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Re: Banned from rated

Post #201 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:01 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:
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d1234 wrote:Yes, admins make the rules, but cannot change them AFTER someone makes a so-called offence and expect them to apply


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The information contained here is subject to change without prior notice. It's your responsibility to stay up to date.

That's what it says. You can't argue that the admins "cannot change them". Period. You need to stay up to date. If you don't, that's your fault. Also, the admins didn't change the part of the rules regarding boosting for the past several weeks as far as I'm aware.

it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.

So a judge can ban someone just because they feel like it?
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Post #202 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:09 pm

Well, not you kijani, but (mostly) everyone else.
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Post #203 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:13 pm

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I don't get how this is supposed to refute my argument. Yes you are responsible for any rule-breaking on duelingbook that happens on your network as well as on your account, which is why you take measures to keep both of those safe from malicious users, such as password-protecting your account, your wi-fi, your computer, making sure you don't share the password to any of those with anyone else, as well as locking your doors to your home and having alarm systems and surveillance systems to increase safety and security.

The only way I could see someone "hacking" into a secure wi-fi would be brute-forcing, which would literally take months if not years to do since you're basically trying literally every possible password you can think of until one of them happens to be the right one.

It is ,ent to be a question. Let’s say that they get lucky, and guess right quickly. In theory, would you be punished?


You still don't seem to understand how extremely unlikely anything like that happening would be. Allow me to break it down for you.

In order for someone to first "break into" my home, they must first figure out exactly where my home it. Currently, there are at least a billion homes on this planet, so a guy looking to brute-force his way into my network would have to first check each and every one of these billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I am in.

Once he manages to do that... somehow... he needs to get past my house's alarm system. This alarm system requires a 4-digit numerical code to deactivate. The possible digits are 0 through 9, which makes a total of 10 numbers. This means that a system that requires a 4-digit code with each digit being 1 of 10 possible numbers has a total of 10,000 different possible combinations. You get this number by multiplying 10 to the 4th power.

After this man goes through all 10,000 of the possible combinations, which is almost impossible since the alarm goes off if you enter the wrong code after about 4 or 5 times, he then needs to figure out the password to my wi-fi.

There are 26 lowercase letters in the alphabet along with 26 uppercase letters in the alphabet, plus 10 one-digit numbers — zero through nine — along with at least 20 additional special characters such as !@#$ and so on. That makes at least 82 possible characters a password 1 character long could be, so if you tried to guess a 1-character password correctly on your first try, you would have at most a 1/82 chance of doing so.

My wi-fi password happens to be at least 15 characters long. To calculate the odds of guessing a 15-character password correctly on your first try, we simply multiply 82 to the fifteenth power — 82^15 — and the result is 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568.

In other words, you have literally a 1 in 50,957,461,585,642,714,263,997,677,568 chance of guessing my password correctly on your first try.

Your chances of guessing a 15-digit password correctly "quickly" is literally less than 0.000000000000000000000000002%. That is a zero, followed by a dot, followed by 26 more zeroes, followed by the number 2, followed by the percent symbol.

That's over 50 octillion different possible passwords you would have to go through to guess my wi-fi password.

You know how much an octillion is, right?

This is a million: 1,000,000.

This is a billion: 1,000,000,000.

This is a trillion: 1,000,000,000,000.

This is a quadrillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

This is a septillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

And this is an octillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

That's how much an octillion is.

But wait! There's more!

You also have to factor in the possibility of this bad guy getting caught breaking into my home and the police catching and arresting him.

Do you really think a guy would go through billions of homes on this planet to figure out which one I'm in, go through thousands of different possible alarm passcodes to figure out which one deactivates my alarm, then go through octillions of different possible passwords to figure out which one the correct one, all at the risk of getting caught by police and sentenced to years in prison, just to break some rules of a children's card game? I know I don't.

You do realize that all of that would literally take decades to accomplish, if not centuries, assuming you guess 10 passwords a second? Do you realize that you have a far better chance of winning the multi-billion dollar lottery at least 4 times in a row? Why on earth would someone waste their time trying to break into a random family's wi-fi to get someone banned from a children's card game and risk jail time when they are more likely to win the powerball jackpot of over 500 million dollars and the mega million jackpot of over 400 million dollars 4 times in a row?

How about instead we say the see a wifi password on your fridge through a kitchen window, press up against the side of your house and use you wifi. (I know this might not apply directly to you but it is not extremely uncommon either)
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Post #204 by DarkPhenix » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:13 pm

Its funny how you guys seem to always focus on the wrong topic. These rules are guidelines to general misconduct etc. What you guys dont seem to get is that Admins have discretion to apply punishments that are either harsher or less harsher depending the infraction and the HISTORY of the user. When people come here to complain they have been banned, HISTORY is never brought up as a topic. Additionally, administrators are chosen because of their ability to make the right calls. Now stop shitposting and abusing admins. They already get enough of that. Everyone knows that purposely losing again and again is not healthy for the rated pool. Additionally, everyone knows its called negative boosting. Get over it. Thanks!
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Post #205 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:20 pm

DarkPhenix wrote:Its funny how you guys seem to always focus on the wrong topic. These rules are guidelines to general misconduct etc. What you guys dont seem to get is that Admins have discretion to apply punishments that are either harsher or less harsher depending the infraction and the HISTORY of the user. When people come here to complain they have been banned, HISTORY is never brought up as a topic. Additionally, administrators are chosen because of their ability to make the right calls. Now stop shitposting and abusing admins. They already get enough of that. Everyone knows that purposely losing again and again is not healthy for the rated pool. Additionally, everyone knows its called negative boosting. Get over it. Thanks!

I believe the judge exam only covers yugioh rules. Also, I have looked back at other complaints of people being banned, and I think the judges are wrong then too most of the time. Also, the admins are the ones ABUSING their authority. AND if you look at Dark Cyborg’s history, this is the only bad thing that has happened.
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Post #206 by DarkPhenix » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:21 pm

Nice alt dude.
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Post #207 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:22 pm

DarkPhenix wrote:Nice alt dude.

What do you mean
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Post #208 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:40 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:boosting is not harmless it unfairly affects the booster and everyone they come across. we would not allow such users to be in ranked.

How could someone get hurt from boosting
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Post #209 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:48 pm

Lil Oldman wrote:
kijani wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:it has not changed boosting still includes but is not limited by the examples on the page. It is up to a judge and the judge team if x action falls under X category of the rule page.


Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right


Actually law can do that. The example above that explains about how the FDA allows up to 20 worms for each 100 grams of mushrooms, but in reality you can get sued for much smaller amounts like 5 worms.

Not in every country (Mostly only happens in dictatorships)
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Post #210 by Lil Oldman » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:55 pm

d1234 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
kijani wrote:
Imagine if you got arrested for a crime that isn't written down as law. That'd be wild right


Actually law can do that. The example above that explains about how the FDA allows up to 20 worms for each 100 grams of mushrooms, but in reality you can get sued for much smaller amounts like 5 worms.

Not in every country (Mostly only happens in dictatorships)

Didnt knew that the US was a dictatorship :D
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Post #211 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:57 pm

I didn’t know you didn’t know what mostly meant
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Post #212 by Lil Oldman » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:00 pm

d1234 wrote:I didn’t know you didn’t know what mostly meant

abbreviation for Food and Drug Administration: a government organization in the US that makes rules for the safety of food and medicines
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Post #213 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:06 pm

Lil Oldman wrote:
d1234 wrote:I didn’t know you didn’t know what mostly meant

abbreviation for Food and Drug Administration: a government organization in the US that makes rules for the safety of food and medicines

All I am saying is that rules should be mad to be followed, not over followed.
And I know the US is not a dictatorship, why would you think I would, I said mostly.
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Post #214 by PENMASTER » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:10 pm

so people cant mess around on rated without getting their friends banned that's cool so no one can mess around without having a chance to hurt other accounts on the same computer
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Post #215 by PENMASTER » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:12 pm

also reading a bit more into the moment someone put up some logic and evidence its called an alt
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Post #216 by PENMASTER » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:13 pm

also reading a bit more into the moment someone put up some logic and evidence its called an alt
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Post #217 by PENMASTER » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:13 pm

crap double posted by accident
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Post #218 by d1234 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:52 pm

PENMASTER wrote:so people cant mess around on rated without getting their friends banned that's cool so no one can mess around without having a chance to hurt other accounts on the same computer

Can you please restate this with correct punctuation, as I (honestly) do not understand.
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Post #219 by Jedx_EX » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:28 am

alt - Alternate account

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Post #220 by PENMASTER » Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:54 am

its just about how people cant share a computer and mess around on their individual accounts or both will receive punishment. like punishing someone's brother for something the other brother did
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