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Hello, my name is Dark Cyborg and I have been banned from rated for "boosting". So a friend (his account is Rusty Bardiche) of mine went on another account on my computer while I wasn't around and tried to tank his rating to 69 (which he was unable to do). It sounds stupid, I know, but as a result, he was banned from rated. I understand the repercussions involving that account, however, a few days later I was network banned from rated on my main account Dark Cyborg, where I would often play rated to improve my dueling skills. It is important to note that there had not been any duels between the tanking account and my main account, hence confirming that I didn't boost rating on the Dark Cyborg account. After talking to a judge, it was brought to my attention I am responsible for whatever happens on my network and that although I was not the beneficiary of boosting, several random accounts, that I had no affiliation to, were. It is unfortunate because I did not know there lied a concept of boosting rating. I only go on rated to become a better duelist and improve skills. My friend on the other hand only did this as a joke and did not know the repercussions associated with doing this. I am sorry for the actions of my friend and his mistakes will not be repeated ever again. I would be grateful if higher management to reconsider their decision regarding my account Dark Cyborg.

There is no proof of your claims, valid as they may be. It was even on the same computer.

You can check my dueling records to see if I had dueled an account called "Rusty Bardiche". Also, I apologize for posting the same thing twice, I tried to delete the other, but I was unable to. I'm rather new to this forum. Yes, you are right it was on the same computer.

Perhaps, I can prove that I do not belong to that beginner status with my skills.

Being set to beginner does not always connote a lack of skills. There is a punishment for negative boosting. That is beginner status.

However, this account isn't a beneficiary of boosting. Duel records can confirm this. Other individuals on the site can vouch for me as well. I can understand a temporary ban for what had happened, however, a permanent ban for a harmless act in which this account did not even benefit from is absolutely unfair. Again, I ask for a reconsideration of the repercussions imposed on me.

boosting is not harmless it unfairly affects the booster and everyone they come across. we would not allow such users to be in ranked.

I do understand that but I did not boost for my personal gain and the random individuals that had faced the other account would have received extremely negligible boosts. As I had mentioned earlier, the activity on the other account was unjust, but it doesn't warrant a permanent ban. A temporary ban would be more justified in this situation since there was no boosting of my personal accounts or accounts of friends. I understand the rules that have been placed for acts such as these, however, I believe there should be a reconsideration of the consequences unloaded on to me. Please keep in mind, the idea behind tanking rating from my friend's account was purely for shits and giggles.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":3qltsmxq]I do understand that but I did not boost for my personal gain and the random individuals that had faced the other account would have received extremely negligible boosts. As I had mentioned earlier, the activity on the other account was unjust, but it doesn't warrant a permanent ban. A temporary ban would be more justified in this situation since there was no boosting of my personal accounts or accounts of friends. I understand the rules that have been placed for acts such as these, however, I believe there should be a reconsideration of the consequences unloaded on to me. Please keep in mind, the idea behind tanking rating from my friend's account was purely for shits and giggles.[/quote:3qltsmxq]
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU BOOST FOR PERSONAL GAIN OR NOT YOU BOOSTED END OF STORY.

I did not boost my rating though. I tanked it, there is clearly a difference between the two concepts. Feel free to google the definitions.

There is boosting and negative boosting. Both are considered boosting

[quote="Dark Cyborg":11s5pd4i]I did not boost my rating though. I tanked it, there is clearly a difference between the two concepts. Feel free to google the definitions.[/quote:11s5pd4i]
DOES NOT MATTER IT IS STILL CLASSIFIED AS BOOSTING.

Nope. It is not classified as boosting. There is a clear difference between the two and what happened in my situation is not classified under boosting in the rules.

I can give you a word of warning. If you continue to spam the forums about this issue, which has already been answered, the Head Admins of DB may decide to enact a super ban instead. Just take it and move on.

I am not spamming. I am simply answering the responses in my thread, which is very normal in a forum. Also, I don't see why I should back down to the unfair consequences being imposed on me.

Rated is the marquee feature of this website, and permanently restricting me from playing in it is absolutely asinine. A permanent IP ban is completely unfair. There are several rules on this website (far worse than what I have done) that are let off easy with a temporary ban.

You do realize you were already given an answer by a mod, on top of that, you made at least 2 threads on this topic. At this point, whining about your ban is spam.

Boosting is a permaban from rated because people should not manipulate their rating for any reason, as it is important to matchmaking and leaderboard bragging.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":2saby1w8]Nope. It is not classified as boosting. There is a clear difference between the two and what happened in my situation is not classified under boosting in the rules.[/quote:2saby1w8]they are both 100% boosting and not tolerated EVER.

"leaderboard bragging" lol. I did not tank my rating to brag.

As long as there are responses in my thread, I am allowed to respond. I made the other thread by mistake which I acknowledged earlier in the thread.

[quote="Genexwrecker":sw5aidg0][quote="Dark Cyborg":sw5aidg0]Nope. It is not classified as boosting. There is a clear difference between the two and what happened in my situation is not classified under boosting in the rules.[/quote:sw5aidg0]they are both 100% boosting and not tolerated EVER.[/quote:sw5aidg0]

I tanked my rating without boosting the rating of my own account. And, I also tanked my rating without manipulating the duelist pool algorithm. Both can be proved by duelist records. I don't see how this is boosting if I did not violate either of these rules.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":p1wtmlzd]
I tanked my rating .[/quote:p1wtmlzd]
this is boosting end of story multiple of us judges have told you this.

Nothing in the db rules says it is.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":2kjnalfm]Nothing in the db rules says it is.[/quote:2kjnalfm]
Does NOT MATTER.

I guess we need to add "/Negative boosting" to that box in the DB rules and something like "manipulating your rating outside of playing legitimately" because it is still against the rules

[quote="Dark Cyborg":2nlgptgs]Nothing in the db rules says it is.[/quote:2nlgptgs]
The things in the rules stated are examples of but not limited to things that are not acceptable. If we listed literally every example of something under X rule you could do wrong that rules page would be a nice 50 pages. generally if its something not normal you probably shouldnt be doing it.

If you would like to impose your rules then clearly state them properly in the rulebook. This is why receiving a permanent punishment for something that is not even clearly stated in the rules is absolutely ludicrous. Also, it is not my problem that the db management didn't state each possible scenario in which this violation could occur. Like I said earlier, the act was done purely as a joke and has no harmful intentions; why something like this would receive a permanent ban is beyond me. So once again I will re-iterate, banning me without stating in the rulebook that said rules exist absolutely unfair.

P.S. the words negative and boosting contradict each other lol

The law does not state that killing a person with a clown nose and then doing 5 backwords flips before killing 3 more people is illegal but its fair to assume that they all fall under the murder clause. Just because we dont outline every single possibility doesnt mean you should be trying to use it as an excuse for behavior.

Boosting occurred
it was penalized
nothing more to this.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":3vo1gen2]P.S. the words negative and boosting contradict each other lol[/quote:3vo1gen2]
No, in both cases you aren't playing rated in a legitimate way. Thus, punishment occurred.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":3a399oj4][quote="Genexwrecker":3a399oj4][quote="Dark Cyborg":3a399oj4]Nope. It is not classified as boosting. There is a clear difference between the two and what happened in my situation is not classified under boosting in the rules.[/quote:3a399oj4]they are both 100% boosting and not tolerated EVER.[/quote:3a399oj4]

I tanked my rating without boosting the rating of my own account. And, I also tanked my rating without manipulating the duelist pool algorithm. Both can be proved by duelist records. I don't see how this is boosting if I did not violate either of these rules.[/quote:3a399oj4]

Acceleretion is considered as such both going forward or backwards, thats the same deal with boosting. Just that 1 is called deacceleration and the other just acceleration.

If you google the term the boosting, you receive a definition in which an individual attempts to increase his or herself in some way. What had happened in my situation is an antonym of boosting, meaning the exact opposite. Also, the word boost isn’t identified with positive or negative connotations. Hence, the interpretation of my situation as “negative boosting” is a false narrative.

[quote="Genexwrecker":mlox2q0t]The law does not state that killing a person with a clown nose and then doing 5 backwords flips before killing 3 more people is illegal but its fair to assume that they all fall under the murder clause. Just because we dont outline every single possibility doesnt mean you should be trying to use it as an excuse for behavior.

Boosting occurred
it was penalized
nothing more to this.[/quote:mlox2q0t]


If you are comparing boosting to killing a person then this little comparison absolutely false and extreme. Boosting with the intention of gaining unfair advantage in the rated pool and tanking with sole purpose of receiving the lowest possible rating as a joke (w/o gaining any rating advantage) are two separate concepts, as both are exact opposites of each other. So they clearly do not fall under the same clause.

Therefore, to compare my situation to committing a few backflips before killing a person with boosting considered as the norm of killing a person is utterly ridiculous. My situation isn’t even in the same breadth of boosting or killing as you prefer to call it.

The purpose of the extreme comparison is that not everything is labeled under x thing. Thinking that just because Xa thing is not definitively listed under X category makes it acceptable is absurd

The issue you present isn't listed under "x thing" since they are two completely different topics, making it not absurd but rather the reality.

We are done here

Dark Cyborg, if you keep it up, you're more likely to get banned permanently. Just take the L man.

[quote="Genexwrecker":7lr2kmid]We are done here[/quote:7lr2kmid]

My final post:

This is a bad look, every time I present a valid argument all of you attempt condemn in a mob mentality like manner. If there is some disappointment with my actions, why should I receive a permanent ban as opposed to a temporary one. There are several violations in the rulebook that are much worse than my situation (keep in mind, I did not even violate a rule according to the rulebook) and receive extremely light consequences when compared to mine. There is a clearly a flaw within your rulebook and structure that I have put notice on and will continue to do so.

There was another user just like you, who spammed the important part of the forums explaining how the punishment was unfair etc. He got banned because he was clogging up the forums and honestly wasting everyone's time. Please dont make his mistake. Just continue on and behave and eventually things will change.

Since there are responses to my thread post, I am simply responding back to them. Calling this spam is extremely inaccurate since there is a back and forth conversation between me and others. This very typical in a forum.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":2yzc4zb2][quote="Genexwrecker":2yzc4zb2]We are done here[/quote:2yzc4zb2]

My final post:

This is a bad look, every time I present a valid argument all of you attempt condemn in a mob mentality like manner. If there is some disappointment with my actions, why should I receive a permanent ban as opposed to a temporary one. There are several violations in the rulebook that are much worse than my situation (keep in mind, I did not even violate a rule according to the rulebook) and receive extremely light consequences when compared to mine. There is a clearly a flaw within your rulebook and structure that I have put notice on and will continue to do so.[/quote:2yzc4zb2]
No, it isn't a bad look. You broke the rules, you got punished. You then tried to spin it in a way through technicalities that you didn't do anything wrong and you were called out. You even admitted to boosting in the OP.

I took the liberty of looking into the rules and I found the following:
Boosting
Using multiple accounts, friends or other resources to gain illegitimate wins:
- Using a proxy to play against yourself in a rated game.
- Abusing the duelist pool algorithm in order to play against certain duelists.
- Continuously admitting defeat in order to gain experience illegitimately.
Stats Reset & Permanent Beginner Status

So technically the term "Boosting" actually allows for negative boost, but the rules also states:
Offenses are not limited to examples given in italics

So in my opinion the rule book should say something along the lines of:

Using multiple accounts, friends or other recourses in order to manipulate stats from the player or others.

So it actually does not allow for negative boosting.

Boosting, as a concept, is collaborative in nature. All parties involved knew what they were doing (if your description of events is to be believed), so it is essential that all parties involved be punished equally, regardless of who benefitted from it.

I wonder what your "friend" thinks of you for throwing him under the bus so nonchalantly. "I'm sorry for my friend's actions..."

However, no one benefitted from it. And, according to your boosting rules, I hadn't violated any of them. Therefore, it is not essential to ban "all parties involved".

Thanks for inquiring about my friend, he is feeling disappointed that he got my account network banned from Rated. This is why he understands the reason behind me including his account in this conversation as I try to seek justice for my punishment. If you would like to understand my friend's feelings more exclusively feel free to dm him. I'm sure he can provide you with much-needed insight regarding your worries about him.

Well of course no one benefited from it. Y'all were caught before you could capitalize on it.
And yes, it is extremely important to punish all parties involved in a boosting ring, including the sandbaggers.
As for the discussion on negative boosting, I'll defer to Genex as well as the general consensus.
Finally, unless you can prove that it wasn't you on the account at the time, I have no reason to believe your story.

There was nothing to benefit from in the first place. It was done as a joke on the part of my friend. He nor I did not attempt to gain any advantage whatsoever. Go ahead and dm Rusty Bardiche since you are very heavily invested in him.

No, I am not interested in pm'ing your alt.

You can contact me at Dark Cyborg and my friend at Rusty Bardiche.

[quote="troglyte":1d5j8a2c]W
Finally, unless you can prove that it wasn't you on the account at the time, I have no reason to believe your story.[/quote:1d5j8a2c]
It doesnt matter if it was him on the account or not

My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.

[quote="d1234":1rka2cvg]My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.[/quote:1rka2cvg]
We are giving him a chance he isnt banned from the site the accounts are just set to beginner. that is a second chance if i ever saw one and he is currently blowing it.

[quote="d1234":2u5hj9su]My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.[/quote:2u5hj9su]


This

Unrated will serve your wants of playing for skill just fine

[quote="greg503":35jpikks]Unrated will serve your wants of playing for skill just fine[/quote:35jpikks]

This is absolutely false.

Everyone deserves a second chance.

[quote="d1234":19b7ny4j]Everyone deserves a second chance.[/quote:19b7ny4j]

Thank you for sticking up for me!

Almost every punishment on the rulebook is given a second chance. However, I do not get a chance which is ridiculous considering the violation I'm being accused of is not even defined in the rulebook.

Also, it DEFINITELY is not boosting. The implied definition of boost is to increase or raise, therefore boosting is increasing or raising so technically it isn’t boosting. Also, how the rules describe boosting is, “Using multiple accounts, friends, or other resources to GAIN illegitimate wins” if he isn’t gaining it isn’t a violation of his.

[quote="d1234":2hrm694x]Also, it DEFINITELY is not boosting. The implied definition of boost is to increase or raise, therefore boosting is increasing or raising so technically it isn’t boosting. Also, how the rules describe boosting is, “Using multiple accounts, friends, or other resources to GAIN illegitimate wins” if he isn’t gaining it isn’t a violation of his.[/quote:2hrm694x]
Boosting is any form of trying abuse the algorithm to climb the rankings or artificially inflate the stats intentionally losing or admitting defeat repeatedly falls under this.

You can’t argue with a dictionary.

Also, it says intentionally loosing or admitting defeat TO GAIN EXPERIENCE

If he isn’t trying to gain experience it doesn’t count.

I have to side on d1234 on this, the rules state only positive boosting is punished. Not the other way around.

[quote="Genexwrecker":govpv4gz][quote="d1234":govpv4gz]My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.[/quote:govpv4gz]
We are giving him a chance he isnt banned from the site the accounts are just set to beginner. that is a second chance if i ever saw one and he is currently blowing it.[/quote:govpv4gz]

The dictionary definition of second chance is opportunity after the first one. This is a fairly vague term and I think he should have a second chance to play rated

[quote="Lil Oldman":cgtu1x2w]I have to side on d1234 on this, the rules state only positive boosting is punished. Not the other way around.[/quote:cgtu1x2w]
Does not matter, it still affects players in a negative way.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2lrq725r][quote="Lil Oldman":2lrq725r]I have to side on d1234 on this, the rules state only positive boosting is punished. Not the other way around.[/quote:2lrq725r]
Does not matter, it still affects players in a negative way.[/quote:2lrq725r]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.

[quote="d1234":2z5x1r6e]My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.[/quote:2z5x1r6e]

When he said he liked this that implies that he has no intention of doing it again.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":13n1hvvb][quote="Renji Asuka":13n1hvvb][quote="Lil Oldman":13n1hvvb]I have to side on d1234 on this, the rules state only positive boosting is punished. Not the other way around.[/quote:13n1hvvb]
Does not matter, it still affects players in a negative way.[/quote:13n1hvvb]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.[/quote:13n1hvvb]
By de ranking you literally put yourself against worse players, which then you can beat them with ease. So stop lying. You're banned from rated, and you're going to stay being banned.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2v7pkolb][quote="Dark Cyborg":2v7pkolb][quote="Renji Asuka":2v7pkolb]
Does not matter, it still affects players in a negative way.[/quote:2v7pkolb]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.[/quote:2v7pkolb]
By de ranking you literally put yourself against worse players, which then you can beat them with ease. So stop lying. You're banned from rated, and you're going to stay being banned.[/quote:2v7pkolb]


I did not beat a single soul though lol. Duelist records prove this.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1gbisx4a][quote="Dark Cyborg":1gbisx4a][quote="Renji Asuka":1gbisx4a]
Does not matter, it still affects players in a negative way.[/quote:1gbisx4a]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.[/quote:1gbisx4a]
By de ranking you literally put yourself against worse players, which then you can beat them with ease. So stop lying. You're banned from rated, and you're going to stay being banned.[/quote:1gbisx4a]

You have nothing to ban him for. Read the rules.
As said by Fulton J Sheen,” The big print giveth the fine print taketh away,” I plan to use the fine print to take away the ban.

Thank you so much!!

[quote="Dark Cyborg":cknef783][quote="Renji Asuka":cknef783][quote="Dark Cyborg":cknef783]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.[/quote:cknef783]
By de ranking you literally put yourself against worse players, which then you can beat them with ease. So stop lying. You're banned from rated, and you're going to stay being banned.[/quote:cknef783]


I did not beat a single soul though lol. Duelist records prove this.[/quote:cknef783]
You missed the point, by deranking on purpose you are lowering your rank, which then puts you against lower ranked players in which case you can take advantage of them. There is NO reason to do what you did if that wasn't your goal. Get out of here with your bullshit.

I did not take advantage of any lower-ranked players as well lol. And it isn't bullshit when I'm providing straight up facts.

Deranking on purpose to duel low-ranked.... That sound like smurfing?

[quote="KTeknis":3ojdb996]Deranking on purpose to duel low-ranked.... That sound like smurfing?[/quote:3ojdb996]

I did not do that.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":19dotp0p][quote="KTeknis":19dotp0p]Deranking on purpose to duel low-ranked.... That sound like smurfing?[/quote:19dotp0p]

I did not do that.[/quote:19dotp0p]
You were working towards it.

I did not work towards that, you are now falsely accusing me.

I think the fact he's getting punished isn't necessarily the issue to be honest. If someone is breaking the rules non-maliciously surely there should be some leeway in stead of giving him the second worst punishment on the website. Looking at real life as an example manslaughter and murder are both actions that result in the death of someone but the manslaughter charge has the smaller punishment. Why? Because it was non-intentional and surely the same thing should apply in his case. I'm not a judge obviously but surely a temporary freeze on the account would be a better alternative than banning his account from reasonable play till the end of time.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":47jvtp0g]I did not work towards that, you are now falsely accusing me.[/quote:47jvtp0g]
It was intentional, you wouldn't be doing it otherwise.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3rjjh9tp][quote="Dark Cyborg":3rjjh9tp]I did not work towards that, you are now falsely accusing me.[/quote:3rjjh9tp]
It was intentional, you wouldn't be doing it otherwise.[/quote:3rjjh9tp]

What was intentional? Also, I thought you said my supposed goals and intentions don't matter lmao.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":3gyxos89][quote="Renji Asuka":3gyxos89][quote="Dark Cyborg":3gyxos89]I did not work towards that, you are now falsely accusing me.[/quote:3gyxos89]
It was intentional, you wouldn't be doing it otherwise.[/quote:3gyxos89]

What was intentional? Also, I thought you said my supposed goals and intentions don't matter lmao.[/quote:3gyxos89]
Yeah it doesn't matter why you did it, its the fact you did and you'll still be punished for it. But you can't convince anyone you were innocent.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3qswg836][quote="Dark Cyborg":3qswg836][quote="Renji Asuka":3qswg836]
Does not matter, it still affects players in a negative way.[/quote:3qswg836]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.[/quote:3qswg836]
By de ranking you literally put yourself against worse players, which then you can beat them with ease. So stop lying. You're banned from rated, and you're going to stay being banned.[/quote:3qswg836]

I've read this so many times and it makes no sense. He never won one game so how could he be trying to verse easy opponents. Also so brown nosing bruh; I can send a job application if u want

This isn’t a debate I stated what boosting is on the site and it will be and is penalized.

You may have stated your interpretation, however, that is not listed as a violation of boosting in the db rulebook. There is no reason to be punished this severely for something that is not even stated in the public rulebook, which is obviously the primary source of reference for all players/users.

YGOScope allow people to search a DB user and List it's last 20 matches. This is Dark Cyborg's data, and it seems that the problematic duel is from his duel with asferafin? It even list replays. https://www.ygoscope.com/playerProfile? ... ark+Cyborg

Wow, it's almost like breaking the rules gets a penalty or something.

[quote="kijani":2hjuxbev][quote="Renji Asuka":2hjuxbev][quote="Dark Cyborg":2hjuxbev]

Literally, no player but me is being affected in a negative way.[/quote:2hjuxbev]
By de ranking you literally put yourself against worse players, which then you can beat them with ease. So stop lying. You're banned from rated, and you're going to stay being banned.[/quote:2hjuxbev]

I've read this so many times and it makes no sense. He never won one game so how could he be trying to verse easy opponents. Also so brown nosing bruh; I can send a job application if u want[/quote:2hjuxbev]
Heaven forbid I don't tolerate people who break the rules then don't want to be punished for it, or even tries to fight against it acting like it isn't harmful. Sorry I don't support Criminals.

[quote="Genexwrecker":3fyhk8kz]This isn’t a debate I stated what boosting is on the site and it will be and is penalized.[/quote:3fyhk8kz]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting

The rules say so

[quote="Wek":3s01ulg8]Wow, it's almost like breaking the rules gets a penalty or something. [/quote:3s01ulg8]

I’ve said it so much, it isn’t boosting.
Read the rules.

[quote="d1234":3sn0ylka][quote="Genexwrecker":3sn0ylka]This isn’t a debate I stated what boosting is on the site and it will be and is penalized.[/quote:3sn0ylka]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting[/quote:3sn0ylka]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.

[quote="d1234":3n3bxb2l][quote="Wek":3n3bxb2l]Wow, it's almost like breaking the rules gets a penalty or something. [/quote:3n3bxb2l]

I’ve said it so much, it isn’t boosting.
Read the rules.[/quote:3n3bxb2l]


Why yes, reading the rules is a very good idea. It is too bad the OP did not bother to.

Who would have thought randomly giving people free rating was a bad idea.
Or trying to abuse the system in order to set a rating to a certain number without playing proper games for it would be considered a problem when the rating platform was for playing the game in the first place.

DB: " y u gotta be doin this dumb stuff 2 us, leave it alone"

[quote="Genexwrecker":2xl0d79c][quote="d1234":2xl0d79c][quote="Genexwrecker":2xl0d79c]This isn’t a debate I stated what boosting is on the site and it will be and is penalized.[/quote:2xl0d79c]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting[/quote:2xl0d79c]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:2xl0d79c]

So you are saying you are allowed to abuse your authority and ignore the foundational framework in which the site is built on?

You can ask other judges but I think they'll side with Genex on this one.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":1w6wcd6v][quote="Genexwrecker":1w6wcd6v][quote="d1234":1w6wcd6v]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting[/quote:1w6wcd6v]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:1w6wcd6v]

So you are saying you are allowed to abuse your authority and ignore the foundational framework in which the site is built on?[/quote:1w6wcd6v]

Dealing with rulebreakers and problem-causers is ignoring the foundational framework now, and abuse, apparently.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":1kxo0h3a][quote="Genexwrecker":1kxo0h3a][quote="d1234":1kxo0h3a]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting[/quote:1kxo0h3a]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:1kxo0h3a]

So you are saying you are allowed to abuse your authority and ignore the foundational framework in which the site is built on?[/quote:1kxo0h3a]
We have very clear laid out rules of what is and isnt acceptalbe and some examples of what said rules "might entail" it is up to us to determine if your actions should fall under X category using our judgment/opinion on the matter. Being able to make these judgment calls is why we are judges.

[quote="Genexwrecker":3bflzta5][quote="d1234":3bflzta5][quote="Genexwrecker":3bflzta5]This isn’t a debate I stated what boosting is on the site and it will be and is penalized.[/quote:3bflzta5]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting[/quote:3bflzta5]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:3bflzta5]

IF this would go to court you would loose, because the rules state gain, and also ‘boosting’ according to the English dictionary also means gain. And that is what matters in court, not what you say.

[quote="Wek":g2n706nt][quote="d1234":g2n706nt][quote="Wek":g2n706nt]Wow, it's almost like breaking the rules gets a penalty or something. [/quote:g2n706nt]

I’ve said it so much, it isn’t boosting.
Read the rules.[/quote:g2n706nt]


Why yes, reading the rules is a very good idea. It is too bad the OP did not bother to.

Who would have thought randomly giving people free rating was a bad idea.
Or trying to abuse the system in order to set a rating to a certain number without playing proper games for it would be considered a problem when the rating platform was for playing the game in the first place.

DB: " y u gotta be doin this dumb stuff 2 us, leave it alone"[/quote:g2n706nt]
IT IS NOT BOOSTING
BOOSTING MEANS GAIN, EVEN THE DEFINITION IN THE RULES

[quote="greg503":2h4yxetn]You can ask other judges but I think they'll side with Genex on this one.[/quote:2h4yxetn]

It doesn’t matter what they say. It matters what the rules say.

[quote="Wek":1tmemegp][quote="Dark Cyborg":1tmemegp][quote="Genexwrecker":1tmemegp]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:1tmemegp]

So you are saying you are allowed to abuse your authority and ignore the foundational framework in which the site is built on?[/quote:1tmemegp]

Dealing with rulebreakers and problem-causers is ignoring the foundational framework now, and abuse, apparently. [/quote:1tmemegp]

Not following your own rules when giving punishments is ignoring the framework.

[quote="Wek":1rh7rwp7][quote="d1234":1rh7rwp7][quote="Wek":1rh7rwp7]Wow, it's almost like breaking the rules gets a penalty or something. :o :roll:[/quote:1rh7rwp7]

I’ve said it so much, it isn’t boosting.
Read the rules.[/quote:1rh7rwp7]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Why yes, reading the rules is a very good idea. It is too bad the OP did not bother to.

Who would have thought randomly giving people free rating was a bad idea. :roll:
Or trying to abuse the system in order to set a rating to a certain number without playing proper games for it would be considered a problem when the rating platform was for playing the game in the first place. ;) :o

DB: " :| y u gotta be doin this dumb stuff 2 us, leave it alone"[/quote:1rh7rwp7]
Also, to show something I put up a status update saying to like it if you have read the rules.
No likes and the only comments were along the lies of ,”they have rules”
I’m not saying people shouldn’t read the rules but almost no one does.

But why, it did go to court. The OP broke the rules. The judges have read the rules and agreed the OP did indeed break them.

Not sure what you going in all caps mode is supposed to do, or why we should care about your status update or what trolls posted there.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":33ku7m1j]
My final post: [/quote:33ku7m1j]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so.

[quote="d1234":6r6i87aa][quote="Genexwrecker":6r6i87aa][quote="d1234":6r6i87aa]

You are wrong though it isn’t boosting[/quote:6r6i87aa]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:6r6i87aa]

IF this would go to court you would loose, because the rules state gain, and also ‘boosting’ according to the English dictionary also means gain. And that is what matters in court, not what you say.[/quote:6r6i87aa]
Wrong, if this was taken to court, the offender would NOT have a leg to stand on.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1e4yat4i][quote="d1234":1e4yat4i][quote="Genexwrecker":1e4yat4i]
It is literally up to me and other judges what boosting is not you guys. The rules include some examples but not limited to the things stated. We are also free to completely remove a user at any point from ranked if it is needed.[/quote:1e4yat4i]

IF this would go to court you would loose, because the rules state gain, and also ‘boosting’ according to the English dictionary also means gain. And that is what matters in court, not what you say.[/quote:1e4yat4i]
Wrong, if this was taken to court, the offender would NOT have a leg to stand on.[/quote:1e4yat4i]
IT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEGATIVE BOOSTING IN THE RULES, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
IN COURT NO ONE CARES WHAT THE RULES MEAN IT MATTERS WHAT THEY SAY.

[quote="Wek":5v1gf2mt]But why, it did go to court. The OP broke the rules. The judges have read the rules and agreed the OP did indeed break them.

Not sure what you going in all caps mode is supposed to do, or why we should care about your status update or what trolls posted there. [/quote:5v1gf2mt]
Then they are very wrong. Also, I had no idea Yu-Gi-Oh! judges are excellent grammarians.

[quote="Wek":63qtr17o][quote="Dark Cyborg":63qtr17o]
My final post: [/quote:63qtr17o]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so. [/quote:63qtr17o]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.

[quote="d1234":1jixphk1][quote="Wek":1jixphk1][quote="Dark Cyborg":1jixphk1]
My final post: [/quote:1jixphk1]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so. [/quote:1jixphk1]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.[/quote:1jixphk1]
And here we have it, the only reason this post is about 100 posts.

[quote="d1234":1brvzx4v][quote="Renji Asuka":1brvzx4v][quote="d1234":1brvzx4v]

IF this would go to court you would loose, because the rules state gain, and also ‘boosting’ according to the English dictionary also means gain. And that is what matters in court, not what you say.[/quote:1brvzx4v]
Wrong, if this was taken to court, the offender would NOT have a leg to stand on.[/quote:1brvzx4v]
IT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEGATIVE BOOSTING IN THE RULES, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
IN COURT NO ONE CARES WHAT THE RULES MEAN IT MATTERS WHAT THEY SAY.[/quote:1brvzx4v]
It DOES NOT NEED TO, the rules say THEY ARE NOT LIMITED TO.

A judge has made a decision, why is this not just an appeal?

[quote="d1234":cphk8k65][quote="Wek":cphk8k65][quote="Dark Cyborg":cphk8k65]
My final post: [/quote:cphk8k65]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so. [/quote:cphk8k65]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.[/quote:cphk8k65]

"Continuously admitting defeat in order to gain experience illegitimately."
Why, look at that, a boosting method that doesn't require you to gain wins! There's all sorts of basic stuff you can pull from this.

Continuously admitting defeat in order to gain a rating of 69 illegitimately. Seems pretty obvious what a basic reading of the rules could lead you to.

[quote="greg503":1t8xz4fz]A judge has made a decision, why is this not just an appeal?[/quote:1t8xz4fz]

Appeals are for people with grievances that want to follow the rules.
This is a troll thread for memes. It's just thrown in introductions so we can laugh at them.

Good lord, how long is this thread gonna go on for?

[quote="Wek":lq70l5cg][quote="d1234":lq70l5cg][quote="Wek":lq70l5cg]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so. [/quote:lq70l5cg]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.[/quote:lq70l5cg]

"Continuously admitting defeat in order to gain experience illegitimately."
Why, look at that, a boosting method that doesn't require you to gain wins! There's all sorts of basic stuff you can pull from this.

Continuously admitting defeat in order to gain a rating of 69 illegitimately. Seems pretty obvious what a basic reading of the rules could lead you to.[/quote:lq70l5cg]

To gain experience.

[quote="Darkraiclone":1unfdt05]Good lord, how long is this thread gonna go on for?[/quote:1unfdt05]

Who knows? This is just a troll thread anyways, the judges already said what happens. No one important is arguing otherwise, and I doubt any of them care what's going on in this thread either.

[quote="Wek":2vfyxd4m][quote="Darkraiclone":2vfyxd4m]Good lord, how long is this thread gonna go on for?[/quote:2vfyxd4m]

Who knows? This is just a troll thread anyways, the judges already said what happens. No one important is arguing otherwise, and I doubt any of them care what's going on in this thread either.[/quote:2vfyxd4m]
The judges should change their decision and this thread will go on until they do.

[quote="Genexwrecker":2mgk5097][quote="d1234":2mgk5097]My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.[/quote:2mgk5097]
We are giving him a chance he isnt banned from the site the accounts are just set to beginner. that is a second chance if i ever saw one and he is currently blowing it.[/quote:2mgk5097]

How is he blowing it if he's set to beginner and can't go in rated anymore?

[quote="d1234":2mgk5097][quote="Renji Asuka":2mgk5097][quote="d1234":2mgk5097]

IF this would go to court you would loose, because the rules state gain, and also ‘boosting’ according to the English dictionary also means gain. And that is what matters in court, not what you say.[/quote:2mgk5097]
Wrong, if this was taken to court, the offender would NOT have a leg to stand on.[/quote:2mgk5097]
IT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEGATIVE BOOSTING IN THE RULES, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
IN COURT NO ONE CARES WHAT THE RULES MEAN IT MATTERS WHAT THEY SAY.[/quote:2mgk5097]

[quote="d1234":2mgk5097][quote="Wek":2mgk5097][quote="Dark Cyborg":2mgk5097]
My final post: [/quote:2mgk5097]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so. [/quote:2mgk5097]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.[/quote:2mgk5097]

If you use your account to keep admitting defeat over and over so someone else gains experience, that's boosting, since you are gaining illegitimate wins for another player.

[quote="d1234":313pfcti][quote="Wek":313pfcti][quote="Darkraiclone":313pfcti]Good lord, how long is this thread gonna go on for?[/quote:313pfcti]

Who knows? This is just a troll thread anyways, the judges already said what happens. No one important is arguing otherwise, and I doubt any of them care what's going on in this thread either.[/quote:313pfcti]
The judges should change their decision and this thread will go on until they do.[/quote:313pfcti]


This thread can go on, sure, though it's not really a protest of any sort.
It's just showing how correct the judges are in hindsight even more.
After all, now they're just trolling here, instead of Duelingbook.
I imagine it's quite the rewarding experience to see further proof of how right one's actions are looking at even more evidence.

[quote="Wek":1ims8nma][quote="d1234":1ims8nma][quote="Wek":1ims8nma]

Who knows? This is just a troll thread anyways, the judges already said what happens. No one important is arguing otherwise, and I doubt any of them care what's going on in this thread either.[/quote:1ims8nma]
The judges should change their decision and this thread will go on until they do.[/quote:1ims8nma]


This thread can go on, sure, though it's not really a protest of any sort.
It's just showing how correct the judges are in hindsight even more.
After all, now they're just trolling here, instead of Duelingbook.
I imagine it's quite the rewarding experience to see further proof of how right one's actions are looking at even more evidence.[/quote:1ims8nma]
The Judges are 100% incorrect.
The rules say only positive boosting.

[quote="Christen57":2d4vtyci][quote="Genexwrecker":2d4vtyci][quote="d1234":2d4vtyci]My opinion on the matter is that you should unban him, and give him another chance, and if something happens again make the penalty worse and put it back on.[/quote:2d4vtyci]
We are giving him a chance he isnt banned from the site the accounts are just set to beginner. that is a second chance if i ever saw one and he is currently blowing it.[/quote:2d4vtyci]

How is he blowing it if he's set to beginner and can't go in rated anymore?

[quote="d1234":2d4vtyci][quote="Renji Asuka":2d4vtyci]
Wrong, if this was taken to court, the offender would NOT have a leg to stand on.[/quote:2d4vtyci]
IT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEGATIVE BOOSTING IN THE RULES, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
IN COURT NO ONE CARES WHAT THE RULES MEAN IT MATTERS WHAT THEY SAY.[/quote:2d4vtyci]

[quote="d1234":2d4vtyci][quote="Wek":2d4vtyci]

This kind of trolling still cracks me up, smh. Final post by page 2, they say, I don't think so. [/quote:2d4vtyci]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.[/quote:2d4vtyci]

If you use your account to keep admitting defeat over and over so someone else gains experience, that's boosting, since you are gaining illegitimate wins for another player.[/quote:2d4vtyci]
The rules say, “Using friends, multiple accounts, or other resources to gain illegitimate wins.”
He was not using any of those. He was being used.

[quote="d1234":fgt8bxvn][quote="Wek":fgt8bxvn][quote="d1234":fgt8bxvn]
The judges should change their decision and this thread will go on until they do.[/quote:fgt8bxvn]


This thread can go on, sure, though it's not really a protest of any sort.
It's just showing how correct the judges are in hindsight even more.
After all, now they're just trolling here, instead of Duelingbook.
I imagine it's quite the rewarding experience to see further proof of how right one's actions are looking at even more evidence.[/quote:fgt8bxvn]
The Judges are 100% incorrect.
The rules say only positive boosting.[/quote:fgt8bxvn]


Anyways, I've had my laugh, some users are so stupid that they managed to get punished on a site that tries as hard as they do to not penalize people. But they still find a way to mess up so badly the judges are pretty much forced to do something.

You got to feel sorry for these poor judges, having to deal with such nonsense.

I'd be surprised if I ended up posting in this thread again, there's only so long I want to read you making more stuff up. It's amusing for a bit, but it's grown old for me now. You need new trolling material, or people will get bored with you. At least I have.

Anyways, been a laugh while it lasted.

[quote="d1234":3f2xv3zy][quote="Christen57":3f2xv3zy][quote="Genexwrecker":3f2xv3zy]
We are giving him a chance he isnt banned from the site the accounts are just set to beginner. that is a second chance if i ever saw one and he is currently blowing it.[/quote:3f2xv3zy]

How is he blowing it if he's set to beginner and can't go in rated anymore?

[quote="d1234":3f2xv3zy]
IT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NEGATIVE BOOSTING IN THE RULES, THAT IS WHAT MATTERS.
IN COURT NO ONE CARES WHAT THE RULES MEAN IT MATTERS WHAT THEY SAY.[/quote:3f2xv3zy]

[quote="d1234":3f2xv3zy]
That was of you would listen to sence the rules say, “ Using friends, multiple accounts or other resources to gain illegitimate wins”
Notice the word ‘gain’.[/quote:3f2xv3zy]

If you use your account to keep admitting defeat over and over so someone else gains experience, that's boosting, since you are gaining illegitimate wins for another player.[/quote:3f2xv3zy]
The rules say, “Using friends, multiple accounts, or other resources to gain illegitimate wins.”
He was not using any of those. He was being used.[/quote:3f2xv3zy]

Why is he letting strangers use his account?

[quote="d1234":3f2xv3zy]The word ‘boost’ means positive. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boost?s=t[/quote:3f2xv3zy]

No, if you actually read that page you're linking, you'll see it says that boosting means "to lift or raise by pushing from behind or below," "to advance or aid by speaking well of" and "to increase; raise".

So if you or someone else uses your account "to life or raise" a player's rating/experience illegitimately, that's boosting.

[quote="Wek":fxr3be9g][quote="d1234":fxr3be9g][quote="Wek":fxr3be9g]


This thread can go on, sure, though it's not really a protest of any sort.
It's just showing how correct the judges are in hindsight even more.
After all, now they're just trolling here, instead of Duelingbook.
I imagine it's quite the rewarding experience to see further proof of how right one's actions are looking at even more evidence.[/quote:fxr3be9g]
The Judges are 100% incorrect.
The rules say only positive boosting.[/quote:fxr3be9g]


Anyways, I've had my laugh, some users are so stupid that they managed to get punished on a site that tries as hard as they do to not penalize people. But they still find a way to mess up so badly the judges are pretty much forced to do something.

You got to feel sorry for these poor judges, having to deal with such nonsense.

I'd be surprised if I ended up posting in this thread again, there's only so long I want to read you making more stuff up. It's amusing for a bit, but it's grown old for me now. You need new trolling material, or people will get bored with you. At least I have.

Anyways, been a laugh while it lasted. [/quote:fxr3be9g]

A. I don’t feel sorry for the judges at all, they are wrong
B. Good riddance
C. The oops face was entirely uncalled for as neither Dark Cyborg or I have done anything wrong

[quote="Christen57":23n3clj0][quote="d1234":23n3clj0][quote="Christen57":23n3clj0]

How is he blowing it if he's set to beginner and can't go in rated anymore?





If you use your account to keep admitting defeat over and over so someone else gains experience, that's boosting, since you are gaining illegitimate wins for another player.[/quote:23n3clj0]
The rules say, “Using friends, multiple accounts, or other resources to gain illegitimate wins.”
He was not using any of those. He was being used.[/quote:23n3clj0]

Why is he letting strangers use his account?

[quote="d1234":23n3clj0]The word ‘boost’ means positive. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boost?s=t[/quote:23n3clj0]

No, if you actually read that page you're linking, you'll see it says that boosting means "to lift or raise by pushing from behind or below," "to advance or aid by speaking well of" and "to increase; raise".

So if you or someone else uses your account "to life or raise" a player's rating/experience illegitimately, that's boosting.[/quote:23n3clj0]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.

[quote="d1234":1bkhpeeg][quote="Christen57":1bkhpeeg][quote="d1234":1bkhpeeg]
The rules say, “Using friends, multiple accounts, or other resources to gain illegitimate wins.”
He was not using any of those. He was being used.[/quote:1bkhpeeg]

Why is he letting strangers use his account?

[quote="d1234":1bkhpeeg]The word ‘boost’ means positive. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boost?s=t[/quote:1bkhpeeg]

No, if you actually read that page you're linking, you'll see it says that boosting means "to lift or raise by pushing from behind or below," "to advance or aid by speaking well of" and "to increase; raise".

So if you or someone else uses your account "to life or raise" a player's rating/experience illegitimately, that's boosting.[/quote:1bkhpeeg]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.[/quote:1bkhpeeg]
Doesn't matter, the Judges punished him and will maintain such punishment. You can't do anything about it, so suck it up buttercup.

[quote="Renji Asuka":6pmuqp1r][quote="d1234":6pmuqp1r][quote="Christen57":6pmuqp1r]

Why is he letting strangers use his account?



No, if you actually read that page you're linking, you'll see it says that boosting means "to lift or raise by pushing from behind or below," "to advance or aid by speaking well of" and "to increase; raise".

So if you or someone else uses your account "to life or raise" a player's rating/experience illegitimately, that's boosting.[/quote:6pmuqp1r]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.[/quote:6pmuqp1r]
Doesn't matter, the Judges punished him and will maintain such punishment. You can't do anything about it, so suck it up buttercup.[/quote:6pmuqp1r]
Sorry, but the judges are wrong, and I won’t give up until something changes

[quote="d1234":loopcycc][quote="Renji Asuka":loopcycc][quote="d1234":loopcycc]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.[/quote:loopcycc]
Doesn't matter, the Judges punished him and will maintain such punishment. You can't do anything about it, so suck it up buttercup.[/quote:loopcycc]
Sorry, but the judges are wrong, and I won’t give up until something changes[/quote:loopcycc]
If the judges were wrong, it would had been reversed already. Nice try though.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1zi67ek1][quote="d1234":1zi67ek1][quote="Renji Asuka":1zi67ek1]
Doesn't matter, the Judges punished him and will maintain such punishment. You can't do anything about it, so suck it up buttercup.[/quote:1zi67ek1]
Sorry, but the judges are wrong, and I won’t give up until something changes[/quote:1zi67ek1]
If the judges were wrong, it would had been reversed already. Nice try though.[/quote:1zi67ek1]
They are wrong.

We treated the boosting appropriately. We gave him a second chance by just setting the accounts to beginner as stated in the op. If they had been civilized and handled this maturely we might be more lenient but they were not so that opportunity was blown. Wether or not some of you agree with it is not what matters an infraction occurred and it was dealt with accordingly.

[quote="Genexwrecker":bukn0m7s]We treated the boosting appropriately. We gave him a second chance by just setting the accounts to beginner as stated in the op. If they had been civilized and handled this maturely we might be more lenient but they were not so that opportunity was blown. Wether or not some of you agree with it is not what matters an infraction occurred and it was dealt with accordingly.[/quote:bukn0m7s]
I won’t stop posting until it changes.

[quote="d1234":3az5rlar][quote="Christen57":3az5rlar][quote="d1234":3az5rlar]
The rules say, “Using friends, multiple accounts, or other resources to gain illegitimate wins.”
He was not using any of those. He was being used.[/quote:3az5rlar]

Why is he letting strangers use his account?

[quote="d1234":3az5rlar]The word ‘boost’ means positive. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/boost?s=t[/quote:3az5rlar]

No, if you actually read that page you're linking, you'll see it says that boosting means "to lift or raise by pushing from behind or below," "to advance or aid by speaking well of" and "to increase; raise".

So if you or someone else uses your account "to life or raise" a player's rating/experience illegitimately, that's boosting.[/quote:3az5rlar]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.[/quote:3az5rlar]

Okay well if you want to go with definition #3 then the guy boosted since he allowed someone to use his network/account "to increase and raise" rating/experience.

[quote="Christen57":3ifl3f9t][quote="d1234":3ifl3f9t][quote="Christen57":3ifl3f9t]

Why is he letting strangers use his account?



No, if you actually read that page you're linking, you'll see it says that boosting means "to lift or raise by pushing from behind or below," "to advance or aid by speaking well of" and "to increase; raise".

So if you or someone else uses your account "to life or raise" a player's rating/experience illegitimately, that's boosting.[/quote:3ifl3f9t]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.[/quote:3ifl3f9t]

Okay well if you want to go with definition #3 then the guy boosted since he allowed someone to use his network/account "to increase and raise" rating/experience.[/quote:3ifl3f9t]
USING multiple accounts..
The word using makes it so that only the person who gains is guilty of boosting.

[quote="d1234":39oyzvq4][quote="Christen57":39oyzvq4][quote="d1234":39oyzvq4]
No, because the way it is being used is as a verb, so that leaves,
1. “To lift or raise from pushing from behind or below,” which is physical only, so no
2. “To advance or aid by speaking well of,” not right either
3. “To increase or raise’” this is the only one that fits and it is positive only.[/quote:39oyzvq4]

Okay well if you want to go with definition #3 then the guy boosted since he allowed someone to use his network/account "to increase and raise" rating/experience.[/quote:39oyzvq4]
USING multiple accounts..
The word using makes it so that only the person who gains is guilty of boosting.[/quote:39oyzvq4]

Using multiple accounts, friends or other resources to gain illegitimate wins:
- Using a proxy to play against yourself in a rated game.
- Abusing the duelist pool algorithm in order to play against certain duelists.
- Continuously admitting defeat in order to gain experience illegitimately.

This is what the rules say about boosting. You can't continuously admit defeat in order to gain experience illegitimately. When you admit defeat, your rating goes down while your experience still goes up a little, so you are gaining by boosting — illegitimate experience.

You do not need access to multiple accounts either to boost.

[quote="d1234":1m3nqpfs][quote="Genexwrecker":1m3nqpfs]We treated the boosting appropriately. We gave him a second chance by just setting the accounts to beginner as stated in the op. If they had been civilized and handled this maturely we might be more lenient but they were not so that opportunity was blown. Wether or not some of you agree with it is not what matters an infraction occurred and it was dealt with accordingly.[/quote:1m3nqpfs]
I won’t stop posting until it changes.[/quote:1m3nqpfs]


Not that hard, the punishment isn't going to change, you obviously don't know these 2 bullet points or refuse to understand them. At this point, I'm surprised the admins haven't banned you for the crap you're pulling. And FYI, this site IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

[quote="Renji Asuka":14qkdvnq][quote="d1234":14qkdvnq][quote="Genexwrecker":14qkdvnq]We treated the boosting appropriately. We gave him a second chance by just setting the accounts to beginner as stated in the op. If they had been civilized and handled this maturely we might be more lenient but they were not so that opportunity was blown. Wether or not some of you agree with it is not what matters an infraction occurred and it was dealt with accordingly.[/quote:14qkdvnq]
I won’t stop posting until it changes.[/quote:14qkdvnq]


Not that hard, the punishment isn't going to change, you obviously don't know these 2 bullet points or refuse to understand them. At this point, I'm surprised the admins haven't banned you for the crap you're pulling. And FYI, this site IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.[/quote:14qkdvnq]
A. I have read those and completely understand them
B. The first, nothing that is against the rules happened on the account Dark Cyborg
C. The second, they may not be limited to the italicized print, but they are limited by the green non-italicized print

[quote="d1234":1830o8kd][quote="Renji Asuka":1830o8kd][quote="d1234":1830o8kd]
I won’t stop posting until it changes.[/quote:1830o8kd]


Not that hard, the punishment isn't going to change, you obviously don't know these 2 bullet points or refuse to understand them. At this point, I'm surprised the admins haven't banned you for the crap you're pulling. And FYI, this site IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.[/quote:1830o8kd]
A. I have read those and completely understand them
B. The first, nothing that is against the rules happened on the account Dark Cyborg
C. The second, they may not be limited to the italicized print, but they are limited by the green non-italicized print[/quote:1830o8kd]

You still won't read it fully. It says you are responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your account and/or network.

Notice where it says "and/or network". That means you can also be held responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your network, not just on your account.

There was rule-breaking going on on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rule-breaking was boosting.

Boosting involves repeatedly admitting defeat to gain experience illegitimately, which is what happened on Dark Cyborg's network, and Dark Cyborg himself admitted this, saying, and I quote, "a friend (his account is Rusty Bardiche) of mine went on another account on my computer while I wasn't around and tried to tank his rating to 69".

Someone admitted defeat repeatedly to gain experience illegitimately on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rules prohibit "Using multiple accounts, friends or other resources to gain illegitimate wins" which is exactly what happened. Someone went on Dark Cyborg's network and used an account, which is a resource, to gain illegitimate wins for other players by trying "to tank" their own rating.

Do you and Dark Cyborg still not understand this?

[quote="KTeknis":1wsqs7fi]YGOScope allow people to search a DB user and List it's last 20 matches. This is Dark Cyborg's data, and it seems that the problematic duel is from his duel with asferafin? It even list replays. https://www.ygoscope.com/playerProfile? ... ark+Cyborg[/quote:1wsqs7fi]

You gotta save that, so it doesn't get lost and can be used as evidence. https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=22954142

My final post:
A. This will actually be my last post on this subject
B. I still think it isn’t boosting
C. I am mostly doing this because Dark Cyborg hasn’t posted in 5 days
D. I just saw the farewell post by Genexwrecker, if I had seen this earlier I would have messaged
a different judge.
E. I actually admire the way a lot of you have constructed your messages, especially Christian57
F. Looking back, I like quite a few of my earlier post as opposed to the later ones, and I think I
got a bit crazy (those face thing drive me nuts)
G. I am not answering your arguments because of the above reasons and nothing else

We did it bois, this thread is no more

[quote="d1234":1wrino59]I like quite a few of my earlier post as opposed to the later ones, and I think I
got a bit crazy (those face thing drive me nuts)[/quote:1wrino59]

What "face thing"?

I think he means:

[quote="Lil Oldman":3d04rorw]We did it bois, this thread is no more[/quote:3d04rorw]
Nothing to do with you or anyone else, except Dark Cyborg and myself.
In case you are wondering about post A in that last post I said on that subject.

[quote="d1234":3nphbl8d][quote="Renji Asuka":3nphbl8d][quote="d1234":3nphbl8d]
I won’t stop posting until it changes.[/quote:3nphbl8d]


Not that hard, the punishment isn't going to change, you obviously don't know these 2 bullet points or refuse to understand them. At this point, I'm surprised the admins haven't banned you for the crap you're pulling. And FYI, this site IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.[/quote:3nphbl8d]
A. I have read those and completely understand them
B. The first, nothing that is against the rules happened on the account Dark Cyborg
C. The second, they may not be limited to the italicized print, but they are limited by the green non-italicized print[/quote:3nphbl8d]
A. Obviously not.
B. Doesn't matter, it even includes NETWORK.
C. Doesn't matter if it doesn't list it specifically. There are rules that can be literally added and the examples listed is only SOME of the things you can get punished for. The rest is up to admin discretion.

We the admin team decide if any action requires x penalty.

[quote="d1234":rgwxviy3][quote="Lil Oldman":rgwxviy3]We did it bois, this thread is no more[/quote:rgwxviy3]
Nothing to do with you or anyone else, except Dark Cyborg and myself.
In case you are wondering about post A in that last post I said on that subject.[/quote:rgwxviy3]
Was just joking lmao, like the memes of "why are people homeless, just buy a house - We did it bois, homelessness is no more"

So, Dark Cyborg's friend "negative boosts" by continuously admitting defeat in rated. This is clearly not playing rated in a legitimate manner and should be punished by removing the offender from the rated pool as seen in DB rules. However, this occurred on Dark Cyborg's network, according to the start of DB's rules, he is also responsible, and has thus received the same punishment, end of story.

I tried to be nice, and stop talking about it, but if you want to continue then fine.

[quote="Christen57":2ful87su][quote="d1234":2ful87su][quote="Renji Asuka":2ful87su]


Not that hard, the punishment isn't going to change, you obviously don't know these 2 bullet points or refuse to understand them. At this point, I'm surprised the admins haven't banned you for the crap you're pulling. And FYI, this site IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.[/quote:2ful87su]
A. I have read those and completely understand them
B. The first, nothing that is against the rules happened on the account Dark Cyborg
C. The second, they may not be limited to the italicized print, but they are limited by the green non-italicized print[/quote:2ful87su]

You still won't read it fully. It says you are responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your account and/or network.

Notice where it says "and/or network". That means you can also be held responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your network, not just on your account.

There was rule-breaking going on on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rule-breaking was boosting.

Boosting involves repeatedly admitting defeat to gain experience illegitimately, which is what happened on Dark Cyborg's network, and Dark Cyborg himself admitted this, saying, and I quote, "a friend (his account is Rusty Bardiche) of mine went on another account on my computer while I wasn't around and tried to tank his rating to 69".

Someone admitted defeat repeatedly to gain experience illegitimately on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rules prohibit "Using multiple accounts, friends or other resources to gain illegitimate wins" which is exactly what happened. Someone went on Dark Cyborg's network and used an account, which is a resource, to gain illegitimate wins for other players by trying "to tank" their own rating.

Do you and Dark Cyborg still not understand this?[/quote:2ful87su]
So if someone broke into your house, hacked into your internet, and broke Duelingbook rules, you would be responsible as well.

[quote="Genexwrecker":2vn7uw3e]We the admin team decide if any action requires x penalty.[/quote:2vn7uw3e]
Doesn’t say that anywhere.

[quote="greg503":1hlo3wrb]So, Dark Cyborg's friend "negative boosts" by continuously admitting defeat in rated. This is clearly not playing rated in a legitimate manner and should be punished by removing the offender from the rated pool as seen in DB rules. However, this occurred on Dark Cyborg's network, according to the start of DB's rules, he is also responsible, and has thus received the same punishment, end of story.[/quote:1hlo3wrb]
That is not at all what happened

[quote="Lil Oldman":2blb1qb4][quote="d1234":2blb1qb4][quote="Lil Oldman":2blb1qb4]We did it bois, this thread is no more[/quote:2blb1qb4]
Nothing to do with you or anyone else, except Dark Cyborg and myself.
In case you are wondering about post A in that last post I said on that subject.[/quote:2blb1qb4]
Was just joking lmao, like the memes of "why are people homeless, just buy a house - We did it bois, homelessness is no more"[/quote:2blb1qb4]
Well, sorry.
I don’t like dumb comments.

[quote="Genexwrecker":3vvq2a03]boosting is not harmless it unfairly affects the booster and everyone they come across. we would not allow such users to be in ranked.[/quote:3vvq2a03]
When you join dueling book, you have a default rating, so the same thing can be said for joining duelingbook, and no one gets punished for that.

[quote="d1234":pw14pt4m][quote="Genexwrecker":pw14pt4m]boosting is not harmless it unfairly affects the booster and everyone they come across. we would not allow such users to be in ranked.[/quote:pw14pt4m]
When you join dueling book, you have a default rating, so the same thing can be said for joining duelingbook, and no one gets punished for that. [/quote:pw14pt4m]
The face is a typo.

[quote="Dark Cyborg":1kztjc1k][quote="Genexwrecker":1kztjc1k][quote="Dark Cyborg":1kztjc1k]Nope. It is not classified as boosting. There is a clear difference between the two and what happened in my situation is not classified under boosting in the rules.[/quote:1kztjc1k]they are both 100% boosting and not tolerated EVER.[/quote:1kztjc1k]

I tanked my rating without boosting the rating of my own account. And, I also tanked my rating without manipulating the duelist pool algorithm. Both can be proved by duelist records. I don't see how this is boosting if I did not violate either of these rules.[/quote:1kztjc1k]

The way he makes these statements furthers my theory that there is no "friend."
It's just him and his alt account. It was just a ploy to try to gain sympathy from the forum. Fortunately, it didn't work.

[quote="troglyte":204vbigk][quote="Dark Cyborg":204vbigk][quote="Genexwrecker":204vbigk]they are both 100% boosting and not tolerated EVER.[/quote:204vbigk]

I tanked my rating without boosting the rating of my own account. And, I also tanked my rating without manipulating the duelist pool algorithm. Both can be proved by duelist records. I don't see how this is boosting if I did not violate either of these rules.[/quote:204vbigk]

The way he makes these statements furthers my theory that there is no "friend."
It's just him and his alt account. It was just a ploy to try to gain sympathy from the forum. Fortunately, it didn't work.[/quote:204vbigk]

There is defiantly a friend.
Because if you look at both of there profiles, Rusty Bardice made an account after Dark Cyborg, AND Dark Cyborg has a decent rating, so why would he try to even them out, unless a friend wanted to have a better rating, so that brings us here.

[quote="d1234":yc56soyz][quote="troglyte":yc56soyz][quote="Dark Cyborg":yc56soyz]

I tanked my rating without boosting the rating of my own account. And, I also tanked my rating without manipulating the duelist pool algorithm. Both can be proved by duelist records. I don't see how this is boosting if I did not violate either of these rules.[/quote:yc56soyz]

The way he makes these statements furthers my theory that there is no "friend."
It's just him and his alt account. It was just a ploy to try to gain sympathy from the forum. Fortunately, it didn't work.[/quote:yc56soyz]

There is defiantly a friend.
Because if you look at both of there profiles, Rusty Bardice made an account after Dark Cyborg, AND Dark Cyborg has a decent rating, so why would he try to even them out, unless a friend wanted to have a better rating, so that brings us here.[/quote:yc56soyz]
When the accounts were made is completely irrelevant. And all the difference in rating means is that he clearly no longer cared about the Rusty account.

[quote="troglyte":1nsreeyx][quote="d1234":1nsreeyx][quote="troglyte":1nsreeyx]

The way he makes these statements furthers my theory that there is no "friend."
It's just him and his alt account. It was just a ploy to try to gain sympathy from the forum. Fortunately, it didn't work.[/quote:1nsreeyx]

There is defiantly a friend.
Because if you look at both of there profiles, Rusty Bardice made an account after Dark Cyborg, AND Dark Cyborg has a decent rating, so why would he try to even them out, unless a friend wanted to have a better rating, so that brings us here.[/quote:1nsreeyx]
When the accounts were made is completely irrelevant. And all the difference in rating means is that he clearly no longer cared about the Rusty account.[/quote:1nsreeyx]
So why would he try to increase the rating of an account he did not care about?

Would you care to edit that question?

[quote="troglyte":j8nj0e5m]Would you care to edit that question?[/quote:j8nj0e5m]
Well you said that he did not care about Rusty Bardice, so following your logic, why would he increase the rating?

[quote="d1234":3r7vyqoq][quote="Christen57":3r7vyqoq][quote="d1234":3r7vyqoq]
A. I have read those and completely understand them
B. The first, nothing that is against the rules happened on the account Dark Cyborg
C. The second, they may not be limited to the italicized print, but they are limited by the green non-italicized print[/quote:3r7vyqoq]

You still won't read it fully. It says you are responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your account and/or network.

Notice where it says "and/or network". That means you can also be held responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your network, not just on your account.

There was rule-breaking going on on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rule-breaking was boosting.

Boosting involves repeatedly admitting defeat to gain experience illegitimately, which is what happened on Dark Cyborg's network, and Dark Cyborg himself admitted this, saying, and I quote, "a friend (his account is Rusty Bardiche) of mine went on another account on my computer while I wasn't around and tried to tank his rating to 69".

Someone admitted defeat repeatedly to gain experience illegitimately on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rules prohibit "Using multiple accounts, friends or other resources to gain illegitimate wins" which is exactly what happened. Someone went on Dark Cyborg's network and used an account, which is a resource, to gain illegitimate wins for other players by trying "to tank" their own rating.

Do you and Dark Cyborg still not understand this?[/quote:3r7vyqoq]
So if someone broke into your house, hacked into your internet, and broke Duelingbook rules, you would be responsible as well.[/quote:3r7vyqoq]

I don't get how this is supposed to refute my argument. Yes you are responsible for any rule-breaking on duelingbook that happens on your network as well as on your account, which is why you take measures to keep both of those safe from malicious users, such as password-protecting your account, your wi-fi, your computer, making sure you don't share the password to any of those with anyone else, as well as locking your doors to your home and having alarm systems and surveillance systems to increase safety and security.

The only way I could see someone "hacking" into a secure wi-fi would be brute-forcing, which would literally take months if not years to do since you're basically trying literally every possible password you can think of until one of them happens to be the right one.

[quote="Christen57":1cpskhbl][quote="d1234":1cpskhbl][quote="Christen57":1cpskhbl]

You still won't read it fully. It says you are responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your account and/or network.

Notice where it says "and/or network". That means you can also be held responsible for any rule-breaking that happens on your network, not just on your account.

There was rule-breaking going on on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rule-breaking was boosting.

Boosting involves repeatedly admitting defeat to gain experience illegitimately, which is what happened on Dark Cyborg's network, and Dark Cyborg himself admitted this, saying, and I quote, "a friend (his account is Rusty Bardiche) of mine went on another account on my computer while I wasn't around and tried to tank his rating to 69".

Someone admitted defeat repeatedly to gain experience illegitimately on Dark Cyborg's network.

The rules prohibit "Using multiple accounts, friends or other resources to gain illegitimate wins" which is exactly what happened. Someone went on Dark Cyborg's network and used an account, which is a resource, to gain illegitimate wins for other players by trying "to tank" their own rating.

Do you and Dark Cyborg still not understand this?[/quote:1cpskhbl]
So if someone broke into your house, hacked into your internet, and broke Duelingbook rules, you would be responsible as well.[/quote:1cpskhbl]

I don't get how this is supposed to refute my argument. Yes you are responsible for any rule-breaking on duelingbook that happens on your network as well as on your account, which is why you take measures to keep both of those safe from malicious users, such as password-protecting your account, your wi-fi, your computer, making sure you don't share the password to any of those with anyone else, as well as locking your doors to your home and having alarm systems and surveillance systems to increase safety and security.

The only way I could see someone "hacking" into a secure wi-fi would be brute-forcing, which would literally take months if not years to do since you're basically trying literally every possible password you can think of until one of them happens to be the right one.[/quote:1cpskhbl]
It is ,ent to be a question. Let’s say that they get lucky, and guess right quickly. In theory, would you be punished?

[quote="d1234":1l21jj96][quote="troglyte":1l21jj96]Would you care to edit that question?[/quote:1l21jj96]
Well you said that he did not care about Rusty Bardice, so following your logic, why would he increase the rating?[/quote:1l21jj96]

This question signals to me you no longer understand the original situation, and you are simply arguing in circles to draw attention to yourself.

[quote="troglyte":11nyllfv][quote="d1234":11nyllfv][quote="troglyte":11nyllfv]Would you care to edit that question?[/quote:11nyllfv]
Well you said that he did not care about Rusty Bardice, so following your logic, why would he increase the rating?[/quote:11nyllfv]

This question signals to me you no longer understand the original situation, and you are simply arguing in circles to draw attention to yourself.[/quote:11nyllfv]
No, I am showing you that your logic is the one going in circles.

Case in point, Dark Cyborg is not only a booster, but based on the significant change in his story as perception of the situation has evolved, his word cannot be trusted.

As for d1234, he's just a shill trying to milk the drama for attention.

Didnt we said to stop this thread? It only brings bad moods to everyone involved and it basically makes no sense now.

[quote="Lil Oldman":1ofyfkys]Didnt we said to stop this thread? It only brings bad moods to everyone involved and it basically makes no sense now.[/quote:1ofyfkys]
It would of if people had the decency to shut up after I made my last post.

[quote="troglyte":2p4obo1h]Case in point, Dark Cyborg is not only a booster, but based on the significant change in his story as perception of the situation has evolved, his word cannot be trusted.

As for d1234, he's just a shill trying to milk the drama for attention.[/quote:2p4obo1h]

Wrong twice.
I am doing it to ensure that user are not wrongly punished. And as for the first point, it is you who clearly doesn’t understand the situation.

[quote="d1234":2yzi82dy][quote="Lil Oldman":2yzi82dy]Didnt we said to stop this thread? It only brings bad moods to everyone involved and it basically makes no sense now.[/quote:2yzi82dy]
It would of if people had the decency to shut up after I made my last post.[/quote:2yzi82dy]

Stop playing the victim.

YOU are the one who brought back both threads to the top after they both fell to the wayside.

You admitted it yourself in the other thread.

[quote="d1234":3ii728bi][quote="Lil Oldman":3ii728bi]Didnt we said to stop this thread? It only brings bad moods to everyone involved and it basically makes no sense now.[/quote:3ii728bi]
It would of if people had the decency to shut up after I made my last post.[/quote:3ii728bi]
So you are forced to respond when someone talks? I literally posted a meme and you got annoyed by it and responded back. We do not have you at gun point to respond.

[quote="d1234":2r16spfr][quote="troglyte":2r16spfr]Case in point, Dark Cyborg is not only a booster, but based on the significant change in his story as perception of the situation has evolved, his word cannot be trusted.

As for d1234, he's just a shill trying to milk the drama for attention.[/quote:2r16spfr]

Wrong twice.
I am doing it to ensure that user are not wrongly punished. And as for the first point, it is you who clearly doesn’t understand the situation.[/quote:2r16spfr]
So is there some sort of evidence that has not been brought forward yet? Or are you just going to repeat the same debunked arguments again?

[quote="troglyte":q49n7vs4][quote="d1234":q49n7vs4][quote="Lil Oldman":q49n7vs4]Didnt we said to stop this thread? It only brings bad moods to everyone involved and it basically makes no sense now.[/quote:q49n7vs4]
It would of if people had the decency to shut up after I made my last post.[/quote:q49n7vs4]

Stop playing the victim.

YOU are the one who brought back both threads to the top after they both fell to the wayside.

You admitted it yourself in the other thread.[/quote:q49n7vs4]
I brought them back because of the cruel comments made after it was supposed to be over.

[quote="Lil Oldman":16rr3bjk][quote="d1234":16rr3bjk][quote="Lil Oldman":16rr3bjk]Didnt we said to stop this thread? It only brings bad moods to everyone involved and it basically makes no sense now.[/quote:16rr3bjk]
It would of if people had the decency to shut up after I made my last post.[/quote:16rr3bjk]
So you are forced to respond when someone talks? I literally posted a meme and you got annoyed by it and responded back. We do not have you at gun point to respond.[/quote:16rr3bjk]
I. Don’t. Give. Up. If you respond I will respond back.

I also hate memes.

[quote="d1234":22lg5hsk]I also hate memes.[/quote:22lg5hsk]
Understandable. Have a nice day.

[quote="troglyte":gqvwq54z][quote="d1234":gqvwq54z][quote="troglyte":gqvwq54z]Case in point, Dark Cyborg is not only a booster, but based on the significant change in his story as perception of the situation has evolved, his word cannot be trusted.

As for d1234, he's just a shill trying to milk the drama for attention.[/quote:gqvwq54z]

Wrong twice.
I am doing it to ensure that user are not wrongly punished. And as for the first point, it is you who clearly doesn’t understand the situation.[/quote:gqvwq54z]
So is there some sort of evidence that has not been brought forward yet? Or are you just going to repeat the same debunked arguments again?[/quote:gqvwq54z]
I will repeat them until you understand they are right.

[quote="Lil Oldman":2igunhcs][quote="d1234":2igunhcs]I also hate memes.[/quote:2igunhcs]
Understandable. Have a nice day.[/quote:2igunhcs]
Are you being sarcastic?

[quote="d1234":2x1zqjkm][quote="Lil Oldman":2x1zqjkm][quote="d1234":2x1zqjkm]I also hate memes.[/quote:2x1zqjkm]
Understandable. Have a nice day.[/quote:2x1zqjkm]
Are you being sarcastic?[/quote:2x1zqjkm]
Yeah, sorry. I just like being an idot with others.

[quote="Lil Oldman":1ztrg08x][quote="d1234":1ztrg08x][quote="Lil Oldman":1ztrg08x]
Understandable. Have a nice day.[/quote:1ztrg08x]
Are you being sarcastic?[/quote:1ztrg08x]
Yeah, sorry. I just like being an idot with others.[/quote:1ztrg08x]
Oka couldn’t tell good day to you too.

[quote="d1234":2plxri0m][quote="Lil Oldman":2plxri0m][quote="d1234":2plxri0m]
Are you being sarcastic?[/quote:2plxri0m]
Yeah, sorry. I just like being an idot with others.[/quote:2plxri0m]
Oka couldn’t tell good day to you too.[/quote:2plxri0m]
Oh I should have read your signature!

Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

[quote="troglyte":1reohex5]Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.[/quote:1reohex5]
Well, I a MAD at you for not listening.
I also hope to persuade you

[quote="troglyte":8eyeb492]Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.[/quote:8eyeb492]
no that would be called "insanity"

[quote="Genexwrecker":1ndqossn][quote="troglyte":1ndqossn]Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.[/quote:1ndqossn]
no that would be called "insanity"[/quote:1ndqossn]
I am not ‘insane’ I am stubborn.

At this rate, this thread's post would surpass Christen's replay thread.

[quote="d1234":38n60xpc][quote="Christen57":38n60xpc][quote="d1234":38n60xpc]
So if someone broke into your house, hacked into your internet, and broke Duelingbook rules, you would be responsible as well.[/quote:38n60xpc]

I don't get how this is supposed to refute my argument. Yes you are responsible for any rule-breaking on duelingbook that happens on your network as well as on your account, which is why you take measures to keep both of those safe from malicious users, such as password-protecting your account, your wi-fi, your computer, making sure you don't share the password to any of those with anyone else, as well as locking your doors to your home and having alarm systems and surveillance systems to increase safety and security.

The only way I could see someone "hacking" into a secure wi-fi would be brute-forcing, which would literally take months if not years to do since you're basically trying literally every possible password you can think of until one of them happens to be the right one.[/quote:38n60xpc]
It is ,ent to be a question. Let’s say that they get lucky, and guess right quickly. In theory, would you be punished?[/quote:38n60xpc]

You still don't seem to understand how extremely unlikely anything like that happening would be. Allow me to break it down for you.

In order for someone to first "break into" my home, they must first figure out exactly where my home it. Currently, there are at least a billion homes on this planet, so a guy looking to brute-force his way into my network would have to first check each and every one of these billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I am in.

Once he manages to do that... somehow... he needs to get past my house's alarm system. This alarm system requires a 4-digit numerical code to deactivate. The possible digits are 0 through 9, which makes a total of 10 numbers. This means that a system that requires a 4-digit code with each digit being 1 of 10 possible numbers has a total of 10,000 different possible combinations. You get this number by multiplying 10 to the 4th power.

After this man goes through all 10,000 of the possible combinations, which is almost impossible since the alarm goes off if you enter the wrong code after about 4 or 5 times, he then needs to figure out the password to my wi-fi.

There are 26 lowercase letters in the alphabet along with 26 uppercase letters in the alphabet, plus 10 one-digit numbers — zero through nine — along with at least 20 additional special characters such as !@#$ and so on. That makes at least 82 possible characters a password 1 character long could be, so if you tried to guess a 1-character password correctly on your first try, you would have at most a 1/82 chance of doing so.

My wi-fi password happens to be at least 15 characters long. To calculate the odds of guessing a 15-character password correctly on your first try, we simply multiply 82 to the fifteenth power — 82^15 — and the result is 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568.

In other words, you have literally a 1 in 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568 chance of guessing my password correctly on your first try.

Your chances of guessing a 15-digit password correctly "quickly" is literally less than 0.000000000000000000000000002%. That is a zero, followed by a dot, followed by 26 more zeroes, followed by the number 2, followed by the percent symbol.

That's over 50 octillion different possible passwords you would have to go through to guess my wi-fi password.

You know how much an octillion is, right?

This is a million: 1,000,000.

This is a billion: 1,000,000,000.

This is a trillion: 1,000,000,000,000.

This is a quadrillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a septillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

And this is an octillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

That's how much an octillion is.

But wait! There's more!

You also have to factor in the possibility of this bad guy getting caught breaking into my home and the police catching and arresting him.

Do you really think a guy would go through billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I'm in, go through thousands of different possible alarm passcodes to figure out which one deactivates my alarm, then go through octillions of different possible passwords to figure out which one the correct one, all at the risk of getting caught by police and sentenced to years in prison, just to break some rules of a children's card game? I know I don't.

You do realize that all of that would literally take decades to accomplish, if not centuries, assuming you guess 10 passwords a second? Do you realize that you have a far better chance of winning the multi-billion dollar lottery at least 4 times in a row? Why on earth would someone waste their time trying to break into a random family's wi-fi to get someone banned from a children's card game and risk jail time when they are more likely to win the powerball jackpot of over 500 million dollars and the mega million jackpot of over 400 million dollars 4 times in a row?

d1234 looks like an alt account name

[quote="Christen57":3jsrxfse][quote="d1234":3jsrxfse][quote="Christen57":3jsrxfse]

I don't get how this is supposed to refute my argument. Yes you are responsible for any rule-breaking on duelingbook that happens on your network as well as on your account, which is why you take measures to keep both of those safe from malicious users, such as password-protecting your account, your wi-fi, your computer, making sure you don't share the password to any of those with anyone else, as well as locking your doors to your home and having alarm systems and surveillance systems to increase safety and security.

The only way I could see someone "hacking" into a secure wi-fi would be brute-forcing, which would literally take months if not years to do since you're basically trying literally every possible password you can think of until one of them happens to be the right one.[/quote:3jsrxfse]
It is ,ent to be a question. Let’s say that they get lucky, and guess right quickly. In theory, would you be punished?[/quote:3jsrxfse]

You still don't seem to understand how extremely unlikely anything like that happening would be. Allow me to break it down for you.

In order for someone to first "break into" my home, they must first figure out exactly where my home it. Currently, there are at least a billion homes on this planet, so a guy looking to brute-force his way into my network would have to first check each and every one of these billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I am in.

Once he manages to do that... somehow... he needs to get past my house's alarm system. This alarm system requires a 4-digit numerical code to deactivate. The possible digits are 0 through 9, which makes a total of 10 numbers. This means that a system that requires a 4-digit code with each digit being 1 of 10 possible numbers has a total of 10,000 different possible combinations. You get this number by multiplying 10 to the 4th power.

After this man goes through all 10,000 of the possible combinations, which is almost impossible since the alarm goes off if you enter the wrong code after about 4 or 5 times, he then needs to figure out the password to my wi-fi.

There are 26 lowercase letters in the alphabet along with 26 uppercase letters in the alphabet, plus 10 one-digit numbers — zero through nine — along with at least 20 additional special characters such as !@#$ and so on. That makes at least 82 possible characters a password 1 character long could be, so if you tried to guess a 1-character password correctly on your first try, you would have at most a 1/82 chance of doing so.

My wi-fi password happens to be at least 15 characters long. To calculate the odds of guessing a 15-character password correctly on your first try, we simply multiply 82 to the fifteenth power — 82^15 — and the result is 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568.

In other words, you have literally a 1 in 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568 chance of guessing my password correctly on your first try.

Your chances of guessing a 15-digit password correctly "quickly" is literally less than 0.000000000000000000000000002%. That is a zero, followed by a dot, followed by 26 more zeroes, followed by the number 2, followed by the percent symbol.

That's over 50 octillion different possible passwords you would have to go through to guess my wi-fi password.

You know how much an octillion is, right?

This is a million: 1,000,000.

This is a billion: 1,000,000,000.

This is a trillion: 1,000,000,000,000.

This is a quadrillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a septillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

And this is an octillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

That's how much an octillion is.

But wait! There's more!

You also have to factor in the possibility of this bad guy getting caught breaking into my home and the police catching and arresting him.

Do you really think a guy would go through billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I'm in, go through thousands of different possible alarm passcodes to figure out which one deactivates my alarm, then go through octillions of different possible passwords to figure out which one the correct one, all at the risk of getting caught by police and sentenced to years in prison, just to break some rules of a children's card game? I know I don't.

You do realize that all of that would literally take decades to accomplish, if not centuries, assuming you guess 10 passwords a second? Do you realize that you have a far better chance of winning the multi-billion dollar lottery at least 4 times in a row? Why on earth would someone waste their time trying to break into a random family's wi-fi to get someone banned from a children's card game and risk jail time when they are more likely to win the powerball jackpot of over 500 million dollars and the mega million jackpot of over 400 million dollars 4 times in a row?[/quote:3jsrxfse]
It is still POSSIBLE very unlikely but possible, and it is a theoretical statement, anyway.

I know how unlikely that is.

[quote="d1234":2kaaf6a6]I know how unlikely that is.[/quote:2kaaf6a6]
Fun fact, admins make the rules not you.

Admins can also enforce the rules as much as they want or not as much as they want. You don't get to dictate that. Frankly, if I was one of the admins, I'd perma ban you if you posted 1 more time on this topic.

Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply

[quote="d1234":2eh3ya86]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:2eh3ya86]
Fun fact, on paper the FDA allows you to fit up to 20 worms in a mushroom can of 100 grams, but in reality they actually use extremely smaller numbers, like 3-5 worms. because worms are worms, doesnt matter the species, like boosting is boosting, no matter the direction.

[quote="d1234":2xv6hl0g]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:2xv6hl0g]
we 100% can

[quote="d1234":3a9f3q6c]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:3a9f3q6c]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.

[quote="Christen57":35izo7g8][quote="d1234":35izo7g8]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:35izo7g8]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:35izo7g8]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.

[quote="Genexwrecker":2pfunxu6][quote="Christen57":2pfunxu6][quote="d1234":2pfunxu6]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:2pfunxu6]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:2pfunxu6]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:2pfunxu6]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right

[quote="kijani":1vxmeimt][quote="Genexwrecker":1vxmeimt][quote="Christen57":1vxmeimt]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:1vxmeimt]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:1vxmeimt]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:1vxmeimt]

Actually law can do that. The example above that explains about how the FDA allows up to 20 worms for each 100 grams of mushrooms, but in reality you can get sued for much smaller amounts like 5 worms.

[quote="kijani":16wi7d5d][quote="Genexwrecker":16wi7d5d][quote="Christen57":16wi7d5d]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:16wi7d5d]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:16wi7d5d]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:16wi7d5d]
I mean in Florida it is illegal to recieve oral sex from an alligator...think about how that law came to life.

Or in California, its illegal to ride a giraffe while fishing. People do things, which cause things to be illegal.

[quote="Renji Asuka":a17d0wfo][quote="kijani":a17d0wfo][quote="Genexwrecker":a17d0wfo]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:a17d0wfo]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:a17d0wfo]
I mean in Florida it is illegal to recieve oral sex from an alligator...think about how that law came to life.

Or in California, its illegal to ride a giraffe while fishing. People do things, which cause things to be illegal.[/quote:a17d0wfo]

How do you have sex with an alligator? Wouldn't it bite you in the butt or something? How can a human and an alligator have a child? Those 2 aren't biologically compatible.

Also, after a bit of research, apparently it was illegal to ride an animal while fishing back in the 1920s or so, but not anymore? https://idfg.idaho.gov/question/i-keep-hearing-its-illegal-fish-back-camel-state-idaho-i-suspect-someone-playing-joke-or

[quote="Christen57":zu7ezhad][quote="Renji Asuka":zu7ezhad][quote="kijani":zu7ezhad]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:zu7ezhad]
I mean in Florida it is illegal to recieve oral sex from an alligator...think about how that law came to life.

Or in California, its illegal to ride a giraffe while fishing. People do things, which cause things to be illegal.[/quote:zu7ezhad]

How do you have sex with an alligator? Wouldn't it bite you in the butt or something? How can a human and an alligator have a child? Those 2 aren't biologically compatible.

Also, after a bit of research, apparently it was illegal to ride an animal while fishing back in the 1920s or so, but not anymore? https://idfg.idaho.gov/question/i-keep-hearing-its-illegal-fish-back-camel-state-idaho-i-suspect-someone-playing-joke-or[/quote:zu7ezhad]
It's just dumb laws I read some years ago and these 2 stuck out.

[quote="Christen57":ghvd2ren][quote="d1234":ghvd2ren]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:ghvd2ren]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:ghvd2ren]
Yes, but that’s not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying that the rules cannot apply if they are made after.
Also, yes, the rules did not change.

[quote="kijani":3ay8rezt][quote="Genexwrecker":3ay8rezt][quote="Christen57":3ay8rezt]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:3ay8rezt]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:3ay8rezt]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:3ay8rezt]
AND, that is what you are asking for by not un-beginering Dark Cyborg.

[quote="Genexwrecker":19q9i3ts][quote="Christen57":19q9i3ts][quote="d1234":19q9i3ts]Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply[/quote:19q9i3ts]



The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.[/quote:19q9i3ts]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:19q9i3ts]
So a judge can ban someone just because they feel like it?

Well, not you kijani, but (mostly) everyone else.

[quote="Christen57":2nzadyjc][quote="d1234":2nzadyjc][quote="Christen57":2nzadyjc]

I don't get how this is supposed to refute my argument. Yes you are responsible for any rule-breaking on duelingbook that happens on your network as well as on your account, which is why you take measures to keep both of those safe from malicious users, such as password-protecting your account, your wi-fi, your computer, making sure you don't share the password to any of those with anyone else, as well as locking your doors to your home and having alarm systems and surveillance systems to increase safety and security.

The only way I could see someone "hacking" into a secure wi-fi would be brute-forcing, which would literally take months if not years to do since you're basically trying literally every possible password you can think of until one of them happens to be the right one.[/quote:2nzadyjc]
It is ,ent to be a question. Let’s say that they get lucky, and guess right quickly. In theory, would you be punished?[/quote:2nzadyjc]

You still don't seem to understand how extremely unlikely anything like that happening would be. Allow me to break it down for you.

In order for someone to first "break into" my home, they must first figure out exactly where my home it. Currently, there are at least a billion homes on this planet, so a guy looking to brute-force his way into my network would have to first check each and every one of these billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I am in.

Once he manages to do that... somehow... he needs to get past my house's alarm system. This alarm system requires a 4-digit numerical code to deactivate. The possible digits are 0 through 9, which makes a total of 10 numbers. This means that a system that requires a 4-digit code with each digit being 1 of 10 possible numbers has a total of 10,000 different possible combinations. You get this number by multiplying 10 to the 4th power.

After this man goes through all 10,000 of the possible combinations, which is almost impossible since the alarm goes off if you enter the wrong code after about 4 or 5 times, he then needs to figure out the password to my wi-fi.

There are 26 lowercase letters in the alphabet along with 26 uppercase letters in the alphabet, plus 10 one-digit numbers — zero through nine — along with at least 20 additional special characters such as !@#$ and so on. That makes at least 82 possible characters a password 1 character long could be, so if you tried to guess a 1-character password correctly on your first try, you would have at most a 1/82 chance of doing so.

My wi-fi password happens to be at least 15 characters long. To calculate the odds of guessing a 15-character password correctly on your first try, we simply multiply 82 to the fifteenth power — 82^15 — and the result is 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568.

In other words, you have literally a 1 in 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568 chance of guessing my password correctly on your first try.

Your chances of guessing a 15-digit password correctly "quickly" is literally less than 0.000000000000000000000000002%. That is a zero, followed by a dot, followed by 26 more zeroes, followed by the number 2, followed by the percent symbol.

That's over 50 octillion different possible passwords you would have to go through to guess my wi-fi password.

You know how much an octillion is, right?

This is a million: 1,000,000.

This is a billion: 1,000,000,000.

This is a trillion: 1,000,000,000,000.

This is a quadrillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a septillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

And this is an octillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

That's how much an octillion is.

But wait! There's more!

You also have to factor in the possibility of this bad guy getting caught breaking into my home and the police catching and arresting him.

Do you really think a guy would go through billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I'm in, go through thousands of different possible alarm passcodes to figure out which one deactivates my alarm, then go through octillions of different possible passwords to figure out which one the correct one, all at the risk of getting caught by police and sentenced to years in prison, just to break some rules of a children's card game? I know I don't.

You do realize that all of that would literally take decades to accomplish, if not centuries, assuming you guess 10 passwords a second? Do you realize that you have a far better chance of winning the multi-billion dollar lottery at least 4 times in a row? Why on earth would someone waste their time trying to break into a random family's wi-fi to get someone banned from a children's card game and risk jail time when they are more likely to win the powerball jackpot of over 500 million dollars and the mega million jackpot of over 400 million dollars 4 times in a row?[/quote:2nzadyjc]
How about instead we say the see a wifi password on your fridge through a kitchen window, press up against the side of your house and use you wifi. (I know this might not apply directly to you but it is not extremely uncommon either)

Its funny how you guys seem to always focus on the wrong topic. These rules are guidelines to general misconduct etc. What you guys dont seem to get is that Admins have discretion to apply punishments that are either harsher or less harsher depending the infraction and the HISTORY of the user. When people come here to complain they have been banned, HISTORY is never brought up as a topic. Additionally, administrators are chosen because of their ability to make the right calls. Now stop shitposting and abusing admins. They already get enough of that. Everyone knows that purposely losing again and again is not healthy for the rated pool. Additionally, everyone knows its called negative boosting. Get over it. Thanks!

[quote="DarkPhenix":1bxhp5np]Its funny how you guys seem to always focus on the wrong topic. These rules are guidelines to general misconduct etc. What you guys dont seem to get is that Admins have discretion to apply punishments that are either harsher or less harsher depending the infraction and the HISTORY of the user. When people come here to complain they have been banned, HISTORY is never brought up as a topic. Additionally, administrators are chosen because of their ability to make the right calls. Now stop shitposting and abusing admins. They already get enough of that. Everyone knows that purposely losing again and again is not healthy for the rated pool. Additionally, everyone knows its called negative boosting. Get over it. Thanks![/quote:1bxhp5np]
I believe the judge exam only covers yugioh rules. Also, I have looked back at other complaints of people being banned, and I think the judges are wrong then too most of the time. Also, the admins are the ones ABUSING their authority. AND if you look at Dark Cyborg’s history, this is the only bad thing that has happened.

Nice alt dude.

[quote="DarkPhenix":22hhs6yg]Nice alt dude.[/quote:22hhs6yg]
What do you mean

[quote="Genexwrecker":2ctmfcqo]boosting is not harmless it unfairly affects the booster and everyone they come across. we would not allow such users to be in ranked.[/quote:2ctmfcqo]
How could someone get hurt from boosting

[quote="Lil Oldman":215dhsv3][quote="kijani":215dhsv3][quote="Genexwrecker":215dhsv3]
it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.[/quote:215dhsv3]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:215dhsv3]

Actually law can do that. The example above that explains about how the FDA allows up to 20 worms for each 100 grams of mushrooms, but in reality you can get sued for much smaller amounts like 5 worms.[/quote:215dhsv3]
Not in every country (Mostly only happens in dictatorships)

[quote="d1234":160st7va][quote="Lil Oldman":160st7va][quote="kijani":160st7va]

Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right[/quote:160st7va]

Actually law can do that. The example above that explains about how the FDA allows up to 20 worms for each 100 grams of mushrooms, but in reality you can get sued for much smaller amounts like 5 worms.[/quote:160st7va]
Not in every country (Mostly only happens in dictatorships)[/quote:160st7va]
Didnt knew that the US was a dictatorship

I didn’t know you didn’t know what mostly meant

[quote="d1234":3mb1ojb1]I didn’t know you didn’t know what mostly meant[/quote:3mb1ojb1]
abbreviation for Food and Drug Administration: a government organization in the US that makes rules for the safety of food and medicines

[quote="Lil Oldman":nwahzxz1][quote="d1234":nwahzxz1]I didn’t know you didn’t know what mostly meant[/quote:nwahzxz1]
abbreviation for Food and Drug Administration: a government organization in the US that makes rules for the safety of food and medicines[/quote:nwahzxz1]
All I am saying is that rules should be mad to be followed, not over followed.
And I know the US is not a dictatorship, why would you think I would, I said mostly.

so people cant mess around on rated without getting their friends banned that's cool so no one can mess around without having a chance to hurt other accounts on the same computer

also reading a bit more into the moment someone put up some logic and evidence its called an alt

also reading a bit more into the moment someone put up some logic and evidence its called an alt

crap double posted by accident

[quote="PENMASTER":2a81muv2]so people cant mess around on rated without getting their friends banned that's cool so no one can mess around without having a chance to hurt other accounts on the same computer[/quote:2a81muv2]
Can you please restate this with correct punctuation, as I (honestly) do not understand.

alt - Alternate account

its just about how people cant share a computer and mess around on their individual accounts or both will receive punishment. like punishing someone's brother for something the other brother did

now that you have a better explanation have a good day

Yo im banned completely lol

[quote="d1234":6s9melou][quote="Christen57":6s9melou][quote="d1234":6s9melou]
It is ,ent to be a question. Let’s say that they get lucky, and guess right quickly. In theory, would you be punished?[/quote:6s9melou]

You still don't seem to understand how extremely unlikely anything like that happening would be. Allow me to break it down for you.

In order for someone to first "break into" my home, they must first figure out exactly where my home it. Currently, there are at least a billion homes on this planet, so a guy looking to brute-force his way into my network would have to first check each and every one of these billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I am in.

Once he manages to do that... somehow... he needs to get past my house's alarm system. This alarm system requires a 4-digit numerical code to deactivate. The possible digits are 0 through 9, which makes a total of 10 numbers. This means that a system that requires a 4-digit code with each digit being 1 of 10 possible numbers has a total of 10,000 different possible combinations. You get this number by multiplying 10 to the 4th power.

After this man goes through all 10,000 of the possible combinations, which is almost impossible since the alarm goes off if you enter the wrong code after about 4 or 5 times, he then needs to figure out the password to my wi-fi.

There are 26 lowercase letters in the alphabet along with 26 uppercase letters in the alphabet, plus 10 one-digit numbers — zero through nine — along with at least 20 additional special characters such as !@#$ and so on. That makes at least 82 possible characters a password 1 character long could be, so if you tried to guess a 1-character password correctly on your first try, you would have at most a 1/82 chance of doing so.

My wi-fi password happens to be at least 15 characters long. To calculate the odds of guessing a 15-character password correctly on your first try, we simply multiply 82 to the fifteenth power — 82^15 — and the result is 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568.

In other words, you have literally a 1 in 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568 chance of guessing my password correctly on your first try.

Your chances of guessing a 15-digit password correctly "quickly" is literally less than 0.000000000000000000000000002%. That is a zero, followed by a dot, followed by 26 more zeroes, followed by the number 2, followed by the percent symbol.

That's over 50 octillion different possible passwords you would have to go through to guess my wi-fi password.

You know how much an octillion is, right?

This is a million: 1,000,000.

This is a billion: 1,000,000,000.

This is a trillion: 1,000,000,000,000.

This is a quadrillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a septillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

And this is an octillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

That's how much an octillion is.

But wait! There's more!

You also have to factor in the possibility of this bad guy getting caught breaking into my home and the police catching and arresting him.

Do you really think a guy would go through billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I'm in, go through thousands of different possible alarm passcodes to figure out which one deactivates my alarm, then go through octillions of different possible passwords to figure out which one the correct one, all at the risk of getting caught by police and sentenced to years in prison, just to break some rules of a children's card game? I know I don't.

You do realize that all of that would literally take decades to accomplish, if not centuries, assuming you guess 10 passwords a second? Do you realize that you have a far better chance of winning the multi-billion dollar lottery at least 4 times in a row? Why on earth would someone waste their time trying to break into a random family's wi-fi to get someone banned from a children's card game and risk jail time when they are more likely to win the powerball jackpot of over 500 million dollars and the mega million jackpot of over 400 million dollars 4 times in a row?[/quote:6s9melou]
How about instead we say the see a wifi password on your fridge through a kitchen window, press up against the side of your house and use you wifi. (I know this might not apply directly to you but it is not extremely uncommon either)[/quote:6s9melou]

How about you don't put your wifi password in an area where strangers can see it that easily like that to begin with?

[quote="d1234":6s9melou][quote="DarkPhenix":6s9melou]Its funny how you guys seem to always focus on the wrong topic. These rules are guidelines to general misconduct etc. What you guys dont seem to get is that Admins have discretion to apply punishments that are either harsher or less harsher depending the infraction and the HISTORY of the user. When people come here to complain they have been banned, HISTORY is never brought up as a topic. Additionally, administrators are chosen because of their ability to make the right calls. Now stop shitposting and abusing admins. They already get enough of that. Everyone knows that purposely losing again and again is not healthy for the rated pool. Additionally, everyone knows its called negative boosting. Get over it. Thanks![/quote:6s9melou]
I believe the judge exam only covers yugioh rules. Also, I have looked back at other complaints of people being banned, and I think the judges are wrong then too most of the time. Also, the admins are the ones ABUSING their authority. AND if you look at Dark Cyborg’s history, this is the only bad thing that has happened.[/quote:6s9melou]

I once took dueling network's judge exam myself back when that was still around. It covers far more than just yugioh rules/rulings. It also covers certain scenarios that are likely to come up such as "What would you do if Player1 make this error? How would you fix this? Should Player1 recieve a warning for this or a game loss?" or "Player2 says his screen is glitched and shows you a screenshot claiming it proves it, but you aren't sure if it proves that they are glitched. Should you trust Player2 and cancel the match, or require more proof?"

Also, what "other complaints of people being banned" do you have a problem with, and how can we see Dark Cyborg's history and know for certain that he never attempted anything like this before?

That is not for you to see. This topic has been exploited far pass anything sensical. Lets end this pointless thread that is just wasting people's time including my own.

[quote="DarkPhenix":3vsbnkh2]That is not for you to see. This topic has been exploited far pass anything sensical. Lets end this pointless thread that is just wasting people's time including my own.[/quote:3vsbnkh2]
I’m not stopping

There is no conversation to be had here anymore.

Can't threads be locked?

There is conversation to be had

[quote="d1234":1hcdc1gw]There is conversation to be had[/quote:1hcdc1gw]
No there isn't.

As multiple judges have explained (along with myself, a month ago), quitting the duel repeatedly to intentionally lower your rating to 69 is a form of boosting, regardless of whether it's to gain exp or simply lower rating.

You're boosting losses, and giving others illegitimate wins. You're ruining the integrity of the rated pool. This is the consequence.

And what the rules do clearly state is that ALL activity on your network or account fall under your responsibility, regardless of whether or not it was another individual like your "friend" who performed those actions.