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AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Lil Oldman wrote:Additionally, why silver's cry but no return of the dragon lords? Why are you running vanilla Ultimate Dragon when you aren't even running shinning Dragon and already have Alternative Ultimate and Neo Ultimate?

neo ultimates effect

Renji Asuka wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:These decks I made from scratch. Any constructive criticism would be helpful
Note: SAYING SCRAP THE DECK AND MAKE a "Insert name of deck that I don't like" ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10499694 Dark Magician
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10497059 Odd-eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10508395 D/D/D (shelved due to too many risks and complications)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10512024 Blue-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10514286 Blackwing (shelved due to people saying blackwing synchro monsters are outdated)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10516978 Melodious
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10517048 Red-Eyes ( Do not suggest Dragoon)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519816 SuperHeavy Samurai
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519010 Harpie
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10521523 Abyss Actors (hard work in progress)

So, I didn't see the melodious deck. I will admit, I have played the deck extensively in MR3. That being said, here's my feedback on it.

You keep having a tendency in putting your play starters at less than 3. This is something you should stop doing. Always put your play starters at 3.

1st Movement Solo needs to be at 3. Same with Ostinato. Ostinato let's you go into Schuberta the Melodious Maestra by sending Aria the Melodious Diva and Elegy the Melodious Diva to the GY which at the end of your turn, let's you create an "unbreakable" lock.

Celestial Transformation can help create your lock as well if one of your monsters are in the hand. It WILL attempt to destroy the monster at every end phase which Elegy can prevent. This card can also let you play Kristya which can prevent your opponent from Special Summoning as a 1 turn Vanity's Emptiness.

Photon Lead is the same thing as above, but doesn't halve the monster's atk or attempt to destroy. It's also strictly Level 4 LIGHT monsters.

Valhalla this card can let you play your fairies from hand if you have no monsters you control. This can let you cheat out Mozarta which can let you bring out another card. You will have to choose between this, 1st Movement, and Ostinato and pick the best option depending on the situation if you have all 3.

Now let's talk about the extenders. Run your extenders at 3. Again you for some reason choose not to. Canon the Melodious Diva, Sonata the Melodious Diva these can let you go into your Link 2 with EASE, the greatest of EASE.

Now as for a problem with some of the card choices. Crystal Rose, it's not a good card. You cannot convince me it is for Melodious. Mozarta is fine to run as a 1-2 of. Any more than that and you risk opening doubles more often of it. Which is bad for consistency. Solo the Melodious Songstress is also really bad as it requires your opponent to have a monster and you don't, which also conflicts with 1st Movement, Ostinato, and Valhalla.

Soprano is a 1 of if that, only because you only gain its effect on Special Summon, but being able to bring it out from their Link isn't too bad, which can let you fusion outside of Ostinato or Poly. It's not a card you want to open multiples of.

Opera, like why? You can make an "unbreakable" board without it. It does nothing for the deck.

Score is a hand trap, and it isn't even a hard once per turn, you can run this at 3 while also running Honest.

Tamtam, I see what you're doing by searching Poly with it, you have the right idea of running it at 1 just like Soprano should be run.

Serenade, is cute and all but only getting the extra normal summon after she was special summoned is really bad. I wouldn't run her.

Shopina doesn't do anything and locks you into light monster's effects which is really bad since you can run some hand traps like Ghost Belle (which can stop stuff like D.D. Crow and Called By or even stop Gamma).

I already spoke on Dimensional Prison, it's too slow. Stop running it. Also Melodious Illusion is really bad Your unbreakable board won't need that kind of protection.

DarwisBellium92 wrote:

Renji Asuka wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:These decks I made from scratch. Any constructive criticism would be helpful
Note: SAYING SCRAP THE DECK AND MAKE a "Insert name of deck that I don't like" ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10499694 Dark Magician
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10497059 Odd-eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10508395 D/D/D (shelved due to too many risks and complications)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10512024 Blue-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10514286 Blackwing (shelved due to people saying blackwing synchro monsters are outdated)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10516978 Melodious
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10517048 Red-Eyes ( Do not suggest Dragoon)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519816 SuperHeavy Samurai
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519010 Harpie
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10521523 Abyss Actors (hard work in progress)

So, I didn't see the melodious deck. I will admit, I have played the deck extensively in MR3. That being said, here's my feedback on it.

You keep having a tendency in putting your play starters at less than 3. This is something you should stop doing. Always put your play starters at 3.

1st Movement Solo needs to be at 3. Same with Ostinato. Ostinato let's you go into Schuberta the Melodious Maestra by sending Aria the Melodious Diva and Elegy the Melodious Diva to the GY which at the end of your turn, let's you create an "unbreakable" lock.

Celestial Transformation can help create your lock as well if one of your monsters are in the hand. It WILL attempt to destroy the monster at every end phase which Elegy can prevent. This card can also let you play Kristya which can prevent your opponent from Special Summoning as a 1 turn Vanity's Emptiness.

Photon Lead is the same thing as above, but doesn't halve the monster's atk or attempt to destroy. It's also strictly Level 4 LIGHT monsters.

Valhalla this card can let you play your fairies from hand if you have no monsters you control. This can let you cheat out Mozarta which can let you bring out another card. You will have to choose between this, 1st Movement, and Ostinato and pick the best option depending on the situation if you have all 3.

Now let's talk about the extenders. Run your extenders at 3. Again you for some reason choose not to. Canon the Melodious Diva, Sonata the Melodious Diva these can let you go into your Link 2 with EASE, the greatest of EASE.

Now as for a problem with some of the card choices. Crystal Rose, it's not a good card. You cannot convince me it is for Melodious. Mozarta is fine to run as a 1-2 of. Any more than that and you risk opening doubles more often of it. Which is bad for consistency. Solo the Melodious Songstress is also really bad as it requires your opponent to have a monster and you don't, which also conflicts with 1st Movement, Ostinato, and Valhalla.

Soprano is a 1 of if that, only because you only gain its effect on Special Summon, but being able to bring it out from their Link isn't too bad, which can let you fusion outside of Ostinato or Poly. It's not a card you want to open multiples of.

Opera, like why? You can make an "unbreakable" board without it. It does nothing for the deck.

Score is a hand trap, and it isn't even a hard once per turn, you can run this at 3 while also running Honest.

Tamtam, I see what you're doing by searching Poly with it, you have the right idea of running it at 1 just like Soprano should be run.

Serenade, is cute and all but only getting the extra normal summon after she was special summoned is really bad. I wouldn't run her.

Shopina doesn't do anything and locks you into light monster's effects which is really bad since you can run some hand traps like Ghost Belle (which can stop stuff like D.D. Crow and Called By or even stop Gamma).

I already spoke on Dimensional Prison, it's too slow. Stop running it. Also Melodious Illusion is really bad Your unbreakable board won't need that kind of protection.

Renji, the Crystal Rose work good in Gem-knight deck

DarwisBellium92 wrote:

Renji Asuka wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:These decks I made from scratch. Any constructive criticism would be helpful
Note: SAYING SCRAP THE DECK AND MAKE a "Insert name of deck that I don't like" ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10499694 Dark Magician
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10497059 Odd-eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10508395 D/D/D (shelved due to too many risks and complications)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10512024 Blue-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10514286 Blackwing (shelved due to people saying blackwing synchro monsters are outdated)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10516978 Melodious
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10517048 Red-Eyes ( Do not suggest Dragoon)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519816 SuperHeavy Samurai
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519010 Harpie
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10521523 Abyss Actors (hard work in progress)

So, I didn't see the melodious deck. I will admit, I have played the deck extensively in MR3. That being said, here's my feedback on it.

You keep having a tendency in putting your play starters at less than 3. This is something you should stop doing. Always put your play starters at 3.

1st Movement Solo needs to be at 3. Same with Ostinato. Ostinato let's you go into Schuberta the Melodious Maestra by sending Aria the Melodious Diva and Elegy the Melodious Diva to the GY which at the end of your turn, let's you create an "unbreakable" lock.

Celestial Transformation can help create your lock as well if one of your monsters are in the hand. It WILL attempt to destroy the monster at every end phase which Elegy can prevent. This card can also let you play Kristya which can prevent your opponent from Special Summoning as a 1 turn Vanity's Emptiness.

Photon Lead is the same thing as above, but doesn't halve the monster's atk or attempt to destroy. It's also strictly Level 4 LIGHT monsters.

Valhalla this card can let you play your fairies from hand if you have no monsters you control. This can let you cheat out Mozarta which can let you bring out another card. You will have to choose between this, 1st Movement, and Ostinato and pick the best option depending on the situation if you have all 3.

Now let's talk about the extenders. Run your extenders at 3. Again you for some reason choose not to. Canon the Melodious Diva, Sonata the Melodious Diva these can let you go into your Link 2 with EASE, the greatest of EASE.

Now as for a problem with some of the card choices. Crystal Rose, it's not a good card. You cannot convince me it is for Melodious. Mozarta is fine to run as a 1-2 of. Any more than that and you risk opening doubles more often of it. Which is bad for consistency. Solo the Melodious Songstress is also really bad as it requires your opponent to have a monster and you don't, which also conflicts with 1st Movement, Ostinato, and Valhalla.

Soprano is a 1 of if that, only because you only gain its effect on Special Summon, but being able to bring it out from their Link isn't too bad, which can let you fusion outside of Ostinato or Poly. It's not a card you want to open multiples of.

Opera, like why? You can make an "unbreakable" board without it. It does nothing for the deck.

Score is a hand trap, and it isn't even a hard once per turn, you can run this at 3 while also running Honest.

Tamtam, I see what you're doing by searching Poly with it, you have the right idea of running it at 1 just like Soprano should be run.

Serenade, is cute and all but only getting the extra normal summon after she was special summoned is really bad. I wouldn't run her.

Shopina doesn't do anything and locks you into light monster's effects which is really bad since you can run some hand traps like Ghost Belle (which can stop stuff like D.D. Crow and Called By or even stop Gamma).

I already spoke on Dimensional Prison, it's too slow. Stop running it. Also Melodious Illusion is really bad Your unbreakable board won't need that kind of protection.

Renji, the Crystal Rose work good in Gem-knight deck

Lil Oldman wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Lil Oldman wrote:Additionally, why silver's cry but no return of the dragon lords? Why are you running vanilla Ultimate Dragon when you aren't even running shinning Dragon and already have Alternative Ultimate and Neo Ultimate?

neo ultimates effect

And why run a useless vanilla instead of an additional Twin Burst. There's no reason to run a useless card when you can run a simple enough card.

greg503 wrote:

DarwisBellium92 wrote:

Renji Asuka wrote:So, I didn't see the melodious deck. I will admit, I have played the deck extensively in MR3. That being said, here's my feedback on it.

You keep having a tendency in putting your play starters at less than 3. This is something you should stop doing. Always put your play starters at 3.

1st Movement Solo needs to be at 3. Same with Ostinato. Ostinato let's you go into Schuberta the Melodious Maestra by sending Aria the Melodious Diva and Elegy the Melodious Diva to the GY which at the end of your turn, let's you create an "unbreakable" lock.

Celestial Transformation can help create your lock as well if one of your monsters are in the hand. It WILL attempt to destroy the monster at every end phase which Elegy can prevent. This card can also let you play Kristya which can prevent your opponent from Special Summoning as a 1 turn Vanity's Emptiness.

Photon Lead is the same thing as above, but doesn't halve the monster's atk or attempt to destroy. It's also strictly Level 4 LIGHT monsters.

Valhalla this card can let you play your fairies from hand if you have no monsters you control. This can let you cheat out Mozarta which can let you bring out another card. You will have to choose between this, 1st Movement, and Ostinato and pick the best option depending on the situation if you have all 3.

Now let's talk about the extenders. Run your extenders at 3. Again you for some reason choose not to. Canon the Melodious Diva, Sonata the Melodious Diva these can let you go into your Link 2 with EASE, the greatest of EASE.

Now as for a problem with some of the card choices. Crystal Rose, it's not a good card. You cannot convince me it is for Melodious. Mozarta is fine to run as a 1-2 of. Any more than that and you risk opening doubles more often of it. Which is bad for consistency. Solo the Melodious Songstress is also really bad as it requires your opponent to have a monster and you don't, which also conflicts with 1st Movement, Ostinato, and Valhalla.

Soprano is a 1 of if that, only because you only gain its effect on Special Summon, but being able to bring it out from their Link isn't too bad, which can let you fusion outside of Ostinato or Poly. It's not a card you want to open multiples of.

Opera, like why? You can make an "unbreakable" board without it. It does nothing for the deck.

Score is a hand trap, and it isn't even a hard once per turn, you can run this at 3 while also running Honest.

Tamtam, I see what you're doing by searching Poly with it, you have the right idea of running it at 1 just like Soprano should be run.

Serenade, is cute and all but only getting the extra normal summon after she was special summoned is really bad. I wouldn't run her.

Shopina doesn't do anything and locks you into light monster's effects which is really bad since you can run some hand traps like Ghost Belle (which can stop stuff like D.D. Crow and Called By or even stop Gamma).

I already spoke on Dimensional Prison, it's too slow. Stop running it. Also Melodious Illusion is really bad Your unbreakable board won't need that kind of protection.

Renji, the Crystal Rose work good in Gem-knight deck

Yes, that's the archtype it was designed for. This is a Melodious deck

Renji Asuka wrote:Here's what I really recommend to you. Especially after seeing the HERO deck.

Go netdeck a deck off of youtube, play it. Learn the deck. Then take it apart completely and build the deck from scratch using the knowledge you gained.

I did this with Metalfoes and I had a 90% win rate back in MR3.

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Renji Asuka wrote:Here's what I really recommend to you. Especially after seeing the HERO deck.

Go netdeck a deck off of youtube, play it. Learn the deck. Then take it apart completely and build the deck from scratch using the knowledge you gained.

I did this with Metalfoes and I had a 90% win rate back in MR3.

Can't make a deck from scratch if you are using one that was posted on youtube or something

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Renji Asuka wrote:Here's what I really recommend to you. Especially after seeing the HERO deck.

Go netdeck a deck off of youtube, play it. Learn the deck. Then take it apart completely and build the deck from scratch using the knowledge you gained.

I did this with Metalfoes and I had a 90% win rate back in MR3.

Can't make a deck from scratch if you are using one that was posted on youtube or something

Slitina wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Renji Asuka wrote:Here's what I really recommend to you. Especially after seeing the HERO deck.

Go netdeck a deck off of youtube, play it. Learn the deck. Then take it apart completely and build the deck from scratch using the knowledge you gained.

I did this with Metalfoes and I had a 90% win rate back in MR3.

Can't make a deck from scratch if you are using one that was posted on youtube or something

You can still make it from scratch, you use the deck profile as a guide on how to play the deck and then learn more then build your own take of the deck.

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Slitina wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:Can't make a deck from scratch if you are using one that was posted on youtube or something

You can still make it from scratch, you use the deck profile as a guide on how to play the deck and then learn more then build your own take of the deck.

building a deck from scratch means starting from square 1 without using anyone else's deck build to start with.

Slitina wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Slitina wrote: You can still make it from scratch, you use the deck profile as a guide on how to play the deck and then learn more then build your own take of the deck.

building a deck from scratch means starting from square 1 without using anyone else's deck build to start with.

then why make it in scratch in the first place like did you have any experience with any of the decks before you built them then maybe watching the anime.

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Slitina wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:building a deck from scratch means starting from square 1 without using anyone else's deck build to start with.

then why make it in scratch in the first place like did you have any experience with any of the decks before you built them then maybe watching the anime.

Seeing the archetype used in the anime gives me the rough idea of how they work

Lil Oldman wrote:You said you based a couple of your decks on duel links, so they aren't made from scratch, you have an idea of how they work (A wrong one most of the times, but an idea nonetheless)

Slitina wrote:

AnimeMasterDub wrote:

Slitina wrote: then why make it in scratch in the first place like did you have any experience with any of the decks before you built them then maybe watching the anime.

Seeing the archetype used in the anime gives me the rough idea of how they work

Yes that’s the same idea but with deck profiles or watch YouTube videos on how to play a certain deck and it gives you the actual knowledge on how the deck is mostly played in the physical card game and not the anime.