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Cromat wrote:Question 16:

[1] Opponent Flip Summoned of "Krawler Axon" and activated its effect by targeting my "Prohibition".
[2] I responded with "Effect Veiler".
[3] Opponent activated their "Dark Factory of More Production" by sending of "Krawler Axon" to the GY.
[4] I activated my "Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring" for to prevent the opponent from drawing 1 card.

● Opponent says "Prohibition" is still gonna be destroyed because "Krawler Axon" is no longer on the field as face-up, therefore "Effect Veiler" cannot negate it.


Is the opponent telling the truth, or was he/she attempted to cheating?

Lil Oldman wrote:Follow up question: Does this situation also apply if Axon is placed face-down by World Legacy Pawns / Book of Moon?

Cromat wrote:Question #17:

[1] During my turn: I activated "Harpie's Feather Duster" to destroy their "Salamangreat Sanctuary" while they have a "Salamangreat Balelynx" in their GY and I have a face-up "Mystic Mine" on my Field Zone.

[2] Opponent banished of "Salamangreat Balelynx" from their GY for protect their Field Spell.

● I checked and see this; the following part of the effect of the card that was banished by the opponent was the 'Unclassified' Effect ("If a "Salamangreat" card(s) you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you can banish this card from your GY instead.").



Banishing of "Salamangreat Balelynx" was illegal here or Unclassified monster effects can be used even under of "Mystic Mine"? (Do not forget to review the recording to see what happened during the Duel. Replay Link: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37713955)

Cromat wrote:Question #17:

[1] During my turn: I activated "Harpie's Feather Duster" to destroy their "Salamangreat Sanctuary" while they have a "Salamangreat Balelynx" in their GY and I have a face-up "Mystic Mine" on my Field Zone.

[2] Opponent banished of "Salamangreat Balelynx" from their GY for protect their Field Spell.

● I checked and see this; the following part of the effect of the card that was banished by the opponent was the 'Unclassified' Effect ("If a "Salamangreat" card(s) you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you can banish this card from your GY instead.").



Banishing of "Salamangreat Balelynx" was illegal here or Unclassified monster effects can be used even under of "Mystic Mine"? (Do not forget to review the recording to see what happened during the Duel. Replay Link: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37713955)

Cromat wrote:Question #17:

[1] During my turn: I activated "Harpie's Feather Duster" to destroy their "Salamangreat Sanctuary" while they have a "Salamangreat Balelynx" in their GY and I have a face-up "Mystic Mine" on my Field Zone.

[2] Opponent banished of "Salamangreat Balelynx" from their GY for protect their Field Spell.

● I checked and see this; the following part of the effect of the card that was banished by the opponent was the 'Unclassified' Effect ("If a "Salamangreat" card(s) you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you can banish this card from your GY instead.").



Banishing of "Salamangreat Balelynx" was illegal here or Unclassified monster effects can be used even under of "Mystic Mine"? (Do not forget to review the recording to see what happened during the Duel. Replay Link: https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37713955)

Cromat wrote:Question #18:

[1] I activated of "Prohibiton" by declaring name of "Eldlich the Golden Lord".
[2] Opponent activated of "Eldlixir of Scarlet Sanguine" as Chain Link 2.
[3] After 3 seconds activated of "Conquistador of the Golden Land" as Chain Link 3.

When they realized that they couldn't destroy of "Prohibiton" with "Conquistador of the Golden Land", they wanted to change of their Chain Link order [as Chain Link 2 is 'Conquistador' and 3 is 'Sanguine']

(https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37743324)


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DarwisBellium92 wrote:

Cromat wrote:Question #18:

[1] I activated of "Prohibiton" by declaring name of "Eldlich the Golden Lord".
[2] Opponent activated of "Eldlixir of Scarlet Sanguine" as Chain Link 2.
[3] After 3 seconds activated of "Conquistador of the Golden Land" as Chain Link 3.

When they realized that they couldn't destroy of "Prohibiton" with "Conquistador of the Golden Land", they wanted to change of their Chain Link order [as Chain Link 2 is 'Conquistador' and 3 is 'Sanguine']

(https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37743324)


Share your thoughts on the subject. (For example; What would happened if the Judge has arrived?)

Question: On which turn did you activate Duality?
With Prohibiton on the field, your opponent cannot summon Eldlich

Cromat wrote:

DarwisBellium92 wrote:

Cromat wrote:Question #18:

[1] I activated of "Prohibiton" by declaring name of "Eldlich the Golden Lord".
[2] Opponent activated of "Eldlixir of Scarlet Sanguine" as Chain Link 2.
[3] After 3 seconds activated of "Conquistador of the Golden Land" as Chain Link 3.

When they realized that they couldn't destroy of "Prohibiton" with "Conquistador of the Golden Land", they wanted to change of their Chain Link order [as Chain Link 2 is 'Conquistador' and 3 is 'Sanguine']

(https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37743324)


Share your thoughts on the subject. (For example; What would happened if the Judge has arrived?)

Question: On which turn did you activate Duality?
With Prohibiton on the field, your opponent cannot summon Eldlich

My opponent activated their "Pot of Duality" during their Main Phase, I responded it with "Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell". They probably wanted to do something before "Prohibiton" resolves. Same like Chain Link 1 is activated "Heat Wave" and Chain Link 2 as activated "Eldlixir of Scarlet Sanguine", thus they can Special Summon of "Eldlich the Golden Lord" before "Heat Wave" resolves.

Cromat wrote:I know how to use of "Heat Wave", I just gave a similar example parallel about Question 18.

Anyway, according the Question 18's scenario, what should be done? Were you allow to opponent to change their Chain Link order for his/her favor and let the take advantage of the opponent or did I do the correct thing by calling Judge(s). I don't know, maybe when Judge(s) arrives, they'll allow to my opponent's that act. But I don't think so.

greg503 wrote:

Cromat wrote:I know how to use of "Heat Wave", I just gave a similar example parallel about Question 18.

Anyway, according the Question 18's scenario, what should be done? Were you allow to opponent to change their Chain Link order for his/her favor and let the take advantage of the opponent or did I do the correct thing by calling Judge(s). I don't know, maybe when Judge(s) arrives, they'll allow to my opponent's that act. But I don't think so.

You both could have been sharking in this scenario

Cromat wrote:

greg503 wrote:

Cromat wrote:I know how to use of "Heat Wave", I just gave a similar example parallel about Question 18.

Anyway, according the Question 18's scenario, what should be done? Were you allow to opponent to change their Chain Link order for his/her favor and let the take advantage of the opponent or did I do the correct thing by calling Judge(s). I don't know, maybe when Judge(s) arrives, they'll allow to my opponent's that act. But I don't think so.

You both could have been sharking in this scenario

Did you view the duel record which is placed to Question 18?

greg503 wrote:

Cromat wrote:

greg503 wrote:You both could have been sharking in this scenario

Did you view the duel record which is placed to Question 18?

I'm just saying that the situation is complicated enough to warrant judge calls

Cromat wrote:Question #18:

[1] I activated of "Prohibiton" by declaring name of "Eldlich the Golden Lord".
[2] Opponent activated of "Eldlixir of Scarlet Sanguine" as Chain Link 2.
[3] After 3 seconds activated of "Conquistador of the Golden Land" as Chain Link 3.

When they realized that they couldn't destroy of "Prohibiton" with "Conquistador of the Golden Land", they wanted to change of their Chain Link order [as Chain Link 2 is 'Conquistador' and 3 is 'Sanguine']

(https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-37743324)


Share your thoughts on the subject. (For example; What would happened if the Judge has arrived?)

Christen57 wrote:

greg503 wrote:

Cromat wrote:
Did you view the duel record which is placed to Question 18?

I'm just saying that the situation is complicated enough to warrant judge calls

How could they both have been sharking? The situation was that Cromat's opponent activated something as chain link 2 then something else as chain link 3, then decided they wanted to "rewind" and instead activate the chain link 2 effect as chain link 3 and vice versa.

Either Cromat alone was trying to shark by not letting his opponent rewind, or that opponent was trying to cheat by taking back a misplay.