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Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

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Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Post #1 by XtevensChannel » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:31 am

Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Can it be abused? Should this only be allowed in certain situations?

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Post #2 by Pyukunuke » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:37 am

It doesn't sound like a bad idea but I hate the idea of someone going over the replay and seeing what their opponent could have done (Whether it was a mistake on the opponent's end or not) and being rude to them in private messages or calling them out on the main menu
But if someone were to do that, that would be on them

Lets just see where it goes

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Post #3 by Coughy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:37 am

In a match you should only be able to see the replay once the match is over. You should also be able to check their deck (unless that can be abused some way)

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Post #4 by Crimson7Reaper » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:41 am

I wouldn't mind being able to see what my opponent had, then I could figure out what I could have done to not lose the duel or what cards I should add into my deck to get a better chance of playing over my opponent's responses.

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Post #5 by Pyukunuke » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:43 am

I don't agree with Coughy when it comes to viewing their deck since it was made by the other player
I don't think some people would like it if some people were to copy their list without their permission

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Post #6 by Crimson7Reaper » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:48 am

Pyukunuke wrote:I don't agree with Coughy when it comes to viewing their deck since it was made by the other player
I don't think some people would like it if some people were to copy their list without their permission


But it's Yugioh. Most competitive builds are going to look almost identical regardless. It doesn't matter if they don't want others to copy their list, their list probably isn't even theirs in the first place.

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Post #7 by Pyukunuke » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:53 am

Crimson7Reaper wrote:
Pyukunuke wrote:I don't agree with Coughy when it comes to viewing their deck since it was made by the other player
I don't think some people would like it if some people were to copy their list without their permission


But it's Yugioh. Most competitive builds are going to look almost identical regardless. It doesn't matter if they don't want others to copy their list, their list probably isn't even theirs in the first place.


I like to look at it from someone else's perspective
Plus, you can look up a decklist on google anyway, but we are just talking about whether replays should show their opponent's hand or not
I know we may not agree with each other but, we will just see what Xteven wants to do and leave it at that

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Post #8 by the flaming storm » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:32 pm

well as said competitive players run the same deck of everyone so " netdeck " isnt even an issue since you can find the deck on google in the first place. i think it would be useful to see in specific situations if it was a good idea to do a certain play or another so this feature will most likely be useful to get better at the game

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Post #9 by Runzy » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:39 pm

Dope why not
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Post #10 by Genexwrecker » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:00 am

do it and see how it goes. if it has problems which i doubt it will just remove it
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Post #11 by Pfannkuchen » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:24 pm

This will prevent people from Cheating or at least they can be punished afterwards if they do illegal plays with this whole new "verification rule", so I like it.

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Post #12 by XtevensChannel » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:08 pm

I'm wondering if it should only show both hands if it's a rated game, or if there should be a similar restriction.

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Post #13 by the flaming storm » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:15 pm

XtevensChannel wrote:I'm wondering if it should only show both hands if it's a rated game, or if there should be a similar restriction.


show for both rated and unrated please

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Post #14 by Alisae » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:23 pm

Cool

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Post #15 by Barron Trump » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:17 am

It would be a good thing for a couple of reasons:

- It would help those who are competitive or want to improve their game to see if they made the correct play or could've done something different.
- It could help deter people who try to cheat.

It might be minimal in the latter but so far with the recent solo mode DB is upping its game.
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Post #16 by Genexwrecker » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:25 pm

XtevensChannel wrote:I'm wondering if it should only show both hands if it's a rated game, or if there should be a similar restriction.
both rated and unrated. this would be very helpful for tournaments and wars
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Post #17 by XtevensChannel » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:18 pm

What we have now is that replays that would normally show one hand now show both hands. Replays that didn't show either hand still show neither hand.

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Post #18 by Jazz » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:44 am

We really need a way to turn off this new feature if we want to. When I review a game I want to watch it as it actually happened so I can analyze the situation as realistically as possible. Having perfect knowledge of the opponents cards is counter productive to learning via review. My goal is to get better at the game and the game is not played with info revealed.

Quite frankly it's also more entertaining and less distracting not to see all of the opponent's cards. Showing the hand removes all the drama and the suspense that make yugioh great.

I actually think the opponent's hand should be hidden by default but all I really need is a button so I can go back to hiding it. I really liked the old replays. Thanks.

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Post #19 by BuildTheWalia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:04 am

I would love for there be a toggle for those who don't want to see, it would eliminate the need for a "yes or no" option.

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Post #20 by Morpp_SSB » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:05 am

Jazz wrote:We really need a way to turn off this new feature if we want to. When I review a game I want to watch it as it actually happened so I can analyze the situation as realistically as possible. Having perfect knowledge of the opponents cards is counter productive to learning via review. My goal is to get better at the game and the game is not played with info revealed.

Quite frankly it's also more entertaining and less distracting not to see all of the opponent's cards. Showing the hand removes all the drama and the suspense that make yugioh great.

I actually think the opponent's hand should be hidden by default but all I really need is a button so I can go back to hiding it. I really liked the old replays. Thanks.


what Jazz said, ideally we'd have a toggle on/off for hand reveals


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