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Judges on a Power Trip: Hey Dude
GayNProud
#1
And the saga continues with these judges.

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=623896-63331935

Hey Dude directly coached my opponent on his options on how to respond to my Sky Striker spell effect. A piece of information that not only could help my opponent in making their decision on how to respond, it indeed, won them that g1.

Hey Dude's rationale to this not being coaching is the quote he found: "Judges should answer questions about: o Game mechanics o The legality of the activation of an effect o Card text Questions such as the above should have a bearing on the current Game State."

He claims that this is situation was a "Game Mechanics" one. Huh? How?

TRAIN. YOUR. JUDGES! Without the player base, there is no Duelingbook. Therefore, respect us enough to listen to us. You are not angels. You are not Fairy types. Thanks.
MonsterSlayer
#2
I just had an interaction with this judge. He gave me "uc major" and a game loss for saying "idiot". My opp says I'm hacking, using the f word and calling me a cheater for misclicking on "shuffle" instead of "draw" and my opp gets "uc minor"
Cromat
#3
I'll wait for Genexwrecker's comment before getting involved.
Genexwrecker
#4
This was a question about conjunctions not asking will X move give me more advantage.
Questions like this absolutely must be answered when asked to a judge and in this manner as well. This helps prevent any illegal resolutions of effects with that questioned conjunction which is part of the judges job. yes this may look like coaching to 99% of players who do not understand judging but this is at its core a generic conjunction question and a generic conjunction answer was given to adress any and all conjunction effects from possibly resolving incorrectly and damaging the gamestate.
Genexwrecker
#5
[quote="MonsterSlayer":5bxlymzn]I just had an interaction with this judge. He gave me "uc major" and a game loss for saying "idiot". My opp says I'm hacking, using the f word and calling me a cheater for misclicking on "shuffle" instead of "draw" and my opp gets "uc minor"[/quote:5bxlymzn]
please do not lie especially when trying to call a judge out when you are the one in the wrong. you called your opponent an asshole. Hey dude then arrived and gave you a uc minor for calling them an asshole and immediately after that warning you decided to call ur opp an idiot for calling a judge leading to your uc major upgrade. ur opp did not do anything to get a uc major upgrade as they did not mess with the judge past the warning that was given.
MonsterSlayer
#6
Nah, that's bs. The way this judge is typing, it's all being translated. He thinks I'm calling him and idiot. I refuse to believe any person who can tolerate "asshole" but not "idiot" . Those are tiers apart in bad words terms.
Genexwrecker
#7
[quote="MonsterSlayer":1n1pi8jt]Nah, that's bs. The way this judge is typing, it's all being translated. He thinks I'm calling him and idiot. I refuse to believe any person who can tolerate "asshole" but not "idiot" . Those are tiers apart in bad words terms.[/quote:1n1pi8jt]
you said one directly after a warning for uc. the judge was within their right to have 0 tolerance for the language. standing alone one is worse than the other but when you put them together in this sequence of events and you make idiot far worse than normal.
MonsterSlayer
#8
I cannot be bothered to reason with u buddy. I should've just written down the worst words known to man in one sentence, gotten a uc minor and just shut the hell up. U see the replay, his sharking will instantly make u say"what an asshole".
What I find worse than normal is that when I need a judge I wait an hour and none show up and I end up quitting the duel(has happened more than 30 times for sure). When sharks call judge they show up within 10 secs. I was laughing when this just happened. I am just never gonna take any bs from any judge anymore, I'll quit any and all duels instantly that require judges.
Peace out and have a good day to anyone who is reading.
Renji Asuka
#9
[quote="GayNProud":1oqk4met]And the saga continues with these judges.

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=623896-63331935

Hey Dude directly coached my opponent on his options on how to respond to my Sky Striker spell effect. A piece of information that not only could help my opponent in making their decision on how to respond, it indeed, won them that g1.

Hey Dude's rationale to this not being coaching is the quote he found: "Judges should answer questions about: o Game mechanics o The legality of the activation of an effect o Card text Questions such as the above should have a bearing on the current Game State."

He claims that this is situation was a "Game Mechanics" one. Huh? How?

TRAIN. YOUR. JUDGES! Without the player base, there is no Duelingbook. Therefore, respect us enough to listen to us. You are not angels. You are not Fairy types. Thanks.[/quote:1oqk4met]
Your opponent literally asked how exactly your card would resolve due to a mechanic in the game.

You then refused to answer the question because you deem it as "coaching" when it isn't.

Coaching would be for example "Hey, I had 3 set cards and I'm thinking about playing Magic Drain, Magic Jammer, or Imperial Order so what would be my best move be?"

It would not be "How does your card work exactly? Do you have to destroy one of my spell/traps to pop one of my monsters?" especially when there are cards that would require the 1st action to be performed to do the 2nd action and other cards not so much.

The judge did not guide the player into what move they should make, your opponent was already thinking about responding Diabell.

This isn't talking about how you illegally targeted a negated monster's effect with Widow Anchor and your opponent gave you information on why that wouldn't work. Yet you don't have the respect to do the same for the opponent?

You then say to your opponent and I quote " oh i have no issues with u, we had a ruling or game dispute thats not a problem it happens" but apparently it was such a problem you tried to cheat your opponent and be completely uncooperative, when you could had just answered the question about the game mechanic from the get go, this of course is implying you knew the actual answer.

Honestly, you're putting yourself into the situation that gets a judge to rule against you.

Now I'm willing to bet if the judge had sided with you for any reason, you would not had made this thread. I genuinely believe that you think you're always going to be right and if any judge disagrees with you, they are a tyrant. That's frankly a problematic disposition to have and if I was a judge, you'd be perma frozen as you just cause nothing but problems for the staff.
Cromat
#10
:evil: That Judge gave me incorrect ruling, and his given verdict cost me the game.

Source (1):
Source (2):
Renji Asuka
#11
[quote="Cromat":qx2mygcg]:evil: That Judge gave me incorrect ruling, and his given verdict cost me the game.

Source (1):
Source (2): [/quote:qx2mygcg]
The only time you would go to EP is if your opponent played Thunder of Ruler or a card like it when paired with that ritual monster.

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Thunder_of_Ruler

Also the judge just got the ruling wrong, judges are only human and they make mistakes.

Your opponent also literally tried to help you out and you wanted to argue with them on it.

I don't know why you'd argue with an opponent who is trying to help you so you can at least play cards.
Cromat
#12
[quote="Renji Asuka":hhwpc6un]
The only time you would go to EP is if your opponent played Thunder of Ruler or a card like it when paired with that ritual monster.

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Thunder_of_Ruler

Also the judge just got the ruling wrong, judges are only human and they make mistakes.

Your opponent also literally tried to help you out and you wanted to argue with them on it.

I don't know why you'd argue with an opponent who is trying to help you so you can at least play cards.[/quote:hhwpc6un]

Where is the evidence that my opponent is trying to help me?
Renji Asuka
#13
[quote="Cromat":1t5cdja7][quote="Renji Asuka":1t5cdja7]
The only time you would go to EP is if your opponent played Thunder of Ruler or a card like it when paired with that ritual monster.

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Thunder_of_Ruler

Also the judge just got the ruling wrong, judges are only human and they make mistakes.

Your opponent also literally tried to help you out and you wanted to argue with them on it.

I don't know why you'd argue with an opponent who is trying to help you so you can at least play cards.[/quote:1t5cdja7]

Where is the evidence that my opponent is trying to help me?[/quote:1t5cdja7]
Literally in your replay when they tried to tell you that you still get your Battle Phase and can go into Main Phase 2.

[7:41] "you still have main 2"

[8:13] "you still get the battl ephase"

[8:21] "battle* phase"

[9:04] "you still get the battle phase only main 1 is skipped. you attempt to enter it and you get sent to end of main enter battle"

[9:51] "...i feel like i shouldnt be convincing you to play...bro believe what you want if you wanna pass, pass"

[10:49] "you're arguing and calling the judge because you want to skip your turn...and im telling you hey no its okay you can play lol"

This is just 6 instances of your opponent trying to help you. Yet you were hellbent on thinking your entire turn was skipped.

Literally you created the problem
Cromat
#14
[quote="Renji Asuka":3rh9sihg]
Literally you created the problem[/quote:3rh9sihg]

Literally I created the problem, yes; because calling a Judge is considered creating problems on this platform.
Renji Asuka
#15
[quote="Cromat":bt0mkl34][quote="Renji Asuka":bt0mkl34]
Literally you created the problem[/quote:bt0mkl34]

Literally I created the problem, yes; because calling a Judge is considered creating problems on this platform.[/quote:bt0mkl34]
Wrong, you created the problem by arguing with your opponent when they were trying to help you and let you know that you can still play the game but for some reason you decided to die on the hill that your entire turn is skipped. You then called a judge on a ruling that ruled in your favor and they had the ruling wrong and then you act shocked that you lost because the judge didn't have the right ruling and sided with you?

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Remember Judges are human too, they can make mistakes that doesn't mean they were on power trip in your case.
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