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Dark Cyborg: I got set to beginner for boosting. And I'm sorry for what I did. But it wasn't me. It was my brother who took my controller. And I had a blindfold on. And I wasn't even trying to boost, I just did it as a joke. Plus, I was negative boosting, so it shouldn't count. Also, my brother totally deserved it but not me, because I was the one sandbagging. And I totally wasn't trying to exploit the rated pool, even though I clearly did.

So can I be unbanned now?

The Forum: no

I mean, the rules only state punishing positive boosting, but it should be implied that thats againts the rules.

Note how in the original post, he says "I understand the repercussions involving that account" (referring to the offending account)
This is an admission of guilt. He knows. He's known this whole time. He only pivoted to the negative boosting argument after people didn't immediately side with him.

I doesn’t mater what he means to do or how he does it. What matters is he is right.

Also, he said he understood the repercussions involving his friend’s account.

[quote="d1234":3qkeh7eu]Also, he said he understood the repercussions involving his friend’s account.[/quote:3qkeh7eu]
Precisely.

He knows Negative Boosting is bad, and he is fine with the account being banned. And he knows he is responsible for it.

And if you really care about minor technicalities, please refer to "Offenses are not limited to examples given in italics."

Yes, but they are limited by the non-italicized green phrase which specifically states “gain”

[quote="troglyte":q34f92ah][quote="d1234":q34f92ah]Also, he said he understood the repercussions involving his friend’s account.[/quote:q34f92ah]
Precisely.

He knows Negative Boosting is bad, and he is fine with the account being banned. And he knows he is responsible for it.

And if you really care about minor technicalities, please refer to "Offenses are not limited to examples given in italics."[/quote:q34f92ah]

How much must I say it. He knew what was happening with his FRIEND was wrong. And, people make mistakes 1 mistake doesn’t justify a ban from rated at all, if it isn’t even in the rules.

[quote="d1234":8kumuprx][quote="troglyte":8kumuprx][quote="d1234":8kumuprx]Also, he said he understood the repercussions involving his friend’s account.[/quote:8kumuprx]
Precisely.

He knows Negative Boosting is bad, and he is fine with the account being banned. And he knows he is responsible for it.

And if you really care about minor technicalities, please refer to "Offenses are not limited to examples given in italics."[/quote:8kumuprx]

How much must I say it. He knew what was happening with his FRIEND was wrong. And, people make mistakes 1 mistake doesn’t justify a ban from rated at all, if it isn’t even in the rules.[/quote:8kumuprx]
By joining the site, he agreed to the rules. And FYI any Admin can ban anyone for any reason and for how long. Same with every other service, you hold 0 power in the matter.

I think the fact he's getting punished isn't necessarily the issue to be honest. If someone is breaking the rules non-maliciously surely there should be some leeway in stead of giving him the second worst punishment on the website. Looking at real life as an example manslaughter and murder are both actions that result in the death of someone but the manslaughter charge has the smaller punishment. Why? Because it was non-intentional and surely the same thing should apply in his case

Well, perma-beginner is one step below perma-ban

I said second worst

There are less severe punishments on 2nd chances on less severe offences.
And he technically didn’t break the rules.

[quote="d1234":1pfxnh3k]There are less severe punishments on 2nd chances on less severe offences.
And he technically didn’t break the rules.[/quote:1pfxnh3k]
He did break the rules, it isn't up for debate.

In his original post they understands that rules WERE broken. What is up for debate there is their punishment.

Not that it's super relevant, but I can't help but notice that he keeps flipping between referring to "his friend's account" and then making statements such as "I only boosted as a joke" or "I had no intention of boosting for personal gain."

This makes me suspicious that:
1. There is no "friend." It's just him, and his alt account.
2. He is familiar with the concept of boosting, and had full knowledge that what he was doing may not be fully legitimate.

But this is just speculation, simply based on what has been posted up to this point.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3gcvwh5x][quote="d1234":3gcvwh5x]There are less severe punishments on 2nd chances on less severe offences.
And he technically didn’t break the rules.[/quote:3gcvwh5x]
He did break the rules, it isn't up for debate.[/quote:3gcvwh5x]
It definitely is not against the rules. Boosting is only positive.

[quote="greg503":2k4qci5x]In his original post they understands that rules WERE broken. What is up for debate there is their punishment.[/quote:2k4qci5x]
Not on that account.
That is not what the rules say.

[quote="d1234":3vsahvki][quote="Renji Asuka":3vsahvki][quote="d1234":3vsahvki]There are less severe punishments on 2nd chances on less severe offences.
And he technically didn’t break the rules.[/quote:3vsahvki]
He did break the rules, it isn't up for debate.[/quote:3vsahvki]
It definitely is not against the rules. Boosting is only positive.[/quote:3vsahvki]
Still against the rules, stop shilling.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1sd8jb05][quote="d1234":1sd8jb05][quote="Renji Asuka":1sd8jb05]
He did break the rules, it isn't up for debate.[/quote:1sd8jb05]
It definitely is not against the rules. Boosting is only positive.[/quote:1sd8jb05]
Still against the rules, stop shilling.[/quote:1sd8jb05]
It isn’t.

[quote="d1234":1bm0q4dg][quote="Renji Asuka":1bm0q4dg][quote="d1234":1bm0q4dg]
It definitely is not against the rules. Boosting is only positive.[/quote:1bm0q4dg]
Still against the rules, stop shilling.[/quote:1bm0q4dg]
It isn’t.[/quote:1bm0q4dg]
Wrong.

[quote="d1234":2jw9ddro][quote="Renji Asuka":2jw9ddro][quote="d1234":2jw9ddro]
It definitely is not against the rules. Boosting is only positive.[/quote:2jw9ddro]
Still against the rules, stop shilling.[/quote:2jw9ddro]
It isn’t.[/quote:2jw9ddro]

[quote="kijani":2jw9ddro]I think the fact he's getting punished isn't necessarily the issue to be honest. If someone is breaking the rules non-maliciously surely there should be some leeway in stead of giving him the second worst punishment on the website. Looking at real life as an example manslaughter and murder are both actions that result in the death of someone but the manslaughter charge has the smaller punishment. Why? Because it was non-intentional and surely the same thing should apply in his case[/quote:2jw9ddro]

[quote="Lil Oldman":2jw9ddro]I mean, the rules only state punishing positive boosting, but it should be implied that thats againts the rules.[/quote:2jw9ddro]

The rules say nothing about whether or not the boosting has to be "positive" or "negative". It simply says you can't boost.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2n7ubuu1][quote="d1234":2n7ubuu1][quote="Renji Asuka":2n7ubuu1]
Still against the rules, stop shilling.[/quote:2n7ubuu1]
It isn’t.[/quote:2n7ubuu1]
Wrong.[/quote:2n7ubuu1]
It isn’t against the rules.
The rules say both ‘gain’ and ‘using’.
He was not gaining or using. He was being used.

[quote="Christen57":1ts4tlxy][quote="d1234":1ts4tlxy][quote="Renji Asuka":1ts4tlxy]
Still against the rules, stop shilling.[/quote:1ts4tlxy]
It isn’t.[/quote:1ts4tlxy]

[quote="kijani":1ts4tlxy]I think the fact he's getting punished isn't necessarily the issue to be honest. If someone is breaking the rules non-maliciously surely there should be some leeway in stead of giving him the second worst punishment on the website. Looking at real life as an example manslaughter and murder are both actions that result in the death of someone but the manslaughter charge has the smaller punishment. Why? Because it was non-intentional and surely the same thing should apply in his case[/quote:1ts4tlxy]

[quote="Lil Oldman":1ts4tlxy]I mean, the rules only state punishing positive boosting, but it should be implied that thats againts the rules.[/quote:1ts4tlxy]

The rules say nothing about whether or not the boosting has to be "positive" or "negative". It simply says you can't boost.[/quote:1ts4tlxy]
The word ‘boost’ means positive. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boost?s=t

[quote="d1234":3i249mzn][quote="Renji Asuka":3i249mzn][quote="d1234":3i249mzn]
It isn’t.[/quote:3i249mzn]
Wrong.[/quote:3i249mzn]
It isn’t against the rules.
The rules say both ‘gain’ and ‘using’.
He was not gaining or using. He was being used.[/quote:3i249mzn]
Wrong.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3jfztscv][quote="d1234":3jfztscv][quote="Renji Asuka":3jfztscv]
Wrong.[/quote:3jfztscv]
It isn’t against the rules.
The rules say both ‘gain’ and ‘using’.
He was not gaining or using. He was being used.[/quote:3jfztscv]
Wrong.[/quote:3jfztscv]
Wrong

[quote="d1234":2is9iuuz][quote="Renji Asuka":2is9iuuz][quote="d1234":2is9iuuz]
It isn’t against the rules.
The rules say both ‘gain’ and ‘using’.
He was not gaining or using. He was being used.[/quote:2is9iuuz]
Wrong.[/quote:2is9iuuz]
Wrong[/quote:2is9iuuz]
Glad we can agree that you're wrong.

[quote="Renji Asuka":18k0cr6u][quote="d1234":18k0cr6u][quote="Renji Asuka":18k0cr6u]
Wrong.[/quote:18k0cr6u]
Wrong[/quote:18k0cr6u]
Glad we can agree that you're wrong.[/quote:18k0cr6u]
I was saying that the statement about me being wrong was wrong.
Because I am not wrong.

[quote="d1234":2noxw0cr][quote="Renji Asuka":2noxw0cr][quote="d1234":2noxw0cr]
Wrong[/quote:2noxw0cr]
Glad we can agree that you're wrong.[/quote:2noxw0cr]
I was saying that the statement about me being wrong was wrong.
Because I am not wrong.[/quote:2noxw0cr]
But you are, end of story.

We decide what falls under which infraction the rules are not limited to what is listed. Don’t want to get penalized don’t do something sketchy.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1szmgv2j][quote="d1234":1szmgv2j][quote="Renji Asuka":1szmgv2j]
Glad we can agree that you're wrong.[/quote:1szmgv2j]
I was saying that the statement about me being wrong was wrong.
Because I am not wrong.[/quote:1szmgv2j]
But you are, end of story.[/quote:1szmgv2j]
There will be no “end of story” until it changes.

[quote="Genexwrecker":9ew52g9q]We decide what falls under which infraction the rules are not limited to what is listed. Don’t want to get penalized don’t do something sketchy.[/quote:9ew52g9q]
There is nothing in the entire rule page that states anything that could me considered negative boosting.
Also, you are missing a few commas.

My final post on this subject has been posted at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12364

[quote="d1234":5pwnofhy][quote="Genexwrecker":5pwnofhy]We decide what falls under which infraction the rules are not limited to what is listed. Don’t want to get penalized don’t do something sketchy.[/quote:5pwnofhy]
There is nothing in the entire rule page that states anything that could me considered negative boosting.
Also, you are missing a few commas.[/quote:5pwnofhy]
Doesn't matter what you think. The admins decide NOT YOU.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1ua56hv2][quote="d1234":1ua56hv2][quote="Genexwrecker":1ua56hv2]We decide what falls under which infraction the rules are not limited to what is listed. Don’t want to get penalized don’t do something sketchy.[/quote:1ua56hv2]
There is nothing in the entire rule page that states anything that could me considered negative boosting.
Also, you are missing a few commas.[/quote:1ua56hv2]
Doesn't matter what you think. The admins decide NOT YOU.[/quote:1ua56hv2]
The admins are wrong.

This reminds me of Crimson7reaper's freeze where he basically admitted to harassing people but tried to weasel his way out of punishment due to his infraction not being specifically stated in the rules.

[quote="troglyte":3o3b6qv8]This reminds me of Crimson7reaper's freeze where he basically admitted to harassing people but tried to weasel his way out of punishment due to his infraction not being specifically stated in the rules.[/quote:3o3b6qv8]
Crimson7reaper did not break the rules. I do believe he broke the law, yes, but not the dueling book rules.
And yes I see quite a few similarities, but there will be a different outcome, and that will be what sets them apart.

Well, the difference here is that Crimson7reaper was upfront and honest about his perspective and context to a point.
The same can't be said for you and Dark Cyborg.

[quote="troglyte":38id44fh]Well, the difference here is that Crimson7reaper was upfront and honest about his perspective and context to a point.
The same can't be said for you and Dark Cyborg.[/quote:38id44fh]
I have been honest this whole time. You are wrong. Dark Cyborg should be removed from beginner.

.

[quote="d1234":1vfjt33f].[/quote:1vfjt33f]
What did I tell you?

d1234 is just a troll.

[quote="troglyte":2hfzsfgp][quote="d1234":2hfzsfgp].[/quote:2hfzsfgp]
What did I tell you?

d1234 i just a troll.[/quote:2hfzsfgp]
I was bring this page to the top , as I thought was necessary. I have seen other feeds go away from this and am preventing that.

[quote="troglyte":3l7zv1kb][quote="d1234":3l7zv1kb].[/quote:3l7zv1kb]
What did I tell you?

d1234 is just a troll.[/quote:3l7zv1kb]
Also, I can’t understand how a human can be a nonexistent mythical creature.

I heard your opinion, and still disagree.
You all seem to be forgetting what punishment is for; to stop them from doing it again.
It is clear that Dark Cyborg will not let his friend boost, so there is no need for a permanent punishment.

[quote="d1234":13n2ofx9]I heard your opinion, and still disagree.
You all seem to be forgetting what punishment is for; to stop them from doing it again.
It is clear that Dark Cyborg will not let his friend boost, so there is no need for a permanent punishment.[/quote:13n2ofx9]

The permanent punishment is what ensures that this boosting won't be done again.

A red-named judge already explained this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=51608#p51608

Also, a purple-named judge said they would have been forgiven for this behavior if they acted better, but they blew that chance by continuing to whine about this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=49769#p49769

https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=50072#p50072

The moral of this story is simple. Do not let anyone else access duelingbook using your account or network. If someone has to access duelingbook using your network, either you or them should use a proxy or Virtual Private Network (VPN) so at least you aren't tied to the same Internet Protocol (IP) Address, and that any rule-breaking they engage in can't be linked back to you.

I do not recommend that you attempt to continue these discussions, as the other thread was already locked by said red-named judge. Trying to revive these discussions after the thread was already locked can be interpreted as spamming, which is against rule 4.

[quote="Christen57":35t430os][quote="d1234":35t430os]I heard your opinion, and still disagree.
You all seem to be forgetting what punishment is for; to stop them from doing it again.
It is clear that Dark Cyborg will not let his friend boost, so there is no need for a permanent punishment.[/quote:35t430os]

The permanent punishment is what ensures that this boosting won't be done again.

A red-named judge already explained this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=51608#p51608this thread is in “SPAM” paradise let him Rant here all he wants

Also, a purple-named judge said they would have been forgiven for this behavior if they acted better, but they blew that chance by continuing to whine about this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=49769#p49769

https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=50072#p50072

The moral of this story is simple. Do not let anyone else access duelingbook using your account or network. If someone has to access duelingbook using your network, either you or them should use a proxy or Virtual Private Network (VPN) so at least you aren't tied to the same Internet Protocol (IP) Address, and that any rule-breaking they engage in can't be linked back to you.

I do not recommend that you attempt to continue these discussions, as the other thread was already locked by said red-named judge. Trying to revive these discussions after the thread was already locked can be interpreted as spamming, which is against rule 4.

[/quote:35t430os]this thread is in “SPAM” paradise let him rant here all he wants it doesn’t matter

[quote="Christen57":32d4k67u][quote="d1234":32d4k67u]I heard your opinion, and still disagree.
You all seem to be forgetting what punishment is for; to stop them from doing it again.
It is clear that Dark Cyborg will not let his friend boost, so there is no need for a permanent punishment.[/quote:32d4k67u]

The permanent punishment is what ensures that this boosting won't be done again.

A red-named judge already explained this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=51608#p51608

Also, a purple-named judge said they would have been forgiven for this behavior if they acted better, but they blew that chance by continuing to whine about this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=49769#p49769

https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=50072#p50072

The moral of this story is simple. Do not let anyone else access duelingbook using your account or network. If someone has to access duelingbook using your network, either you or them should use a proxy or Virtual Private Network (VPN) so at least you aren't tied to the same Internet Protocol (IP) Address, and that any rule-breaking they engage in can't be linked back to you.

I do not recommend that you attempt to continue these discussions, as the other thread was already locked by said red-named judge. Trying to revive these discussions after the thread was already locked can be interpreted as spamming, which is against rule 4.

[/quote:32d4k67u]
Logic can ensure that boosting won’t happen, so a punishment is not needed.
And what your moral implies is, don’t trust anyone, and don’t let your friend play Dueling book at your house

[quote="Christen57":2bpscgmc][quote="d1234":2bpscgmc]
A red-named judge already explained this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=51608#p51608
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And I believe them to be incorrect

unfortunately while the game is in the hands of these guys it will only get worse ... I hope they resume the game before it ends forever

[quote="KONAMl":2206hlia]unfortunately while the game is in the hands of these guys it will only get worse ... I hope they resume the game before it ends forever[/quote:2206hlia]
And once it gets bad enough... no more dueling book. Quite a shame as I like the program

lol

[quote="Lil Oldman":3p90z9r3]lol[/quote:3p90z9r3]
Why

Remove Dark Cyborg from beginner

lol

[quote="Lil Oldman":3ohrs7n6]lol[/quote:3ohrs7n6]
lol

[quote="troglyte":2gzrxrn3][quote="Lil Oldman":2gzrxrn3]lol[/quote:2gzrxrn3]
lol[/quote:2gzrxrn3]
WHY

Why

Remove Dark Cyborg from beginer

lol

Player1 can you please lock this thread

[quote="DarkPhenix":2hoxvxt1]Player1 can you please lock this thread[/quote:2hoxvxt1]
Honestly I dont think he will. This is the part of the forum where we "Spam" and blocking this thread does nothing really it just moves the problem elsewhere.

[quote="d1234":16ddb3uz][quote="Christen57":16ddb3uz][quote="d1234":16ddb3uz]I heard your opinion, and still disagree.
You all seem to be forgetting what punishment is for; to stop them from doing it again.
It is clear that Dark Cyborg will not let his friend boost, so there is no need for a permanent punishment.[/quote:16ddb3uz]

The permanent punishment is what ensures that this boosting won't be done again.

A red-named judge already explained this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=51608#p51608

Also, a purple-named judge said they would have been forgiven for this behavior if they acted better, but they blew that chance by continuing to whine about this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=49769#p49769

https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=50072#p50072

The moral of this story is simple. Do not let anyone else access duelingbook using your account or network. If someone has to access duelingbook using your network, either you or them should use a proxy or Virtual Private Network (VPN) so at least you aren't tied to the same Internet Protocol (IP) Address, and that any rule-breaking they engage in can't be linked back to you.

I do not recommend that you attempt to continue these discussions, as the other thread was already locked by said red-named judge. Trying to revive these discussions after the thread was already locked can be interpreted as spamming, which is against rule 4.

[/quote:16ddb3uz]
Logic can ensure that boosting won’t happen, so a punishment is not needed.
And what your moral implies is, don’t trust anyone, and don’t let your friend play Dueling book at your house[/quote:16ddb3uz]

That's my moral because as we've seen, Dark Cyborg allowed a "friend" of his to play dueling book on his network, and said friend broke the rules on it.

A permanent punishment probably woudn't have been needed had Dark Cyborg did what the purple-named judge said and acted better and shown that he deserves a second chance, but like said purple-named judge said, Dark Cyborg blew it.

[quote="Christen57":jle0h961][quote="d1234":jle0h961][quote="Christen57":jle0h961]

The permanent punishment is what ensures that this boosting won't be done again.

A red-named judge already explained this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=51608#p51608

Also, a purple-named judge said they would have been forgiven for this behavior if they acted better, but they blew that chance by continuing to whine about this. https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=49769#p49769

https://forum.duelingbook.com/viewtopic.php?p=50072#p50072

The moral of this story is simple. Do not let anyone else access duelingbook using your account or network. If someone has to access duelingbook using your network, either you or them should use a proxy or Virtual Private Network (VPN) so at least you aren't tied to the same Internet Protocol (IP) Address, and that any rule-breaking they engage in can't be linked back to you.

I do not recommend that you attempt to continue these discussions, as the other thread was already locked by said red-named judge. Trying to revive these discussions after the thread was already locked can be interpreted as spamming, which is against rule 4.

[/quote:jle0h961]
Logic can ensure that boosting won’t happen, so a punishment is not needed.
And what your moral implies is, don’t trust anyone, and don’t let your friend play Dueling book at your house[/quote:jle0h961]

That's my moral because as we've seen, Dark Cyborg allowed a "friend" of his to play dueling book on his network, and said friend broke the rules on it.

A permanent punishment probably woudn't have been needed had Dark Cyborg did what the purple-named judge said and acted better and shown that he deserves a second chance, but like said purple-named judge said, Dark Cyborg blew it.[/quote:jle0h961]
The second chance the purple judge meant was the ability to play in unrated.

Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.

[quote="d1234":3nw9bq4w]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:3nw9bq4w]
Unfortunate

[quote="d1234":2kv8203g][quote="Christen57":2kv8203g][quote="d1234":2kv8203g]
Logic can ensure that boosting won’t happen, so a punishment is not needed.
And what your moral implies is, don’t trust anyone, and don’t let your friend play Dueling book at your house[/quote:2kv8203g]

That's my moral because as we've seen, Dark Cyborg allowed a "friend" of his to play dueling book on his network, and said friend broke the rules on it.

A permanent punishment probably woudn't have been needed had Dark Cyborg did what the purple-named judge said and acted better and shown that he deserves a second chance, but like said purple-named judge said, Dark Cyborg blew it.[/quote:2kv8203g]
The second chance the purple judge meant was the ability to play in unrated.[/quote:2kv8203g]
lol

purple judge
what will he do next

[quote="d1234":10dxd5l0]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:10dxd5l0]
Stop playing the what if games. In the end you aren't changing jack shit, your posts are useless. There is literally NOTHING you can do regarding this matter.

[quote="Amr Khalid":2y0rtgd0]I wouldn't say there's nothing darkcyborg could do.


He had the chance to behave at one point multiple times and he didn't take it.


Plus, "what if" games are actually important so you don't miss the timing[/quote:2y0rtgd0]
Don't be that guy.

[quote="d1234":18osbfgh]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:18osbfgh]

If you think they're going to go on duelingbook and break rules, simply remind them not to do so. If they ignore your request and you get in trouble for their actions, continue to behave and be mature so hopefully the judges give you another chance, which Dark Cyborg didn't do.

[quote="DarkPhenix":15itjvfz]Player1 can you please lock this thread[/quote:15itjvfz]
The tag on spam paradise says “ here you can talk about WHATEVER you want”

[quote="Renji Asuka":1n3bxxwy][quote="d1234":1n3bxxwy]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:1n3bxxwy]
Stop playing the what if games. In the end you aren't changing jack shit, your posts are useless. There is literally NOTHING you can do regarding this matter.[/quote:1n3bxxwy]
After I put my grand plan into action you will disagree.

[quote="Amr Khalid":2y8sp69r]I wouldn't say there's nothing darkcyborg could do.


He had the chance to behave at one point multiple times and he didn't take it.


Plus, "what if" games are actually important so you don't miss the timing[/quote:2y8sp69r]
All the ‘what if games’ are part of the plan

Lol

[quote="Amr Khalid":23ugcrsk]Lol[/quote:23ugcrsk]
WHY

[quote="d1234":1kf1akeo][quote="Renji Asuka":1kf1akeo][quote="d1234":1kf1akeo]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:1kf1akeo]
Stop playing the what if games. In the end you aren't changing jack shit, your posts are useless. There is literally NOTHING you can do regarding this matter.[/quote:1kf1akeo]
After I put my grand plan into action you will disagree.[/quote:1kf1akeo]
ooooooooooh spooooky!

I actually have a grand plan

[quote="Lil Oldman":1hf1big6][quote="d1234":1hf1big6][quote="Renji Asuka":1hf1big6]
Stop playing the what if games. In the end you aren't changing jack shit, your posts are useless. There is literally NOTHING you can do regarding this matter.[/quote:1hf1big6]
After I put my grand plan into action you will disagree.[/quote:1hf1big6]
ooooooooooh spooooky! [/quote:1hf1big6]
Watchout bro he's gonna show us his cookie clicker collection

[quote="Genexwrecker":1uspkb97][quote="d1234":1uspkb97]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:1uspkb97]
Unfortunate[/quote:1uspkb97]
ANOTHER problem needing to be addressed

[quote="d1234":31a0oa31][quote="Genexwrecker":31a0oa31][quote="d1234":31a0oa31]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:31a0oa31]
Unfortunate[/quote:31a0oa31]
ANOTHER problem needing to be addressed[/quote:31a0oa31]
Lol

[quote="Lil Oldman":e2rmqt5q][quote="d1234":e2rmqt5q][quote="Genexwrecker":e2rmqt5q]
Unfortunate[/quote:e2rmqt5q]
ANOTHER problem needing to be addressed[/quote:e2rmqt5q]
Lol[/quote:e2rmqt5q]
I am being serious. It is a problem

[quote="d1234":2ip9uvzj][quote="Lil Oldman":2ip9uvzj][quote="d1234":2ip9uvzj]
ANOTHER problem needing to be addressed[/quote:2ip9uvzj]
Lol[/quote:2ip9uvzj]
I am being serious. It is a problem[/quote:2ip9uvzj]
Lol

[quote="d1234":1yhojak2][quote="Genexwrecker":1yhojak2][quote="d1234":1yhojak2]Also on the someone else using your internet note, what if you live in a apartment where everyone uses the same internet.[/quote:1yhojak2]
Unfortunate[/quote:1yhojak2]
ANOTHER problem needing to be addressed[/quote:1yhojak2]
You don’t seem to understand that this makes duelingbook byast against poor and elderly people, as it is mostly them who live in those types of buildings

Also, I would like to mention an older post by Dark Cyborg, saying “ so it is okay to ignore the framework this site is built on”
The only response this generated was “so the framework is cheating apparently”
However, I think I understand what he meant, the feramework is trust. Between the Judges and players. I no longer trust that judges will properly resolve my problem, and hence, I stopped playing DB.

Lo fucking l

[quote="Lil Oldman":6se1jwt9]Lo fucking l[/quote:6se1jwt9]
You are ignoring so much unfair stuff

How unfair is being barred from rated really?

[quote="greg503":13pax4cg]How unfair is being barred from rated really?[/quote:13pax4cg]
It is not just about this one instance. You are so many simialsr situations like this.
It has been more than 5 years that the admins have been being oppresssive tyran viewtopic.php?f=21&t=13300
This explains my point

It is hard to imagine a thread can be made about a specific user in which what he did, in this ‘boosting’ himself by tanking his score, and what has been already thoroughly discussed on its official thread has not ended but is instead being brought up again here. This itself in my eye’s verges on a form of harassment in that you are demeaning a player by publicly bringing his situation into the limelight with what cannot even be assumed to be sarcasm. This issue with Dark Cyborg’s ‘boosting’ could have been solved more simply with a lenient punishment and a warning that any further occurrence of this kind would result in a ban or suspension of his account.

Let us be reasonable how often do you believe ‘boosting’ by tanking your own score to not promote a select group of individuals or an individual occurs. Harassment itself is against the rules and even that has an illusory and subjective scale of being enforced and interpreted, there is not even a clear distinction as to what harassment constitutes since its base definition is solely dependent on a person’s state of mind and their willingness to be offended and to speak risks offense.

This issue with Dark Cyborg is based on the original thread by him and many of the responses levied to him by various users seems to just indicate an unwillingness to even consider that what he did is petty and being punished severely for what could just be ‘boosting’ indiscriminately, not to mention many of the remarks are basically of no actual aide to either party and contribute to what they decide to call spam by ‘spamming’ comments such as, “How is this thread still going on”. If I as a racecar driver pulled over and allowed everyone to pass me, thereby boosting, one might rightfully think a person is tanking and ruining the integrity of the sport, but we are on Dueling Book. It is understandable to wish to uphold your rules but how often do you see someone pull over and allow everyone else an indiscriminate advantage? Not blatantly as he did either if you truly believe he did this to ‘boost’ others. But would it not be more fair and even simpler to give him another chance and if anything along this line occurred again that you bring down the hammer?

This seems like an anomaly and whether you think he is lying about his story, whether you think he is completely wrong for ‘boosting’ negatively indiscriminately, whether it is against the rules is completely up to the moderators/admins/higherups but the actual punishment for the crime? If needs be reset his wins, losses, and exp but I urge you to reconsider this as a poor decision or stupid and to just watch him if needs be since it is not hard to do. The punishment just is not befitting of the crime no matter how you slice it, if it were the other way around and users were found to be boosting him or you had found evidence of him boosting a select group this would have more merit to it. Penalization is fine but the scale is bordering asinine.

[quote="Bloodclown":230z1kh7]It is hard to imagine a thread can be made about a specific user in which what he did, in this ‘boosting’ himself by tanking his score, and what has been already thoroughly discussed on its official thread has not ended but is instead being brought up again here. This itself in my eye’s verges on a form of harassment in that you are demeaning a player by publicly bringing his situation into the limelight with what cannot even be assumed to be sarcasm. This issue with Dark Cyborg’s ‘boosting’ could have been solved more simply with a lenient punishment and a warning that any further occurrence of this kind would result in a ban or suspension of his account.

Let us be reasonable how often do you believe ‘boosting’ by tanking your own score to not promote a select group of individuals or an individual occurs. Harassment itself is against the rules and even that has an illusory and subjective scale of being enforced and interpreted, there is not even a clear distinction as to what harassment constitutes since its base definition is solely dependent on a person’s state of mind and their willingness to be offended and to speak risks offense.

This issue with Dark Cyborg is based on the original thread by him and many of the responses levied to him by various users seems to just indicate an unwillingness to even consider that what he did is petty and being punished severely for what could just be ‘boosting’ indiscriminately, not to mention many of the remarks are basically of no actual aide to either party and contribute to what they decide to call spam by ‘spamming’ comments such as, “How is this thread still going on”. If I as a racecar driver pulled over and allowed everyone to pass me, thereby boosting, one might rightfully think a person is tanking and ruining the integrity of the sport, but we are on Dueling Book. It is understandable to wish to uphold your rules but how often do you see someone pull over and allow everyone else an indiscriminate advantage? Not blatantly as he did either if you truly believe he did this to ‘boost’ others. But would it not be more fair and even simpler to give him another chance and if anything along this line occurred again that you bring down the hammer?

This seems like an anomaly and whether you think he is lying about his story, whether you think he is completely wrong for ‘boosting’ negatively indiscriminately, whether it is against the rules is completely up to the moderators/admins/higherups but the actual punishment for the crime? If needs be reset his wins, losses, and exp but I urge you to reconsider this as a poor decision or stupid and to just watch him if needs be since it is not hard to do. The punishment just is not befitting of the crime no matter how you slice it, if it were the other way around and users were found to be boosting him or you had found evidence of him boosting a select group this would have more merit to it. Penalization is fine but the scale is bordering asinine.[/quote:230z1kh7]

The moderators tought it was the best, applying the idea that this isnt acceptable in anyway, shape or form, but d1234 does not give up on saying that he was wrongfully punished.

This kind of things are listed in the the rules. The argument that they weren't specified is so weak. You can say that only positive boosting is punishable, but in reality, the mods have the final word and they decide if that enters into that category.

Ex post facto is the concept of, even after the events, if the judges think so, the punish can be harsher or lighter.

Most of us are just responding to him about why we think he is wrong. This entire drama just surged because one person is just really persistent. This isn't about Dark Cyborg, this thread started as a meme, but d1234 and others (including myself) started to discuss that here when the original thread was locked.

Even if the mods and the entire Anti-Negative Boosting is wrong, it does not delete a main factor. I have read somewhere that when you are driving, even if the truck driver is in the wrong, you should let him think he is, so you do not get crushed.

Finally, wow, this may be like crazy theory, but isn't it crazy that you are taking a more positive regarding Dark Cyborg, but him (alongside with me) is the only one who has seen your profile, and that this is your only post? I don't know, but you really are something special Dark Cyborg.

[quote="Lil Oldman":qcoe9hjf][quote="Bloodclown":qcoe9hjf]It is hard to imagine a thread can be made about a specific user in which what he did, in this ‘boosting’ himself by tanking his score, and what has been already thoroughly discussed on its official thread has not ended but is instead being brought up again here. This itself in my eye’s verges on a form of harassment in that you are demeaning a player by publicly bringing his situation into the limelight with what cannot even be assumed to be sarcasm. This issue with Dark Cyborg’s ‘boosting’ could have been solved more simply with a lenient punishment and a warning that any further occurrence of this kind would result in a ban or suspension of his account.

Let us be reasonable how often do you believe ‘boosting’ by tanking your own score to not promote a select group of individuals or an individual occurs. Harassment itself is against the rules and even that has an illusory and subjective scale of being enforced and interpreted, there is not even a clear distinction as to what harassment constitutes since its base definition is solely dependent on a person’s state of mind and their willingness to be offended and to speak risks offense.

This issue with Dark Cyborg is based on the original thread by him and many of the responses levied to him by various users seems to just indicate an unwillingness to even consider that what he did is petty and being punished severely for what could just be ‘boosting’ indiscriminately, not to mention many of the remarks are basically of no actual aide to either party and contribute to what they decide to call spam by ‘spamming’ comments such as, “How is this thread still going on”. If I as a racecar driver pulled over and allowed everyone to pass me, thereby boosting, one might rightfully think a person is tanking and ruining the integrity of the sport, but we are on Dueling Book. It is understandable to wish to uphold your rules but how often do you see someone pull over and allow everyone else an indiscriminate advantage? Not blatantly as he did either if you truly believe he did this to ‘boost’ others. But would it not be more fair and even simpler to give him another chance and if anything along this line occurred again that you bring down the hammer?

This seems like an anomaly and whether you think he is lying about his story, whether you think he is completely wrong for ‘boosting’ negatively indiscriminately, whether it is against the rules is completely up to the moderators/admins/higherups but the actual punishment for the crime? If needs be reset his wins, losses, and exp but I urge you to reconsider this as a poor decision or stupid and to just watch him if needs be since it is not hard to do. The punishment just is not befitting of the crime no matter how you slice it, if it were the other way around and users were found to be boosting him or you had found evidence of him boosting a select group this would have more merit to it. Penalization is fine but the scale is bordering asinine.[/quote:qcoe9hjf]

The moderators tought it was the best, applying the idea that this isnt acceptable in anyway, shape or form, but d1234 does not give up on saying that he was wrongfully punished.

This kind of things are listed in the the rules. The argument that they weren't specified is so weak. You can say that only positive boosting is punishable, but in reality, the mods have the final word and they decide if that enters into that category.

Ex post facto is the concept of, even after the events, if the judges think so, the punish can be harsher or lighter.

Most of us are just responding to him about why we think he is wrong. This entire drama just surged because one person is just really persistent. This isn't about Dark Cyborg, this thread started as a meme, but d1234 and others (including myself) started to discuss that here when the original thread was locked.

Even if the mods and the entire Anti-Negative Boosting is wrong, it does not delete a main factor. I have read somewhere that when you are driving, even if the truck driver is in the wrong, you should let him think he is, so you do not get crushed.

Finally, wow, this may be like crazy theory, but isn't it crazy that you are taking a more positive regarding Dark Cyborg, but him (alongside with me) is the only one who has seen your profile, and that this is your only post? I don't know, but you really are something special Dark Cyborg.[/quote:qcoe9hjf]

I think you're insinuating Cyborg and myself are the same people and if you believe d1234 is then I guess you'd think so but I'm simply a person who read the situation and thought it was harsh. I know Cyborg from DB since we've dueled many times you're welcome to talk to me on DB anytime and thought this whole scenario is just extreme. I think it's more crazy that you think anyone who seems to even give Cyborg and ear or has an opinion to his side is automatically him.

[quote="Bloodclown":12cp02k4][quote="Lil Oldman":12cp02k4][quote="Bloodclown":12cp02k4]It is hard to imagine a thread can be made about a specific user in which what he did, in this ‘boosting’ himself by tanking his score, and what has been already thoroughly discussed on its official thread has not ended but is instead being brought up again here. This itself in my eye’s verges on a form of harassment in that you are demeaning a player by publicly bringing his situation into the limelight with what cannot even be assumed to be sarcasm. This issue with Dark Cyborg’s ‘boosting’ could have been solved more simply with a lenient punishment and a warning that any further occurrence of this kind would result in a ban or suspension of his account.

Let us be reasonable how often do you believe ‘boosting’ by tanking your own score to not promote a select group of individuals or an individual occurs. Harassment itself is against the rules and even that has an illusory and subjective scale of being enforced and interpreted, there is not even a clear distinction as to what harassment constitutes since its base definition is solely dependent on a person’s state of mind and their willingness to be offended and to speak risks offense.

This issue with Dark Cyborg is based on the original thread by him and many of the responses levied to him by various users seems to just indicate an unwillingness to even consider that what he did is petty and being punished severely for what could just be ‘boosting’ indiscriminately, not to mention many of the remarks are basically of no actual aide to either party and contribute to what they decide to call spam by ‘spamming’ comments such as, “How is this thread still going on”. If I as a racecar driver pulled over and allowed everyone to pass me, thereby boosting, one might rightfully think a person is tanking and ruining the integrity of the sport, but we are on Dueling Book. It is understandable to wish to uphold your rules but how often do you see someone pull over and allow everyone else an indiscriminate advantage? Not blatantly as he did either if you truly believe he did this to ‘boost’ others. But would it not be more fair and even simpler to give him another chance and if anything along this line occurred again that you bring down the hammer?

This seems like an anomaly and whether you think he is lying about his story, whether you think he is completely wrong for ‘boosting’ negatively indiscriminately, whether it is against the rules is completely up to the moderators/admins/higherups but the actual punishment for the crime? If needs be reset his wins, losses, and exp but I urge you to reconsider this as a poor decision or stupid and to just watch him if needs be since it is not hard to do. The punishment just is not befitting of the crime no matter how you slice it, if it were the other way around and users were found to be boosting him or you had found evidence of him boosting a select group this would have more merit to it. Penalization is fine but the scale is bordering asinine.[/quote:12cp02k4]

The moderators tought it was the best, applying the idea that this isnt acceptable in anyway, shape or form, but d1234 does not give up on saying that he was wrongfully punished.

This kind of things are listed in the the rules. The argument that they weren't specified is so weak. You can say that only positive boosting is punishable, but in reality, the mods have the final word and they decide if that enters into that category.

Ex post facto is the concept of, even after the events, if the judges think so, the punish can be harsher or lighter.

Most of us are just responding to him about why we think he is wrong. This entire drama just surged because one person is just really persistent. This isn't about Dark Cyborg, this thread started as a meme, but d1234 and others (including myself) started to discuss that here when the original thread was locked.

Even if the mods and the entire Anti-Negative Boosting is wrong, it does not delete a main factor. I have read somewhere that when you are driving, even if the truck driver is in the wrong, you should let him think he is, so you do not get crushed.

Finally, wow, this may be like crazy theory, but isn't it crazy that you are taking a more positive regarding Dark Cyborg, but him (alongside with me) is the only one who has seen your profile, and that this is your only post? I don't know, but you really are something special Dark Cyborg.[/quote:12cp02k4]

I think you're insinuating Cyborg and myself are the same people and if you believe d1234 is then I guess you'd think so but I'm simply a person who read the situation and thought it was harsh. I know Cyborg from DB since we've dueled many times you're welcome to talk to me on DB anytime and thought this whole scenario is just extreme. I think it's more crazy that you think anyone who seems to even give Cyborg and ear or has an opinion to his side is automatically him.[/quote:12cp02k4]

I find crazier that
A) You have that position after actually reading the entire situation (considering the original post was about 200+ posts)
B) You think that with all the statements in other threads that I showed that d1234 is an alt of Dark Cyborg
C) Thinking that just because I talk to you in the site just disproves that you are an alt
D) You didn't added up to anything I actually said. Excuse me sir but I spent a whole minute making that post

[quote="Lil Oldman":16kxfo9f][quote="Bloodclown":16kxfo9f][quote="Lil Oldman":16kxfo9f]

The moderators tought it was the best, applying the idea that this isnt acceptable in anyway, shape or form, but d1234 does not give up on saying that he was wrongfully punished.

This kind of things are listed in the the rules. The argument that they weren't specified is so weak. You can say that only positive boosting is punishable, but in reality, the mods have the final word and they decide if that enters into that category.

Ex post facto is the concept of, even after the events, if the judges think so, the punish can be harsher or lighter.

Most of us are just responding to him about why we think he is wrong. This entire drama just surged because one person is just really persistent. This isn't about Dark Cyborg, this thread started as a meme, but d1234 and others (including myself) started to discuss that here when the original thread was locked.

Even if the mods and the entire Anti-Negative Boosting is wrong, it does not delete a main factor. I have read somewhere that when you are driving, even if the truck driver is in the wrong, you should let him think he is, so you do not get crushed.

Finally, wow, this may be like crazy theory, but isn't it crazy that you are taking a more positive regarding Dark Cyborg, but him (alongside with me) is the only one who has seen your profile, and that this is your only post? I don't know, but you really are something special Dark Cyborg.[/quote:16kxfo9f]

I think you're insinuating Cyborg and myself are the same people and if you believe d1234 is then I guess you'd think so but I'm simply a person who read the situation and thought it was harsh. I know Cyborg from DB since we've dueled many times you're welcome to talk to me on DB anytime and thought this whole scenario is just extreme. I think it's more crazy that you think anyone who seems to even give Cyborg and ear or has an opinion to his side is automatically him.[/quote:16kxfo9f]

I find crazier that
A) You have that position after actually reading the entire situation (considering the original post was about 200+ posts)
B) You think that with all the statements in other threads that I showed that d1234 is an alt of Dark Cyborg
C) Thinking that just because I talk to you in the site just disproves that you are an alt
D) You didn't added up to anything I actually said. Excuse me sir but I spent a whole minute making that post [/quote:16kxfo9f]

A) I have a position that it would have be simpler to have given him another chance and then permanently banned him from the site
B) No I'm thinking it's crazy to think I'm an alt of Cyborg
C) This wasn't to disprove anything it was simply you can find me on DB cause I don't want to use the forum hence why my posts are low and if there's really a dispute to who I am I wouldn't expect you to be confirming it anyway. I'm not even sure what would prove to you that I'm not besides a mod having to come to this thread and tell you (But we can't expect that).
D) I read what you said I didn't find anything substantive in that this information is mostly known the issue is only the punishment being harsher or lighter in this case was harsher for something petty

[quote="Bloodclown":2ob4xubt][quote="Lil Oldman":2ob4xubt][quote="Bloodclown":2ob4xubt]

I think you're insinuating Cyborg and myself are the same people and if you believe d1234 is then I guess you'd think so but I'm simply a person who read the situation and thought it was harsh. I know Cyborg from DB since we've dueled many times you're welcome to talk to me on DB anytime and thought this whole scenario is just extreme. I think it's more crazy that you think anyone who seems to even give Cyborg and ear or has an opinion to his side is automatically him.[/quote:2ob4xubt]

I find crazier that
A) You have that position after actually reading the entire situation (considering the original post was about 200+ posts)
B) You think that with all the statements in other threads that I showed that d1234 is an alt of Dark Cyborg
C) Thinking that just because I talk to you in the site just disproves that you are an alt
D) You didn't added up to anything I actually said. Excuse me sir but I spent a whole minute making that post [/quote:2ob4xubt]

A) I have a position that it would have be simpler to have given him another chance and then permanently banned him from the site
B) No I'm thinking it's crazy to think I'm an alt of Cyborg
C) This wasn't to disprove anything it was simply you can find me on DB cause I don't want to use the forum hence why my posts are low and if there's really a dispute to who I am I wouldn't expect you to be confirming it anyway. I'm not even sure what would prove to you that I'm not besides a mod having to come to this thread and tell you (But we can't expect that).
D) I read what you said I didn't find anything substantive in that this information is mostly known the issue is only the punishment being harsher or lighter in this case was harsher for something petty[/quote:2ob4xubt]

A) The punishment was to leave clear they do not want that behavior here. Even being banned from rated isn't that harsh, if he really wanted to play in rated he would have just made an appeal, not this rockus.
B) Wasn't talking about you, was talking about d1234
C) That would be either talking about when you joined (that now that I see, you joined before Dark Cyborg, sorry about that.) or having a trust worthy user like Christen, Darkphenix or even Crystal to say otherwise.
D) If maybe Dark Cyborg did the right thing of making an appeal maybe he would have gained other chance.

In a side note: Due to point C, I still believe that d1234 is Dark Cyborg's alt.

[quote="Lil Oldman":albyuamm][quote="Bloodclown":albyuamm][quote="Lil Oldman":albyuamm]

I find crazier that
A) You have that position after actually reading the entire situation (considering the original post was about 200+ posts)
B) You think that with all the statements in other threads that I showed that d1234 is an alt of Dark Cyborg
C) Thinking that just because I talk to you in the site just disproves that you are an alt
D) You didn't added up to anything I actually said. Excuse me sir but I spent a whole minute making that post [/quote:albyuamm]

A) I have a position that it would have be simpler to have given him another chance and then permanently banned him from the site
B) No I'm thinking it's crazy to think I'm an alt of Cyborg
C) This wasn't to disprove anything it was simply you can find me on DB cause I don't want to use the forum hence why my posts are low and if there's really a dispute to who I am I wouldn't expect you to be confirming it anyway. I'm not even sure what would prove to you that I'm not besides a mod having to come to this thread and tell you (But we can't expect that).
D) I read what you said I didn't find anything substantive in that this information is mostly known the issue is only the punishment being harsher or lighter in this case was harsher for something petty[/quote:albyuamm]

A) The punishment was to leave clear they do not want that behavior here. Even being banned from rated isn't that harsh, if he really wanted to play in rated he would have just made an appeal, not this rockus.
B) Wasn't talking about you, was talking about d1234
C) That would be either talking about when you joined (that now that I see, you joined before Dark Cyborg, sorry about that.) or having a trust worthy user like Christen, Darkphenix or even Crystal to say otherwise.
D) If maybe Dark Cyborg did the right thing of making an appeal maybe he would have gained other chance.

In a side note: Due to point C, I still believe that d1234 is Dark Cyborg's alt.[/quote:albyuamm]

Not a problem glad this didn't get hostile I only responded cause as I said earlier i've dueled him quite a few times and we have some shared friends so when I caught win of this I responded the way I did because as I mentioned I think the sentence was harsh. I think making an appeal would've helped I have no knowledge if he did or not but I think posting it was fair on his part either way in an attempt to garner some understanding from the player base which didn't seem to work out and unfortunately many members got unwarrantedly hostile with him in my opinion. I still think what occurred was premature and I just hope someone will reread/reconsider his case.

[quote="Bloodclown":s1w5l5cq][quote="Lil Oldman":s1w5l5cq][quote="Bloodclown":s1w5l5cq]

A) I have a position that it would have be simpler to have given him another chance and then permanently banned him from the site
B) No I'm thinking it's crazy to think I'm an alt of Cyborg
C) This wasn't to disprove anything it was simply you can find me on DB cause I don't want to use the forum hence why my posts are low and if there's really a dispute to who I am I wouldn't expect you to be confirming it anyway. I'm not even sure what would prove to you that I'm not besides a mod having to come to this thread and tell you (But we can't expect that).
D) I read what you said I didn't find anything substantive in that this information is mostly known the issue is only the punishment being harsher or lighter in this case was harsher for something petty[/quote:s1w5l5cq]

A) The punishment was to leave clear they do not want that behavior here. Even being banned from rated isn't that harsh, if he really wanted to play in rated he would have just made an appeal, not this rockus.
B) Wasn't talking about you, was talking about d1234
C) That would be either talking about when you joined (that now that I see, you joined before Dark Cyborg, sorry about that.) or having a trust worthy user like Christen, Darkphenix or even Crystal to say otherwise.
D) If maybe Dark Cyborg did the right thing of making an appeal maybe he would have gained other chance.

In a side note: Due to point C, I still believe that d1234 is Dark Cyborg's alt.[/quote:s1w5l5cq]

Not a problem glad this didn't get hostile I only responded cause as I said earlier i've dueled him quite a few times and we have some shared friends so when I caught wind of this I responded the way I did because as I mentioned I think the sentence was harsh. I think making an appeal would've helped I have no knowledge if he did or not but I think posting it was fair on his part either way in an attempt to garner some understanding from the player base which didn't seem to work out and unfortunately many members got unwarrantedly hostile with him in my opinion. I still think what occurred was premature and I just hope someone will reread/reconsider his case.[/quote:s1w5l5cq]

[quote="Lil Oldman":249g3njl][quote="Bloodclown":249g3njl][quote="Lil Oldman":249g3njl]

I find crazier that
A) You have that position after actually reading the entire situation (considering the original post was about 200+ posts)
B) You think that with all the statements in other threads that I showed that d1234 is an alt of Dark Cyborg
C) Thinking that just because I talk to you in the site just disproves that you are an alt
D) You didn't added up to anything I actually said. Excuse me sir but I spent a whole minute making that post [/quote:249g3njl]

A) I have a position that it would have be simpler to have given him another chance and then permanently banned him from the site
B) No I'm thinking it's crazy to think I'm an alt of Cyborg
C) This wasn't to disprove anything it was simply you can find me on DB cause I don't want to use the forum hence why my posts are low and if there's really a dispute to who I am I wouldn't expect you to be confirming it anyway. I'm not even sure what would prove to you that I'm not besides a mod having to come to this thread and tell you (But we can't expect that).
D) I read what you said I didn't find anything substantive in that this information is mostly known the issue is only the punishment being harsher or lighter in this case was harsher for something petty[/quote:249g3njl]

A) The punishment was to leave clear they do not want that behavior here. Even being banned from rated isn't that harsh, if he really wanted to play in rated he would have just made an appeal, not this rockus.
B) Wasn't talking about you, was talking about d1234
C) That would be either talking about when you joined (that now that I see, you joined before Dark Cyborg, sorry about that.) or having a trust worthy user like Christen, Darkphenix or even Crystal to say otherwise.
D) If maybe Dark Cyborg did the right thing of making an appeal maybe he would have gained other chance.

In a side note: Due to point C, I still believe that d1234 is Dark Cyborg's alt.[/quote:249g3njl]


Jesus Christ, I had only seen this thread recently and now there are unfair accusations against me. d1234 is not an alt of mine. Perhaps you can ask an admin to clarify this for you. Just because someone supports me, you automatically believe that an account is an alternate of mine. Please stop spreading ignorant lies about me in an attempt to slander my character.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":38awttiy][quote="Lil Oldman":38awttiy][quote="Bloodclown":38awttiy]

A) I have a position that it would have be simpler to have given him another chance and then permanently banned him from the site
B) No I'm thinking it's crazy to think I'm an alt of Cyborg
C) This wasn't to disprove anything it was simply you can find me on DB cause I don't want to use the forum hence why my posts are low and if there's really a dispute to who I am I wouldn't expect you to be confirming it anyway. I'm not even sure what would prove to you that I'm not besides a mod having to come to this thread and tell you (But we can't expect that).
D) I read what you said I didn't find anything substantive in that this information is mostly known the issue is only the punishment being harsher or lighter in this case was harsher for something petty[/quote:38awttiy]

A) The punishment was to leave clear they do not want that behavior here. Even being banned from rated isn't that harsh, if he really wanted to play in rated he would have just made an appeal, not this rockus.
B) Wasn't talking about you, was talking about d1234
C) That would be either talking about when you joined (that now that I see, you joined before Dark Cyborg, sorry about that.) or having a trust worthy user like Christen, Darkphenix or even Crystal to say otherwise.
D) If maybe Dark Cyborg did the right thing of making an appeal maybe he would have gained other chance.

In a side note: Due to point C, I still believe that d1234 is Dark Cyborg's alt.[/quote:38awttiy]


Jesus Christ, I had only seen this thread recently and now there are unfair accusations against me. d1234 is not an alt of mine. Perhaps you can ask an admin to clarify this for you. Just because someone supports me, you automatically believe that an account is an alternate of mine. Please stop spreading ignorant lies about me in an attempt to slander my character.[/quote:38awttiy]

Not to try to be a jerk, but with all information Ive gathered, it only makes me feel more Secure about my hypothesis of d1234. I am lazy enough to look into details, but with the evidence here and the one in d1234's thread about the problems with db I am confident about my belief.
Side note: I do not know where one asks if x person and y person are different so I Cannot rely on that info, unless a mod wants to confirm this, if so I will gladly take the blame for accusing you of being a someone you arent.

[quote="Lil Oldman":6nrrdzs8][quote="Dark Cyborg":6nrrdzs8][quote="Lil Oldman":6nrrdzs8]

A) The punishment was to leave clear they do not want that behavior here. Even being banned from rated isn't that harsh, if he really wanted to play in rated he would have just made an appeal, not this rockus.
B) Wasn't talking about you, was talking about d1234
C) That would be either talking about when you joined (that now that I see, you joined before Dark Cyborg, sorry about that.) or having a trust worthy user like Christen, Darkphenix or even Crystal to say otherwise.
D) If maybe Dark Cyborg did the right thing of making an appeal maybe he would have gained other chance.

In a side note: Due to point C, I still believe that d1234 is Dark Cyborg's alt.[/quote:6nrrdzs8]


Jesus Christ, I had only seen this thread recently and now there are unfair accusations against me. d1234 is not an alt of mine. Perhaps you can ask an admin to clarify this for you. Just because someone supports me, you automatically believe that an account is an alternate of mine. Please stop spreading ignorant lies about me in an attempt to slander my character.[/quote:6nrrdzs8]

Not to try to be a jerk, but with all information Ive gathered, it only makes me feel more Secure about my hypothesis of d1234. I am lazy enough to look into details, but with the evidence here and the one in d1234's thread about the problems with db I am confident about my belief.
Side note: I do not know where one asks if x person and y person are different so I Cannot rely on that info, unless a mod wants to confirm this, if so I will gladly take the blame for accusing you of being a someone you arent.[/quote:6nrrdzs8]

Man, what information do you have? What evidence do You have? I’m just trying to mind my own business, but people like you have this goal to criticize my character. You also say you’re lazy to seek details. If people support me, I guess you automatically assume that the account is alternate of mine; I’ve already seen you do this twice. If you don’t like what I did then talk about that, stop fucking spreading lies about me.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":3knh1t5s][quote="Lil Oldman":3knh1t5s][quote="Dark Cyborg":3knh1t5s]


Jesus Christ, I had only seen this thread recently and now there are unfair accusations against me. d1234 is not an alt of mine. Perhaps you can ask an admin to clarify this for you. Just because someone supports me, you automatically believe that an account is an alternate of mine. Please stop spreading ignorant lies about me in an attempt to slander my character.[/quote:3knh1t5s]

Not to try to be a jerk, but with all information Ive gathered, it only makes me feel more Secure about my hypothesis of d1234. I am lazy enough to look into details, but with the evidence here and the one in d1234's thread about the problems with db I am confident about my belief.
Side note: I do not know where one asks if x person and y person are different so I Cannot rely on that info, unless a mod wants to confirm this, if so I will gladly take the blame for accusing you of being a someone you arent.[/quote:3knh1t5s]

Man, what information do you have? What evidence do You have? I’m just trying to mind my own business, but people like you have this goal to criticize my character. You also say you’re lazy to seek details. If people support me, I guess you automatically assume that the account is alternate of mine; I’ve already seen you do this twice. If you don’t like what I did then talk about that, stop fucking spreading lies about me.[/quote:3knh1t5s]

In case you didn't realize, I created this thread specifically to make fun of you.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":vp0a1by2][quote="Lil Oldman":vp0a1by2][quote="Dark Cyborg":vp0a1by2]


Jesus Christ, I had only seen this thread recently and now there are unfair accusations against me. d1234 is not an alt of mine. Perhaps you can ask an admin to clarify this for you. Just because someone supports me, you automatically believe that an account is an alternate of mine. Please stop spreading ignorant lies about me in an attempt to slander my character.[/quote:vp0a1by2]

Not to try to be a jerk, but with all information Ive gathered, it only makes me feel more Secure about my hypothesis of d1234. I am lazy enough to look into details, but with the evidence here and the one in d1234's thread about the problems with db I am confident about my belief.
Side note: I do not know where one asks if x person and y person are different so I Cannot rely on that info, unless a mod wants to confirm this, if so I will gladly take the blame for accusing you of being a someone you arent.[/quote:vp0a1by2]

Man, what information do you have? What evidence do You have? I’m just trying to mind my own business, but people like you have this goal to criticize my character. You also say you’re lazy to seek details. If people support me, I guess you automatically assume that the account is alternate of mine; I’ve already seen you do this twice. If you don’t like what I did then talk about that, stop fucking spreading lies about me.[/quote:vp0a1by2]

I literally told you where I gathered my info, that info is at d1234's thread about the problems with db, not my problem you didnt even look at it before saying I only do it to criticize you.
Maybe it is that I didnt worded it correctly, but I meant that, since I am currently on mobile, I didnt want to start juggling tabs so it is easier to just tell you where I leaves my info.
I only do this because it is fun Having a debate. I am not trying to mock anyone just because they are x or y. I mock just for fun and you arent the only one I have mocked you idot.

[quote="troglyte":18ww8h1p][quote="Dark Cyborg":18ww8h1p][quote="Lil Oldman":18ww8h1p]

Not to try to be a jerk, but with all information Ive gathered, it only makes me feel more Secure about my hypothesis of d1234. I am lazy enough to look into details, but with the evidence here and the one in d1234's thread about the problems with db I am confident about my belief.
Side note: I do not know where one asks if x person and y person are different so I Cannot rely on that info, unless a mod wants to confirm this, if so I will gladly take the blame for accusing you of being a someone you arent.[/quote:18ww8h1p]

Man, what information do you have? What evidence do You have? I’m just trying to mind my own business, but people like you have this goal to criticize my character. You also say you’re lazy to seek details. If people support me, I guess you automatically assume that the account is alternate of mine; I’ve already seen you do this twice. If you don’t like what I did then talk about that, stop fucking spreading lies about me.[/quote:18ww8h1p]

In case you didn't realize, I created this thread specifically to make fun of you.[/quote:18ww8h1p]

I mean that’s fine man. You went these great lengths for me lol. It’s just great to see that I live in your head rent free.

Oh no, he owned you, now you'll have to obey him for the rest of his lief! D:

[quote="Lil Oldman":2a2wghjl][quote="Dark Cyborg":2a2wghjl][quote="Lil Oldman":2a2wghjl]

Not to try to be a jerk, but with all information Ive gathered, it only makes me feel more Secure about my hypothesis of d1234. I am lazy enough to look into details, but with the evidence here and the one in d1234's thread about the problems with db I am confident about my belief.
Side note: I do not know where one asks if x person and y person are different so I Cannot rely on that info, unless a mod wants to confirm this, if so I will gladly take the blame for accusing you of being a someone you arent.[/quote:2a2wghjl]

Man, what information do you have? What evidence do You have? I’m just trying to mind my own business, but people like you have this goal to criticize my character. You also say you’re lazy to seek details. If people support me, I guess you automatically assume that the account is alternate of mine; I’ve already seen you do this twice. If you don’t like what I did then talk about that, stop fucking spreading lies about me.[/quote:2a2wghjl]

I literally told you where I gathered my info, that info is at d1234's thread about the problems with db, not my problem you didnt even look at it before saying I only do it to criticize you.
Maybe it is that I didnt worded it correctly, but I meant that, since I am currently on mobile, I didnt want to start juggling tabs so it is easier to just tell you where I leaves my info.
I only do this because it is fun Having a debate. I am not trying to mock anyone just because they are x or y. I mock just for fun and you arent the only one I have mocked you idot.[/quote:2a2wghjl]

I’m not aware of d1234’s thread regarding problems with db. But once again, d1234 is not an alternate of mine. So stop spreading this lie. d1234 is a passionate voice on this forum, and his actions are purely autonomous.

Still an alt of yours

[quote="Dark Cyborg":34wyo018][quote="Lil Oldman":34wyo018][quote="Dark Cyborg":34wyo018]

Man, what information do you have? What evidence do You have? I’m just trying to mind my own business, but people like you have this goal to criticize my character. You also say you’re lazy to seek details. If people support me, I guess you automatically assume that the account is alternate of mine; I’ve already seen you do this twice. If you don’t like what I did then talk about that, stop fucking spreading lies about me.[/quote:34wyo018]

I literally told you where I gathered my info, that info is at d1234's thread about the problems with db, not my problem you didnt even look at it before saying I only do it to criticize you.
Maybe it is that I didnt worded it correctly, but I meant that, since I am currently on mobile, I didnt want to start juggling tabs so it is easier to just tell you where I leaves my info.
I only do this because it is fun Having a debate. I am not trying to mock anyone just because they are x or y. I mock just for fun and you arent the only one I have mocked you idot.[/quote:34wyo018]

I’m not aware of d1234’s thread regarding problems with db. But once again, d1234 is not an alternate of mine. So stop spreading this lie. d1234 is a passionate voice on this forum, and his actions are purely autonomous.[/quote:34wyo018]
You dont look at it because you do not want to, it is literally in the main page. So it may be time to bring it myself.
This is the stuff that makes me believe d1234 is an alt. Along with the stuff mentioned in this thread.

1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.

Explaining
d1234's signature is "remove dark Cyborg from beginer
Since the events of today, you hadnt posted in a good, Good, Good amount of time.
Was made before the events of today where you looked at clown's profile, but the point was, how can you only look at his profile and not other more active members like me, darkphenix, Genexwrecker or Cristen57 (is it 57 or 47?)
And another point, how can d1234 be a Brand new account, only talk about you and procede to start only talking about powerabusers. I am real lazy to look when you started the "banned from rated" thread, but if someone wants to check if d1234 account creations was made after the thread, then it is another point in favor.

[quote="Renji Asuka":21fj5qr2]Still an alt of yours [/quote:21fj5qr2]

Ahh Renji, another ignorant individual whose head I happen to reside rent free as well. Thank you for your patronage!

OOOOOh, he owned you real gud, now kiss hsi foot xd

[quote="Lil Oldman":6f46ylsj][quote="Dark Cyborg":6f46ylsj][quote="Lil Oldman":6f46ylsj]

I literally told you where I gathered my info, that info is at d1234's thread about the problems with db, not my problem you didnt even look at it before saying I only do it to criticize you.
Maybe it is that I didnt worded it correctly, but I meant that, since I am currently on mobile, I didnt want to start juggling tabs so it is easier to just tell you where I leaves my info.
I only do this because it is fun Having a debate. I am not trying to mock anyone just because they are x or y. I mock just for fun and you arent the only one I have mocked you idot.[/quote:6f46ylsj]

I’m not aware of d1234’s thread regarding problems with db. But once again, d1234 is not an alternate of mine. So stop spreading this lie. d1234 is a passionate voice on this forum, and his actions are purely autonomous.[/quote:6f46ylsj]
You dont look at it because you do not want to, it is literally in the main page. So it may be time to bring it myself.
This is the stuff that makes me believe d1234 is an alt. Along with the stuff mentioned in this thread.

1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.

Explaining
d1234's signature is "remove dark Cyborg from beginer
Since the events of today, you hadnt posted in a good, Good, Good amount of time.
Was made before the events of today where you looked at clown's profile, but the point was, how can you only look at his profile and not other more active members like me, darkphenix, Genexwrecker or Cristen57 (is it 57 or 47?)
And another point, how can d1234 be a Brand new account, only talk about you and procede to start only talking about powerabusers. I am real lazy to look when you started the "banned from rated" thread, but if someone wants to check if d1234 account creations was made after the thread, then it is another point in favor.[/quote:6f46ylsj]

So if I’m unaware of a post that someone else makes that adds to your suspicion. The logic is lacking there.

1. d1234 is entitled signature he wants, I have no part in it.
2. I’ve only posted on here regarding my appeal. After it was denied, I contested it some more. However, this forum failed to listen to it so I stopped.
3. Is there something wrong with viewing another persons profile. I was interested in seeing the profile of someone who supported. And honestly you’re going to criticize me for not looking at your profile. Are you desperate for views or something lmao?

And let me help you with your attempt to defame me. d1234 account was made in March of 2020 while my post was made in November of 2020.

Your evidence or information is absolutely nonsense. Why don’t you attempt to validate your claims before spewing lies. You can’t fathom the reality of another person supporting me, so you attempt to slander me.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":1jm1jme8][quote="Renji Asuka":1jm1jme8]Still an alt of yours [/quote:1jm1jme8]

Ahh Renji, another ignorant individual whose head I happen to reside rent free as well. Thank you for your patronage! [/quote:1jm1jme8]

Ah yes, because everyone who doesn't buy your BS is an obsessive hater.

We've entered CrystalMusic levels of delusion, bois.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":982v0i86][quote="Lil Oldman":982v0i86][quote="Dark Cyborg":982v0i86]

I’m not aware of d1234’s thread regarding problems with db. But once again, d1234 is not an alternate of mine. So stop spreading this lie. d1234 is a passionate voice on this forum, and his actions are purely autonomous.[/quote:982v0i86]
You dont look at it because you do not want to, it is literally in the main page. So it may be time to bring it myself.
This is the stuff that makes me believe d1234 is an alt. Along with the stuff mentioned in this thread.

1.1- Your signature
1.2- Dark Cyborg hardly ever posts (or never)
1.3- Dark Cyborg has only seen your profile, even though I initially side by his side.

Explaining
d1234's signature is "remove dark Cyborg from beginer
Since the events of today, you hadnt posted in a good, Good, Good amount of time.
Was made before the events of today where you looked at clown's profile, but the point was, how can you only look at his profile and not other more active members like me, darkphenix, Genexwrecker or Cristen57 (is it 57 or 47?)
And another point, how can d1234 be a Brand new account, only talk about you and procede to start only talking about powerabusers. I am real lazy to look when you started the "banned from rated" thread, but if someone wants to check if d1234 account creations was made after the thread, then it is another point in favor.[/quote:982v0i86]

So if I’m unaware of a post that someone else makes that adds to your suspicion. The logic is lacking there.

1. d1234 is entitled signature he wants, I have no part in it.
2. I’ve only posted on here regarding my appeal. After it was denied, I contested it some more. However, this forum failed to listen to it so I stopped.
3. Is there something wrong with viewing another persons profile. I was interested in seeing the profile of someone who supported. And honestly you’re going to criticize me for not looking at your profile. Are you desperate for views or something lmao?

And let me help you with your attempt to defame me. d1234 account was made in March of 2020 while my post was made in November of 2020.

Your evidence or information is absolutely nonsense. Why don’t you attempt to validate your claims before spewing lies. You can’t fathom the reality of another person supporting me, so you attempt to slander me.[/quote:982v0i86]
1.I said it was a red flga
3.If I was desperate of someone looking at my profile I would just say, why didnt you look at my profile. Im saying that I find odd the appeal on d1234 and not others like darkphenix, christen27 or Genexwrecker, who where active on the thread aswell.
4. I do not care to defame you, d1234 already did with his insistance
5. What is ferrothorn and chandler
Look, I do not care about who you are, I just like to mock everyone nd anyone, I did with crystal, I did ith d1234, amhr kahif or what ever his name was and I did with you.

[quote="troglyte":518yvibr][quote="Dark Cyborg":518yvibr][quote="Renji Asuka":518yvibr]Still an alt of yours [/quote:518yvibr]

Ahh Renji, another ignorant individual whose head I happen to reside rent free as well. Thank you for your patronage! [/quote:518yvibr]

Ah yes, because everyone who doesn't buy your BS is an obsessive hater.

We've entered CrystalMusic levels of delusion, bois.[/quote:518yvibr]

Oh looks like troglyte is big mad. Calm down there. Your buddy had an ill advised take and I’m simply calling him out for it. Are you able to comprehend? Please do some fact checking if you are going to make a certain claim.

As incoherent as Lil Oldman's arguments are, I do have to agree with him about 'slandering your character.'

You did most of the damage yourself and d1234 helped. We're just picking up the table scraps.

[quote="Lil Oldman":2gc6y9ld][quote="Dark Cyborg":2gc6y9ld][quote="Lil Oldman":2gc6y9ld]
You dont look at it because you do not want to, it is literally in the main page. So it may be time to bring it myself.
This is the stuff that makes me believe d1234 is an alt. Along with the stuff mentioned in this thread.

Explaining
d1234's signature is "remove dark Cyborg from beginer
Since the events of today, you hadnt posted in a good, Good, Good amount of time.
Was made before the events of today where you looked at clown's profile, but the point was, how can you only look at his profile and not other more active members like me, darkphenix, Genexwrecker or Cristen57 (is it 57 or 47?)
And another point, how can d1234 be a Brand new account, only talk about you and procede to start only talking about powerabusers. I am real lazy to look when you started the "banned from rated" thread, but if someone wants to check if d1234 account creations was made after the thread, then it is another point in favor.[/quote:2gc6y9ld]

So if I’m unaware of a post that someone else makes that adds to your suspicion. The logic is lacking there.

1. d1234 is entitled signature he wants, I have no part in it.
2. I’ve only posted on here regarding my appeal. After it was denied, I contested it some more. However, this forum failed to listen to it so I stopped.
3. Is there something wrong with viewing another persons profile. I was interested in seeing the profile of someone who supported. And honestly you’re going to criticize me for not looking at your profile. Are you desperate for views or something lmao?

And let me help you with your attempt to defame me. d1234 account was made in March of 2020 while my post was made in November of 2020.

Your evidence or information is absolutely nonsense. Why don’t you attempt to validate your claims before spewing lies. You can’t fathom the reality of another person supporting me, so you attempt to slander me.[/quote:2gc6y9ld]
1.I said it was a red flga
3.If I was desperate of someone looking at my profile I would just say, why didnt you look at my profile. Im saying that I find odd the appeal on d1234 and not others like darkphenix, christen27 or Genexwrecker, who where active on the thread aswell.
4. I do not care to defame you, d1234 already did with his insistance
5. What is ferrothorn and chandler
Look, I do not care about who you are, I just like to mock everyone nd anyone, I did with crystal, I did ith d1234, amhr kahif or what ever his name was and I did with you.[/quote:2gc6y9ld]

I mean if you are going to put out an effort to mock me, shouldn’t you at least put some effort. Those were some of the worst claims I’ve ever seen in an attempt to mock me and d1234. I would think you’re better than that.

Anyway, whats promised is Debt, mr. Cyborg, you have made me achieve nirvana now that I know more about this crazy drama that surged. I am sorry for acussing you of being d1234 and take the blame for it. My mind is a really messed up place and I Cannot really explain why do I think you are d1234, regardless i know it is not your fault.

[quote="Lil Oldman":1qm0mdan]Anyway, whats promised is Debt, mr. Cyborg, you have made me achieve nirvana now that I know more about this crazy drama that surged. I am sorry for acussing you of being d1234 and take the blame for it. My mind is a really messed up place and I Cannot really explain why do I think you are d1234, regardless i know it is not your fault.[/quote:1qm0mdan]

You’re good. I’m glad you acknowledged your mistake.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":3cbuomsv][quote="Lil Oldman":3cbuomsv]Anyway, whats promised is Debt, mr. Cyborg, you have made me achieve nirvana now that I know more about this crazy drama that surged. I am sorry for acussing you of being d1234 and take the blame for it. My mind is a really messed up place and I Cannot really explain why do I think you are d1234, regardless i know it is not your fault.[/quote:3cbuomsv]

You’re good. I’m glad you acknowledged your mistake. Hope you get things straight[/quote:3cbuomsv]
Yeah, again sorry about it, I truly believed that you where d1234, I remember seeing that theory and it just clicked to me, but Cannot explain why, I am an idot, a bird-brained and an idot. I never really bothered with the creation of the account, I just saw 2020 and called it a day, until clown entered the picture. With the account creations date in place the entire theory fell apart (at least for me). I thinked about you being an alt just to get this over with, because altough at the beggining it was fresh Having a discusion that wasnt about crystal fucking music I grew bored and my brain just said "it is an alt, just forget it" And didnt thought of the consequences. Again hope this doesnt have any sequels and hope you do not hate me for spreading this lie.

[quote="Lil Oldman":3bxhj5x5][quote="Dark Cyborg":3bxhj5x5][quote="Lil Oldman":3bxhj5x5]Anyway, whats promised is Debt, mr. Cyborg, you have made me achieve nirvana now that I know more about this crazy drama that surged. I am sorry for acussing you of being d1234 and take the blame for it. My mind is a really messed up place and I Cannot really explain why do I think you are d1234, regardless i know it is not your fault.[/quote:3bxhj5x5]

You’re good. I’m glad you acknowledged your mistake. Hope you get things straight[/quote:3bxhj5x5]
Yeah, again sorry about it, I truly believed that you where d1234, I remember seeing that theory and it just clicked to me, but Cannot explain why, I am an idot, a bird-brained and an idot. I never really bothered with the creation of the account, I just saw 2020 and called it a day, until clown entered the picture. With the account creations date in place the entire theory fell apart (at least for me). I thinked about you being an alt just to get this over with, because altough at the beggining it was fresh Having a discusion that wasnt about crystal fucking music I grew bored and my brain just said "it is an alt, just forget it" And didnt thought of the consequences. Again hope this doesnt have any sequels and hope you do not hate me for spreading this lie.[/quote:3bxhj5x5]

Don’t worry man, I have nothing against you. I’m glad you were able to understand the truth.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":1t4wfsd6][quote="Renji Asuka":1t4wfsd6]Still an alt of yours [/quote:1t4wfsd6]

Ahh Renji, another ignorant individual whose head I happen to reside rent free as well. Thank you for your patronage! [/quote:1t4wfsd6]
Those words don't mean what you think they mean.

Un-beginer Dark Cyborg

[quote="d1234":dvfmhch0]Un-beginer Dark Cyborg[/quote:dvfmhch0]
Perma-beginner CrystalMusic

[quote="greg503":2ccam7w6][quote="d1234":2ccam7w6]Un-beginer Dark Cyborg[/quote:2ccam7w6]
Perma-beginner CrystalMusic[/quote:2ccam7w6]
That is a petty concern compared to this great injustice

Oh also Crystal music will probably be punished eventually...
Probably for the 1 thing he didn’t do.

[quote="d1234":x6nz8ksn]Oh also Crystal music will probably be punished eventually...
Probably for the 1 thing he didn’t do.[/quote:x6nz8ksn]
He HAS been punished before

How is this discussion still going on

Beasts being beasts. . .

[quote="Lil Oldman":tsz9xo6z]Beasts being beasts. . .[/quote:tsz9xo6z]
You do know that that is just another of my alts, right, I was criticizing YOU.