the dragonborn DLC.

Being a vampire adds onto this because of Dragon Aspect's duration: 5 minutes.

If you have the necromage perk from the level 70 Restoration tree. Dragon Aspect now lasts 50% longer. therefore making Dragon Aspect last 7.5 minutes. Maintaining the buffs of +125% armor rating, +20% fire resistance, +20% frost resistance for that 7.5 minutes.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3vz96by9]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:3vz96by9]
Fortify Restoration potions + Fortify alchemy gear. I was able to figure this out like the first few months of the game being released

[quote="LightCaster":sz906dmc][quote="CrystalMusic":sz906dmc][quote="LightCaster":sz906dmc]

I just showed you how to get 8k AR legitly. Yet you wanna call out 1m HP modless? Yeah you have fun with that buddy.[/quote:sz906dmc]

modless my ass! PROVE IT![/quote:sz906dmc]

I just showed you the math. Do you want me to show you again?[/quote:sz906dmc]

nonono i want PICTURES, live Stream, or Screenshots directly from the game itself. (not a camera from a phone or other device)

[quote="Debt":cm8t0djd][quote="CrystalMusic":cm8t0djd]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:cm8t0djd]
Fortify Restoration potions + Fortify alchemy gear. I was able to figure this out like the first few months of the game being released[/quote:cm8t0djd]

nonono potions dont count here, just your abilities, and gear, passives, things that have no time limit!

[quote="CrystalMusic":7ui9z4bn][quote="LightCaster":7ui9z4bn][quote="CrystalMusic":7ui9z4bn]

modless my ass! PROVE IT![/quote:7ui9z4bn]

I just showed you the math. Do you want me to show you again?[/quote:7ui9z4bn]

nonono i want PICTURES, live Stream, or Screenshots directly from the game itself. (not a camera from a phone or other device)[/quote:7ui9z4bn]

Actually a phone picture would be more believable vs a screenshot because I can photoshop a screenshot.

[quote="LightCaster":3h2st3o6][quote="CrystalMusic":3h2st3o6][quote="LightCaster":3h2st3o6]

I just showed you the math. Do you want me to show you again?[/quote:3h2st3o6]

nonono i want PICTURES, live Stream, or Screenshots directly from the game itself. (not a camera from a phone or other device)[/quote:3h2st3o6]

Actually a phone picture would be more believable vs a screenshot because I can photoshop a screenshot.[/quote:3h2st3o6]

dude, you can photoshop ANYTHING

[quote="CrystalMusic":3cstarnn][quote="LightCaster":3cstarnn][quote="CrystalMusic":3cstarnn]

nonono i want PICTURES, live Stream, or Screenshots directly from the game itself. (not a camera from a phone or other device)[/quote:3cstarnn]

Actually a phone picture would be more believable vs a screenshot because I can photoshop a screenshot.[/quote:3cstarnn]

dude, you can photoshop ANYTHING[/quote:3cstarnn]

So then I can't supply a picture period. Only show my math.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1aigdjti]
nonono potions dont count here, just your abilities, and gear, passives, things that have no time limit![/quote:1aigdjti]
Fortify effects are all under the restoration school, so they're all boosted by fortify restoration. This includes fortify alchemy which makes fortify restoration potions and fortify enchanting. Which means you can enchant gear with millions of HP and damage.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3aknh3zg]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:3aknh3zg]
I don't play with mods. As for the steps on how to do it, here ya go.

1, Equip all your "Fortify Alchemy" apparel.
2, Make a Fortify Restoration potion.
3, Unequip your Fortify Alchemy apparel.
4, Drink the potion.
5, Repeat from step one.
Note: To lock in your exponentially enhanced alchemical power, make an ultra-powered "Fortify Enchantment" potion, then use it to put an ultra-powered "Fortify Alchemy" enchantment on a piece of apparel. Now you can make ultra-potions at will without repeating the grind.

Examples
1, Make items with high-powered Fortify Smithing enchantments. There is no need to go overboard here, as there is a cap on the maximum damage resistance and a point at which a single strike from a weapon will insta-kill any enemy. The maximum rating needed is 642, and a damage rating of around 1,000 will suffice to kill most enemies, while 2,000 should be enough to kill any enemy in one strike even on Legendary settings.
2, A Fortify Health enchantment in the order of several million will guarantee that you never have to worry about any enemy ever again. Doing this though can cause the battle music to stop working so you won't have a warning that you are being attacked. A potion of ultimate healing will restore all of your health, no matter how high it is.
3, In the same way you can fortify your magicka and stamina pools (fortifying stamina will not increase your carry weight capacity). Fortifying your magicka saves having to fortify each school of magic, freeing up several spaces for other enchantments and not limiting which schools you can use freely. At a high enough level, the stamina or magicka bars will stop showing up as you deplete them.
4, A Fortify Carry Weight enchantment will enable you to carry every bit of loot a dungeon contains, and not have to worry about the value/weight ratio ever again.
5, Drinking an overpowered Fortify Restoration potion prior to equipping an Amulet of Talos will eliminate all cooldowns on Dragon Shouts. The effect will be lost if the amulet is removed.
6, Other enchantments to consider are Fortify Unarmed Damage (making it a viable combat option), Resist Magic, and Resist Poison.

And its only using the game's mechanics, of course you would also need specific perks to REALLY go crazy and best to have Alchemy at 100 as well as Restoration if I recall. I'd have to get on Skyrim to see the perks though.

And FYI, yes there is an armor cap, and no matter how good you think you are, I can 1 shot you. Hell I can even 1 punch you.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2gvb33lm]Alch+Resto+Enchant loop.[/quote:2gvb33lm]
I don't expect crystal to understand this even when directly spoonfed all the details.

[quote="Debt":2xk1mjki][quote="Renji Asuka":2xk1mjki]Alch+Resto+Enchant loop.[/quote:2xk1mjki]
I don't expect crystal to understand this even when directly spoonfed all the details.[/quote:2xk1mjki]
The fact he doesn't understand that its part of the building process for a character, and thinks you only use the potions in combat is pathetic. Literally locking out an entire game mechanic cause he knows he'd get beat.

[quote="Renji Asuka":15hwl92n]
The fact he doesn't understand that its part of the building process for a character, and thinks you only use the potions in combat is pathetic. Literally locking out an entire game mechanic cause he knows he'd get beat.[/quote:15hwl92n]
It'd be funny to use the pickpocket poisoning perk and paralyze his character for several days

[quote="Debt":2pw2xtiv][quote="Renji Asuka":2pw2xtiv]
The fact he doesn't understand that its part of the building process for a character, and thinks you only use the potions in combat is pathetic. Literally locking out an entire game mechanic cause he knows he'd get beat.[/quote:2pw2xtiv]
It'd be funny to use the pickpocket poisoning perk and paralyze his character for several days[/quote:2pw2xtiv]
Lmao, its super easy to level pickpocketing, doing that whole loop, slip it in, then pickpocket his armor/weapons and have him on "display" would be hilarious

[quote="CrystalMusic":31qprimt]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly?[/quote:31qprimt]
More believable than anything you've ever said ever.

[quote="CrystalMusic":14793ixw][quote="Debt":14793ixw][quote="CrystalMusic":14793ixw]You expect me to believe you got 1,000,000 HP legitly? HA! You're even more delusional than I thought. PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN also show all settings, boons, and mods!

Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder![/quote:14793ixw]
Fortify Restoration potions + Fortify alchemy gear. I was able to figure this out like the first few months of the game being released[/quote:14793ixw]

nonono potions dont count here, just your abilities, and gear, passives, things that have no time limit![/quote:14793ixw]
I know he edited the reply, but... wasn't this him changing the "rules" of having 1M HP legitimately midway discussion?

Also, quite funny of him demanding proof when he creates dozen of "sigh" topics of anecdotal situations without a single replay to prove or even illustrate his issues with something.

[quote="Debt":2aieu1wm][quote="Renji Asuka":2aieu1wm]
The fact he doesn't understand that its part of the building process for a character, and thinks you only use the potions in combat is pathetic. Literally locking out an entire game mechanic cause he knows he'd get beat.[/quote:2aieu1wm]
It'd be funny to use the pickpocket poisoning perk and paralyze his character for several days[/quote:2aieu1wm]

like id be stupid enough to let you pickpocket me? im aware of the pick pocketing perk: "Poisoned" despite i have never used pickpocketing outside of the essential quests like: "A Chance Arrangement" in Riften with Brynjolf where you have to steal Madesi's ring - the Argonian, from one of the market stalls and plant it in the Dark Elf, Brand-Shei's, pocket. You cant get the Daedric Item: The Skeleton Key, which is an unbreakable lockpick OR continue the main quest "A Cornered Rat" where you need to find Esbern in the Riften Ratway Warrens without first completing "A Chance Arrangement"

unlike you, i dont need to rely on pickpocketing to make my gold, i do quests, loot everything as long as it doesnt say "Steal", i also sell off everything i dont care about keeping like spare weapons and armor that are weaker than my currently equipped weapons and armor. Im all my time i have played skyrim this is how i managed to get to 5 million gold.

in a hand-to hand combat yall would lose to my dragonborn. oh and i dont need to rely on poison, paralyzation, or other cheap tactics like that to win,if im on my character who is called: Rivak-Grohiik Do Nahkriin (which is skyrim dragon language for Sacred Wolf of Vengeance) All i ever need is my heavy armor, my maces and warhammer (and a bow only early on in the game for taking down dragons that are flying until i get the dragonrend shout, from then on i only use my warhammer or maces) i dont need potions, poisons, pickpocketing, sneak, or any of those other skills to battle. im a warrior, not a thief.

I have used magic once in the game and its ok. but i only have one character who has combat magic: my high elf: Adhikon Periffdious (its my go to name for my mages) when i use magic i use lightning against other mages, vampires, magical creatures like atronachs, and dragons as electrical attacks reduce the targets magicka which renders other mages and even dragons attacks useless. a shout is a form of old magic according to skyrim and i have personally seen that if you use shock on a dragon it cannot attack with its fire or frost so it is then reduced to using its jaws, wings and tail for attacking. all other targets like humans, werewolves, undead, etc i use flame. i have a mage who can continuously cast flame and shock from the road you follow form helgen cave all the way to the front gate of whiterun before running out of magicka while walking at the pace the NPC walk in towns, and, due to all my passives, all that magicka fully regens in under 7 seconds resulting in a "Seemingly" infinite amount of magicka. once again: heavy armor with tons of health and magicka increasing abilities, same with my rings and necklaces. i can make a mage with over 3000 magicka. when it comes to my mages i dont care about stamina, its all maximum magicka, overall magic damage, resistance to other magic such as shock, which would reduce my overall magicka remaining, resistance to melee, and increasing maximum health. once again daedric armor.

Me IRL:

[quote="CrystalMusic":2736e9gx]

unlike you, i dont need to rely on pickpocketing to make my gold, i do quests, loot everything as long as it doesnt say "Steal", i also sell off everything i dont care about keeping like spare weapons and armor that are weaker than my currently equipped weapons and armor. Im all my time i have played skyrim this is how i managed to get to 5 million gold.[/quote:2736e9gx]
None of this matters. If your character went up against an alch loop character and you're not using alch loop, you lose. End of discussion. You can't beat 0 cooldown shouts, hundreds of thousands of damage per weapon swing, health so high it causes rollover, near limitless stamina and magicka. Pickpocket poisoning you for literal real time days is just 1 thing an alch loop character can do.

[quote="CrystalMusic":g7qp100q]in a hand-to hand combat yall would lose to my dragonborn. oh and i dont need to rely on poison, paralyzation, or other cheap tactics like that to win,if im on my character who is called: Rivak-Grohiik Do Nahkriin (which is skyrim dragon language for Sacred Wolf of Vengeance) All i ever need is my heavy armor, my maces and warhammer (and a bow only early on in the game for taking down dragons that are flying until i get the dragonrend shout, from then on i only use my warhammer or maces) i dont need potions, poisons, pickpocketing, sneak, or any of those other skills to battle. im a warrior, not a thief.

I have used magic once in the game and its ok. but i only have one character who has combat magic: my high elf: Adhikon Periffdious (its my go to name for my mages) when i use magic i use lightning against other mages, vampires, magical creatures like atronachs, and dragons as electrical attacks reduce the targets magicka which renders other mages and even dragons attacks useless. a shout is a form of old magic according to skyrim and i have personally seen that if you use shock on a dragon it cannot attack with its fire or frost so it is then reduced to using its jaws, wings and tail for attacking. all other targets like humans, werewolves, undead, etc i use flame. i have a mage who can continuously cast flame and shock from the road you follow form helgen cave all the way to the front gate of whiterun before running out of magicka while walking at the pace the NPC walk in towns, and, due to all my passives, all that magicka fully regens in under 7 seconds resulting in a "Seemingly" infinite amount of magicka. once again: heavy armor with tons of health and magicka increasing abilities, same with my rings and necklaces. i can make a mage with over 3000 magicka. when it comes to my mages i dont care about stamina, its all maximum magicka, overall magic damage, resistance to other magic such as shock, which would reduce my overall magicka remaining, resistance to melee, and increasing maximum health. once again daedric armor.[/quote:g7qp100q]


Again. I just showed that I can nullify physical damage and give myself practically infinite health and magicka all while wearing dwarven armor. So idk why you still think you'd beat me. And don't say the wabbajack again. The effect you want from the wabbajack is a 1/33 chance of getting and there is 0 way to increase these chances. You cannot take control of conjured creatures or Odahviing/Durneviir. Only use Dragonrend at best. I have shown you all my resistances so again, you wouldn't beat me.

[quote="Debt":45s4y8rl][quote="CrystalMusic":45s4y8rl]

unlike you, i dont need to rely on pickpocketing to make my gold, i do quests, loot everything as long as it doesnt say "Steal", i also sell off everything i dont care about keeping like spare weapons and armor that are weaker than my currently equipped weapons and armor. Im all my time i have played skyrim this is how i managed to get to 5 million gold.[/quote:45s4y8rl]
None of this matters. If your character went up against an alch loop character and you're not using alch loop, you lose. End of discussion. You can't beat 0 cooldown shouts, hundreds of thousands of damage per weapon swing, health so high it causes rollover, near limitless stamina and magicka. Pickpocket poisoning you for literal real time days is just 1 thing an alch loop character can do.[/quote:45s4y8rl]

again, ur using mods if you have 0 shout cooldown and doing 1000+ damage with a weapon, having MILLIONS of health, limitless stamina and magicka. so i win immediately cas you are cheating using mods against my LEGIT setup. SCREENSHOTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. END OF ARGUMENT!

[quote="LightCaster":21nvlse8][quote="CrystalMusic":21nvlse8]in a hand-to hand combat yall would lose to my dragonborn. oh and i dont need to rely on poison, paralyzation, or other cheap tactics like that to win,if im on my character who is called: Rivak-Grohiik Do Nahkriin (which is skyrim dragon language for Sacred Wolf of Vengeance) All i ever need is my heavy armor, my maces and warhammer (and a bow only early on in the game for taking down dragons that are flying until i get the dragonrend shout, from then on i only use my warhammer or maces) i dont need potions, poisons, pickpocketing, sneak, or any of those other skills to battle. im a warrior, not a thief.

I have used magic once in the game and its ok. but i only have one character who has combat magic: my high elf: Adhikon Periffdious (its my go to name for my mages) when i use magic i use lightning against other mages, vampires, magical creatures like atronachs, and dragons as electrical attacks reduce the targets magicka which renders other mages and even dragons attacks useless. a shout is a form of old magic according to skyrim and i have personally seen that if you use shock on a dragon it cannot attack with its fire or frost so it is then reduced to using its jaws, wings and tail for attacking. all other targets like humans, werewolves, undead, etc i use flame. i have a mage who can continuously cast flame and shock from the road you follow form helgen cave all the way to the front gate of whiterun before running out of magicka while walking at the pace the NPC walk in towns, and, due to all my passives, all that magicka fully regens in under 7 seconds resulting in a "Seemingly" infinite amount of magicka. once again: heavy armor with tons of health and magicka increasing abilities, same with my rings and necklaces. i can make a mage with over 3000 magicka. when it comes to my mages i dont care about stamina, its all maximum magicka, overall magic damage, resistance to other magic such as shock, which would reduce my overall magicka remaining, resistance to melee, and increasing maximum health. once again daedric armor.[/quote:21nvlse8]


Again. I just showed that I can nullify physical damage and give myself practically infinite health and magicka all while wearing dwarven armor. So idk why you still think you'd beat me. And don't say the wabbajack again. The effect you want from the wabbajack is a 1/33 chance of getting and there is 0 way to increase these chances. You cannot take control of conjured creatures or Odahviing/Durneviir. Only use Dragonrend at best. I have shown you all my resistances so again, you wouldn't beat me.[/quote:21nvlse8]

this is proof you dont have the Dragonborn DLC, the bend will shout lets you take control of creatures, dragons and mortals.
i have played skyrim long enough to know the games DLC's better than most.
dont forget the dragonborn himself is a mortal with the soul of a dragon, so i can use bend will on your dragonborn as well.
BTW im talking console not pc so you must also use console to level the playing field. BTW PS4. PC has much more than console so its only fair that you have to use PS4 just like me to keep it fair.
oh and thanks for showing the world that you have no idea what you are talking about. because the bend will show allows its user to control ANY dragon, ANY mortal or ANY creature

[quote="CrystalMusic":lmxbd6rn][quote="LightCaster":lmxbd6rn][quote="CrystalMusic":lmxbd6rn]in a hand-to hand combat yall would lose to my dragonborn. oh and i dont need to rely on poison, paralyzation, or other cheap tactics like that to win,if im on my character who is called: Rivak-Grohiik Do Nahkriin (which is skyrim dragon language for Sacred Wolf of Vengeance) All i ever need is my heavy armor, my maces and warhammer (and a bow only early on in the game for taking down dragons that are flying until i get the dragonrend shout, from then on i only use my warhammer or maces) i dont need potions, poisons, pickpocketing, sneak, or any of those other skills to battle. im a warrior, not a thief.

I have used magic once in the game and its ok. but i only have one character who has combat magic: my high elf: Adhikon Periffdious (its my go to name for my mages) when i use magic i use lightning against other mages, vampires, magical creatures like atronachs, and dragons as electrical attacks reduce the targets magicka which renders other mages and even dragons attacks useless. a shout is a form of old magic according to skyrim and i have personally seen that if you use shock on a dragon it cannot attack with its fire or frost so it is then reduced to using its jaws, wings and tail for attacking. all other targets like humans, werewolves, undead, etc i use flame. i have a mage who can continuously cast flame and shock from the road you follow form helgen cave all the way to the front gate of whiterun before running out of magicka while walking at the pace the NPC walk in towns, and, due to all my passives, all that magicka fully regens in under 7 seconds resulting in a "Seemingly" infinite amount of magicka. once again: heavy armor with tons of health and magicka increasing abilities, same with my rings and necklaces. i can make a mage with over 3000 magicka. when it comes to my mages i dont care about stamina, its all maximum magicka, overall magic damage, resistance to other magic such as shock, which would reduce my overall magicka remaining, resistance to melee, and increasing maximum health. once again daedric armor.[/quote:lmxbd6rn]


Again. I just showed that I can nullify physical damage and give myself practically infinite health and magicka all while wearing dwarven armor. So idk why you still think you'd beat me. And don't say the wabbajack again. The effect you want from the wabbajack is a 1/33 chance of getting and there is 0 way to increase these chances. You cannot take control of conjured creatures or Odahviing/Durneviir. Only use Dragonrend at best. I have shown you all my resistances so again, you wouldn't beat me.[/quote:lmxbd6rn]

this is proof you dont have the Dragonborn DLC, the bend will shout lets you take control of creatures, dragons and mortals.
i have played skyrim long enough to know the games DLC's better than most.
dont forget the dragonborn himself is a mortal with the soul of a dragon, so i can use bend will on your dragonborn as well.
BTW im talking console not pc so you must also use console to level the playing field. BTW PS4. PC has much more than console so its only fair that you have to use PS4 just like me to keep it fair.
oh and thanks for showing the world that you have no idea what you are talking about. because the bend will show allows its user to control ANY dragon, ANY mortal or ANY creature[/quote:lmxbd6rn]

Undead are immune to the effects of Bend Will. If I am a vampire. I am considered undead. Which is why I benefit from the Necromage perk. Durneviir's AI does not register Bend Will even though he is targetable. This is a bug on all versions of the game. Also it is not a guarantee that the dragon that lands from the Bend Will shout will just simply obey. Once you dismount Durneviir if he is hostile to you, he will return to being hostile. Also seekers, antronachs and daedra do not count as "people" They have their own classifications each. Using Bend Will on a person will only work is if they are one of the races of Nirn or an animal of Nirn or a dragon. Undead, Daedra, Atronachs and Seekers do not fall under any of these three categories.

The flavor text of Bend Will are as follows: "Your Voice bends the very stones to your will. As it gains power, animals, people and even dragons must do your bidding."

The effects of each word are as followed:

"Gol" can be used to purge the All-Maker Stones on Solstheim during the quest "Cleansing the Stones."
"Hah" allows the will of people and animals to be controlled. It makes them temporary allies to the Dragonborn.
"Dov" allows the will of dragons to be controlled. This grants the ability to ride them.

Notice how it doesn't mention atronachs, daedra, undead or seekers.

If the game registers me as a vampire, I am therefore immune to the effects of Bend Will. Because vampires are undead.


Mind you I am playing on XBOX, but reading is important when I listed off my abilities. I said I was a vampire, knowing that Bend Will will not affect me. So it will not target me, any skeletons I summon, any undead I raise or specters I summon, any daedra I summon, any atronachs I summon or any seekers I summon.

[quote="LightCaster":dn8e0xwa][quote="CrystalMusic":dn8e0xwa][quote="LightCaster":dn8e0xwa]


Again. I just showed that I can nullify physical damage and give myself practically infinite health and magicka all while wearing dwarven armor. So idk why you still think you'd beat me. And don't say the wabbajack again. The effect you want from the wabbajack is a 1/33 chance of getting and there is 0 way to increase these chances. You cannot take control of conjured creatures or Odahviing/Durneviir. Only use Dragonrend at best. I have shown you all my resistances so again, you wouldn't beat me.[/quote:dn8e0xwa]

this is proof you dont have the Dragonborn DLC, the bend will shout lets you take control of creatures, dragons and mortals.
i have played skyrim long enough to know the games DLC's better than most.
dont forget the dragonborn himself is a mortal with the soul of a dragon, so i can use bend will on your dragonborn as well.
BTW im talking console not pc so you must also use console to level the playing field. BTW PS4. PC has much more than console so its only fair that you have to use PS4 just like me to keep it fair.
oh and thanks for showing the world that you have no idea what you are talking about. because the bend will show allows its user to control ANY dragon, ANY mortal or ANY creature[/quote:dn8e0xwa]

Undead are immune to the effects of Bend Will. If I am a vampire. I am considered undead. Which is why I benefit from the Necromage perk. Durneviir's AI does not register Bend Will even though he is targetable. This is a bug on all versions of the game. Also it is not a guarantee that the dragon that lands from the Bend Will shout will just simply obey. Once you dismount Durneviir if he is hostile to you, he will return to being hostile. Also seekers, antronachs and daedra do not count as "people" They have their own classifications each. Using Bend Will on a person will only work is if they are one of the races of Nirn or an animal of Nirn or a dragon. Undead, Daedra, Atronachs and Seekers do not fall under any of these three categories.

The flavor text of Bend Will are as follows: "Your Voice bends the very stones to your will. As it gains power, animals, people and even dragons must do your bidding."

The effects of each word are as followed:

"Gol" can be used to purge the All-Maker Stones on Solstheim during the quest "Cleansing the Stones."
"Hah" allows the will of people and animals to be controlled. It makes them temporary allies to the Dragonborn.
"Dov" allows the will of dragons to be controlled. This grants the ability to ride them.

Notice how it doesn't mention atronachs, daedra, undead or seekers.

If the game registers me as a vampire, I am therefore immune to the effects of Bend Will. Because vampires are undead.


Mind you I am playing on XBOX, but reading is important when I listed off my abilities. I said I was a vampire, knowing that Bend Will will not affect me. So it will not target me, any skeletons I summon, any undead I raise or specters I summon, any daedra I summon, any atronachs I summon or any seekers I summon.[/quote:dn8e0xwa]

im done arguing with you just because you know you are wrong. you cant take the L and walk away with your dignity cas ur ego is to big. what a shame.

lmao they gonna enjoy this info they probably didnt knew. I can imagine the title, "How to get 1 million HP on skrim (lgt) 1!1!!".
EDIT: Lamo he editted it!! I case anyone wonders, he """Threaned""" LitCastr with publicly shaming about 1m hp on Facebook, amino nd whatever else.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3j3kbzsg]
again, ur using mods if you have 0 shout cooldown and doing 1000+ damage with a weapon, having MILLIONS of health, limitless stamina and magicka. so i win immediately cas you are cheating using mods against my LEGIT setup. SCREENSHOTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. END OF ARGUMENT![/quote:3j3kbzsg]
This isn't modded. This is doable on xbox 360 skyrim. You were told how to do this, twice.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2ar1pv7t][quote="LightCaster":2ar1pv7t][quote="CrystalMusic":2ar1pv7t]

this is proof you dont have the Dragonborn DLC, the bend will shout lets you take control of creatures, dragons and mortals.
i have played skyrim long enough to know the games DLC's better than most.
dont forget the dragonborn himself is a mortal with the soul of a dragon, so i can use bend will on your dragonborn as well.
BTW im talking console not pc so you must also use console to level the playing field. BTW PS4. PC has much more than console so its only fair that you have to use PS4 just like me to keep it fair.
oh and thanks for showing the world that you have no idea what you are talking about. because the bend will show allows its user to control ANY dragon, ANY mortal or ANY creature[/quote:2ar1pv7t]

Undead are immune to the effects of Bend Will. If I am a vampire. I am considered undead. Which is why I benefit from the Necromage perk. Durneviir's AI does not register Bend Will even though he is targetable. This is a bug on all versions of the game. Also it is not a guarantee that the dragon that lands from the Bend Will shout will just simply obey. Once you dismount Durneviir if he is hostile to you, he will return to being hostile. Also seekers, antronachs and daedra do not count as "people" They have their own classifications each. Using Bend Will on a person will only work is if they are one of the races of Nirn or an animal of Nirn or a dragon. Undead, Daedra, Atronachs and Seekers do not fall under any of these three categories.

The flavor text of Bend Will are as follows: "Your Voice bends the very stones to your will. As it gains power, animals, people and even dragons must do your bidding."

The effects of each word are as followed:

"Gol" can be used to purge the All-Maker Stones on Solstheim during the quest "Cleansing the Stones."
"Hah" allows the will of people and animals to be controlled. It makes them temporary allies to the Dragonborn.
"Dov" allows the will of dragons to be controlled. This grants the ability to ride them.

Notice how it doesn't mention atronachs, daedra, undead or seekers.

If the game registers me as a vampire, I am therefore immune to the effects of Bend Will. Because vampires are undead.


Mind you I am playing on XBOX, but reading is important when I listed off my abilities. I said I was a vampire, knowing that Bend Will will not affect me. So it will not target me, any skeletons I summon, any undead I raise or specters I summon, any daedra I summon, any atronachs I summon or any seekers I summon.[/quote:2ar1pv7t]

im done arguing with you just because you know you are wrong. you cant take the L and walk away with your dignity cas ur ego is to big. what a shame.[/quote:2ar1pv7t]

No. You're quitting because you know I'm right and aren't man enough to admit it. But since you still think I'm a noob then riddle me this:

Who did the Nords fight to claim Skyrim? Answer: The Snow Elves. The nords have owned Skyrim for 300 years even when they were they were called the Atmorans. The last remaining Snow Elves can be seen in the Dawnguard DLC while the rest of the race became the mole-ish monsters we currently see. Ysgramor was the one who lead these Nords to Skyrim to find a new home.

As for the PVP section. I still have the upper hand against you lore wise because Argonain's homeland of Black Marsh is literally impossible to invade and they have even deterred the great Uriel Septim from entering Black Marsh due to it's harsh climates and incurable diseases. Which is why Argonians have a resistance to disease. While Nords are bigger and stronger, they dare not invade Black Marsh. Even the mighty high elves of Summerset Isle have avoided Black Marsh.

I have also demonstrated to you statistically that I have the upper hand but you call me ego-driven when you know for a fact that you're wrong. Which, if we look again:

~130 Conjuration
~120 Two-handed
100 Smithing
100 Alchemy
100 Alteration
100 Enchantment
80 Heavy armor
50% resistant to disease
20% resistant to fire (while Dragon Aspect is active)
20% resistant to frost (While Dragon Aspect is active)
85% resistant to magic
50% resistant to poison
30% resistant to spell effects
100% damage increase with greatswords
30% magic absorption
75% decreased chances to be inflected with stagger.
20% chance of crit damage increase with greatswords
300% armor rating increased (While Dragon Aspect is active)
974.7% physical damage reduction (While Dragon Aspect is active) ((No active potions))
40% shout cooldown decrease (While Dragon Aspect is active.)
8,122.5 armor rating (While Dragon Aspect is active) ((No active potions))
Can transform into a vampire lord: decreasing enemy movement speed, can summon a gargoyle and can become invulnerable
As a vampire lord, Dragon aspect lasts more than 7 minutes.
Immune to Bend Will
Is level 81

Assisting in combat would be:
Odahviing/Durnevhiir
An Atronach thrall + a seeker if I so chose
A Dark brotherhood assassin
Gromlaith Golden-Hilt
Hakon One-Eye
Felldir the Old
Risen Gargoyle

So that 350 damage from your warhammer would actually do -629 damage just from physical resistances alone. So basically I could have worse health stamina and magicka reserves than you, but still outlive you due to the high amount of absorb health and magicka and the resistances would nullify the damage. Hilariously with enchanted armor. Damage resistance caps at 80% And also mind you I'm achieving this with 3 of my 4 armor slots being dwarven armor.

And to show my math AGAIN about how I can achieve 8k armor rating with dwarven armor:
Dragonplate Helm: 22
Dwarven Curiass: 34
Dwarven Gauntlets: 13
Dwarven Boots: 13

Total unenchanted: 189 armor rating. Physical damage reduced: 22.68%

Juggernaut 5/5 Perk: Increases armor rating by 100% from heavy Armor
Well Fitted Perk: Increases Armor rating by 25% if wearing all heavy armor

A level 6 Fortify Heavy Armor enchantment has a magnitude of 25.

Dwarven Smithing increases how much Dwarven armor can be upgraded

Dragon Smithing increases how much Dragon armor can be upgraded

With the proper perks and level 100 Smithing this armor is now AR: 241 with a damage reduction of 28.91%

With level 6 fortify smithing. The AR is now: 1444 with the maxed damage reduction of 80%

Dragon aspect increases armor rating by 125%

So, 1444+100%+25%+125% equals an armor rating of 8,122.5. Which with an uncapped damage reduction would equal 974.7% of physical damage alone. And this is without fortify heavy armor enchantments or potions and not including elemental resistances.

This is without mods and ONLY the dragonborn DLC.

Being a vampire adds onto this because of Dragon Aspect's duration: 5 minutes.

If you have the necromage perk from the level 70 Restoration tree. Dragon Aspect now lasts 50% longer. therefore making Dragon Aspect last 7.5 minutes. Maintaining the buffs of +125% armor rating, +20% fire resistance, +20% frost resistance for that 7.5 minutes.

In short. You won't beat me. Lore says so and the math says so. Take your fucking L. I know my lore and I've shown to you that I am superior to you in builds and I could make an entire long post dedicated to outquizzing you in Elder Scrolls lore.

[quote="CrystalMusic":26814brn][quote="Debt":26814brn][quote="CrystalMusic":26814brn]

unlike you, i dont need to rely on pickpocketing to make my gold, i do quests, loot everything as long as it doesnt say "Steal", i also sell off everything i dont care about keeping like spare weapons and armor that are weaker than my currently equipped weapons and armor. Im all my time i have played skyrim this is how i managed to get to 5 million gold.[/quote:26814brn]
None of this matters. If your character went up against an alch loop character and you're not using alch loop, you lose. End of discussion. You can't beat 0 cooldown shouts, hundreds of thousands of damage per weapon swing, health so high it causes rollover, near limitless stamina and magicka. Pickpocket poisoning you for literal real time days is just 1 thing an alch loop character can do.[/quote:26814brn]

again, ur using mods if you have 0 shout cooldown and doing 1000+ damage with a weapon, having MILLIONS of health, limitless stamina and magicka. so i win immediately cas you are cheating using mods against my LEGIT setup. SCREENSHOTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. END OF ARGUMENT![/quote:26814brn]
No mods are not being used, its game mechanics, I even SHOWED YOU HOW TO DO IT WITHOUT MODS, NOW STOP BEING A STUPID LITTLE BITCH. Also YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE IF YOU GET PICKPOCKETED OR NOT, THE GAME WOULD DECIDE.

[quote="Renji Asuka":17m1keh0][quote="CrystalMusic":17m1keh0][quote="Debt":17m1keh0]
None of this matters. If your character went up against an alch loop character and you're not using alch loop, you lose. End of discussion. You can't beat 0 cooldown shouts, hundreds of thousands of damage per weapon swing, health so high it causes rollover, near limitless stamina and magicka. Pickpocket poisoning you for literal real time days is just 1 thing an alch loop character can do.[/quote:17m1keh0]

again, ur using mods if you have 0 shout cooldown and doing 1000+ damage with a weapon, having MILLIONS of health, limitless stamina and magicka. so i win immediately cas you are cheating using mods against my LEGIT setup. SCREENSHOTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. END OF ARGUMENT![/quote:17m1keh0]
No mods are not being used, its game mechanics, I even SHOWED YOU HOW TO DO IT WITHOUT MODS, NOW STOP BEING A STUPID LITTLE BITCH. Also YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE IF YOU GET PICKPOCKETED OR NOT, THE GAME WOULD DECIDE.[/quote:17m1keh0]

You are correct in this. Forsworn Briarhearts have the highest detection for pickpocketing and sneaking. A player has I believe the most minimal.

[quote="LightCaster":1pbzszoc][quote="Renji Asuka":1pbzszoc][quote="CrystalMusic":1pbzszoc]

again, ur using mods if you have 0 shout cooldown and doing 1000+ damage with a weapon, having MILLIONS of health, limitless stamina and magicka. so i win immediately cas you are cheating using mods against my LEGIT setup. SCREENSHOTS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN. END OF ARGUMENT![/quote:1pbzszoc]
No mods are not being used, its game mechanics, I even SHOWED YOU HOW TO DO IT WITHOUT MODS, NOW STOP BEING A STUPID LITTLE BITCH. Also YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE IF YOU GET PICKPOCKETED OR NOT, THE GAME WOULD DECIDE.[/quote:1pbzszoc]

You are correct in this. Forsworn Briarhearts have the highest detection for pickpocketing and sneaking. A player has I believe the most minimal.[/quote:1pbzszoc]
Crystal Music is that guy at a Role Playing set up that would act like a fucking god to try to get out of anything and everything that would negatively affect him regardless of the die roll. Its really pathetic, the fact he doesn't know about the Alchemy Resto loop despite being told how to do it in detail. Then act like its a fucking mod when it can be done in the base game...

[quote="Renji Asuka":qk1uvrvp]
Crystal Music is that guy at a Role Playing set up that would act like a fucking god to try to get out of anything and everything that would negatively affect him regardless of the die roll. Its really pathetic, the fact he doesn't know about the Alchemy Resto loop despite being told how to do it in detail. Then act like its a fucking mod when it can be done in the base game...[/quote:qk1uvrvp]
The best part is that the most popular mod for skyrim actually closes the loop. It's something that's almost only achievable on unmodded setups due to how popular and dependent other mods are on the unofficial patch mod

ok what about ESO i bet my dark elf will have a field day crushing yo pathetic characters on PS4! mind you, you cant cheat, mod, or exploit on ESO or they will find out cas its all monitored.

I don't play ESO. Being an mmo means that only time investment matters. So yes you'd probably win because I have better things to play.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1yp31ktw]ok what about ESO i bet my dark elf will have a field day crushing yo pathetic characters on PS4! mind you, you cant cheat, mod, or exploit on ESO or they will find out cas its all monitored.[/quote:1yp31ktw]
Doesn't matter, against a Alchemy Resto loop character, if you're not doing it, YOU LOSE PERIOD. Doesn't matter on what game it is.

[quote="Renji Asuka":qnpujxam][quote="CrystalMusic":qnpujxam]ok what about ESO i bet my dark elf will have a field day crushing yo pathetic characters on PS4! mind you, you cant cheat, mod, or exploit on ESO or they will find out cas its all monitored.[/quote:qnpujxam]
Doesn't matter, against a Alchemy Resto loop character, if you're not doing it, YOU LOSE PERIOD. Doesn't matter on what game it is.[/quote:qnpujxam]

dude in ESO alchemy doenst do anything for you, you are limited to ONE equipped potion in a duel on ESO and theres a cooldown before ur allowed to use another. so your alchemy is pointless, and restoration isnt good for PVP in ESO all you can do is heal yourself and i have an argonan templar master healer so i know the limits of healing in ESO its only good if you intend to be a healer in trials. my Darkelf is able to deal over 10K damage in a single hit in ESO and the most health i have seen in ESO is 60k so in 6 hits ur a goner, my dark elf also has several buffing abilities to make me fore resistant to damage from physical and magic. my dark elf can solo trials, world bosses, dolmens, and even stand his own in trials. he makes missions look like childsplay.

so goodluck using your alchemy in ESO its no where near the same as Skyrim. ESO is a completely different game than skyrim.

also it DOES matter what game it is, every game has different mechanics, and in ESO an alchemist is only good for trading with, not battling in PVP. this is clear proof you have no idea what is and isnt good in Elder Scrolls Online. tell me what good is your alchemist if you have to wait 30 seconds between using potions due to the game mechanics in ESO while my dark elf is hitting you with Flame Lash dealing over 10k per hit? that 30 second cooldown between potions is going to lead to your character lossing. i can get over 30k magika and my skills only cost me about 2 - 3 k magicka per use so im able to constantly hit your character with flamelash up to 10 times in a row, thats 100K damage by the time i need to let my magicka regen.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2k11ouqn][quote="Renji Asuka":2k11ouqn][quote="CrystalMusic":2k11ouqn]ok what about ESO i bet my dark elf will have a field day crushing yo pathetic characters on PS4! mind you, you cant cheat, mod, or exploit on ESO or they will find out cas its all monitored.[/quote:2k11ouqn]
Doesn't matter, against a Alchemy Resto loop character, if you're not doing it, YOU LOSE PERIOD. Doesn't matter on what game it is.[/quote:2k11ouqn]

dude in ESO alchemy doenst do anything for you, you are limited to ONE equipped potion in a duel on ESO and theres a cooldown before ur allowed to use another. so your alchemy is pointless, and restoration isnt good for PVP in ESO all you can do is heal yourself and i have an argonan templar master healer so i know the limits of healing in ESO its only good if you intend to be a healer in trials. my Darkelf is able to deal over 10K damage in a single hit in ESO and the most health i have seen in ESO is 60k so in 6 hits ur a goner, my dark elf also has several buffing abilities to make me fore resistant to damage from physical and magic. my dark elf can solo trials, world bosses, dolmens, and even stand his own in trials. he makes missions look like childsplay.

so goodluck using your alchemy in ESO its no where near the same as Skyrim. ESO is a completely different game than skyrim.

also it DOES matter what game it is, every game has different mechanics, and in ESO an alchemist is only good for trading with, not battling in PVP. this is clear proof you have no idea what is and isnt good in Elder Scrolls Online. tell me what good is your alchemist if you have to wait 30 seconds between using potions due to the game mechanics in ESO while my dark elf is hitting you with Flame Lash dealing over 10k per hit? that 30 second cooldown between potions is going to lead to your character lossing. i can get over 30k magika and my skills only cost me about 2 - 3 k magicka per use so im able to constantly hit your character with flamelash up to 10 times in a row, thats 100K damage by the time i need to let my magicka regen.[/quote:2k11ouqn]

Oh so now skyrim is irrelevant because you'd lose there lol. Also yes. you can technically mod ESO if there's an option for it. Which there is.

[quote="CrystalMusic":ssacdfef][quote="Renji Asuka":ssacdfef][quote="CrystalMusic":ssacdfef]ok what about ESO i bet my dark elf will have a field day crushing yo pathetic characters on PS4! mind you, you cant cheat, mod, or exploit on ESO or they will find out cas its all monitored.[/quote:ssacdfef]
Doesn't matter, against a Alchemy Resto loop character, if you're not doing it, YOU LOSE PERIOD. Doesn't matter on what game it is.[/quote:ssacdfef]

dude in ESO alchemy doenst do anything for you, you are limited to ONE equipped potion in a duel on ESO and theres a cooldown before ur allowed to use another. so your alchemy is pointless, and restoration isnt good for PVP in ESO all you can do is heal yourself and i have an argonan templar master healer so i know the limits of healing in ESO its only good if you intend to be a healer in trials. my Darkelf is able to deal over 10K damage in a single hit in ESO and the most health i have seen in ESO is 60k so in 6 hits ur a goner, my dark elf also has several buffing abilities to make me fore resistant to damage from physical and magic. my dark elf can solo trials, world bosses, dolmens, and even stand his own in trials. he makes missions look like childsplay.

so goodluck using your alchemy in ESO its no where near the same as Skyrim. ESO is a completely different game than skyrim.

also it DOES matter what game it is, every game has different mechanics, and in ESO an alchemist is only good for trading with, not battling in PVP. this is clear proof you have no idea what is and isnt good in Elder Scrolls Online. tell me what good is your alchemist if you have to wait 30 seconds between using potions due to the game mechanics in ESO while my dark elf is hitting you with Flame Lash dealing over 10k per hit? that 30 second cooldown between potions is going to lead to your character lossing. i can get over 30k magika and my skills only cost me about 2 - 3 k magicka per use so im able to constantly hit your character with flamelash up to 10 times in a row, thats 100K damage by the time i need to let my magicka regen.[/quote:ssacdfef]
Doesn't matter what platform you're on, you will lose to alchemy resto if you're not doing said loop. End of story.

now if you really want a fair fight: Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - Exotic Class - Race 1 V 1.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1g777kei]now if you really want a fair fight: Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - Exotic Class. theres only 3 cars i use in that class[/quote:1g777kei]

Again. Skyrim and now ESO is now invalid.

[quote="LightCaster":325j2s6q][quote="CrystalMusic":325j2s6q]now if you really want a fair fight: Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - Exotic Class. theres only 3 cars i use in that class[/quote:325j2s6q]

Again. Skyrim and now ESO is now invalid.[/quote:325j2s6q]

that cas u think game mechanics are irrielevent with your "Alchemy is GOD" additude! without even knowing the differences between skyrim mechanics and ESO's mechanics. soi decided to pick a game where it all comes down to the car you pick and how well you drive it. pure skill. nothing more.

[quote="CrystalMusic":hk5al7jw][quote="LightCaster":hk5al7jw][quote="CrystalMusic":hk5al7jw]now if you really want a fair fight: Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - Exotic Class. theres only 3 cars i use in that class[/quote:hk5al7jw]

Again. Skyrim and now ESO is now invalid.[/quote:hk5al7jw]

that cas u think game mechanics are irrielevent with your "Alchemy is GOD" additude! without even knowing the differences between skyrim mechanics and ESO's mechanics.[/quote:hk5al7jw]
No, you swapped to ESO KNOWING DAMN WELL YOU COULDN'T WIN IN SKYRIM YOU NOOB. The fact you changed games TWICE shows how pathetic you are in needing to feel you can beat everyone here.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2a5qmtya][quote="LightCaster":2a5qmtya][quote="CrystalMusic":2a5qmtya]now if you really want a fair fight: Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered - Exotic Class. theres only 3 cars i use in that class[/quote:2a5qmtya]

Again. Skyrim and now ESO is now invalid.[/quote:2a5qmtya]

that cas u think game mechanics are irrielevent with your "Alchemy is GOD" additude! without even knowing the differences between skyrim and ESO.[/quote:2a5qmtya]

I wasn't saying alchemy is god, moron. I was saying that my build trumps yours. Renji and Debt were the ones saying Alchemy is amazing. Which it is. You tried to argue that Bend Will targets anything I throw at you. I explained to you how Bend Will works and how it's useless agaisnt the things I WOULD summon. You called me a noob. I showed you my lore knowledge AND my build once more. then you decided to change the game from Skyrim to ESO.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3bd1qncf][quote="CrystalMusic":3bd1qncf][quote="LightCaster":3bd1qncf]

Again. Skyrim and now ESO is now invalid.[/quote:3bd1qncf]

that cas u think game mechanics are irrielevent with your "Alchemy is GOD" additude! without even knowing the differences between skyrim mechanics and ESO's mechanics.[/quote:3bd1qncf]
No, you swapped to ESO KNOWING DAMN WELL YOU COULDN'T WIN IN SKYRIM YOU NOOB. The fact you changed games TWICE shows how pathetic you are in needing to feel you can beat everyone here.[/quote:3bd1qncf]

your free to believe that if you want but thats far from the truth, just like that BS loadout

at any rate in NFS HP Remastered I will win hands down. but to prove this youll actually have to vs me in the game, luckily they allow cross platform. so all you need to do is send a ea friend request if you play on pc or XB. if you dont then theres no way we can race against eachother

I'm not giving EA a dime

[quote="CrystalMusic":2fng9lbd][quote="Renji Asuka":2fng9lbd][quote="CrystalMusic":2fng9lbd]

that cas u think game mechanics are irrielevent with your "Alchemy is GOD" additude! without even knowing the differences between skyrim mechanics and ESO's mechanics.[/quote:2fng9lbd]
No, you swapped to ESO KNOWING DAMN WELL YOU COULDN'T WIN IN SKYRIM YOU NOOB. The fact you changed games TWICE shows how pathetic you are in needing to feel you can beat everyone here.[/quote:2fng9lbd]

your free to believe that if you want but thats far from the truth, just like that BS loadout[/quote:2fng9lbd]
What I stated was a fact. Let me tell you exactly what happened in this thread.

I picked Skyrim on Legendary Difficulty, then proceeded to use Alchemy to build my character and become and unstoppable force. You claimed that because I couldn't die it wouldn't count. Then you claimed to be a Skyrim Veteran, and I called you out on it knowing damn well you're a compulsive liar. You then make a point saying that because Bethesda doesn't fix exploits, you're able to get skills to 100 before completing Bleak Falls Barrow. I called you out on that so you could fix your statement to properly reflect what you were saying. You denied instead of fixing said statement.

You THEN wanted to have a what really is a dick measuring contest. I declined knowing how stupid you'd look afterwards. You make some wild claims and I again called you out on your BS, especially when you think the armor cap is at 800 or whatever. You then showed how terribly done your enchants were, you haven't even FACED The Ebony Warrior.

You then proceed to claim that mods were being used to achieve numbers that were too high for you. I told you specifically HOW TO DO IT, and you still thought it was due to mods, but you were too stupid and prideful to admit you were wrong or recognize you had no idea what you were talking about.

You THEN proceeded to list off how skills would work, WHILE BEING WRONG. Then when you were told for the millionth time (Obvious exaggeration) you proceeded to swap to ESO characters making the claim you'd win there. Which fun fact, your character still dies to an alchemy resto loop character due to the millions of health, regen, and damage a alchemy resto loop character can do. You THEN swap over to a completely different Genre of games just to feel superior at a game probably NONE OF US ACTUALLY PLAYS. (could be wrong here in that none of us plays that game of Need For Speed).

And you think my assessment is far from the truth? At this point you're lying and you can't help it.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3gw6lz0p]
And you think my assessment is far from the truth? At this point you're lying and you can't help it.[/quote:3gw6lz0p]
The man says it himself, he can't handle losing

[quote="Debt":sgnaawh7][quote="Renji Asuka":sgnaawh7]
And you think my assessment is far from the truth? At this point you're lying and you can't help it.[/quote:sgnaawh7]
The man says it himself, he can't handle losing
[/quote:sgnaawh7]

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-8095071

Banjo Bear: Jesus, is losing a duel such a bad thing? Just have some sportsmanship.
Februarys: 100% fair
Februarys: hehas autisim
CrystalMusic: look you have no idea how much i HATE losing

sigh, my past doenst define my future, and i havnt used that card in a long time. i only bring that card out as a last resort

Except you're behaving the same way as you did back then. You weren't able to gracefully take the L on something with no consequences. Because you can't handle losing. Last year might as well be yesterday for you.

[quote="CrystalMusic":189lzf1h]sigh, my past doenst define my future, and i havnt used that card in a long time. i only bring that card out as a last resort[/quote:189lzf1h]
Past doesn't define the future, but the past can be used to predict the future

[quote="CrystalMusic":nfci2ghk]sigh, my past doenst define my future, and i havnt used that card in a long time. i only bring that card out as a last resort[/quote:nfci2ghk]

So then stop saying "Oh. I'll fix my behavior. I'll fix my behavior." and then literally do anything but that.

[quote="LightCaster":31up3r3t][quote="CrystalMusic":31up3r3t]sigh, my past doenst define my future, and i havnt used that card in a long time. i only bring that card out as a last resort[/quote:31up3r3t]

So then stop saying "Oh. I'll fix my behavior. I'll fix my behavior." and then literally do anything but that.[/quote:31up3r3t]

my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them

[quote="CrystalMusic":2iypr283][quote="LightCaster":2iypr283][quote="CrystalMusic":2iypr283]sigh, my past doenst define my future, and i havnt used that card in a long time. i only bring that card out as a last resort[/quote:2iypr283]

So then stop saying "Oh. I'll fix my behavior. I'll fix my behavior." and then literally do anything but that.[/quote:2iypr283]

my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them[/quote:2iypr283]

So is it too hard to either not have one-sided rules or have your duel note say "Read profile before joining"?

OMFG! thats all you ever say "your rules are one sided" is that all u can say? you need more arsenal in your comebacks cas its getting old

[quote="CrystalMusic":32ftxav1]sigh, my past doenst define my future, and i havnt used that card in a long time. i only bring that card out as a last resort[/quote:32ftxav1]
We are not talking about that card, you sore loser. We are talking about how you still hate losing and will do just about everything to win.

[quote="LightCaster":9c4vut35][quote="CrystalMusic":9c4vut35][quote="LightCaster":9c4vut35]

So then stop saying "Oh. I'll fix my behavior. I'll fix my behavior." and then literally do anything but that.[/quote:9c4vut35]

my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them[/quote:9c4vut35]

So is it too hard to either not have one-sided rules or have your duel note say "Read profile before joining"?[/quote:9c4vut35]

I have named many times where your rules were one sided and you argued against it. You lied about who you are as a person. You are a despicable and egotistical person who cannot take responsibility for who you are as a person.

How's that for a comback?

[quote="CrystalMusic":2dy7qoy2]
my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them[/quote:2dy7qoy2]
Your behavior is absolutely the problem. It's to the point where a mod believes you should be banned. Your rules don't apply to other people. There's no other way to put it.

[quote="Debt":f8y88lyf][quote="CrystalMusic":f8y88lyf]
my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them[/quote:f8y88lyf]
Your behavior is absolutely the problem. It's to the point where a mod believes you should be banned. Your rules don't apply to other people. There's no other way to put it.
[/quote:f8y88lyf]

so genex wrecker just admidted to violating admin rules. you cant just ban someone cas you dont like them or who they are as a duelist.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2eqx9tiz][quote="Debt":2eqx9tiz][quote="CrystalMusic":2eqx9tiz]
my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them[/quote:2eqx9tiz]
Your behavior is absolutely the problem. It's to the point where a mod believes you should be banned. Your rules don't apply to other people. There's no other way to put it.
[/quote:2eqx9tiz]

so genex wrecker just admidted to violating admin rules. you cant just ban someone cas you dont like them or who they are as a duelist.[/quote:2eqx9tiz]
Why did you just assume it was because Genexwrecker doesn't like you or who you are as a duelist?

im done replying to you insignificant low lifes. go do something better with your free time instead of bothering me

[quote="CrystalMusic":23t1tlag]
so genex wrecker just admidted to violating admin rules. you cant just ban someone cas you dont like them or who they are as a duelist.[/quote:23t1tlag]

No, it's because you have a disgustingly high report count.

[quote="CrystalMusic":17za7ulb][quote="Debt":17za7ulb][quote="CrystalMusic":17za7ulb]
my behavior isnt the problem on here. its ppl who think my rules when they join my duels dont apply to them[/quote:17za7ulb]
Your behavior is absolutely the problem. It's to the point where a mod believes you should be banned. Your rules don't apply to other people. There's no other way to put it.
[/quote:17za7ulb]

so genex wrecker just admidted to violating admin rules. you cant just ban someone cas you dont like them or who they are as a duelist.[/quote:17za7ulb]

Yes, clearly he's just out to get you. Not because:

- You're egotistical
- You're a pathological liar
- You blame mental illnesses you clearly don't have for your behavior
- Most posts you make are either bullying or witch-hunts
- Any decent posts you make are just excuses to gatekeep
- You pretended to be a lawyer
- You called someone retarded in a duel
- You can't hold a debate and instead only opt to make fun of the opposing party or lie.
- You don't know how to play Yugioh right considering you force people to follow one-sided and arbitrary rules

Nah. Clearly it's none of those things >_>

[quote="Debt":1kggoke6][quote="CrystalMusic":1kggoke6]
so genex wrecker just admidted to violating admin rules. you cant just ban someone cas you dont like them or who they are as a duelist.[/quote:1kggoke6]

No, it's because you have a disgustingly high report count.[/quote:1kggoke6]

the reports are all false anyways cas they dont like me or cas they dont like my style. im allowed to paly any way i want on here in unrated. the judges have said if you dont like me or my rules: GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!

once u join me u are obligated to follow the rules i set

now go find something else to do with your free time!

[quote="CrystalMusic":1bpiwb9d]
the reports are all false anyways cas they dont like me or cas they dont like my style. im allowed to paly any way i want on here in unrated. the judges have said if you dont like me or my rules: GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!

once u join me u are obligated to follow the rules i set[/quote:1bpiwb9d]
It can't possibly because you call people faggot all the time because you get upset. And no, no one is obligated to following the rules you set. You've been told that by staff numerous times

[quote="CrystalMusic":2z5x66i8][quote="Debt":2z5x66i8][quote="CrystalMusic":2z5x66i8]
so genex wrecker just admidted to violating admin rules. you cant just ban someone cas you dont like them or who they are as a duelist.[/quote:2z5x66i8]

No, it's because you have a disgustingly high report count.[/quote:2z5x66i8]

the reports are all false anyways cas they dont like me or cas they dont like my style. im allowed to paly any way i want on here in unrated. the judges have said if you dont like me or my rules: GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!

once u join me u are obligated to follow the rules i set[/quote:2z5x66i8]

I'll say it once more for the people in the back: DUEL NOTES AREN'T CONTRACTS

If you don't like the game then play a different game.

[quote="Debt":1tnmy4da][quote="CrystalMusic":1tnmy4da]
the reports are all false anyways cas they dont like me or cas they dont like my style. im allowed to paly any way i want on here in unrated. the judges have said if you dont like me or my rules: GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!

once u join me u are obligated to follow the rules i set[/quote:1tnmy4da]
It can't possibly because you call people faggot all the time because you get upset. And no, no one is obligated to following the rules you set. You've been told that by staff numerous times[/quote:1tnmy4da]

THE STAFF HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES IF YOU DO NOT LIKE MY RULES YOU ARE FREE TO GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!!

[quote="CrystalMusic":3961d9jv]AND ILL SAY THIS ONCE MORE: DONT LIKE MY RULES? GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:3961d9jv]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES!

[quote="Debt":6yt06xy6]If you don't like the game then play a different game.[/quote:6yt06xy6]

I DONT LIKE WHAT YUGIOH HAS BECOME THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT LIKEING A GAME IN GENERAL, AND NOT LIKING IT DUE TO WHAT ITS BECOME

[quote="CrystalMusic":urc2pzx1]

THE STAFF HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES IF YOU DO NOT LIKE MY RULES YOU ARE FREE TO GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:urc2pzx1]
Irrelevant. Your rules doesn't give you license to treat people poorly because they broke an arbitrary rule. A grey admin came in and told you that. In an unrated environment. That's how bad things are escalating around you. That shit's doesn't happen in a regular scenario.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3uucw7hs][quote="Debt":3uucw7hs]If you don't like the game then play a different game.[/quote:3uucw7hs]

I DONT LIKE WHAT YUGIOH HAS BECOME THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT LIKEING A GAME IN GENERAL, AND NOT LIKING IT DUE TO WHAT ITS BECOME[/quote:3uucw7hs]

Then stop playing the fucking game and stop forcing people to play it your way because your way is literally to have your opponent sit there and let you win and berate them.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2dgpb6h0]
I DONT LIKE WHAT YUGIOH HAS BECOME THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT LIKEING A GAME IN GENERAL, AND NOT LIKING IT DUE TO WHAT ITS BECOME[/quote:2dgpb6h0]
You cry about cards that have been in the game day 1.

[quote="CrystalMusic":qzw04uzc]once u join me u are obligated to follow the rules i set[/quote:qzw04uzc]
Or else...? What's enforcing those rules?

[quote="CrystalMusic":2z3ge8td]THE STAFF HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES IF YOU DO NOT LIKE MY RULES YOU ARE FREE TO GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:2z3ge8td]
That doesn't mean we have to like or agree with them, and as long as you keep this basically trolling unrated shit going, we will be here to scold you. And if that bothers you then you are free to stop posting.

[quote="LightCaster":3ihgtmwq][quote="CrystalMusic":3ihgtmwq]AND ILL SAY THIS ONCE MORE: DONT LIKE MY RULES? GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:3ihgtmwq]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES![/quote:3ihgtmwq]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"

[quote="CrystalMusic":3ld7tez1][quote="LightCaster":3ld7tez1][quote="CrystalMusic":3ld7tez1]AND ILL SAY THIS ONCE MORE: DONT LIKE MY RULES? GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:3ld7tez1]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES![/quote:3ld7tez1]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:3ld7tez1]
And the ones on your profile?

[quote="CrystalMusic":3r2b41p1][quote="LightCaster":3r2b41p1][quote="CrystalMusic":3r2b41p1]AND ILL SAY THIS ONCE MORE: DONT LIKE MY RULES? GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:3r2b41p1]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES![/quote:3r2b41p1]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:3r2b41p1]

Those are duel notes. Let's take a look at the RULES ON YOUR PROFILE:

-no new support for an old archetype (except if its custom support) like Twinburst for blue-eyes. Example: Blue-eyes white dragon is a 1st gen card, thus any cards that support Blue-eyes that are from GX, 5ds, Zexal, arc-v and vrains are NOT allowed!

- you must fusion summon using the following fusion spell cards: Polymerization, The Eye of Timaeus, The Fang of Critias, The Claw of Hermos (Effects that allow it to be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand or field are allowed, however no "Contact Fusion" AKA no Neo Spacian Fusions)

- no rituals released after december 1, 2003 (north american release)

- No level 4 or lower monsters with more than 1900 ATK or 2200 DEF
- (If duel note says: Original Custom Cards) All cards must be your own unique idea. This means is cannot be a ripoff of anything konami made. This also includes: it cannot be based off of a tv show, movie, like pokemon, ect. The image can still be based off a tv show or movie, but not the name or effect of the card.
- Both players must follow the latest ban list
- Manga Cards are NOT allowed!

- What isnt a custom card in my book:
- Any custom card that mimics the same name and has a very similar effect as a TCG card. Example: a custom card that contains the words: "Greed" in its name along with allowing you to draw 2 (or more) cards. This would make it a custom remake of "Pot of Greed". (Normally this rule will only apply the current TCG/OCG ban list) However i do make exceptions for some cards. I make exceptions for cards that work in a similar fashion as TCG Alt Victories such as "Final Countdown"
- When i say "Original" i mean the following: no copies or ripoffs of any TCG/OCG card (aka no custom remakes of things like "Monster Reborn" or "Pot of Greed" ETC.

[quote="CrystalMusic":wlc6ezvh]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:wlc6ezvh]
Your rules are one sided because you add and remove rules freely as a duel progresses, demand that cards change how they function when they counter you (fissure targeting when it doesn't) and break your rules all the time and have a convenient excuse as to why you and you alone are allowed to break them.

[quote="greg503":mp34sye1][quote="CrystalMusic":mp34sye1][quote="LightCaster":mp34sye1]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES![/quote:mp34sye1]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:mp34sye1]
And the ones on your profile?[/quote:mp34sye1]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh

[quote="CrystalMusic":3pz3joy2][quote="Debt":3pz3joy2]If you don't like the game then play a different game.[/quote:3pz3joy2]

I DONT LIKE WHAT YUGIOH HAS BECOME THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOT LIKEING A GAME IN GENERAL, AND NOT LIKING IT DUE TO WHAT ITS BECOME[/quote:3pz3joy2]
It was never the way you envision it, you delusional prick! Smashing Ground, Goblin Attack Force, Man-Eater Bug, & etc are all in gen 1!

[quote="CrystalMusic":1t77065e][quote="greg503":1t77065e][quote="CrystalMusic":1t77065e]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:1t77065e]
And the ones on your profile?[/quote:1t77065e]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:1t77065e]
But what if your cards don't use ATK power?

[quote="CrystalMusic":14kkknan][quote="greg503":14kkknan][quote="CrystalMusic":14kkknan]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:14kkknan]
And the ones on your profile?[/quote:14kkknan]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:14kkknan]

So then how do these not say you suck:

- You think the banished zone is a real part of the board.
- You think the graveyard isn't part of the field
- You demanded Fissure to work differently

[quote="greg503":2ml100fk][quote="CrystalMusic":2ml100fk][quote="greg503":2ml100fk]
And the ones on your profile?[/quote:2ml100fk]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:2ml100fk]
But what if your cards don't use ATK power?[/quote:2ml100fk]

oh well... not my problem that u cant amass a high atk to get past a high DEF

[quote="CrystalMusic":1nooh7ee][quote="greg503":1nooh7ee][quote="CrystalMusic":1nooh7ee]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:1nooh7ee]
But what if your cards don't use ATK power?[/quote:1nooh7ee]

oh well... not my problem that u cant amass a high atk to get past a high DEF[/quote:1nooh7ee]
Well, then, it's not everyone else's problem that your deck can't handle a little removal by effect.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1zu6rj5f][quote="greg503":1zu6rj5f][quote="CrystalMusic":1zu6rj5f]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:1zu6rj5f]
But what if your cards don't use ATK power?[/quote:1zu6rj5f]

oh well... not my problem that u cant amass a high atk to get past a high DEF[/quote:1zu6rj5f]
Says the Marshmallon main

[quote="LightCaster":1fea7gq1][quote="CrystalMusic":1fea7gq1][quote="greg503":1fea7gq1]
And the ones on your profile?[/quote:1fea7gq1]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:1fea7gq1]

So then how do these not say you suck:

- You think the banished zone is a real part of the board.
- You think the graveyard isn't part of the field
- You demanded Fissure to work differently[/quote:1fea7gq1]

the GY is part of the field. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Field - The field is divided into two halves, one for each player, with each half having 5 Main Monster Zones, 5 Spell & Trap Zones (including 2 Pendulum Zones), a Field Zone, a Deck Zone, an Extra Deck Zone, and a Graveyard. In the middle of the field, there are 2 Extra Monster Zones, which do not belong to either player while unoccupied.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2keswwlr]

oh well... not my problem that u cant amass a high atk to get past a high DEF[/quote:2keswwlr]
Stats stopped having meaning in yugioh at the start of 2004. Mechanicalchaser literally broke the game by just being 50 over la jinn. That model was unsustainable

[quote="CrystalMusic":vrcb9hqj]

the GY is part of the field. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Field - The field is divided into two halves, one for each player, with each half having 5 Main Monster Zones, 5 Spell & Trap Zones (including 2 Pendulum Zones), a Field Zone, a Deck Zone, an Extra Deck Zone, and a Graveyard. In the middle of the field, there are 2 Extra Monster Zones, which do not belong to either player while unoccupied.[/quote:vrcb9hqj]
Your definition includes deck as being apart of the field so I guess Raigeki kills all the monsters in your deck as well

[quote="CrystalMusic":365ci0cw][quote="LightCaster":365ci0cw][quote="CrystalMusic":365ci0cw]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:365ci0cw]

So then how do these not say you suck:

- You think the banished zone is a real part of the board.
- You think the graveyard isn't part of the field
- You demanded Fissure to work differently[/quote:365ci0cw]

the GY is part of the field. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Field - The field is divided into two halves, one for each player, with each half having 5 Main Monster Zones, 5 Spell & Trap Zones (including 2 Pendulum Zones), a Field Zone, a Deck Zone, an Extra Deck Zone, and a Graveyard. In the middle of the field, there are 2 Extra Monster Zones, which do not belong to either player while unoccupied.[/quote:365ci0cw]
Also in the link you provided:

The "field" referenced by card text is the combination of each player's Monster Zones, Spell & Trap Zones, Pendulum Zones and Field Zones. Thus, the field is shared and each player controls only one side of it.

Therefore, when a card says "field" in its effect, it doesn't meant the physical board and every zone located there, but each player's Monster Zones, Spell & Trap Zones, Pendulum Zones and Field Zones

[quote="Debt":wb1b3tys][quote="CrystalMusic":wb1b3tys]

the GY is part of the field. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Field - The field is divided into two halves, one for each player, with each half having 5 Main Monster Zones, 5 Spell & Trap Zones (including 2 Pendulum Zones), a Field Zone, a Deck Zone, an Extra Deck Zone, and a Graveyard. In the middle of the field, there are 2 Extra Monster Zones, which do not belong to either player while unoccupied.[/quote:wb1b3tys]
Your definition includes deck as being apart of the field so I guess Raigeki kills all the monsters in your deck as well[/quote:wb1b3tys]
And Extra Deck

If you can't beat Swarm of Locusts, then your deck is worse then the Exodd SD

[quote="CrystalMusic":2sm19oz8][quote="LightCaster":2sm19oz8][quote="CrystalMusic":2sm19oz8]

seems theres a difference of opinion at what makes one suck at yugioh. i consider using effects on cards when you clearly have enough atk power to beat them makes one suck at yugioh[/quote:2sm19oz8]

So then how do these not say you suck:

- You think the banished zone is a real part of the board.
- You think the graveyard isn't part of the field
- You demanded Fissure to work differently[/quote:2sm19oz8]

the GY is part of the field. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Field - The field is divided into two halves, one for each player, with each half having 5 Main Monster Zones, 5 Spell & Trap Zones (including 2 Pendulum Zones), a Field Zone, a Deck Zone, an Extra Deck Zone, and a Graveyard. In the middle of the field, there are 2 Extra Monster Zones, which do not belong to either player while unoccupied.[/quote:2sm19oz8]

That's not what you've said before.

[quote="greg503":1izlkpy2]
And Extra Deck[/quote:1izlkpy2]
Not a surprise that crystal thinks raigeki is broken and needs to be rebanned. It deletes all monsters in deck and extra. So OP

[quote="CrystalMusic":o9pxzzo9]
the GY is part of the field. https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Field - The field is divided into two halves, one for each player, with each half having 5 Main Monster Zones, 5 Spell & Trap Zones (including 2 Pendulum Zones), a Field Zone, a Deck Zone, an Extra Deck Zone, and a Graveyard. In the middle of the field, there are 2 Extra Monster Zones, which do not belong to either player while unoccupied.[/quote:o9pxzzo9]
Do you think we'd forgot what had happened. This is not what we are talking about!
Let look at an older card "D- Time". "When a face-up "Elemental HERO" monster you control leaves the field: Add 1 "Destiny HERO" monster from your Deck to your hand whose Level is less than or equal to that "Elemental HERO" monster's original Level."
In another word, the trigger is "if a face-up E-Hero monster you control moved from your Monster Zone somewhere else". Nothing to do with the Game Mat as a whole! So no trigger if an E-Hero move around in other Zones (like GY).

[quote="CrystalMusic":2tl77duk][quote="LightCaster":2tl77duk][quote="CrystalMusic":2tl77duk]AND ILL SAY THIS ONCE MORE: DONT LIKE MY RULES? GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DUEL!!![/quote:2tl77duk]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES![/quote:2tl77duk]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:2tl77duk]

This wasn't you?

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=25567575

Following rules violated:

No broken cards: Knight of the Cosmos, Knight of God's Right Hand, Muster the Horsemen
No cards copying actual card effects: Knight of God's Right Hand.

You didn't even copy Horus Level 8's effect right. Which is: Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6", and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During either player's turn, when a Spell Card is activated: You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect. Notice how you removed the summoning restriction that makes Horus balanced.

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=25568049

Here's you being a hypocrite. You claim a card is busted when the card Infinite Impermanence exists. But let's look at the hand?

Nyana the Huntress: Free destruction of three card types. Busted

Elven Armor of Endurance: An equip card that gives effect immunity: Busted

Thylslenora, City of Elves: Immediate destruction immunity. Busted

[quote="LightCaster":2rot53mi][quote="CrystalMusic":2rot53mi][quote="LightCaster":2rot53mi]

YOUR RULES ARE ONE-SIDED AND ARE ONLY DESIGNED BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME! YOU WERE TOLD A THOUSAND AND ONE TIMES BY ADMINS THAT NO ONE IS FORCED TO OBEY YOUR BULLSHIT RULES! IT'S BEEN SHOWN TO YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU DON'T EVEN FOLLOW YOUR OWN RULES![/quote:2rot53mi]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:2rot53mi]

This wasn't you?

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=25567575

Following rules violated:

No broken cards: Knight of the Cosmos, Knight of God's Right Hand, Muster the Horsemen
No cards copying actual card effects: Knight of God's Right Hand.

You didn't even copy Horus Level 8's effect right. Which is: Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6", and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During either player's turn, when a Spell Card is activated: You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect. Notice how you removed the summoning restriction that makes Horus balanced.[/quote:2rot53mi]

1: you dont get to decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel as im the host.
2: its not the same as horus its got a LP effect and is therefore not an exact copy

also you litterally just COUNTERED your own argument by mentioning #2

[quote="CrystalMusic":2u4vgjh2][quote="LightCaster":2u4vgjh2][quote="CrystalMusic":2u4vgjh2]

again, you need more arsenal thats all you say:
"your rules are one sided"

Explain how the hell these are one sided:
- "Format 9/1/07, Cards: 2002 to 2007"
- "Self-made Custom Cards Only. No Pends"[/quote:2u4vgjh2]

This wasn't you?

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=25567575

Following rules violated:

No broken cards: Knight of the Cosmos, Knight of God's Right Hand, Muster the Horsemen
No cards copying actual card effects: Knight of God's Right Hand.

You didn't even copy Horus Level 8's effect right. Which is: Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6", and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During either player's turn, when a Spell Card is activated: You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect. Notice how you removed the summoning restriction that makes Horus balanced.[/quote:2u4vgjh2]

1: you dont get to decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel as im the host.
2: its not the same as horus its got a LP effect and is therefore not an exact copy[/quote:2u4vgjh2]

It's literally the same fucking card, dude. You just removed the summoning restriction.

[quote="LightCaster":10j419ao][quote="CrystalMusic":10j419ao][quote="LightCaster":10j419ao]

This wasn't you?

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=25567575

Following rules violated:

No broken cards: Knight of the Cosmos, Knight of God's Right Hand, Muster the Horsemen
No cards copying actual card effects: Knight of God's Right Hand.

You didn't even copy Horus Level 8's effect right. Which is: Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6", and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During either player's turn, when a Spell Card is activated: You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. You must control this face-up card to activate and to resolve this effect. Notice how you removed the summoning restriction that makes Horus balanced.[/quote:10j419ao]

1: you dont get to decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel as im the host.
2: its not the same as horus its got a LP effect and is therefore not an exact copy[/quote:10j419ao]

It's literally the same fucking card, dude. You just removed the summoning restriction.[/quote:10j419ao]
its not the same its got a LP increase for my opponent.

[quote="CrystalMusic":10m8y4j0]1: you dont get to decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel as im the host.[/quote:10m8y4j0]
Citation needed. Also, quite the megalomaniac reasoning.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3l7s1wdz][quote="LightCaster":3l7s1wdz][quote="CrystalMusic":3l7s1wdz]

1: you dont get to decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel as im the host.
2: its not the same as horus its got a LP effect and is therefore not an exact copy[/quote:3l7s1wdz]

It's literally the same fucking card, dude. You just removed the summoning restriction.[/quote:3l7s1wdz]
its not the same its got a LP increase for my opponent.[/quote:3l7s1wdz]

Great, but you can still negate ANYTHING THEY ACTIVATE for free. If you don't think that's busted then there is something actually wrong with you.

and how many times have i said this: i tend to rinse and repeat a few effects in all my decks like:
spell negations
trap negations
summon/effect negations
1 turn stuns
and more

how long have you watched me duel and this still hasnt caught on?!?!?!

[quote="CrystalMusic":4w1ydbvy]and how many times have i said this: i tend to rinse and repeat a few effects in all my decks like:
spell negations
trap negations
summon/effect negations
1 turn stuns
and more

how long have you watched me duel and this still hasnt caught on?!?!?![/quote:4w1ydbvy]

Then you use these effects with no costs. That's a busted fucking card you fucking imbicle. You can't bitch about your opponent using busted effects if these effects are costless.

[quote="LightCaster":3sdpmbrc][quote="CrystalMusic":3sdpmbrc][quote="LightCaster":3sdpmbrc]

It's literally the same fucking card, dude. You just removed the summoning restriction.[/quote:3sdpmbrc]
its not the same its got a LP increase for my opponent.[/quote:3sdpmbrc]

Great, but you can still negate ANYTHING THEY ACTIVATE for free. If you don't think that's busted then there is something actually wrong with you.[/quote:3sdpmbrc]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it

[quote="CrystalMusic":2n4k2k33]and how many times have i said this: i tend to rinse and repeat a few effects in all my decks like:
spell negations
trap negations
summon/effect negations
1 turn stuns
and more

how long have you watched me duel and this still hasnt caught on?!?!?![/quote:2n4k2k33]
Appeal to tradition is still a fallacy.

[quote="CrystalMusic":32wuh1dh]

1: you dont get the decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel
[/quote:32wuh1dh]
Anyone can call your cards broken; doesn't mean they're always right, they can be wrong like how your evaluations regarding balance are almost always wrong. Doesn't matter if it's in your duels. A busted card is a busted card. You use uninteractable platinum angels or your paladin deck which is broken by every metric of game design.

[quote="CrystalMusic":37llqjl6][quote="LightCaster":37llqjl6][quote="CrystalMusic":37llqjl6]
its not the same its got a LP increase for my opponent.[/quote:37llqjl6]

Great, but you can still negate ANYTHING THEY ACTIVATE for free. If you don't think that's busted then there is something actually wrong with you.[/quote:37llqjl6]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:37llqjl6]

Literally summoning a card and denying your opponent for playing spells and traps doesn't sound busted to you? are you serious?

[quote="LightCaster":3bx1sha4][quote="CrystalMusic":3bx1sha4]and how many times have i said this: i tend to rinse and repeat a few effects in all my decks like:
spell negations
trap negations
summon/effect negations
1 turn stuns
and more

how long have you watched me duel and this still hasnt caught on?!?!?![/quote:3bx1sha4]

Then you use these effects with no costs. That's a busted fucking card you fucking imbicle. You can't bitch about your opponent using busted effects if these effects are costless.[/quote:3bx1sha4]

umm wrong.

my summon negators always cost 1000 or more LP in order to be activated
my spell/trap negators always cost 500 or more LP in order to be activated

paying lp is a cost. dont beleve me? reffer to 7 tools of the bandit

[quote="CrystalMusic":mz8aox5h][quote="LightCaster":mz8aox5h][quote="CrystalMusic":mz8aox5h]
its not the same its got a LP increase for my opponent.[/quote:mz8aox5h]

Great, but you can still negate ANYTHING THEY ACTIVATE for free. If you don't think that's busted then there is something actually wrong with you.[/quote:mz8aox5h]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:mz8aox5h]
By that same logic, it wouldn't be slavery if workers got at least 1 cent as wage, right? "Getting something out of it" is not the same as equivalence.

[quote="NiwatoriFTW":cklh0dln][quote="CrystalMusic":cklh0dln]1: you dont get to decide what is BUSTED in MY duels. i make that call cas its MY duel as im the host.[/quote:cklh0dln]
Citation needed. Also, quite the megalomaniac reasoning.[/quote:cklh0dln]
Nothing less from a fucking tyrant. Not one-sided, HA! What a joke.

[quote="CrystalMusic":cklh0dln]
and how many times have i said this: i tend to rinse and repeat a few effects in all my decks like:
spell negations
trap negations
summon/effect negations
1 turn stuns
and more

how long have you watched me duel and this still hasnt caught on?!?!?!

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:cklh0dln]
But you fail miserably in balance! Who care about 1000 LP gain if the opponent mainly ran Spells. That's your cheap win of the day! Busted/broken are not subjective, but OBJECTIVE!

[quote="CrystalMusic":29pu357v][quote="LightCaster":29pu357v][quote="CrystalMusic":29pu357v]and how many times have i said this: i tend to rinse and repeat a few effects in all my decks like:
spell negations
trap negations
summon/effect negations
1 turn stuns
and more

how long have you watched me duel and this still hasnt caught on?!?!?![/quote:29pu357v]

Then you use these effects with no costs. That's a busted fucking card you fucking imbicle. You can't bitch about your opponent using busted effects if these effects are costless.[/quote:29pu357v]

umm wrong.

my summon negators always cost 1000 or more LP in order to be activated
my spell/trap negators always cost 500 or more LP in order to be activated[/quote:29pu357v]

That's literally nothing. Solemn Warning has a 2000 LP cost. Solemn Judgement has a 1500 LP cost. You need to go higher with your costs if you're going LP.

[quote="NiwatoriFTW":bk6roo8c][quote="CrystalMusic":bk6roo8c][quote="LightCaster":bk6roo8c]

Great, but you can still negate ANYTHING THEY ACTIVATE for free. If you don't think that's busted then there is something actually wrong with you.[/quote:bk6roo8c]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:bk6roo8c]
By that same logic, it wouldn't be slavery if workers got at least 1 cent as wage, right? "Getting something out of it" is not the same as equivalence.[/quote:bk6roo8c]

irrelevent, you cant compare a card game to slavery, both are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!!

[quote="CrystalMusic":1pg861pp][quote="NiwatoriFTW":1pg861pp][quote="CrystalMusic":1pg861pp]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:1pg861pp]
By that same logic, it wouldn't be slavery if workers got at least 1 cent as wage, right? "Getting something out of it" is not the same as equivalence.[/quote:1pg861pp]

irrelevent, you cant compare a card game to slavery, both are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!![/quote:1pg861pp]

IT's using your logic. Just because your opponent gets something out of it doesn't discredit how wrong or busted it is.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2jgvzgn6]

umm wrong.

my summon negators always cost 1000 or more LP in order to be activated
my spell/trap negators always cost 500 or more LP in order to be activated
[/quote:2jgvzgn6]
Nonconditional summon negation is at minimum a 2000 lp cost.

[quote="LightCaster":2p2l311t][quote="CrystalMusic":2p2l311t][quote="LightCaster":2p2l311t]

Then you use these effects with no costs. That's a busted fucking card you fucking imbicle. You can't bitch about your opponent using busted effects if these effects are costless.[/quote:2p2l311t]

umm wrong.

my summon negators always cost 1000 or more LP in order to be activated
my spell/trap negators always cost 500 or more LP in order to be activated[/quote:2p2l311t]

That's literally nothing. Solemn Warning has a 2000 LP cost. Solemn Judgement has a 1500 LP cost. You need to go higher with your costs if you're going LP.[/quote:2p2l311t]

wrong again, judgement can have any lp cost from 50 to whatever number is half of your current lp. 50, and to negate what? pretty much ANYTHING? and you say my cards are busted. HA now thats funny!

[quote="NiwatoriFTW":2gjxs13o][quote="CrystalMusic":2gjxs13o][quote="LightCaster":2gjxs13o]

Great, but you can still negate ANYTHING THEY ACTIVATE for free. If you don't think that's busted then there is something actually wrong with you.[/quote:2gjxs13o]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:2gjxs13o]
By that same logic, it wouldn't be slavery if workers got at least 1 cent as wage, right? "Getting something out of it" is not the same as equivalence.[/quote:2gjxs13o]

Someone should make a stupid custom deck and then play against him. Any takers?

[quote="Rocket2":qclk5wtr][quote="NiwatoriFTW":qclk5wtr][quote="CrystalMusic":qclk5wtr]

seems we have a difference of opinion of what makes something FREE its not free, my opponent gets something out of it[/quote:qclk5wtr]
By that same logic, it wouldn't be slavery if workers got at least 1 cent as wage, right? "Getting something out of it" is not the same as equivalence.[/quote:qclk5wtr]
[/quote:qclk5wtr]

no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3iaoi4wk][quote="LightCaster":3iaoi4wk][quote="CrystalMusic":3iaoi4wk]

umm wrong.

my summon negators always cost 1000 or more LP in order to be activated
my spell/trap negators always cost 500 or more LP in order to be activated[/quote:3iaoi4wk]

That's literally nothing. Solemn Warning has a 2000 LP cost. Solemn Judgement has a 1500 LP cost. You need to go higher with your costs if you're going LP.[/quote:3iaoi4wk]

wrong again, judgement can have any lp cost from 50 to whatever number is half of your current lp.[/quote:3iaoi4wk]



Last line of the card: "Pay Half your LP" The only way you're paying 50LP is if the monster has 100 ATK

im not even gonna try to decipher that shit!

[quote="CrystalMusic":zfjmpwnl]
no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.[/quote:zfjmpwnl]
Can you pay for food using pocket lint? Because giving LP is so worthless it might as well be pocket lint

[quote="CrystalMusic":1o67cq0t][quote="LightCaster":1o67cq0t][quote="CrystalMusic":1o67cq0t]

umm wrong.

my summon negators always cost 1000 or more LP in order to be activated
my spell/trap negators always cost 500 or more LP in order to be activated[/quote:1o67cq0t]

That's literally nothing. Solemn Warning has a 2000 LP cost. Solemn Judgement has a 1500 LP cost. You need to go higher with your costs if you're going LP.[/quote:1o67cq0t]

wrong again, judgement can have any lp cost from 50 to whatever number is half of your current lp. 50, and to negate what? pretty much ANYTHING? and you say my cards are busted. HA now thats funny![/quote:1o67cq0t]
In which realistic Scenario would you have judgement at 100 lp, it generally revolves around 3000 lp pay, HA! and i thought my mind was stupid and HOLLOW.

and apparently you didn't learn slavery correctly in school, they still had a home and food and water as long as they did what they were told.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1c10l0oc]and apparently you didn't learn slavery correctly in school, they still had a home and food and water as long as they did what they were told.[/quote:1c10l0oc]

So in your mind that means slavery is okay since they have a home, food and water?

[quote="Debt":3non5uft][quote="CrystalMusic":3non5uft]
no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.[/quote:3non5uft]
Can you pay for food using pocket lint? Because giving LP is so worthless it might as well be pocket lint[/quote:3non5uft]

how many times do i have to remind you guys: in a duel against me LP is like having heat in your house during winter. its essential.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2cj6dbg7][quote="Rocket2":2cj6dbg7][quote="NiwatoriFTW":2cj6dbg7]
By that same logic, it wouldn't be slavery if workers got at least 1 cent as wage, right? "Getting something out of it" is not the same as equivalence.[/quote:2cj6dbg7]
[/quote:2cj6dbg7]

no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.[/quote:2cj6dbg7]
It's not a direct comparison on the subject, but the principle.

You claim that your card doesn't negate for free, since the opponent gets something. Even though it doesn't matter to you if it's a fair compensation.

Likewise, if jobs followed that logic, then if workers got even if just a cent from their labour, they wouldn't be working for free. Even though it's not a fair compensation.

[quote="CrystalMusic":35sp6m6i][quote="Debt":35sp6m6i][quote="CrystalMusic":35sp6m6i]
no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.[/quote:35sp6m6i]
Can you pay for food using pocket lint? Because giving LP is so worthless it might as well be pocket lint[/quote:35sp6m6i]

how many times do i have to remind you guys: in a duel against me LP is like having heat in your house during winter. its essential.[/quote:35sp6m6i]

Tell that to most archetypes who use LP as a cost. Like Solemn Judgement here. Paying HALF YOUR LP to stop ONE summon.

[quote="CrystalMusic":21rznnw1]

how many times do i have to remind you guys: in a duel against me LP is like having heat in your house during winter. its essential.[/quote:21rznnw1]
Except it doesn't matter in your duels. You can pretend all you want that LP is somehow worth anything in this game but you frequently swing for over 20k atk, so unless your giving hundreds of thousands of LP then it's worthless.

[quote="LightCaster":2ote1qc6][quote="CrystalMusic":2ote1qc6]and apparently you didn't learn slavery correctly in school, they still had a home and food and water as long as they did what they were told.[/quote:2ote1qc6]

So in your mind that means slavery is okay since they have a home, food and water?[/quote:2ote1qc6]

and there you go, putting words in my mouth that i never said all because you asume.

1: slavery is wrong
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane

[quote="CrystalMusic":17uokj97][quote="LightCaster":17uokj97]
So in your mind that means slavery is okay since they have a home, food and water?[/quote:17uokj97]

and there you go, putting words in my mouth that i never said all because you asume.

1: slavery is wrong
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane[/quote:17uokj97]
LIKE YOURSELF!!! You fucking tyrant did just that to everyone you ever meet. Its all about you!

[quote="NiwatoriFTW":31jp66jh][quote="CrystalMusic":31jp66jh][quote="Rocket2":31jp66jh]
[/quote:31jp66jh]

no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.[/quote:31jp66jh]
It's not a direct comparison on the subject, but the principle.

You claim that your card doesn't negate for free, since the opponent gets something. Even though it doesn't matter to you if it's a fair compensation.

Likewise, if jobs followed that logic, then if workers got even if just a cent from their labour, they wouldn't be working for free. Even though it's not a fair compensation.[/quote:31jp66jh]

again you are comparing a card game to real life.
if i was a boss, i would pay workers based on experience, hard work, and loyalty

[quote="CrystalMusic":19yy1gny][quote="LightCaster":19yy1gny][quote="CrystalMusic":19yy1gny]and apparently you didn't learn slavery correctly in school, they still had a home and food and water as long as they did what they were told.[/quote:19yy1gny]

So in your mind that means slavery is okay since they have a home, food and water?[/quote:19yy1gny]

and there you go, putting words in my mouth that i never said all because you asume.

1: slavery is wrong
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane[/quote:19yy1gny]

You literally are acting like it's okay to have slaves just because they have a home, food and water. We're using it as an example of your flawed logic.

Just because you're giving your opponent something in a card effect and then follow up with a busted one doesn't invalidate how busted the other effect is. Just like slavery is still bad even though you're giving them three essential needs.

[quote="CrystalMusic":gvnl9ulj]
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane[/quote:gvnl9ulj]
holy shit do you think MLK and Rosa Parks fought against slavery? Slavery had been abolished for 100 years in the USA the time of their activism. Their struggle was civil rights not abolition

[quote="Debt":3t7hpbrf][quote="CrystalMusic":3t7hpbrf]

how many times do i have to remind you guys: in a duel against me LP is like having heat in your house during winter. its essential.[/quote:3t7hpbrf]
Except it doesn't matter in your duels. You can pretend all you want that LP is somehow worth anything in this game but you frequently swing for over 20k atk, so unless your giving hundreds of thousands of LP then it's worthless.[/quote:3t7hpbrf]

ok let me correct myself: LP AND ATK POINTS

[quote="LightCaster":2f50cqkb][quote="CrystalMusic":2f50cqkb][quote="LightCaster":2f50cqkb]

So in your mind that means slavery is okay since they have a home, food and water?[/quote:2f50cqkb]

and there you go, putting words in my mouth that i never said all because you asume.

1: slavery is wrong
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane[/quote:2f50cqkb]

You literally are acting like it's okay to have slaves just because they have a home, food and water. We're using it as an example of your flawed logic.

Just because you're giving your opponent something in a card effect and then follow up with a busted one doesn't invalidate how busted the other effect is. Just like slavery is still bad even though you're giving them three essential needs.[/quote:2f50cqkb]

apparently you cant read i just got done saying SLAVERY IS WRONG, INHUMANE and UNJUST
ALSO
STOP COMPARING A CARD GAME TO SLAVERY!

[quote="Debt":285j3w13][quote="CrystalMusic":285j3w13]
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane[/quote:285j3w13]
holy shit do you think MLK and Rosa Parks fought against slavery? Slavery had been abolished for 100 years in the USA the time of their activism. Their struggle was civil rights not abolition[/quote:285j3w13]

seems you didnt read or study about them. go back to school.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1fzaznuu]
ok let me correct myself: LP AND ATK POINTS[/quote:1fzaznuu]
Do you give your opponents 70k lp to fight against your paladin deck? No. Therefore any LP gain "downside" is worthless because they need at least 70k LP to survive the turn Divine is summoned.

[quote="CrystalMusic":23pyrte6][quote="LightCaster":23pyrte6][quote="CrystalMusic":23pyrte6]

and there you go, putting words in my mouth that i never said all because you asume.

1: slavery is wrong
2: why do you think many heros like Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, and even Abraham Lincoln fought for freedom for the slaves? they thought it was wrong, unjust and inhumane[/quote:23pyrte6]

You literally are acting like it's okay to have slaves just because they have a home, food and water. We're using it as an example of your flawed logic.

Just because you're giving your opponent something in a card effect and then follow up with a busted one doesn't invalidate how busted the other effect is. Just like slavery is still bad even though you're giving them three essential needs.[/quote:23pyrte6]

apparently you cant read i just got done saying SLAVERY IS WRONG, INHUMANE and UNJUST
ALSO
STOP COMPARING A CARD GAME TO SLAVERY![/quote:23pyrte6]

STOP USING RETARDED LOGIC TO JUSTIFY YOUR SHITTY BEHAVIOR AND WE WON'T MAKE THE FUCKING COMPARISON YOU FUCKING RETARD.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1hxcjmqm]
again you are comparing a card game to real life.
if i was a boss, i would pay workers based on experience, hard work, and loyalty[/quote:1hxcjmqm]
More like pay on loyalty. You fire anyone if they don't follow you like sheep.

[quote="CrystalMusic":231g807r][quote="NiwatoriFTW":231g807r][quote="CrystalMusic":231g807r]

no not roasted, you cannot compare slavery to a card game.[/quote:231g807r]
It's not a direct comparison on the subject, but the principle.

You claim that your card doesn't negate for free, since the opponent gets something. Even though it doesn't matter to you if it's a fair compensation.

Likewise, if jobs followed that logic, then if workers got even if just a cent from their labour, they wouldn't be working for free. Even though it's not a fair compensation.[/quote:231g807r]

again you are comparing a card game to real life.
if i was a boss, i would pay workers based on experience, hard work, and loyalty[/quote:231g807r]
Again, I'm comparing principles, not the subject themselves. The principle of equivalence. Cards being negated freely should be compensated on your effort for bringing them or card advantage for the opponent. The way you do is as rewarding as a couple of cents as a wage for hard labour. I'm actually surprised how it's hard for you to grasp metaphorical comparisons.

Also, you act like the boss of your duels and, yet, you doesn't seem able even provide equivalence for your opponents' efforts against your card negations, neither in card advantage or game state.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2kohchwq]
seems you didnt read or study about them. go back to school.[/quote:2kohchwq]
Slavery was abolished for almost 100 years by the 1950s. How the hell do you not know this? Do you know what the 13th amendment is? What MLK and Rose Parks fought for was civil rights, desegregation and equality. Not to end an institution that ceased being for almost an entire century. How ignorant are you?

[quote="Debt":34oy56zo][quote="CrystalMusic":34oy56zo]
ok let me correct myself: LP AND ATK POINTS[/quote:34oy56zo]
Do you give your opponents 70k lp to fight against your paladin deck? No. Therefore any LP gain "downside" is worthless because they need at least 70k LP to survive the turn Divine is summoned.[/quote:34oy56zo]

1: its not my job to increase my opponents LP. not my problem they assume LP mean nothing
2: i rarely use my paladin deck.

[quote="LightCaster":3hog28pe][quote="CrystalMusic":3hog28pe][quote="LightCaster":3hog28pe]

You literally are acting like it's okay to have slaves just because they have a home, food and water. We're using it as an example of your flawed logic.

Just because you're giving your opponent something in a card effect and then follow up with a busted one doesn't invalidate how busted the other effect is. Just like slavery is still bad even though you're giving them three essential needs.[/quote:3hog28pe]

apparently you cant read i just got done saying SLAVERY IS WRONG, INHUMANE and UNJUST
ALSO
STOP COMPARING A CARD GAME TO SLAVERY![/quote:3hog28pe]

STOP USING RETARDED LOGIC TO JUSTIFY YOUR SHITTY BEHAVIOR AND WE WON'T MAKE THE FUCKING COMPARISON YOU FUCKING RETARD.[/quote:3hog28pe]

so factual history is retarded logic now? what?

[quote="Rocket2":3rmzl24u][quote="CrystalMusic":3rmzl24u]
again you are comparing a card game to real life.
if i was a boss, i would pay workers based on experience, hard work, and loyalty[/quote:3rmzl24u]
More like pay on loyalty. You fire anyone if they don't follow you like sheep.[/quote:3rmzl24u]

dude, if i did that do you know how fast my business would be investigated and shut down?

[quote="CrystalMusic":2sgtlh46]

1: its not my job to increase my opponents LP. not my problem they assume LP mean nothing
2: i rarely use my paladin deck.[/quote:2sgtlh46]
Irrelevant. It's not reasonable to expect your opponent to have over 70k lp to tank a direct hit from Divine even if your opponents believe LP has meaning. Because you do so much damage in 1 turn it makes any built in "downside" that your LP gifting is not a real downside.

[quote="CrystalMusic":1r417h7w][quote="LightCaster":1r417h7w][quote="CrystalMusic":1r417h7w]

apparently you cant read i just got done saying SLAVERY IS WRONG, INHUMANE and UNJUST
ALSO
STOP COMPARING A CARD GAME TO SLAVERY![/quote:1r417h7w]

STOP USING RETARDED LOGIC TO JUSTIFY YOUR SHITTY BEHAVIOR AND WE WON'T MAKE THE FUCKING COMPARISON YOU FUCKING RETARD.[/quote:1r417h7w]

so factual history is retarded logic now? what?[/quote:1r417h7w]

We're using your logic with slavery. Something very bad. Just like your busted card. Very bad. You claim that giving your opponent a beneficial effect invalidates the busted effect, like giving a slave a home food and water.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3aj6zb7u]
1: its not my job to increase my opponents LP. not my problem they assume LP mean nothing[/quote:3aj6zb7u]
You treats LP as nothing too! What about your "Kaida - Dovah of Protection"?! You paid 4k just to telegraph to your opponent, "I win Bitch!".
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830

[quote="LightCaster":242mijqz][quote="CrystalMusic":242mijqz][quote="LightCaster":242mijqz]

STOP USING RETARDED LOGIC TO JUSTIFY YOUR SHITTY BEHAVIOR AND WE WON'T MAKE THE FUCKING COMPARISON YOU FUCKING RETARD.[/quote:242mijqz]

so factual history is retarded logic now? what?[/quote:242mijqz]

We're using your logic with slavery. Something very bad. Just like your busted card. Very bad. You claim that giving your opponent a beneficial effect invalidates the busted effect, like giving a slave a home food and water.[/quote:242mijqz]

apparently you still cant FUCKING READ, i never said slavery was right!!!!
its wrong, dead wrong!

[quote="CrystalMusic":3r245xva][quote="Rocket2":3r245xva][quote="CrystalMusic":3r245xva]
again you are comparing a card game to real life.
if i was a boss, i would pay workers based on experience, hard work, and loyalty[/quote:3r245xva]
More like pay on loyalty. You fire anyone if they don't follow you like sheep.[/quote:3r245xva]

dude, if i did that do you know how fast my business would be investigated and shut down?[/quote:3r245xva]
Discord server in a nutshell

Are we gonna ignore that crystal believes slavery in the USA was a thing into the mid 20th century?

oh FFS why do i even bother arguing with you ignorant insignificant wastes of oxygen? when all that happens is you dont even read what i say and keep going in circles.

good day im done here until yall learn how to read and stop putting words in my mouth that i never said

imma go decimate ppl on NFS using a Dodge Viper when they use the Zonda

[quote="CrystalMusic":is7sa3i6]oh FFS why do i even bother arguing with you ignorant insignificant wastes of oxygen? when all that happens is you dont even read what i say and keep going in circles.

good day im done here until yall learn how to read and stop putting words in my mouth that i never said

imma go decimate ppl on NFS using a Dodge Viper when they use the Zonda[/quote:is7sa3i6]

He says while at the moment of posting this resposne, I'm watching him duel.

Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument

Good day to you as well. Hopefully you'll learn how metaphors and non-literal comparisons works, so you won't dismiss my arguments so promptly.

250 posts, this must be like, the longest, most disgusting thread started by CM, started as a "random" post, then went to a heated Skyrim debate, and now we're back to the usual destroying of CM with facts and logic.

[quote="Debt":1vq6tca5]Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument[/quote:1vq6tca5]

its pointless to argue with an idiot!

[quote="greg503":229217qc]250 posts, this must be like, the longest, most disgusting thread started by CM, started as a "random" post, then went to a heated Skyrim debate, and now we're back to the usual destroying of CM with facts and logic.[/quote:229217qc]
For now. "i had someone say this card is broken" was 239 posts. A new records will came soon as long as he is still around.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2gmuov4j][quote="Debt":2gmuov4j]Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument[/quote:2gmuov4j]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:2gmuov4j]
You tell me!

[quote="CrystalMusic":3mbwxa41]
its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:3mbwxa41]
I shouldn't argue with an idiot but here I am. At least I know that MLK wasn't an abolitionist

[quote="CrystalMusic":5fho5hmw][quote="Debt":5fho5hmw]Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument[/quote:5fho5hmw]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:5fho5hmw]

Hilarious coming from someone who claims to be a lawyer, is an arrogant ablest jerk who can't debate properly without reading the evidence provided. I literally have replays and Debt has other posts of you being the biggest jackass this site has ever known. And you say we're stupid when you can't hold a debate. Doesn't know proper grammar (Cas is supposed to be spelled as "Cuz") and will resort to only two forms of fallacies and also doesn't know that MLK and Rosa Parks stopped SEGREGATION. Not slavery.

[quote="Lil Oldman":5eqyf4yi][quote="CrystalMusic":5eqyf4yi][quote="Debt":5eqyf4yi]Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument[/quote:5eqyf4yi]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:5eqyf4yi]
You tell me![/quote:5eqyf4yi]

FYI i was reffering to you!

[quote="LightCaster":2sviuw3v][quote="CrystalMusic":2sviuw3v][quote="Debt":2sviuw3v]Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument[/quote:2sviuw3v]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:2sviuw3v]

Hilarious coming from someone who claims to be a lawyer, is an arrogant ablest jerk who can't debate properly without reading the evidence provided. I literally have replays and Debt has other posts of you being the biggest jackass this site has ever known. And you say we're stupid when you can't hold a debate. Doesn't know proper grammar (Cas is supposed to be spelled as "Cuz") and will resort to only two forms of fallacies and also doesn't know that MLK and Rosa Parks stopped SEGREGATION. Not slavery.[/quote:2sviuw3v]

whatever they still fought for blacks rights!

[quote="CrystalMusic":16oqwdns][quote="Lil Oldman":16oqwdns][quote="CrystalMusic":16oqwdns]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:16oqwdns]
You tell me![/quote:16oqwdns]

FYI i was reffering to you![/quote:16oqwdns]
OH NO! THE IDIOT CALLED THE IDIOT AN IDIOT! like dude, do you really think I care you calling me an idiot, I dunno if you remember my last signature, but I am a certified idot and a profissinal mockr, you took the bait!

[quote="CrystalMusic":19s09nfe][quote="LightCaster":19s09nfe][quote="CrystalMusic":19s09nfe]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:19s09nfe]

Hilarious coming from someone who claims to be a lawyer, is an arrogant ablest jerk who can't debate properly without reading the evidence provided. I literally have replays and Debt has other posts of you being the biggest jackass this site has ever known. And you say we're stupid when you can't hold a debate. Doesn't know proper grammar (Cas is supposed to be spelled as "Cuz") and will resort to only two forms of fallacies and also doesn't know that MLK and Rosa Parks stopped SEGREGATION. Not slavery.[/quote:19s09nfe]

whatever they still fought for blacks rights![/quote:19s09nfe]

I've literally shown you evidence proving a few things you've claimed to be incorrect. Yet you call me an idiot? Okay.

[quote="CrystalMusic":3aqkeqh4]
whatever they still fought for blacks rights![/quote:3aqkeqh4]
Moving the goal post is a fallacy. You literally didn't know basic facts about American history and just can't admit you were wrong.

Like just admit you're wrong when you're wrong. You can't cause an integer overflow and magically become correct.

[quote="Lil Oldman":284js24c][quote="CrystalMusic":284js24c][quote="Lil Oldman":284js24c]
You tell me![/quote:284js24c]

FYI i was reffering to you![/quote:284js24c]
OH NO! THE IDIOT CALLED THE IDIOT AN IDIOT! like dude, do you really think I care you calling me an idiot, I dunno if you remember my last signature, but I am a certified idot and a profissinal mockr, you took the bait![/quote:284js24c]
CM probably rn: https://youtu.be/MkD_QoxvpF8?t=9

[quote="CrystalMusic":y0cfjox6][quote="Debt":y0cfjox6]Stop evading the central question because you're unable to make a reasonable argument[/quote:y0cfjox6]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:y0cfjox6]


no no no, its pointless, to argue with a retard

The Real Description of Crystal Music

doesn't know how to play yugioh
constantly lies (and can land in legal ramifications)
calls others retards, faggots, and idiots
can't handle being wrong
can't handle losing
doesn't know American History
has their head so far up their ass its coming out of their mouth and shoving themselves back into their ass.
has a god complex
can't hold a debate
can't handle any form of opposition
is a dictator
throws an entire bitch fit when things don't go its way

[quote="Renji Asuka":2loh4kqt]The Real Description of Crystal Music

doesn't know how to play yugioh
constantly lies (and can land in legal ramifications)
calls others retards, faggots, and idiots
can't handle being wrong
can't handle losing
doesn't know American History
has their head so far up their ass its coming out of their mouth and shoving themselves back into their ass.
has a god complex
can't hold a debate
can't handle any form of opposition
is a dictator
throws an entire bitch fit when things don't go its way[/quote:2loh4kqt]
Can't think critically, can't evaluate things beyond the surface level, doesn't understand metaphors, similes or analogies, cannot seek information on own; needs to be spoonfed at all times, overall ignorant and proud of it, cherry picks information, egomaniacal, narcissistic, unable to handle criticism, conflates all criticism as personal attacks, Dunning-Kruger incarnate

[quote="Debt":1rhhtdov][quote="Renji Asuka":1rhhtdov]The Real Description of Crystal Music

doesn't know how to play yugioh
constantly lies (and can land in legal ramifications)
calls others retards, faggots, and idiots
can't handle being wrong
can't handle losing
doesn't know American History
has their head so far up their ass its coming out of their mouth and shoving themselves back into their ass.
has a god complex
can't hold a debate
can't handle any form of opposition
is a dictator
throws an entire bitch fit when things don't go its way[/quote:1rhhtdov]
Can't think critically, can't evaluate things beyond the surface level, doesn't understand metaphors, similes or analogies, cannot seek information on own; needs to be spoonfed at all times, overall ignorant and proud of it, cherry picks information, egomaniacal, narcissistic, unable to handle criticism, conflates all criticism as personal attacks, Dunning-Kruger incarnate[/quote:1rhhtdov]
You left out ableist.

[quote="CrystalMusic":2tpqwavj][quote="LightCaster":2tpqwavj][quote="CrystalMusic":2tpqwavj]

its pointless to argue with an idiot![/quote:2tpqwavj]

Hilarious coming from someone who claims to be a lawyer, is an arrogant ablest jerk who can't debate properly without reading the evidence provided. I literally have replays and Debt has other posts of you being the biggest jackass this site has ever known. And you say we're stupid when you can't hold a debate. Doesn't know proper grammar (Cas is supposed to be spelled as "Cuz") and will resort to only two forms of fallacies and also doesn't know that MLK and Rosa Parks stopped SEGREGATION. Not slavery.[/quote:2tpqwavj]

whatever they still fought for blacks rights![/quote:2tpqwavj]
Well, you're ablest and homophobic, but at least you're not a racist I guess.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1q5nhlrv]The Real Description of Crystal Music

doesn't know how to play yugioh
constantly lies (and can land in legal ramifications)
calls others retards, faggots, and idiots
can't handle being wrong
can't handle losing
doesn't know American History
has their head so far up their ass its coming out of their mouth and shoving themselves back into their ass.
has a god complex
can't hold a debate
can't handle any form of opposition
is a dictator
throws an entire bitch fit when things don't go its way[/quote:1q5nhlrv]
And don't forget about running away from arguments he can't win but still declares himself the victor regardless. And not to mention ablest and homophobic

Who here is having fun here? I am