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I recently learned that if I use Nobleman of Crossout, or similar cards, that the opponent is not required to reveal their deck to me (even though the card literally says that both players need to reveal their decks).

I understand what their reasoning for this is because people could take a screenshot or notes, for example. But there are some issues to this.

One, both players have to reveal, so the information given is equal for both. Since both players reveal their decks, both players are able to see the entire deck of each other.

Two, not allowing the card to work as the card literally says it works nerfs Nobleman of Crossout. One of the benefits of the card is that it does give you extra information about your opponent's deck which could help you or them beat you in that game. Knowing that my opponent has all of their Sakuretsu Armors, Mirror Force, etc. in their deck could help me to decide if I attack or not. This weird ruling on DuelingBook makes Nobleman of Crossout worse even though in real life, my opponent would need to reveal their deck to me and I to them.

Third, and this is an issue I had a judge say to me in my game. They said that if I think my opponent is lying and then draws the flip card and pretends that it was always in their hand, that I should watch the replay and report them for cheating. I asked if I would get my lossed rank back due to this cheating and they said no. The issue here is that because I cannot confirm if my opponent is telling the truth or not about no more copies of a card being in their deck, two things happen. One, I could lose to this and not get rank back due to my opponent cheating, which is an issue. And two, this wastes judges time to have to come in and confirm that the opponent already had the card in their hand or to ban that player if they were cheating.

So, this rule should be taken away and, especially in GOAT Format, where Nobleman of Crossout is used primarily. Allow the card to operate how it says it should operate on the card to avoid potential cheaters and the wasting of judge's time. Also, it prevents the card from being nerfed.

[quote="ThyPirateKing":scln3e65]I recently learned that if I use Nobleman of Crossout, or similar cards, that the opponent is not required to reveal their deck to me (even though the card literally says that both players need to reveal their decks).

I understand what their reasoning for this is because people could take a screenshot or notes, for example. But there are some issues to this.

One, both players have to reveal, so the information given is equal for both. Since both players reveal their decks, both players are able to see the entire deck of each other.

Two, not allowing the card to work as the card literally says it works nerfs Nobleman of Crossout. One of the benefits of the card is that it does give you extra information about your opponent's deck which could help you or them beat you in that game. Knowing that my opponent has all of their Sakuretsu Armors, Mirror Force, etc. in their deck could help me to decide if I attack or not. This weird ruling on DuelingBook makes Nobleman of Crossout worse even though in real life, my opponent would need to reveal their deck to me and I to them.

Third, and this is an issue I had a judge say to me in my game. They said that if I think my opponent is lying and then draws the flip card and pretends that it was always in their hand, that I should watch the replay and report them for cheating. I asked if I would get my lossed rank back due to this cheating and they said no. The issue here is that because I cannot confirm if my opponent is telling the truth or not about no more copies of a card being in their deck, two things happen. One, I could lose to this and not get rank back due to my opponent cheating, which is an issue. And two, this wastes judges time to have to come in and confirm that the opponent already had the card in their hand or to ban that player if they were cheating.

So, this rule should be taken away and, especially in GOAT Format, where Nobleman of Crossout is used primarily. Allow the card to operate how it says it should operate on the card to avoid potential cheaters and the wasting of judge's time. Also, it prevents the card from being nerfed.[/quote:scln3e65]
"Target 1 face-down monster on the field; destroy that target, and if you do, banish it, then, if it was a Flip monster, each player reveals their Main Deck, then banishes all cards from it with that monster's name."