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Re: Automate freezes/bans when someone uses racist slurs or any mentions of self-harm

Post #21 by Renji Asuka » Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:24 pm

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PENMASTER wrote:if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly.
ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI

That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.

Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.

Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.

It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.

Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters.

They understand the severity, but they are only going to deal with it when it happens. It isn't accepted in Duelingbook.
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Post #22 by Genexwrecker » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:34 pm

parhelia_0000 wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
PENMASTER wrote:if you listen to what someone on the internet tells you to do to yourself its your own fault honestly.
ai is shit honestly and takes way to many resources when we already have the solution of man the fuck up and don't end up in one of those free speech slippery slopes with aI

That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.

Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.

Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.

It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.

Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters.


telling people to kill themselves or tellin them you are going to harm them are indeed crimes in most countries. that is why its one of the highest penalties on the site. I myself think that any death threat should be met with an instant permanent ban but thats just me. we have our penalty system and even if we did permanently ban people who made such threats. the ones who actually care to make those threats are going to just ban evade and keep doing it anyway same with facebook and twitter. The ammount of effort and resources required to get a random person on the internet arrested for telling you to kill yourself or threatening to blow up your house is massive and unrealistic especially if they are using a protected vpn. threats on the internet and threats irl are just generally handled differently and that is just the nature of things. he anonimity of the internet can be a good and bad thing.
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Post #23 by parhelia_0000 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:06 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:
parhelia_0000 wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:That's a really bad take. You never know the mindset of the person behind the screen. For all you know they could have depression and someone telling them to kill themselves may push them over the edge.

Also if you tell a person to kill themself and they do, you're legally responsible in the eyes of the law.

Thank you. This is what I've been trying to say, especially considering I lost some of my friends to suicide in the past so this topic really hits me home.

It really surprises me as to how many people are so insensitive to other people when it comes to things like this, and the last thing I want DB to turn into is a toxic environment where death threats and suicide encouragements become a norm.

Please, listen to reason about this. I made this suggestion topic with reason, and I hope that at least one of the admins will understand the severity regarding these matters.


telling people to kill themselves or tellin them you are going to harm them are indeed crimes in most countries. that is why its one of the highest penalties on the site. I myself think that any death threat should be met with an instant permanent ban but thats just me. we have our penalty system and even if we did permanently ban people who made such threats. the ones who actually care to make those threats are going to just ban evade and keep doing it anyway same with facebook and twitter. The ammount of effort and resources required to get a random person on the internet arrested for telling you to kill yourself or threatening to blow up your house is massive and unrealistic especially if they are using a protected vpn. threats on the internet and threats irl are just generally handled differently and that is just the nature of things. he anonimity of the internet can be a good and bad thing.

You and me both in terms of the penalties for death threats. I guess we both share a common interest in keeping DB a safe environment for everyone after all. Having said that, I understand where you're coming from, programming bots is difficult for all I know (nobody said programming in Python would be easy, that's for sure), and I'm sure the upkeep would be difficult.

Although, I do wish there were better ways members could be protected, but I guess that's just me.

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Post #24 by Lil Oldman » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:54 pm

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Post #25 by Christen57 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:50 pm

Apparently, even though we haven't gotten any automatic freeze/ban system in place, we have actual bots like the Google Bot reporting stuff to the admins.

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Post #26 by Lil Oldman » Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:18 am

I thought the bots simply inputed stuff at random.
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Post #27 by SPA-ghetto pizza » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:56 am

KITTYTROUBLE WHY DID U FREEZE ME CLAIMING I DID SOMETHING ABOUT TRIPLE TACTICS TALENT WHEN I WAS ALREADY FROZEN FOR 3 DAYS IT COULDNT POSSIBLY BE ME.

FROZE ME FOR NO VALID REASON

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Post #28 by Lil Oldman » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:08 am

"Complacency? How rude. I live the stifling life of a high school student in our problematic modern society."
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Post #29 by TheRoyalAu » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:20 am

Genexwrecker wrote:you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.



This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.
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Post #30 by greg503 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:44 am

TheRoyalAu wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.



This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

The DB Discord?
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Post #31 by itsmetristan » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:41 am

TheRoyalAu wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.



This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

Ping a moderator. You can also block them.
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Post #32 by TheRoyalAu » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:43 am

greg503 wrote:
TheRoyalAu wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.



This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

The DB Discord?


Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.
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Post #33 by TheRoyalAu » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:45 am

itsmetristan wrote:
TheRoyalAu wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:you have the ability to block users you do not wish to interract with. If they say 1 or 2 words to you then ignoring them and blocking them is an incredible option. Banning or freezing people for 1 insult or cuss word is not only extremely draconian but not how the world works anywhere outside of socialist states. Nobody is going to get arrested for calling somebody the n word once while passing them by on the street. We have rules and guidelines and they are actually very reasonable. harassing people generally gets you a warning then a temporary freeze. if you constantly commit the same infraction and show no intention to stop after several chances and punishments then you get removed from the site entirely. When you block harassers you take away all their power this is why we have implemented the feature so that we dont need to freeze everyone on the site constantly. If I froze everyone who called a person noob or moron or the r word half the site would be permanently banned at this point.



This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

Ping a moderator. You can also block them.



It doesn't matter sir, Shattered Sky along with Madi agreed with the entire Discord.

I think the site needs better complying people such as myself along with the author of this post, because we seem to understand, like yourself, what a ToS is.
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Post #34 by TheRoyalAu » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:47 am

SPA-ghetto pizza wrote:KITTYTROUBLE WHY DID U FREEZE ME CLAIMING I DID SOMETHING ABOUT TRIPLE TACTICS TALENT WHEN I WAS ALREADY FROZEN FOR 3 DAYS IT COULDNT POSSIBLY BE ME.

FROZE ME FOR NO VALID REASON


I hope you get f***ing banned mate. I know what your like in duels.

User promotes rape, lower aged consent for breeding, which is f***ing disgusting.....

Oh my good lord, the amount of time I'd ban them from the site for whilst complying with its Judge based rules.
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Post #35 by itsmetristan » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:45 pm

TheRoyalAu wrote:
itsmetristan wrote:
TheRoyalAu wrote:

This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

Ping a moderator. You can also block them.



It doesn't matter sir, Shattered Sky along with Madi agreed with the entire Discord.

I think the site needs better complying people such as myself along with the author of this post, because we seem to understand, like yourself, what a ToS is.

If two mods came to that conclusion, I find it incredibly hard to believe you're the victim here.
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Post #36 by Renji Asuka » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:22 am

TheRoyalAu wrote:
greg503 wrote:
TheRoyalAu wrote:

This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

The DB Discord?


Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.

Have you ever considered that your behavior may had make it worse to get yourself removed from the discord?
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Post #37 by Genexwrecker » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:52 pm

TheRoyalAu wrote:
greg503 wrote:
TheRoyalAu wrote:

This is kind of contradictory, considering there were a lot of users calling me retarded on the Discord which ended up with myself being removed from the Discord Server entirely.

The DB Discord?


Yes. I get called names, then I get banned. I will not be accepting any one staff member's excuses either. This was entirely un-called for. The users that called me a retard are being investigated by Discord themselves.
pretty sure I saw you retaliate in a very inappropriate manner on the discord which is probably why ur banned.
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