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Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:31 am
by XtevensChannel
Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Can it be abused? Should this only be allowed in certain situations?

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:37 am
by Pyukunuke
It doesn't sound like a bad idea but I hate the idea of someone going over the replay and seeing what their opponent could have done (Whether it was a mistake on the opponent's end or not) and being rude to them in private messages or calling them out on the main menu
But if someone were to do that, that would be on them

Lets just see where it goes

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:37 am
by Coughy
In a match you should only be able to see the replay once the match is over. You should also be able to check their deck (unless that can be abused some way)

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:41 am
by Crimson7Reaper
I wouldn't mind being able to see what my opponent had, then I could figure out what I could have done to not lose the duel or what cards I should add into my deck to get a better chance of playing over my opponent's responses.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:43 am
by Pyukunuke
I don't agree with Coughy when it comes to viewing their deck since it was made by the other player
I don't think some people would like it if some people were to copy their list without their permission

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:48 am
by Crimson7Reaper
Pyukunuke wrote:I don't agree with Coughy when it comes to viewing their deck since it was made by the other player
I don't think some people would like it if some people were to copy their list without their permission


But it's Yugioh. Most competitive builds are going to look almost identical regardless. It doesn't matter if they don't want others to copy their list, their list probably isn't even theirs in the first place.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:53 am
by Pyukunuke
Crimson7Reaper wrote:
Pyukunuke wrote:I don't agree with Coughy when it comes to viewing their deck since it was made by the other player
I don't think some people would like it if some people were to copy their list without their permission


But it's Yugioh. Most competitive builds are going to look almost identical regardless. It doesn't matter if they don't want others to copy their list, their list probably isn't even theirs in the first place.


I like to look at it from someone else's perspective
Plus, you can look up a decklist on google anyway, but we are just talking about whether replays should show their opponent's hand or not
I know we may not agree with each other but, we will just see what Xteven wants to do and leave it at that

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:32 pm
by the flaming storm
well as said competitive players run the same deck of everyone so " netdeck " isnt even an issue since you can find the deck on google in the first place. i think it would be useful to see in specific situations if it was a good idea to do a certain play or another so this feature will most likely be useful to get better at the game

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:39 pm
by Runzy
Dope why not

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:00 am
by Genexwrecker
do it and see how it goes. if it has problems which i doubt it will just remove it

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:24 pm
by Pfannkuchen
This will prevent people from Cheating or at least they can be punished afterwards if they do illegal plays with this whole new "verification rule", so I like it.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:08 pm
by XtevensChannel
I'm wondering if it should only show both hands if it's a rated game, or if there should be a similar restriction.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:15 pm
by the flaming storm
XtevensChannel wrote:I'm wondering if it should only show both hands if it's a rated game, or if there should be a similar restriction.


show for both rated and unrated please

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:23 pm
by Alisae
Cool

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:17 am
by Barron Trump
It would be a good thing for a couple of reasons:

- It would help those who are competitive or want to improve their game to see if they made the correct play or could've done something different.
- It could help deter people who try to cheat.

It might be minimal in the latter but so far with the recent solo mode DB is upping its game.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:25 pm
by Genexwrecker
XtevensChannel wrote:I'm wondering if it should only show both hands if it's a rated game, or if there should be a similar restriction.
both rated and unrated. this would be very helpful for tournaments and wars

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:18 pm
by XtevensChannel
What we have now is that replays that would normally show one hand now show both hands. Replays that didn't show either hand still show neither hand.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:44 am
by Jazz
We really need a way to turn off this new feature if we want to. When I review a game I want to watch it as it actually happened so I can analyze the situation as realistically as possible. Having perfect knowledge of the opponents cards is counter productive to learning via review. My goal is to get better at the game and the game is not played with info revealed.

Quite frankly it's also more entertaining and less distracting not to see all of the opponent's cards. Showing the hand removes all the drama and the suspense that make yugioh great.

I actually think the opponent's hand should be hidden by default but all I really need is a button so I can go back to hiding it. I really liked the old replays. Thanks.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:04 am
by BuildTheWalia
I would love for there be a toggle for those who don't want to see, it would eliminate the need for a "yes or no" option.

Re: Should Replays Show Both Players' Hands?

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:05 am
by Morpp_SSB
Jazz wrote:We really need a way to turn off this new feature if we want to. When I review a game I want to watch it as it actually happened so I can analyze the situation as realistically as possible. Having perfect knowledge of the opponents cards is counter productive to learning via review. My goal is to get better at the game and the game is not played with info revealed.

Quite frankly it's also more entertaining and less distracting not to see all of the opponent's cards. Showing the hand removes all the drama and the suspense that make yugioh great.

I actually think the opponent's hand should be hidden by default but all I really need is a button so I can go back to hiding it. I really liked the old replays. Thanks.


what Jazz said, ideally we'd have a toggle on/off for hand reveals