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Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:08 pm
by Cromat
Question #22:
Opponent attacked with their "Jizukiru, the Star Destroying Kaiju" to my "Gameciel, the Sea Turtle Kaiju" which was in Attack Position. I decreased my LP by 1100. But opponent activated their "Psychic Fervor" by saying "Damage Step". I negated that Spell by using "Dark Bribe". After that, the opponent activated their "Limiter Removal" by saying "new chain".

Opponent can do that? (Before I take damage; I had 3500 LP, so I lost of Duel?)

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:24 pm
by Renji Asuka
Yes they can. The steps or phases don't move forward just because you negated a card.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:34 pm
by greg503
Renji Asuka wrote:Yes they can. The steps or phases don't move forward just because you negated a card.

The only exception is attack declaration

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 1:44 pm
by Renji Asuka
greg503 wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:Yes they can. The steps or phases don't move forward just because you negated a card.

The only exception is attack declaration

That moment when you negate mirror force and your opponent activates another, despite them activating on attack declaration in a new chain.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 8:42 pm
by Wek
greg503 wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:Yes they can. The steps or phases don't move forward just because you negated a card.

The only exception is attack declaration


Attack Declaration isn't a Phase/Step. Declaring an attack is just an action you take that doesn't start a chain, like summoning a monster or changing battle position.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 1:54 pm
by Cromat
Question #23:
During my opponent's Main Phase 1: They activated "Dark Magical Circle" while they control 1 "Magician's Rod".
I activated "Dogmatika Punishment" by targeting their "Magician's Rod" and sent of my GY the "Elder Entity N'tss".

Does my Trap Card destroy my opponent's monster and "Elder Entity N'tss" destroy their Spell Card, thus they cannot applying that mentioned effect ("When this card is activated: Look at the top 3 cards of your Deck, then you can reveal 1 of them that is "Dark Magician" or a Spell/Trap that mentions "Dark Magician", and add it to your hand, also place the remaining cards on top of your Deck in any order.") of "Dark Magical Circle" correct?

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 2:01 pm
by Lil Oldman
Cromat wrote:Question #23:
During my opponent's Main Phase 1: They activated "Dark Magical Circle" while they control 1 "Magician's Rod".
I activated "Dogmatika Punishment" by targeting their "Magician's Rod" and sent of my GY the "Elder Entity N'tss".

Does my Trap Card destroy my opponent's monster and "Elder Entity N'tss" destroy their Spell Card, thus they cannot applying that mentioned effect ("When this card is activated: Look at the top 3 cards of your Deck, then you can reveal 1 of them that is "Dark Magician" or a Spell/Trap that mentions "Dark Magician", and add it to your hand, also place the remaining cards on top of your Deck in any order.") of "Dark Magical Circle" correct?

So Circle activates and you respond with Punishment.
If I am not mistaken, the chain starts to resolve, punishment sending ntss and destroying rod, then Circle resolves and allows them to look at the top 3 cards of their deck, then, in a new chain, you can activate Ntss.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 3:09 pm
by Fredblade
Cromat wrote:Question #23:
During my opponent's Main Phase 1: They activated "Dark Magical Circle" while they control 1 "Magician's Rod".
I activated "Dogmatika Punishment" by targeting their "Magician's Rod" and sent of my GY the "Elder Entity N'tss".

Does my Trap Card destroy my opponent's monster and "Elder Entity N'tss" destroy their Spell Card, thus they cannot applying that mentioned effect ("When this card is activated: Look at the top 3 cards of your Deck, then you can reveal 1 of them that is "Dark Magician" or a Spell/Trap that mentions "Dark Magician", and add it to your hand, also place the remaining cards on top of your Deck in any order.") of "Dark Magical Circle" correct?


N'tss is activated in a new chain after the one where Dark Magical Circle and Dogmatika Punishment were activated, so it doesn't interrupt Dark Magical Circle.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 12:44 am
by Cromat
Question #24:
While opponent has no card in their Extra Deck: They activated as a Spell Card of "Anchamoufrite" and destroyed it on their own, and drew 1 card. A few turn later, they activated another "Anchamoufrite" as a Spell Card by saying "It says except "Anchamoufrite", so now; I can draw 1 card by destroying it.".

After the above is done, I said "If so, you couldn't destroy the 1st "Anchamoufrite" and draw 1 card because there was no "Anchamoufrite" in your Extra Deck when you activate the 1st "Anchamoufrite" from hand as Spell."

At Duel, opponent destroyed their 2nd "Anchamoufrite" by saying what in paragraph 1, and then they drew 1 card. What do you think; does opponent just cheated, or do they think they found a bug in KONAMI's kid's game that they can abuse, or all opponent's did was legal?

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 1:03 am
by Lil Oldman
Cromat wrote:Question #24:
While opponent has no card in their Extra Deck: They activated as a Spell Card of "Anchamoufrite" and destroyed it on their own, and drew 1 card. A few turn later, they activated another "Anchamoufrite" as a Spell Card by saying "It says except "Anchamoufrite", so now; I can draw 1 card by destroying it.".

After the above is done, I said "If so, you couldn't destroy the 1st "Anchamoufrite" and draw 1 card because there was no "Anchamoufrite" in your Extra Deck when you activate the 1st "Anchamoufrite" from hand as Spell."

At Duel, opponent destroyed their 2nd "Anchamoufrite" by saying what in paragraph 1, and then they drew 1 card. What do you think; does opponent just cheated, or do they think they found a bug in KONAMI's kid's game that they can abuse, or all opponent's did was legal?

All legal. Anchamoufrite says that as long as you don't have cards in the Extra Deck, with an exception being a copy of it, you can activate the effect, it doesn't say that you require a a copy of it on the Extra Deck.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Anchamoufrite
https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb ... _locale=ja

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 7:32 am
by Wek
Lil Oldman wrote:
Cromat wrote:Question #24:
While opponent has no card in their Extra Deck: They activated as a Spell Card of "Anchamoufrite" and destroyed it on their own, and drew 1 card. A few turn later, they activated another "Anchamoufrite" as a Spell Card by saying "It says except "Anchamoufrite", so now; I can draw 1 card by destroying it.".

After the above is done, I said "If so, you couldn't destroy the 1st "Anchamoufrite" and draw 1 card because there was no "Anchamoufrite" in your Extra Deck when you activate the 1st "Anchamoufrite" from hand as Spell."

At Duel, opponent destroyed their 2nd "Anchamoufrite" by saying what in paragraph 1, and then they drew 1 card. What do you think; does opponent just cheated, or do they think they found a bug in KONAMI's kid's game that they can abuse, or all opponent's did was legal?

All legal. Anchamoufrite says that as long as you don't have cards in the Extra Deck, with an exception being a copy of it, you can activate the effect, it doesn't say that you require a a copy of it on the Extra Deck.
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Anchamoufrite
https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb ... _locale=ja


https://db.ygorganization.com/card#15987 A handy reference site for these purposes. Automatically links to the databases available to the cards for citation purposes in addition to carrying translations for many of them. Lets you utilize information from Konami and not have to go to places like Yugipedia.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 7:49 pm
by Cromat
Question #25:

If I activate of "Prohibition" by declaring name of "Dodododwarf Gogogoglove", when opponent activated of "Onomatopaira", they cannot send of "Dodododwarf Gogogoglove" from their hand to their GY; correct?

[ Similar example question: If "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" declared by activation of "Prohibition", me and
my opponent cannot discard of "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" when I and/or they activated "Trade-In"; right?
]

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 8:28 pm
by greg503
Cromat wrote:Question #25:

If I activate of "Prohibition" by declaring name of "Dodododwarf Gogogoglove", when opponent activated of "Onomatopaira", they cannot send of "Dodododwarf Gogogoglove" from their hand to their GY; correct?

[ Similar example question: If "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" declared by activation of "Prohibition", me and
my opponent cannot discard of "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" when I and/or they activated "Trade-In"; right?
]

They are not allowed to place it on the field, have their battle position changed, activate their effects, or be used as material for another monster, unless they are already face-up on the field. They can still be used to pay costs.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 11:53 pm
by Cromat
Question #26:
What would happen; if I take control of 1 monster my opponent's by activating "Brain Control", but when entered the End Phase opponent has no place to put that monster back on their Monster Zone because there are 5 "Ojama Token" right now these were Summoned by my Traps. What would happen that monster?

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:44 am
by DarwisBellium92
Cromat wrote:Question #26:
What would happen; if I take control of 1 monster my opponent's by activating "Brain Control", but when entered the End Phase opponent has no place to put that monster back on their Monster Zone because there are 5 "Ojama Token" right now these were Summoned by my Traps. What would happen that monster?

No free monster zone in the your opponent field's, that monster is destroyed.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:47 am
by Wek
Cromat wrote:Question #26:
What would happen; if I take control of 1 monster my opponent's by activating "Brain Control", but when entered the End Phase opponent has no place to put that monster back on their Monster Zone because there are 5 "Ojama Token" right now these were Summoned by my Traps. What would happen that monster?


It should be sent to the GY, though if it's from the control change wearing off it's not considered destruction.

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:54 am
by greg503
Wek wrote:
Cromat wrote:Question #26:
What would happen; if I take control of 1 monster my opponent's by activating "Brain Control", but when entered the End Phase opponent has no place to put that monster back on their Monster Zone because there are 5 "Ojama Token" right now these were Summoned by my Traps. What would happen that monster?


It should be sent to the GY, though if it's from the control change wearing off it's not considered destruction.

Sent by game mechanics, same for if a Galaxy-Eyes attempts to return to the field with no open Main Monster Zones

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:39 am
by Fredblade
Cromat wrote:Question #26:
What would happen; if I take control of 1 monster my opponent's by activating "Brain Control", but when entered the End Phase opponent has no place to put that monster back on their Monster Zone because there are 5 "Ojama Token" right now these were Summoned by my Traps. What would happen that monster?


The monster that is attempting to return to the previous controller's field would be sent to the GY by game mechanics (in the case of Pendulum Monsters they're placed in the Extra Deck face-up, or if there are cards like Dimensional Fissure or Macro Cosmos, it would be banished instead). Game mechanics are not considered effects so they don't trigger any effect that says "by a card effect".

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:26 am
by Wek
greg503 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Cromat wrote:Question #26:
What would happen; if I take control of 1 monster my opponent's by activating "Brain Control", but when entered the End Phase opponent has no place to put that monster back on their Monster Zone because there are 5 "Ojama Token" right now these were Summoned by my Traps. What would happen that monster?


It should be sent to the GY, though if it's from the control change wearing off it's not considered destruction.

Sent by game mechanics, same for if a Galaxy-Eyes attempts to return to the field with no open Main Monster Zones


Yeah, I wouldn't expect it to be considered sent by card effect. Should be similar to the scenarios for when a control change effect resolves and tries to take a monster without available zones, with the exception instead of destruction it's just sent to GY, but still not by card effect. I find it a bit strange that control change wearing off without available zones isn't destruction while control change is, but the one ruling I see on control change wearing off indicated this one detail differed. https://db.ygorganization.com/qa#20771

Re: Game Related Question

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 6:26 am
by Fredblade
Wek wrote:
greg503 wrote:
Wek wrote:
It should be sent to the GY, though if it's from the control change wearing off it's not considered destruction.

Sent by game mechanics, same for if a Galaxy-Eyes attempts to return to the field with no open Main Monster Zones


Yeah, I wouldn't expect it to be considered sent by card effect. Should be similar to the scenarios for when a control change effect resolves and tries to take a monster without available zones, with the exception instead of destruction it's just sent to GY, but still not by card effect. I find it a bit strange that control change wearing off without available zones isn't destruction while control change is, but the one ruling I see on control change wearing off indicated this one detail differed. https://db.ygorganization.com/qa#20771


If a monster in the Extra Monster Zone changes control or leaves the field temporarily, it has to go to the Main Monster Zone, the Extra Monster Zone is only used when a monster is Special Summoned from the Extra Deck, you cannot place monsters in the Extra Monster Zone by any other method but summoning it from the Extra Deck. If there is no main monster zones available when the monster has to return to that field, it gets sent to the GY by game mechanics, what's the thing that is different in that ruling? Is the same thing.