2 cards made to counter those who "Abuse" Dark Hole & Heavy Storm
- CrystalMusic
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2 cards made to counter those who "Abuse" Dark Hole & Heavy Storm
Most players only activate "Heavy Storm" when only their opponent controls Spells/Traps
Most players only activate "Dark Hole" when only their opponent controls Monsters
These cards counters those kinds of players and quite simply reverses the effects of "Dark Hole" & "Heavy Storm" to only destroy cards on the same side of the field as the player who activated "Dark Hole" and "Heavy Storm" instead of both players. Then it changes the effect of any "Dark Hole" or Heavy Storm" played later on to only destroy cards on the same side of the field as the player who activated it:
https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=1887929
https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=1887921
BTW these are public!
Most players only activate "Dark Hole" when only their opponent controls Monsters
These cards counters those kinds of players and quite simply reverses the effects of "Dark Hole" & "Heavy Storm" to only destroy cards on the same side of the field as the player who activated "Dark Hole" and "Heavy Storm" instead of both players. Then it changes the effect of any "Dark Hole" or Heavy Storm" played later on to only destroy cards on the same side of the field as the player who activated it:
https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=1887929
https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=1887921
BTW these are public!
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Okay, and what if your opponent plays Lightning Storm and blows them both up?
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Why not just run Starlight Road?
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- CrystalMusic
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DuskWill wrote:Why not just run Starlight Road?
because its not as effective as my cards are. all you get is a 2500 atk dragon that can tribute itself to negate a card that lists "Destroy" in its effect and then it comes back at the EP. mine reverses the effects permanently
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CrystalMusic wrote:DuskWill wrote:Why not just run Starlight Road?
because its not as effective as my cards are. all you get is a 2500 atk dragon that can tribute itself to negate a card that lists "Destroy" in its effect and then it comes back at the EP. mine reverses the effects permanently
Except you have alternatives such as Raigeki, Harpies Feather Duster, and Lightining Storm that makes these cards virtually useless.
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CrystalMusic wrote:because its not as effective as my cards are. all you get is a 2500 atk dragon that can tribute itself to negate a card that lists "Destroy" in its effect and then it comes back at the EP. mine reverses the effects permanently
Stardust summoned by Starlight Road wouldn't come back at EP because it wasn't summoned properly. But that's besides the point, your evaluation is laughably incorrect.
1. A 2500 body for free is nothing to scoff at. But you don't see the game properly so you think 2500 atk is insignificant when it runs over the majority of the game.
2. Starlight Road answers more cards than just Heavy Storm and Dark Hole
3. Stardust's effect can negate things other than mass destruction
4. It's highly unlikely that an opponent will use more than 1 heavy or 2 dark holes so countering those cards directly is a waste
5. Cards that specifically answer 1 card have never performed well. Anti-Raigeki, White Hole, Gryphon Wing and Call of the Grave all suck because they can only answer 1 card in the entire game.
6. As continuous traps they are vulnerable to quickplay removal like MST chaining to them due to the nature of continuous spells and traps.
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CrystalMusic wrote:DuskWill wrote:Why not just run Starlight Road?
because its not as effective as my cards are. all you get is a 2500 atk dragon that can tribute itself to negate a card that lists "Destroy" in its effect and then it comes back at the EP. mine reverses the effects permanently
Just a reminder that the Stardust Dragon summoned by Starlight Road won't be able to summon itself back on the field in the end phase.
Perhaps a better alternative would be consider the ephemerality of cards on the field when creating your decks, so you don't have to rely on custom ones made for such specific scenarios.
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Shite PSCT, extremely punishing for niche cards no one even plays.
CrystalMusic, if I pulled this kind of effect on you, I guarantee you, you WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT. Also, the first card violates your rules of not touching other players hands.
#CrystalMusicTheHypocrite
CrystalMusic, if I pulled this kind of effect on you, I guarantee you, you WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT. Also, the first card violates your rules of not touching other players hands.
#CrystalMusicTheHypocrite
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Renji Asuka wrote:Shite PSCT, extremely punishing for niche cards no one even plays.
CrystalMusic, if I pulled this kind of effect on you, I guarantee you, you WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT. Also, the first card violates your rules of not touching other players hands.
#CrystalMusicTheHypocrite
Oh he never cared about the rules he makes up, especially when they stop benefiting him.
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Renji Asuka wrote:Shite PSCT, extremely punishing for niche cards no one even plays.
CrystalMusic, if I pulled this kind of effect on you, I guarantee you, you WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT. Also, the first card violates your rules of not touching other players hands.
#CrystalMusicTheHypocrite
that no one plays??? who the heck are you dueling that no one runs dark hole of heavy storm?
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CrystalMusic wrote:that no one plays??? who the heck are you dueling that no one runs dark hole of heavy storm?
I don't run it.
I have interest in badly designed custom cards.
You saw these cards as terrible, I saw them as ideas.
You saw these cards as terrible, I saw them as ideas.
CrystalMusic wrote:that no one plays??? who the heck are you dueling that no one runs dark hole of heavy storm?
No one runs Dark Hole except casuals
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CrystalMusic wrote:Renji Asuka wrote:Shite PSCT, extremely punishing for niche cards no one even plays.
CrystalMusic, if I pulled this kind of effect on you, I guarantee you, you WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT. Also, the first card violates your rules of not touching other players hands.
#CrystalMusicTheHypocrite
that no one plays??? who the heck are you dueling that no one runs dark hole of heavy storm?
Oh didn't you know? In the current format, Dark Hole and Heavy Storm are no longer viable. But seeing that you don't play the current format you wouldn't know this.
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CrystalMusic wrote:Renji Asuka wrote:Shite PSCT, extremely punishing for niche cards no one even plays.
CrystalMusic, if I pulled this kind of effect on you, I guarantee you, you WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT. Also, the first card violates your rules of not touching other players hands.
#CrystalMusicTheHypocrite
that no one plays??? who the heck are you dueling that no one runs dark hole of heavy storm?
Why would I play Dark Hole or Heavy Storm when I can play better cards?
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The activation requirement for the dark hole counter is so specific like really when your opponent has no monsters smh.
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Reminder that Heavy Storm is banned in current format because sometimes you get more destroying all Spells/Traps than just destroying your opponent's. Also White Hole already exists, and is actually better because it negates Dark Hole regardless, again sometimes you benefit more off of destroying all monsters than just destroying your opponent's (e.g. Babycerasaurus).
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