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"Declare" button for cards in GY and Banished

also in hand for those like dangers , thunder dragon , etc , etc , etc..

I don’t think the declare buttons are needed and the current button has caused just as many judge calls as not having it.

We've typed in chat for years, we have the communication skills, we don't need this

[quote="Genexwrecker":pmqtlud5]I don’t think the declare buttons are needed and the current button has caused just as many judge calls as not having it.[/quote:pmqtlud5]

How? You would think declare buttons make things smoother.

[quote="Christen57":2e8a9e48][quote="Genexwrecker":2e8a9e48]I don’t think the declare buttons are needed and the current button has caused just as many judge calls as not having it.[/quote:2e8a9e48]

How? You would think declare buttons make things smoother.[/quote:2e8a9e48]
You underestimate the yugioh community the call button is either never used or incorrectly used I have had dozens of calls with people calling cause their opp didn’t declare their effects properly even with the declare button being pressed

I had a guy rage because I refused to use the lilith declare button, yet I stated I was using her effect in chat. They acted like I had to press it....That button just causes more problems in my opinion.

I think the declare button is fine, but you should alternate. If you just use the declare button and don't even give your opponent time to respond, then theres a problem. We only need more green buttons for cards.

[quote="Renji Asuka":jboxxz2w]I had a guy rage because I refused to use the lilith declare button, yet I stated I was using her effect in chat. They acted like I had to press it....That button just causes more problems in my opinion.[/quote:jboxxz2w]

Can we see the replay for that?

[quote="Neo_Fire_Sonic":jboxxz2w]I think the declare button is fine, but you should alternate. If you just use the declare button and don't even give your opponent time to respond, then theres a problem. We only need more green buttons for cards.[/quote:jboxxz2w]

We should also have new chat commands so we don't have to keep relying on green buttons for all these cards.

I'll have to find it, but its been awhile since that duel

After digging, https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=5191-9837172 I found the replay. And yes, this is in ranked....

[quote="Christen57":pmmrlgia][quote="Renji Asuka":pmmrlgia]I had a guy rage because I refused to use the lilith declare button, yet I stated I was using her effect in chat. They acted like I had to press it....That button just causes more problems in my opinion.[/quote:pmmrlgia]

Can we see the replay for that?

[quote="Neo_Fire_Sonic":pmmrlgia]I think the declare button is fine, but you should alternate. If you just use the declare button and don't even give your opponent time to respond, then theres a problem. We only need more green buttons for cards.[/quote:pmmrlgia]

We should also have new chat commands so we don't have to keep relying on green buttons for all these cards.[/quote:pmmrlgia]
like /lillith /extrav6

Heh Renji I had to deal with the same feeling my opponent literally quit on me because I didn’t press declare when I literally typed in effect in the chat.

[quote="Slitina":30y8camg]Heh Renji I had to deal with the same feeling my opponent literally quit on me because I didn’t press declare when I literally typed in effect in the chat.[/quote:30y8camg]
It's so dumb, frankly I think the button should be removed.

[quote="Genexwrecker":16u3se5c][quote="Christen57":16u3se5c][quote="Renji Asuka":16u3se5c]I had a guy rage because I refused to use the lilith declare button, yet I stated I was using her effect in chat. They acted like I had to press it....That button just causes more problems in my opinion.[/quote:16u3se5c]

Can we see the replay for that?

[quote="Neo_Fire_Sonic":16u3se5c]I think the declare button is fine, but you should alternate. If you just use the declare button and don't even give your opponent time to respond, then theres a problem. We only need more green buttons for cards.[/quote:16u3se5c]

We should also have new chat commands so we don't have to keep relying on green buttons for all these cards.[/quote:16u3se5c]
like /lillith /extrav6[/quote:16u3se5c]

Yeah, especially since there are lots of cards that focus on banishing random cards from the extra deck like Aegaion the Sea Castrum and whatnot, so it makes sense to finally just put a banish random button on the extra deck or a banish random extra deck chat command, as opposed to putting buttons on each of all these cards to banish random cards from the extra deck.

Also we need the option to at least target opponent's face-down banished cards for effects like Psy-Framelord Omega, or to just move around opponent's face-down banished cards like we can with our own.

[quote="Renji Asuka":16u3se5c]After digging, https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=5191-9837172 I found the replay. And yes, this is in ranked....[/quote:16u3se5c]

Looks like the problem was that you didn't use the green button for resolving the effect of lilith (not the declare button), so that's why he was upset. You have to use it's green button first to bring up the menu to choose 3 cards from your deck, then send lilith to the graveyard as if you were tributing it for it's cost.

[quote="Renji Asuka":16u3se5c][quote="Slitina":16u3se5c]Heh Renji I had to deal with the same feeling my opponent literally quit on me because I didn’t press declare when I literally typed in effect in the chat.[/quote:16u3se5c]
It's so dumb, frankly I think the button should be removed.[/quote:16u3se5c]

Nah, leave it. I like being able to just use my right hand for declaring effects instead of having to use my left hand too. It helps when I'm eating while playing on duelingbook since I'm left handed, so I can hold the spoon/fork with my left hand to eat while using the mouse with my right hand to click on stuff.

[quote="Christen57":1yrv3um3][quote="Genexwrecker":1yrv3um3][quote="Christen57":1yrv3um3]

Can we see the replay for that?



We should also have new chat commands so we don't have to keep relying on green buttons for all these cards.[/quote:1yrv3um3]
like /lillith /extrav6[/quote:1yrv3um3]

Yeah, especially since there are lots of cards that focus on banishing random cards from the extra deck like Aegaion the Sea Castrum and whatnot, so it makes sense to finally just put a banish random button on the extra deck or a banish random extra deck chat command, as opposed to putting buttons on each of all these cards to banish random cards from the extra deck.

Also we need the option to at least target opponent's face-down banished cards for effects like Psy-Framelord Omega, or to just move around opponent's face-down banished cards like we can with our own.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1yrv3um3]After digging, https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=5191-9837172 I found the replay. And yes, this is in ranked....[/quote:1yrv3um3]

Looks like the problem was that you didn't use the green button for resolving the effect of lilith (not the declare button), so that's why he was upset. You have to use it's green button first to bring up the menu to choose 3 cards from your deck, then send lilith to the graveyard as if you were tributing it for it's cost.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1yrv3um3][quote="Slitina":1yrv3um3]Heh Renji I had to deal with the same feeling my opponent literally quit on me because I didn’t press declare when I literally typed in effect in the chat.[/quote:1yrv3um3]
It's so dumb, frankly I think the button should be removed.[/quote:1yrv3um3]

Nah, leave it. I like being able to just use my right hand for declaring effects instead of having to use my left hand too. It helps when I'm eating while playing on duelingbook since I'm left handed, so I can hold the spoon/fork with my left hand to eat while using the mouse with my right hand to click on stuff.[/quote:1yrv3um3]
I DON'T HAVE to press any green button to resolve any effect, as I can manually do it myself.

[quote="Genexwrecker":267oyj60]I don’t think the declare buttons are needed and the current button has caused just as many judge calls as not having it.[/quote:267oyj60]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixdo93X6-ek

[quote="Renji Asuka":3c3j7zqv][quote="Christen57":3c3j7zqv][quote="Genexwrecker":3c3j7zqv]
like /lillith /extrav6[/quote:3c3j7zqv]

Yeah, especially since there are lots of cards that focus on banishing random cards from the extra deck like Aegaion the Sea Castrum and whatnot, so it makes sense to finally just put a banish random button on the extra deck or a banish random extra deck chat command, as opposed to putting buttons on each of all these cards to banish random cards from the extra deck.

Also we need the option to at least target opponent's face-down banished cards for effects like Psy-Framelord Omega, or to just move around opponent's face-down banished cards like we can with our own.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3c3j7zqv]After digging, https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=5191-9837172 I found the replay. And yes, this is in ranked....[/quote:3c3j7zqv]

Looks like the problem was that you didn't use the green button for resolving the effect of lilith (not the declare button), so that's why he was upset. You have to use it's green button first to bring up the menu to choose 3 cards from your deck, then send lilith to the graveyard as if you were tributing it for it's cost.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3c3j7zqv]
It's so dumb, frankly I think the button should be removed.[/quote:3c3j7zqv]

Nah, leave it. I like being able to just use my right hand for declaring effects instead of having to use my left hand too. It helps when I'm eating while playing on duelingbook since I'm left handed, so I can hold the spoon/fork with my left hand to eat while using the mouse with my right hand to click on stuff.[/quote:3c3j7zqv]
I DON'T HAVE to press any green button to resolve any effect, as I can manually do it myself.[/quote:3c3j7zqv]

It's faster to use the green button since it keeps games running fast and smoothly. You should always make plays in the quickest way possible. If you always take the long route, that will be seen as slow play, which will lead to penalties in the future.

You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1d3iupuj]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:1d3iupuj]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?

[quote="greg503":1y38eesi][quote="Renji Asuka":1y38eesi]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:1y38eesi]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?[/quote:1y38eesi]
Thats a smartalec remark. stuff that are physically impossible to do without a button have one. it is not impossible to communicate your effects in the chat therefore you dont need a button to do that for you.

if people dont know how to use specific buttons it's up to them to learn

also a guide line can be displayed somewhere in the rules or elsewhere it can be seen

if they dont know how to use them doesnt mean those buttons are useless , time to time as any other given thing

[quote="greg503":20n5ryuy][quote="Renji Asuka":20n5ryuy]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:20n5ryuy]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?[/quote:20n5ryuy]
I mean, it isn't that hard, I can easily just do /banish 9 over and over again (assuming nothing is in the banished zone, and if anyone wants to look at what is banished, I can show them my deck. But then again, I don't play that card, so I have no reason to even worry about that.

[quote="Renji Asuka":xr13i46z]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:xr13i46z]

Didn't know getting banned from ygopro was possible but if you play in such slow ways on duelingbook when it's obviously easier to play in a faster way, then yes it will be slow play.

Lilith's green button lets you quickly choose 3 cards from your deck and then it reveals all 3 of them then sets 1 random one to your spell/trap zone while shuffling the rest into the deck. There is no longer any need to manually take the 3 cards out of your deck then roll dice to determine which card gets set to your field then manually put the rest back in your deck then manually shuffle your deck. That just takes up unnecessary time.

Imagine playing a combo deck and taking 10 minutes just to do your combo taking shortcuts, and then choosing to do things the long and slow way, thus making it take even longer to finish your combo for no reason.

[quote="Renji Asuka":xr13i46z][quote="greg503":xr13i46z][quote="Renji Asuka":xr13i46z]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:xr13i46z]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?[/quote:xr13i46z]
I mean, it isn't that hard, I can easily just do /banish 9 over and over again (assuming nothing is in the banished zone, and if anyone wants to look at what is banished, I can show them my deck. But then again, I don't play that card, so I have no reason to even worry about that.[/quote:xr13i46z]

Even if you don't play that card, what if someone else does? You really would rather banish your entire deck for convulsion of nature than just flip your deck with the click of 1 button?

[quote="Christen57":3m6h6q77][quote="Renji Asuka":3m6h6q77]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:3m6h6q77]

Didn't know getting banned from ygopro was possible but if you play in such slow ways on duelingbook when it's obviously easier to play in a faster way, then yes it will be slow play.

Lilith's green button lets you quickly choose 3 cards from your deck and then it reveals all 3 of them then sets 1 random one to your spell/trap zone while shuffling the rest into the deck. There is no longer any need to manually take the 3 cards out of your deck then roll dice to determine which card gets set to your field then manually put the rest back in your deck then manually shuffle your deck. That just takes up unnecessary time.

Imagine playing a combo deck and taking 10 minutes just to do your combo taking shortcuts, and then choosing to do things the long and slow way, thus making it take even longer to finish your combo for no reason.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3m6h6q77][quote="greg503":3m6h6q77]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?[/quote:3m6h6q77]
I mean, it isn't that hard, I can easily just do /banish 9 over and over again (assuming nothing is in the banished zone, and if anyone wants to look at what is banished, I can show them my deck. But then again, I don't play that card, so I have no reason to even worry about that.[/quote:3m6h6q77]

Even if you don't play that card, what if someone else does? You really would rather banish your entire deck for convulsion of nature than just flip your deck with the click of 1 button?[/quote:3m6h6q77]
It's more like I got banned from their discord, which won't let me play on ygopro anymore cause I made said "All furries must burn" in a jokingly way.

If I can do it manually, I will. End of story. If someone else wants to use the buttons, they can.

Also, I never continue combos unless I have the go ahead as I refuse to not give my opponent a chance to respond, even if it takes longer. I refuse to get a gameloss for it.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3qolhd2x][quote="Christen57":3qolhd2x][quote="Renji Asuka":3qolhd2x]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:3qolhd2x]

Didn't know getting banned from ygopro was possible but if you play in such slow ways on duelingbook when it's obviously easier to play in a faster way, then yes it will be slow play.

Lilith's green button lets you quickly choose 3 cards from your deck and then it reveals all 3 of them then sets 1 random one to your spell/trap zone while shuffling the rest into the deck. There is no longer any need to manually take the 3 cards out of your deck then roll dice to determine which card gets set to your field then manually put the rest back in your deck then manually shuffle your deck. That just takes up unnecessary time.

Imagine playing a combo deck and taking 10 minutes just to do your combo taking shortcuts, and then choosing to do things the long and slow way, thus making it take even longer to finish your combo for no reason.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3qolhd2x]
I mean, it isn't that hard, I can easily just do /banish 9 over and over again (assuming nothing is in the banished zone, and if anyone wants to look at what is banished, I can show them my deck. But then again, I don't play that card, so I have no reason to even worry about that.[/quote:3qolhd2x]

Even if you don't play that card, what if someone else does? You really would rather banish your entire deck for convulsion of nature than just flip your deck with the click of 1 button?[/quote:3qolhd2x]
It's more like I got banned from their discord, which won't let me play on ygopro anymore cause I made said "All furries must burn" in a jokingly way.

If I can do it manually, I will. End of story. If someone else wants to use the buttons, they can.[/quote:3qolhd2x]

I went into the discord server myself and got the download links for you. You're welcome.

https://github.com/edo9300/edopro/releases/tag/38.1.3

Windows
https://mega.nz/file/9ShxmD4Y#gmQoNIRn9psUnMTpXYib3pT3oo16_WROgChgaavpvYI

https://mega.nz/file/UC4FWRCB#PQ9XOveAv6T9M9_q3u2txEZF32bmC6iOY6Dq6S9-Lt4

https://mega.nz/file/lThxHbJa#MTgFsPd9gahv8o-tOwglByz_Ri-zOCPVPoh0HrvlPIk

Mac
https://www.mono-project.com/download/stable/#download-mac

https://mega.nz/file/dKwxBRAS#N3dwtvOBkm9ssDcT0cFfPFOG3ngMndOiCMlujIlHiYI

Linux
https://www.mono-project.com/download/stable/#download-lin

https://mega.nz/file/lDhTiLLQ#ppfrMievkqfyqG__nzZ0TJK9FmfUY0foJOEjyuW-UxM

Here are screenshots proving these links are legitimate:

Lol thanks, you didn't have to

I don't think they want reposting of those download links though

[quote="greg503":17rj5w0s]I don't think they want reposting of those download links though[/quote:17rj5w0s]

That's their problem.

I have a Chromebook 3400, which means I couldn't download it unless "you install a compatible Linux distribution on Chromebook, this binary may work."

I have chosen Dueling Book because it's an alternative to playing anime decks. But if I could learn how to download EDOPRO & play custom cards there, it would really help me be at peace in playing a non-meta format.

[quote="Christen57":2mjhasi9][quote="greg503":2mjhasi9]I don't think they want reposting of those download links though[/quote:2mjhasi9]

That's their problem.[/quote:2mjhasi9]

In order to feel like not asking too much:

- I felt inspired to also learn the kind of coding you did to help other people playing Duelingbook. I just need to know if it's possible to make code that prevents me from looking at my cards.

- If that doesn't work. I only want to know what they mean of "a compatible Linux distribution" to be able to understand & download EDOPRO.

They appear to give some example Linux builds on the first bullet point so I would start there

[quote="Jedx_EX":barpffjh][quote="Christen57":barpffjh][quote="greg503":barpffjh]I don't think they want reposting of those download links though[/quote:barpffjh]

That's their problem.[/quote:barpffjh]

In order to feel like not asking too much:

- I felt inspired to also learn the kind of coding you did to help other people playing Duelingbook. I just need to know if it's possible to make code that prevents me from looking at my cards.

- If that doesn't work. I only want to know what they mean of "a compatible Linux distribution" to be able to understand & download EDOPRO.[/quote:barpffjh]

Don't worry about "asking too much". Just ask and I will answer what I can.

The programming language I use is called javascript.

I'm not sure what you mean by "code that prevents me from looking at my cards". Are you saying you want cards in your hand, cards in your graveyard, your face-down banished cards, your cards in your extra deck, and your face-down cards on the field, to be hidden? If so, then how would you be able to play yugioh if you can't look at any of your own cards?

I think that's about Darkness'/Nightshroud's gimmick in the anime of needing another card just to look at his randomly rearranged backrow each turn

[quote="greg503":21t84jxv]I think that's about Darkness'/Nightshroud's gimmick in the anime of needing another card just to look at his randomly rearranged backrow each turn[/quote:21t84jxv]

I'm assuming you're referring to these:
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Yu-Gi-Oh!_GX_-_Episode_177
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Darkness

If so then, why not just use coins/dice to randomly determine what Spell/Trap to activate instead of "hiding" them?

"During each End Phase, Set all face-up Trap Cards you control, and randomly rearrange all cards in your Spell & Trap Card Zone." This part seems nigh impossible in DB, since the locations matter for Zero and Infinity.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Zero
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Infinity_(card)

[quote="greg503":39xoxiez][quote="Renji Asuka":39xoxiez]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:39xoxiez]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?[/quote:39xoxiez]

You know that back on dueling network people actually did in fact have to play convulsion of nature without a dedicated button?

[quote="greg503":39xoxiez]"During each End Phase, Set all face-up Trap Cards you control, and randomly rearrange all cards in your Spell & Trap Card Zone." This part seems nigh impossible in DB, since the locations matter for Zero and Infinity.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Zero
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Infinity_(card)[/quote:39xoxiez]

I'm thinking you could just take all the cards you want to rearrange, put them in your hand, have your opponent pick 1 at a time at random to set, then repeat until you reset all of them.

[quote="Christen57":2dzo2w1w][quote="greg503":2dzo2w1w][quote="Renji Asuka":2dzo2w1w]You may think its faster, but I play on dueling book for the manual aspect. If I wanted to press a button that can do things for me, I'd be on ygopro....(implying I'm not banned)

On top of that, you can easily by pass "slow play" as long as you communicate.[/quote:2dzo2w1w]
So you play convulsion of nature without the button?[/quote:2dzo2w1w]

You know that back on dueling network people actually did in fact have to play convulsion of nature without a dedicated button?

[quote="greg503":2dzo2w1w]"During each End Phase, Set all face-up Trap Cards you control, and randomly rearrange all cards in your Spell & Trap Card Zone." This part seems nigh impossible in DB, since the locations matter for Zero and Infinity.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Zero
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Infinity_(card)[/quote:2dzo2w1w]

I'm thinking you could just take all the cards you want to rearrange, put them in your hand, have your opponent pick 1 at a time at random to set, then repeat until you reset all of them.[/quote:2dzo2w1w]
You know, apparently judges on DuelingNetwork had banned people who used the card in Ranked or gave them a game loss or something.

There weren't really any decks that benefited from it and it took so much time to set up that using it is practically trolling.

[quote="greg503":2gfpvkmj]There weren't really any decks that benefited from it and it took so much time to set up that using it is practically trolling.[/quote:2gfpvkmj]
I mean there was some strategies when using the card back then, just not a lot of options.

[quote="Christen57":36pa7zj8][quote="greg503":36pa7zj8]"During each End Phase, Set all face-up Trap Cards you control, and randomly rearrange all cards in your Spell & Trap Card Zone." This part seems nigh impossible in DB, since the locations matter for Zero and Infinity.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Zero
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Infinity_(card)[/quote:36pa7zj8]

I'm thinking you could just take all the cards you want to rearrange, put them in your hand, have your opponent pick 1 at a time at random to set, then repeat until you reset all of them.[/quote:36pa7zj8]

(November replay):
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=647399-21834286 (randomization through dice rolls)

That was a good suggestion, I'll try that, when I re-create the archetype.
(I saw this post a month ago, and at that time, I didn't know what else to say)
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I now have a new laptop (holiday gift) that is capable of downloading EDOPRO to try "Darkness" and "New Orders" (my best favorites). But I already changed my goal to using my new laptop for learning Arduino. Besides, taking a 5-month break on Yu-Gi-Oh! (starting February). May be a good choice for people that are waiting for the banlist to be fixed. Thanks for listening by the way.

[quote="Genexwrecker":3gc8jdv2]I don’t think the declare buttons are needed and the current button has caused just as many judge calls as not having it.[/quote:3gc8jdv2]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixdo93X6-ek Just do it!

When I banish this card,
https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=2103624
it'll save time by explaining the situation for me, so my opponent wouldn't get confused. But before I made this card, there were people that complain about "Darkness", even with RNG happening in every End Phase.

No RNG at first activation:
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=647399-25118402 (XD)

RNG enabled starting on activation:
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=647399-25124002
(I told him the last effect was supposed to be changed beforehand so that only my backrow self-destructs. Also, I meant to use the search before using Darkness)