I dont id as a male or female so please change that

[Excellion]

Btw the entitled lgbtq community is not discriminated against. The only rights they dont have in america is to marry whoever they want and get the same treatment legal wise as a married male and female. Change those laws and you have perfect equality.

As of 2015 same-sex marriage is now federally legal in all 50 states due to a ruling from the Supreme Court.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_ ... me%20Court.

If wikipedia isn't acceptable then you have

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... -marriages

Just wanted to let you know.

yes same sex marriage is legal....however that does not mean that it is the same as other marriages. a few states have loopholes and other things they use to not give you the same advantages along with some hospitals. Also it is on the federal level states while require to follow it sometimes do not do so. These things are on the border of legal not a well established federal law that has been upheld for decades. A same sex marriage is still not going to be treated the same as a heterosexual marriage.

but yea gay couples and lgbtq really are not discriminated against as they so claim. and when it does happen its usually 1 entity doing something to them and not an organized movement to get rid of them.

"Not 1 entity" what about the south baptist church? or most christian orginizations in general?

[Excellion]

https://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/pu ... s%20minors.
LGBTQ and non-binary people are more likely to be sexually assualted or assaulted in general in america.

[Excellion]

and what about the "gay blood ban" people cannot donate blood, even in a shortage, because theyre gay?

[Excellion]

the entire point of pride month was based on discrimination, the first pride was a riot caused when police officers entered a gay club and arrested people for being gay.

[greg503]

You don't need another option in the menu, use the profile notes and tell people if it comes up. As for the IRL problems, this isn't going to help solve those

[Excellion]

You don't need another option in the menu, use the profile notes and tell people if it comes up. As for the IRL problems, this isn't going to help solve those

then why have gender options at all if it isnt going to represent everyone? Just remove the gender selection if its not going to be inclusive, might as well remove male as well, theyre just "females with a birth defect" right?

[Genexwrecker]

From what I've gathered from this thread
Deserves rights:
Furries
Doesn't deserve rights:
Lgbtq+

Btw the entitled lgbtq community is not discriminated against. The only rights they dont have in america is to marry whoever they want and get the same treatment legal wise as a married male and female. Change those laws and you have perfect equality.

except, you know, all the hate crimes?

The amount of hate crimes committed is almost non existent. And they are prosecuted and penalized just like any other crime. Nothing needs to be changed there. The acts of a few racist criminals does not make a country or the rules in it discriminatory just the asshole that committed the crime. And now a days a good chunk of hate crimes that do get the spotlight have been faked for attention.

[Genexwrecker]

and what about the "gay blood ban" people cannot donate blood, even in a shortage, because theyre gay?

There is no gay blood ban there are restrictions in place because non heterosexual couples have absurd increases in STD risks. The donation regulation can be changed to where you have to provide negative test results before donating but it should still be restrictive. Last thing a person needs os to contract AIDs or other illness from a blood transfusion. You seem to be somebody brainwashed by politicians. This country has equal rights for every citizen. Religious cults are just that cults who do not accept 99% of the world they do not represent a country just terrible individuals.


In fact the lgbtq community has too many rights and an unfair advantage in the country right now due to illegal “inclusivity” requirements from companies trying to make sure they have at least x amounts of lgbtq and minorities hired over other races and orientations. Hiring or giving somebody special treatment because of their sexual orientation or race is illegal.

[Excellion]

Btw the entitled lgbtq community is not discriminated against. The only rights they dont have in america is to marry whoever they want and get the same treatment legal wise as a married male and female. Change those laws and you have perfect equality.

except, you know, all the hate crimes?

The amount of hate crimes committed is almost non existent. And they are prosecuted and penalized just like any other crime. Nothing needs to be changed there. The acts of a few racist criminals does not make a country or the rules in it discriminatory just the asshole that committed the crime. And now a days a good chunk of hate crimes that do get the spotlight have been faked for attention.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... s-release/
Really? Becauese the deparyment of justice along with several universities disagrees "lgbtq members are 4 times as likely to be victims of violent crimes"

[Excellion]

Because we are not woke like those websites and follow the laws of nature. Also people born with both or neither genitals are still able to meet the requirements of male or female.

I read an article saying you're considered female if you have 2 X chromosomes but male if you have at least 1 Y chromosomes, and if you happen to be one of those rare people born with an additional Y chromosome you're still male since you still have at least 1 Y chromosome. Is this correct?

yes you boil down to a male with a birth defect.

Then youre a female with a birth defect.

[Excellion]

and what about the "gay blood ban" people cannot donate blood, even in a shortage, because theyre gay?

There is no gay blood ban there are restrictions in place because non heterosexual couples have absurd increases in STD risks. The donation regulation can be changed to where you have to provide negative test results before donating but it should still be restrictive. Last thing a person needs os to contract AIDs or other illness from a blood transfusion. You seem to be somebody brainwashed by politicians. This country has equal rights for every citizen. Religious cults are just that cults who do not accept 99% of the world they do not represent a country just terrible individuals.


In fact the lgbtq community has too many rights and an unfair advantage in the country right now due to illegal “inclusivity” requirements from companies trying to make sure they have at least x amounts of lgbtq and minorities hired over other races and orientations. Hiring or giving somebody special treatment because of their sexual orientation or race is illegal.

Source? Becauee medical studies find that gay couples have a .003% higher chance of stis than straight couples, less that a tenth of a percent is enough to ban people who have been in a gay relationship to donate blood?

[Excellion]

and what about the "gay blood ban" people cannot donate blood, even in a shortage, because theyre gay?

There is no gay blood ban there are restrictions in place because non heterosexual couples have absurd increases in STD risks. The donation regulation can be changed to where you have to provide negative test results before donating but it should still be restrictive. Last thing a person needs os to contract AIDs or other illness from a blood transfusion. You seem to be somebody brainwashed by politicians. This country has equal rights for every citizen. Religious cults are just that cults who do not accept 99% of the world they do not represent a country just terrible individuals.


In fact the lgbtq community has too many rights and an unfair advantage in the country right now due to illegal “inclusivity” requirements from companies trying to make sure they have at least x amounts of lgbtq and minorities hired over other races and orientations. Hiring or giving somebody special treatment because of their sexual orientation or race is illegal.

Also Brain washed by politicians? Im giving you medical journals and quotes from the department of justice relating to lgbtq crime rates and descrimination in the us, "too many rights?" What are you talking about? Most of them still dont have a right to be married, a right garenteed to straight couples, also way to make diversity hires sound like a bad thing... theyre meant to combat discriminatory hiring.

Let me ask you this, why can a straight cis woman win in the olympics and be a model for empowerment but when a transwomen does it suddenly, there is an outroar?

Non binary identification has existed for literally thousands of years, its a big part in most every culture in the world, this idea that its some "new age fad" is ignoring history and culture.

[greg503]

except, you know, all the hate crimes?

The amount of hate crimes committed is almost non existent. And they are prosecuted and penalized just like any other crime. Nothing needs to be changed there. The acts of a few racist criminals does not make a country or the rules in it discriminatory just the asshole that committed the crime. And now a days a good chunk of hate crimes that do get the spotlight have been faked for attention.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... s-release/
Really? Becauese the deparyment of justice along with several universities disagrees "lgbtq members are 4 times as likely to be victims of violent crimes"

That's a people problem, not something that will just fix itself if every website with a profile gave you the opportunity to define yourself in detail through drop-down menus, because again, you can just put it in your self-written profile note

[Excellion]

The amount of hate crimes committed is almost non existent. And they are prosecuted and penalized just like any other crime. Nothing needs to be changed there. The acts of a few racist criminals does not make a country or the rules in it discriminatory just the asshole that committed the crime. And now a days a good chunk of hate crimes that do get the spotlight have been faked for attention.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... s-release/
Really? Becauese the deparyment of justice along with several universities disagrees "lgbtq members are 4 times as likely to be victims of violent crimes"

That's a people problem, not something that will just fix itself if every website with a profile gave you the opportunity to define yourself in detail through drop-down menus, because again, you can just put it in your self-written profile note

So your answer is "we cant fix the issue, so well propetuate the issue" stopping 1 case of discrimination wont stop all cases of discriminiation, but if it was discrimination against you, youd want it to stop, right? No one is claiming this will fix all issues for the lgbtq but it wont add to the issue that is present IN YUGIOH. There is a ton of discrimination against openly gay yugioh players in the community, even though there is a sizable lgbtq+ yugioh community. Im not asking for a list of 88 genders in a drop down list, remove the gender selector entirely, let people put their gender in their profile description if its important to them.

[Christen57]

except, you know, all the hate crimes?

The amount of hate crimes committed is almost non existent. And they are prosecuted and penalized just like any other crime. Nothing needs to be changed there. The acts of a few racist criminals does not make a country or the rules in it discriminatory just the asshole that committed the crime. And now a days a good chunk of hate crimes that do get the spotlight have been faked for attention.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... s-release/
Really? Becauese the deparyment of justice along with several universities disagrees "lgbtq members are 4 times as likely to be victims of violent crimes"

How does a criminal tell if you're LGBTQ in order to target you for a violent crime? Does it have something to do with how you look? Does it have something to do with how you talk?

Then youre a female with a birth defect.

Either way, you're still either male or female.

What are you talking about? Most of them still dont have a right to be married, a right garenteed to straight couples, also way to make diversity hires sound like a bad thing... theyre meant to combat discriminatory hiring.

Did the supreme court not declare same-sex marriage legal in 2015?

Let me ask you this, why can a straight cis woman win in the olympics and be a model for empowerment but when a transwomen does it suddenly, there is an outroar?

Because it leads to cheating, where males choose to identify as female and thus get to compete in these events meant for females only.

Non binary identification has existed for literally thousands of years, its a big part in most every culture in the world, this idea that its some "new age fad" is ignoring history and culture.

Which chromosome combination must one have to be non-binary? If your chromosomes are XX, you're female. If they're XY, you're male. If they're XYY, you're still either male or female.

There is a ton of discrimination against openly gay yugioh players in the community, even though there is a sizable lgbtq+ yugioh community.

Where on this forum has this discrimination been happening?

Also, I thought we were talking about genders. "Gay" is not a gender. Gay is a feeling of sexual attraction toward the same sex.

[Excellion]

The amount of hate crimes committed is almost non existent. And they are prosecuted and penalized just like any other crime. Nothing needs to be changed there. The acts of a few racist criminals does not make a country or the rules in it discriminatory just the asshole that committed the crime. And now a days a good chunk of hate crimes that do get the spotlight have been faked for attention.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... s-release/
Really? Becauese the deparyment of justice along with several universities disagrees "lgbtq members are 4 times as likely to be victims of violent crimes"

How does a criminal tell if you're LGBTQ in order to target you for a violent crime? Does it have something to do with how you look? Does it have something to do with how you talk?

Most reported cases come from non binary or trans people using the restroom they identify with and being harrassed and/or assaulted, sometimes even sexually assaulted by other people in the restroom.

Then youre a female with a birth defect.

Either way, you're still either male or female.

no medically all babies are female, the y chromosome is therefore a birth defect, if we arent counting "yy" or "xxy" as biological genders. Everyone is either cis female or a female with a brith defect/Transmale.

What are you talking about? Most of them still dont have a right to be married, a right garenteed to straight couples, also way to make diversity hires sound like a bad thing... theyre meant to combat discriminatory hiring.

Did the supreme court not declare same-sex marriage legal in 2015?

They did, doesnt mean its followed in states like texas if youre trying to get a same sex marriage youre out of luck.

Let me ask you this, why can a straight cis woman win in the olympics and be a model for empowerment but when a transwomen does it suddenly, there is an outroar?

Because it leads to cheating, where males choose to identify as female and thus get to compete in these events meant for females only.

Except in the example they screen for hormone and drug use, in this example the athletes testosterone was the same as a cis woman and their other hormones were the same as a cis women as well, they had no advantage.

Non binary identification has existed for literally thousands of years, its a big part in most every culture in the world, this idea that its some "new age fad" is ignoring history and culture.

Which chromosome combination must one have to be non-binary? If your chromosomes are XX, you're female. If they're XY, you're male. If they're XYY, you're still either male or female.

More ways to check gender than just chromosomes, if you ever read a biological study on the subject.

There is a ton of discrimination against openly gay yugioh players in the community, even though there is a sizable lgbtq+ yugioh community.

Where on this forum has this discrimination been happening?

In this thread... ">furries: have rights LGBTQ:No rights" how would you feel if you had to identify as "they" on your account, or as an indentification you werent? Is that not discriminatory, not being allowed to have yourself properly represented in the community for no reason other than someone "doesnt believe you should"

Also, I thought we were talking about genders. "Gay" is not a gender. Gay is a feeling of sexual attraction toward the same sex.

Yes sex and gender overlap, suprisingly, and i was talking about LGBTQ rights with covers both.

[Excellion]

You guys are really desperate to propetuate homonormality otherwise why would this even be an issue? Just add an "X" option for the gender selector, thats what most states do. Or remove the gender selector all together

[Christen57]

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... s-release/
Really? Becauese the deparyment of justice along with several universities disagrees "lgbtq members are 4 times as likely to be victims of violent crimes"

How does a criminal tell if you're LGBTQ in order to target you for a violent crime? Does it have something to do with how you look? Does it have something to do with how you talk?

Most reported cases come from non binary or trans people using the restroom they identify with and being harrassed and/or assaulted, sometimes even sexually assaulted by other people in the restroom.

You should be using the bathroom that matches your biological gender, not whichever bathroom you "choose to identify with".

no medically all babies are female, the y chromosome is therefore a birth defect, if we arent counting "yy" or "xxy" as biological genders.

Someone can be born with YY and XXY chromosomes?

Everyone is either cis female or a female with a brith defect/Transmale.

If you want to call us males "females with birth defects" or "transmales" you're free to do so, but unless you have evidence to back this claim up, genders will remain as "male" and "female" in society.

They did, doesnt mean its followed in states like texas if youre trying to get a same sex marriage youre out of luck.

Why has the federal government not intervened and enforced this law?

Except in the example they screen for hormone and drug use, in this example the athletes testosterone was the same as a cis woman and their other hormones were the same as a cis women as well, they had no advantage.

1 anecdote of 1 trans competitor turning out to have the same hormone levels as 1 non-trans competitor doesn't automatically disprove that biological factors still, for the most part, give males certain edges over females in sports. Plus, it's not just hormones and drug use you take into account. https://quillette.com/2021/12/11/male-and-female-athletic-performance/

Broadly, when compared with females, males are taller and have longer bones with narrower hips and wider shoulders; have lower body fat and higher muscle mass differentially distributed across sites, with more resistant connective tissue; have larger hearts and lungs, and higher levels of haemoglobin, the protein that carries oxygen within the blood.
The different physical attributes of males and females have functional consequences for sports-relevant outputs. For example, superior muscle mass, particularly in the upper body, leads to greater male strength when compared with female capacity. Greater muscular strength coupled with longer skeletal levers enable males to apply superior force in activities like jumping, throwing, and punching. Males have greater cardiovascular capacity, with higher capacity oxygenation and transport systems.
On average, males can move faster, jump further, throw longer, and lift heavier objects than females, and this creates large performance gaps between males and females in almost all sports.

More ways to check gender than just chromosomes

Like what, and how are those ways better and more reliable than checking chromosomes?

There is a ton of discrimination against openly gay yugioh players in the community, even though there is a sizable lgbtq+ yugioh community.

Where on this forum has this discrimination been happening?

In this thread... ">furries: have rights LGBTQ:No rights"

Lil Oldman wasn't asserting that himself. He was just claiming that's what he was allegedly learning from this thread. There's no rule anywhere on duelingbook saying anything about "furries," "LGBTQ," or any specific gender having more or less rights than the other(s).

how would you feel if you had to identify as "they" on your account, or as an indentification you werent?

What's "had to" supposed to mean? Nobody's forcing you to identify as a they. You're expected to identify as either male or female (with or without this "birth defect" thing you speak of).

Just add an "X" option for the gender selector

So "X" is also a gender now?

[Excellion]

Its recognized in states like arizona to denote a non binary person, then the person can add their perfered gender.

[Christen57]

Its recognized in states like arizona to denote a non binary person, then the person can add their perfered gender.

Okay, and that's Arizona's choice to pander to entitled people who wanna sexually identify as attack helicopters and whatnot, not duelingbook's choice.