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Goat Format Challenge

Post #1 by CrystalMusic » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:25 am

I here by declare an open challenge to any and all who want to duel against me in Goat Format. HOWEVER: No Top Tier (That means No Thunder Dragons) No Discard Effects, No D.D Cards, oR affecting opponents cards except by a counter trap card

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Post #2 by Debt » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:09 am

This is just more skill removal

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Post #3 by CrystalMusic » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:54 pm

Debt wrote:This is just more skill removal


a "skilled" duelist doesnt need to use a top tier deck!

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Post #4 by Kappa Mikey » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:12 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:
Debt wrote:This is just more skill removal


a "skilled" duelist doesnt need to use a top tier deck!

What's with the quotation marks? Are we supposed to consider through that irony that you mean everyone but skilled duelists and, thus, just them are exempt of having to use a top tier deck? Or this is some sort of deep, unintended criticism for people located on the peak of cognitive bias of the Dunning-Krueger effect, like yourself?

Anyway, this was definitively an interesting episode. I managed to catch some of the duels in that challenge. Despite many of them following the mentioned "rules", there were still some conflicts, like:

Axe of Despair being too common, despite you having it in your deck in an earlier duel (https://imgur.com/zEuUx7h): https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=13486450
Parasite Paracide being "unoriginal": https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=13486523
Mystical Space Typhoon being "the biggest troll card in yugioh": https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=13486869
Playing blatantly defensively and complaining about removal effects being used: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=13487133 , even if said effects were from a card not even used at that point: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=13487286

I mean, sure, alongside many duel notes you added to this challenge (like in: https://imgur.com/slAeAP0) there was, in your "rules", the clause for "affecting opponents cards except by a counter trap card". That alone makes quite impossible to deal with a continuous effect of a card that has already been activated, rendering most monsters unable to destroy by battle your Royal Magical Library. And way less viable if they have to resort to "too common" equip spells to boost their weaker monsters before your Exodia is assembled.

But maybe there was some hope for your opponent in all this: Jinzo. Or so we though, despite actually been seen in your deck during the Parasite Paracide replay: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=13487363


So, yeah, like Debt said, this challenge was definitively skill removal: You removed the skill needed to make an Exodia deck work by limiting your opponent and continuously removing all other maneuvers they did to win against a stall deck, despite all restrictions. You just wanted an easy victory with your childhood cards, even if it required you to be obnoxious, hypocrite and unfair. That's no challenge, that's expecting random DuelingBook users to be voluntary babysitters to your whims.

Get some help, or, at least, a friend, instead of doing this to strangers. This kind of behaviour is beyond excuses at this point.

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Post #5 by thetys » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:34 pm

^
what mikey said but 400 times less eloquently

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Post #6 by Neo_Fire_Sonic » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:41 pm

Crystal music is not allowed to lose, its his game, crystal-gi-oh

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Post #7 by Debt » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:11 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:a "skilled" duelist doesnt need to use a top tier deck!

It's not about losing access to a top tier deck. It's about the blatant removal of skill differentiation that you attempt to enforce.

Let's say you're in a theoretical 100% mirror match where your opponent is slightly less skilled than you but does know how to pilot your deck competently. What can you do as a player to guarantee a win? Well with your duel rules and deck building: nothing. There's no proper sequencing of cards, there's no room for misplays due to simplicity, there's no outplay potential, counterplay tools don't exist, there's simply no opportunity to using cards better. It's either stall or a numbers check. You've created an environment where it's not the better player that wins, but the luckier player who draws into the big dumb beater win con before the other.


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