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In several other forms I listed several things wrong with DB, here I will do a list of them all:

1. Trust
For this site to be successfull trust must exist between the judges and players, and because of the below that trust has been broken

2. Uncalled for punishment
To understand this, you must remember the point of punishment: to stop the problem from happening again. Punishment on this site then to be enforced ignoring this.

3. So-called rule-breaking
On this site things that are not on the rules are used in punishments

4. Over- punishment
Often times people are punished more than the written punishment

5. It’s byast against poor and elderly people
On avarage poorer people will live in apartments, and elderly will live in an old-folks home. In these places everyone uses the same internet, and in the rules it states: “anything that happens on your internet is your responsibility” and since they share inrpternet, that means that if one does something warranting a ban, everyone gets one.

Lol

[quote="Lil Oldman":3trvap0q]Lol[/quote:3trvap0q]
You are dissregarding so many important things. These posts are not for amusement; they are for justice

1- I trust them as much of us do, only the ones being punished do not trust them
2,3,4 - Thats what we call retroactiveness
5- Thats almost everywhere, everyone in 1 network is responsible for what they do in there.
There, now allow me to lol

Fun fact, judges have had their administrative powers revoked when over-punish, so I don't worry too much about potential admin abuse.
Also, it's spelled bias/biased, you alt

[quote="Lil Oldman":1dt36x8j]1- I trust them as much of us do, only the ones being punished do not trust them
2,3,4 - Thats what we call retroactiveness
5- Thats almost everywhere, everyone in 1 network is responsible for what they do in there.
There, now allow me to lol[/quote:1dt36x8j]
1- I have never been punished by judge but I don’t trust them
2,3,4- rerroacrivenessmeansconsidering past problems, yet there are notes to allow this in some situations in the rules, and because of that it means that it doesn’t apply to other punishments.
Also may of these people have no malicious history
5- I don’t understand you pr point

My balls are clenched.

Also, hello Dark Cyborg. Yes, we ALL know this is your alt.

[quote="d1234":10j60z4u][quote="Lil Oldman":10j60z4u]1- I trust them as much of us do, only the ones being punished do not trust them
2,3,4 - Thats what we call retroactiveness
5- Thats almost everywhere, everyone in 1 network is responsible for what they do in there.
There, now allow me to lol[/quote:10j60z4u]
1- I have never been punished by judge but I don’t trust them
2,3,4- rerroacrivenessmeansconsidering past problems, yet there are notes to allow this in some situations in the rules, and because of that it means that it doesn’t apply to other punishments.
Also may of these people have no malicious history
5- I don’t understand you pr point[/quote:10j60z4u]
1- You are dark Cyborg, so you have been punished
1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.
THESE ABOVE NO LONGER STAY TRUE, MY POINT OF VIEW HAS BEEN CLEARED, D1234 IT IS NOT DARK CYBORG.
2,3,4- Retroactiveness isnt just about the past problems, but to adapt, hence the use of it upon Dark Cyvorg.
5- If someone gets everyone banned in a network, it is everyone's fault on not preventing it.

Now if you allow me, lol

Duelingbook's Judges are doing their best in treating everyone fair - You literally CANNOT get punished unless you do really fucked up things, and even then it is only a freeze for a few days. I actually feel like they let too much things up go through. If you get punished on this website, you 100% deserve it

If the admins were the oppressive tyrants you want to paint them as, wouldn't they attempt to suppress your posts?

These posts are so repetitive. There is "blah blah blah" wrong with the site. The admins do "blah blah" wrong and are bad. Yawwwn. Next time when you shitpost, actually be creative or identify a real issue, rather then spouting a narrative that is both incorrect and boring.

If anything we are extremely lenient in our penalties we even lessened some of the days for some offenses a while back. It is also up to the judge to decide if a penalty requires a freeze gameloss ban etc. pending on the situation on even in a case that might be clean cut stalling to others pending on that situation a freeze may or may not be issued. Freezes are meant to help resolve an issue with a player if just sternly warning them isn’t enough. There have been several times where players acted inappropriately but neither were frozen by me and such behavior did not continue ever again. The purpose of the judge team is to make the site as user friendly as possible while weeding out issues that might get in the way of that. The rules as explained many times to you are not limited by examples of anything stated there of. We must use our judgment and well formed opinions of a situation to decide if an action performed by a player should fall under X rule if it is a big enough of a problem. 99% of players penalized are penalized because their actions were not appropriate for the site and the judge decided that to be the case. While there have been extremely rare cases of a judtt her e overstepping their boundaries those judges are always promptly removed. We can also make mistakes or misread a situation at times usually resulting in a freeze being lifted but even in those cases the actions of the player were still not acceptable regardless. People who get penalized always pull the “I did nothing wrong card” because it isn’t explicitly “listed” on the rules page. I assure you if you do inappropriate behavior not fit for the site it will be addressed. directly listed on the rules page or not. If we listed every possible thing we could penalize you for the rules would be a 300 page document.

If you don’t want to get penalized just follow these simple steps.

1.) behave like a human being
2.) be respectful or at the very least don’t be disrespectful
3.) don’t cheat

This is literally all I’m asking of you.

I mean one problem I have is the judges when people say something against them like the top post someone like darkphoenix acts like it's just complaining and goes blag blah blah I'm so sick of the judges that act like they are above anyone here one time he said I was spamming I just type fast and when I said I dint he said something like ill come back when this ridiculousness is over or something along those lines I just know he used the word like whenever someone says something its haha nice alt for so and so or stop complaining not actually addressing the issue but trying to say it don't matter

[quote="Mana":zhj6x8f3]Duelingbook's Judges are doing their best in treating everyone fair - You literally CANNOT get punished unless you do really fucked up things, and even then it is only a freeze for a few days. I actually feel like they let too much things up go through. If you get punished on this website, you 100% deserve it[/quote:zhj6x8f3]
This is not true

[quote="Genexwrecker":2h1hvvz3]If anything we are extremely lenient in our penalties we even lessened some of the days for some offenses a while back. It is also up to the judge to decide if a penalty requires a freeze gameloss ban etc. pending on the situation on even in a case that might be clean cut stalling to others pending on that situation a freeze may or may not be issued. Freezes are meant to help resolve an issue with a player if just sternly warning them isn’t enough. There have been several times where players acted inappropriately but neither were frozen by me and such behavior did not continue ever again. The purpose of the judge team is to make the site as user friendly as possible while weeding out issues that might get in the way of that. The rules as explained many times to you are not limited by examples of anything stated there of. We must use our judgment and well formed opinions of a situation to decide if an action performed by a player should fall under X rule if it is a big enough of a problem. 99% of players penalized are penalized because their actions were not appropriate for the site and the judge decided that to be the case. While there have been extremely rare cases of a judtt her e overstepping their boundaries those judges are always promptly removed. We can also make mistakes or misread a situation at times usually resulting in a freeze being lifted but even in those cases the actions of the player were still not acceptable regardless. People who get penalized always pull the “I did nothing wrong card” because it isn’t explicitly “listed” on the rules page. I assure you if you do inappropriate behavior not fit for the site it will be addressed. directly listed on the rules page or not. If we listed every possible thing we could penalize you for the rules would be a 300 page document.

If you don’t want to get penalized just follow these simple steps.

1.) behave like a human being
2.) be respectful or at the very least don’t be disrespectful
3.) don’t cheat

This is literally all I’m asking of you.[/quote:2h1hvvz3]
If you want people to follow the rules ina 300 page document, wright a 300 page rule book.
Just thought I’d point out People do act like humans. Humans make mistakes

[quote="DarkPhenix":227uc5e9]These posts are so repetitive. There is "blah blah blah" wrong with the site. The admins do "blah blah" wrong and are bad. Yawwwn. Next time when you shitpost, actually be creative or identify a real issue, rather then spouting a narrative that is both incorrect and boring.[/quote:227uc5e9]
I believe this thread to be neither incorrect or boring.

[quote="troglyte":1shzzy98]My balls are clenched.

Also, hello Dark Cyborg. Yes, we ALL know this is your alt.[/quote:1shzzy98]
Actually, this is not an alt of Dark Cyborg’s

[quote="Lil Oldman":2oj1vk4j][quote="d1234":2oj1vk4j][quote="Lil Oldman":2oj1vk4j]1- I trust them as much of us do, only the ones being punished do not trust them
2,3,4 - Thats what we call retroactiveness
5- Thats almost everywhere, everyone in 1 network is responsible for what they do in there.
There, now allow me to lol[/quote:2oj1vk4j]
1- I have never been punished by judge but I don’t trust them
2,3,4- rerroacrivenessmeansconsidering past problems, yet there are notes to allow this in some situations in the rules, and because of that it means that it doesn’t apply to other punishments.
Also may of these people have no malicious history
5- I don’t understand you pr point[/quote:2oj1vk4j]
1- You are dark Cyborg, so you have been punished
1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.
2,3,4- Retroactiveness isnt just about the past problems, but to adapt, hence the use of it upon Dark Cyvorg.
5- If someone gets everyone banned in a network, it is everyone's fault on not preventing it.

Now if you allow me, lol[/quote:2oj1vk4j]
1- I am not Dark Cyborg
2,3,4- Put that in the rules then
5- this is false

[quote="greg503":rz51ole8]If the admins were the oppressive tyrants you want to paint them as, wouldn't they attempt to suppress your posts?[/quote:rz51ole8]
Does the originalthread being locked men any thing to you.

[quote="d1234":2b6aa13f][quote="Lil Oldman":2b6aa13f][quote="d1234":2b6aa13f]
1- I have never been punished by judge but I don’t trust them
2,3,4- rerroacrivenessmeansconsidering past problems, yet there are notes to allow this in some situations in the rules, and because of that it means that it doesn’t apply to other punishments.
Also may of these people have no malicious history
5- I don’t understand you pr point[/quote:2b6aa13f]
1- You are dark Cyborg, so you have been punished
1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.
2,3,4- Retroactiveness isnt just about the past problems, but to adapt, hence the use of it upon Dark Cyvorg.
5- If someone gets everyone banned in a network, it is everyone's fault on not preventing it.

Now if you allow me, lol[/quote:2b6aa13f]
1- I am not Dark Cyborg
2,3,4- Put that in the rules then
5- this is false[/quote:2b6aa13f]

2,3,4 they are.
5 prove it.

[quote="d1234":q2nsoyqy][quote="troglyte":q2nsoyqy]My balls are clenched.

Also, hello Dark Cyborg. Yes, we ALL know this is your alt.[/quote:q2nsoyqy]
Actually, this is not an alt of Dark Cyborg’s[/quote:q2nsoyqy]
Okay Dark Cyborg.

[quote="Renji Asuka":hmt4ahad][quote="d1234":hmt4ahad][quote="troglyte":hmt4ahad]My balls are clenched.

Also, hello Dark Cyborg. Yes, we ALL know this is your alt.[/quote:hmt4ahad]
Actually, this is not an alt of Dark Cyborg’s[/quote:hmt4ahad]
Okay Dark Cyborg.[/quote:hmt4ahad]
Dude, he's not, Dark cyborg joined 2017, d1234 joined march 2020 and banned from rated was created on November 2020. The story just doesn't add up. But that does not delete the fact that he's spewing pure nonsense, he has a clear https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=2057491

Uhh, dude, usually when a person is punished on the site, is when the alt accounts are created. The fact they were created 3 years later takes nothing away from the fact he is most likely an alt.

d1234 joined before this even happened. If you check the now locked "Banned from rated", you can see that it was created in November 2020, he joined on march on 2020, about 7-8 months prior to the incident.

That does not mean he is not an alt.

[quote="DarkPhenix":36hqylsy]That does not mean he is not an alt.[/quote:36hqylsy]
Indeed, that name is very alt like, but not necessarily Dark Cyborg's alt

[quote="d1234":v4brg9d7][quote="greg503":v4brg9d7]If the admins were the oppressive tyrants you want to paint them as, wouldn't they attempt to suppress your posts?[/quote:v4brg9d7]
Does the originalthread being locked men any thing to you.[/quote:v4brg9d7]
No, because a sequel thread was made, you posted on it, and you have made this thread, they could have completely kept you from further posting, or deleted posts and threads that complain.

To Darkphenix.
How? Really like, will Dark Cyborg just make an Stan Account just to TRY getting his account unbanned? Even, Dark Cyborg and d1234 have a way different way to talk and it doesn't make sense, was he banned during march, then made the account but decided not to do a post about it, but 7-8 months later decided to make it anyway?

I really dont care

bruh momento

[quote="greg503":2ikxh9u0][quote="DarkPhenix":2ikxh9u0]That does not mean he is not an alt.[/quote:2ikxh9u0]
Indeed, that name is very alt like, but not necessarily Dark Cyborg's alt[/quote:2ikxh9u0]
Correct. I made this alt for testing pirposes

[quote="Lil Oldman":1lgzwq5e][quote="d1234":1lgzwq5e][quote="Lil Oldman":1lgzwq5e]
1- You are dark Cyborg, so you have been punished
1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.
2,3,4- Retroactiveness isnt just about the past problems, but to adapt, hence the use of it upon Dark Cyvorg.
5- If someone gets everyone banned in a network, it is everyone's fault on not preventing it.

Now if you allow me, lol[/quote:1lgzwq5e]
1- I am not Dark Cyborg
2,3,4- Put that in the rules then
5- this is false[/quote:1lgzwq5e]

2,3,4 they are.
5 prove it.[/quote:1lgzwq5e]
2,3,4- no
5- Do you not think it is wrong to punish someone for something they didn’t do?

[quote="d1234":3es034j9][quote="Lil Oldman":3es034j9][quote="d1234":3es034j9]
1- I am not Dark Cyborg
2,3,4- Put that in the rules then
5- this is false[/quote:3es034j9]

2,3,4 they are.
5 prove it.[/quote:3es034j9]
2,3,4- no
5- Do you not think it is wrong to punish someone for something they didn’t do?[/quote:3es034j9]
2,3,4- Rules state

Offenses are not limited to examples given in italics.

5- Rules state and no, I do not think it is wrong.

You are responsible for all activity performed on your account and/or network, even if other individuals break the rules using them.

these points have already been addressed.

you guys are just arguing in circles.

[quote="Lil Oldman":qf2lmqnt][quote="d1234":qf2lmqnt][quote="Lil Oldman":qf2lmqnt]

2,3,4 they are.
5 prove it.[/quote:qf2lmqnt]
2,3,4- no
5- Do you not think it is wrong to punish someone for something they didn’t do?[/quote:qf2lmqnt]
2,3,4- Rules state

Offenses are not limited to examples given in italics.

5- Rules state and no, I do not think it is wrong.

You are responsible for all activity performed on your account and/or network, even if other individuals break the rules using them.

[/quote:qf2lmqnt]
2,3,4- They, them are limited by the green
5- I think this rule is a problem, as I have stated because it is biased against poor and elderly people, not saving it doesn’t exist

me atm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=166&v=0SWSgdAENcs (like just those 3 seconds)
Anyway, what's the point now? They are not going to change it. You may not like it but I will just quote Youtuber Tom Scott

I am not saying that's how it should be, I am saying how it is.

Point being, they thought it would be ythe best for everyone or the great majority, so bam, punish and lots of places can ban a network for evading a punishment, mostly videogames or media like wikipedia. (it blocked all associated IP's with the church of scientology)

However the 6th problem on DB that is way worse than the Other 5 are the "True Trolls" like CrystalMusic, thecanadian/co/mrade, etc. Because these True Trolls are harder to Report for Abuse because they don't play Rated.

[quote="james123":3mgs87c9]However the 6th problem on DB that is way worse than the Other 5 are the "True Trolls" like CrystalMusic, thecanadian/co/mrade, etc. Because these True Trolls are harder to Report for Abuse because they don't play Rated.[/quote:3mgs87c9]
Not that hard to report it’s just harder to take action but if all a user does is make every player they come across have a miserable experience on the site then they don’t need to be here.

i mean i know this dude aint an alt and every time someone complains darkpheonix is with the "blah blah blah" bull instead of addressing the problem he says blah blah blah its an alt this is all he says plus nothing in the rules that states if someone does something another account linked to the computer is gonna be punished as well I mean the first account boosted everyone knows that but there's 0 proof that he was on the account that did the deed accept its just on his computer at least put it in the rules before enforcing it and the judge mistrust problem is real I personally only trust 3755 and most of the judges within the hundreds and other users don't trust them as well and I have seen cases of over punishing or what can be called it by most instead of going oh alt shut up either help understand and fix the problem or debunk it with real evidence not hey darkcyborg or shut up that's what I have to say

[quote="Genexwrecker":3pedc5y3][quote="james123":3pedc5y3]However the 6th problem on DB that is way worse than the Other 5 are the "True Trolls" like CrystalMusic, thecanadian/co/mrade, etc. Because these True Trolls are harder to Report for Abuse because they don't play Rated.[/quote:3pedc5y3]
Not that hard to report it’s just harder to take action but if all a user does is make every player they come across have a miserable experience on the site then they don’t need to be here.[/quote:3pedc5y3]
Oh come on! These guys are in Unrated and takes a lot of attempts to get them Frozen or Banned

[quote="Lil Oldman":35v6h1wy][quote="d1234":35v6h1wy][quote="Lil Oldman":35v6h1wy]
1- You are dark Cyborg, so you have been punished
1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.
2,3,4- Retroactiveness isnt just about the past problems, but to adapt, hence the use of it upon Dark Cyvorg.
5- If someone gets everyone banned in a network, it is everyone's fault on not preventing it.

Now if you allow me, lol[/quote:35v6h1wy]
1- I am not Dark Cyborg
2,3,4- Put that in the rules then
5- this is false[/quote:35v6h1wy]

2,3,4 they are.
5 prove it.[/quote:35v6h1wy]
2,3,4- They are to some degree but are being used differently
5- Why should someone be punished for something someone else did

Welcome back to another CM thr- oh wait

[quote="d1234":1k6ueud7]In several other forms I listed several things wrong with DB, here I will do a list of them all:

1. Trust
For this site to be successfull trust must exist between the judges and players, and because of the below that trust has been broken

2. Uncalled for punishment
To understand this, you must remember the point of punishment: to stop the problem from happening again. Punishment on this site then to be enforced ignoring this.

3. So-called rule-breaking
On this site things that are not on the rules are used in punishments

4. Over- punishment
Often times people are punished more than the written punishment

5. It’s byast against poor and elderly people
On avarage poorer people will live in apartments, and elderly will live in an old-folks home. In these places everyone uses the same internet, and in the rules it states: “anything that happens on your internet is your responsibility” and since they share inrpternet, that means that if one does something warranting a ban, everyone gets one.[/quote:1k6ueud7]

I agree with you on this issues, d1234. the judge aren't doing their job right at all. That why so many players are getting away with rule-breaking when dueling in rated and unrated room. Even the judges are ignored the problem when it is being report on here. This is why some people are stop playing dueling books and some people who heard of this websites don't waste their time playing it at all cause they know that it is filled with toxic players on here.

The rules are very poorly enforced as it is often the people who are not breaking the rules getting punished.

[quote="moonsamurai28":1co4bkgy][quote="d1234":1co4bkgy]In several other forms I listed several things wrong with DB, here I will do a list of them all:

1. Trust
For this site to be successfull trust must exist between the judges and players, and because of the below that trust has been broken

2. Uncalled for punishment
To understand this, you must remember the point of punishment: to stop the problem from happening again. Punishment on this site then to be enforced ignoring this.

3. So-called rule-breaking
On this site things that are not on the rules are used in punishments

4. Over- punishment
Often times people are punished more than the written punishment

5. It’s byast against poor and elderly people
On avarage poorer people will live in apartments, and elderly will live in an old-folks home. In these places everyone uses the same internet, and in the rules it states: “anything that happens on your internet is your responsibility” and since they share inrpternet, that means that if one does something warranting a ban, everyone gets one.[/quote:1co4bkgy]

I agree with you on this issues, d1234. the judge aren't doing their job right at all. That why so many players are getting away with rule-breaking when dueling in rated and unrated room. Even the judges are ignored the problem when it is being report on here. This is why some people are stop playing dueling books and some people who heard of this websites don't waste their time playing it at all cause they know that it is filled with toxic players on here.[/quote:1co4bkgy]

This kind of behavior is exactly why the alt d1234 became a laughing stock. He would necro-post old threads about people getting banned and claim they supported his dumbass narrative, all the while completely ignoring the context and nuances of each thread.

[quote="troglyte":qr1u2m13][quote="moonsamurai28":qr1u2m13][quote="d1234":qr1u2m13]In several other forms I listed several things wrong with DB, here I will do a list of them all:

1. Trust
For this site to be successfull trust must exist between the judges and players, and because of the below that trust has been broken

2. Uncalled for punishment
To understand this, you must remember the point of punishment: to stop the problem from happening again. Punishment on this site then to be enforced ignoring this.

3. So-called rule-breaking
On this site things that are not on the rules are used in punishments

4. Over- punishment
Often times people are punished more than the written punishment

5. It’s byast against poor and elderly people
On avarage poorer people will live in apartments, and elderly will live in an old-folks home. In these places everyone uses the same internet, and in the rules it states: “anything that happens on your internet is your responsibility” and since they share inrpternet, that means that if one does something warranting a ban, everyone gets one.[/quote:qr1u2m13]

I agree with you on this issues, d1234. the judge aren't doing their job right at all. That why so many players are getting away with rule-breaking when dueling in rated and unrated room. Even the judges are ignored the problem when it is being report on here. This is why some people are stop playing dueling books and some people who heard of this websites don't waste their time playing it at all cause they know that it is filled with toxic players on here.[/quote:qr1u2m13]

This kind of behavior is exactly why the alt d1234 became a laughing stock. He would necro-post old threads about people getting banned and claim they supported his dumbass narrative, all the while completely ignoring the context and nuances of each thread.[/quote:qr1u2m13]
I have read through all the threads, before I posted and understand the nuances.
Also I choose threads that cumulatively form my argument.
Lastly, I only “necro post” on unresolved threads.

[quote="d1234":mjek2qzv][quote="troglyte":mjek2qzv][quote="moonsamurai28":mjek2qzv]

I agree with you on this issues, d1234. the judge aren't doing their job right at all. That why so many players are getting away with rule-breaking when dueling in rated and unrated room. Even the judges are ignored the problem when it is being report on here. This is why some people are stop playing dueling books and some people who heard of this websites don't waste their time playing it at all cause they know that it is filled with toxic players on here.[/quote:mjek2qzv]

This kind of behavior is exactly why the alt d1234 became a laughing stock. He would necro-post old threads about people getting banned and claim they supported his dumbass narrative, all the while completely ignoring the context and nuances of each thread.[/quote:mjek2qzv]
I have read through all the threads, before I posted and understand the nuances.
Also I choose threads that cumulatively form my argument.
Lastly, I only “necro post” on unresolved threads.[/quote:mjek2qzv]

I'm sure you do, Dark Cyborg.

[quote="d1234":2ici2pfx]The rules are very poorly enforced as it is often the people who are not breaking the rules getting punished.[/quote:2ici2pfx]
This seems like a massive cap.

Other than that we enforce the rules to the best of our ability and of course we aren't Nazis about it but we know when to clearly punish someone. Trust? I don't think trust will be there for those who mess up and get frozen as people will always think they are the victim no matter what. Honestly it's not hard not to be frozen.

Yes, this is an alt but not for Dark Cyborg.
This has already been stated.
This is an alt for d123, for goodness sake!!

[quote="Runzy":36e9zt90][quote="d1234":36e9zt90]The rules are very poorly enforced as it is often the people who are not breaking the rules getting punished.[/quote:36e9zt90]
This seems like a massive cap.

Other than that we enforce the rules to the best of our ability and of course we aren't Nazis about it but we know when to clearly punish someone. Trust? I don't think trust will be there for those who mess up and get frozen as people will always think they are the victim no matter what. Honestly it's not hard not to be frozen.[/quote:36e9zt90]
If that is the best of your capabilities, how can your excuse for not having more judges be we need skilled judges.

[quote="d1234":npwwo8z2][quote="Runzy":npwwo8z2][quote="d1234":npwwo8z2]The rules are very poorly enforced as it is often the people who are not breaking the rules getting punished.[/quote:npwwo8z2]
This seems like a massive cap.

Other than that we enforce the rules to the best of our ability and of course we aren't Nazis about it but we know when to clearly punish someone. Trust? I don't think trust will be there for those who mess up and get frozen as people will always think they are the victim no matter what. Honestly it's not hard not to be frozen.[/quote:npwwo8z2]
If that is the best of your capabilities, how can your excuse for not having more judges be we need skilled judges.[/quote:npwwo8z2]
Need skilled judges.
Need more judges.
Unless we start doing a DB judge academy or whatever then we can only have 1 of these, so choose

[quote="greg503":pppjpal6][quote="d1234":pppjpal6][quote="Runzy":pppjpal6]
This seems like a massive cap.

Other than that we enforce the rules to the best of our ability and of course we aren't Nazis about it but we know when to clearly punish someone. Trust? I don't think trust will be there for those who mess up and get frozen as people will always think they are the victim no matter what. Honestly it's not hard not to be frozen.[/quote:pppjpal6]
If that is the best of your capabilities, how can your excuse for not having more judges be we need skilled judges.[/quote:pppjpal6]
Need skilled judges.
Need more judges.
Unless we start doing a DB judge academy or whatever then we can only have 1 of these, so choose[/quote:pppjpal6]
I am saying that there only argument for net hiring more judges is skill so if that is their best then they are doing neither.
At least give one.