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Dovah Reimagined: A new take to CM's card

Post #1 by KTeknis » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:25 am

I have to admit, CM have a good taste in artwork. But he's tend not to listen to critics and advices, and his cards are mostly Private. So here's some of my attempt to remake one of his cards: Dovah
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7376853
Any advice is nice, PSCT, Critic, anything! And better yet, It's public!
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Post #2 by CrystalMusic » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:25 am

KTeknis wrote:I have to admit, CM have a good taste in artwork. But he's tend not to listen to critics and advices, and his cards are mostly Private. So here's some of my attempt to remake one of his cards: Dovah
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7376853
Any advice is nice, PSCT, Critic, anything! And better yet, It's public!


https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830 lost to the originals
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Post #3 by Lil Oldman » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:30 am

Does it matter that a beast deck wins against a balanced deck that was made with heart?
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Post #4 by DuskWill » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:32 am

Aav - Dovah of Light seems to have an improper effect from how the rest of the monsters functions: She's LIGHT and, yet, her effect can be activated right away for being a non-WIND "Dovah" monster. Chihiro there was a nice addition as a Link monster, but you could try making some others that could actually use their effects based on the card that it points to.

As for PSCT, there are a couple of cases in many cards where monster should be plural.
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Post #5 by Renji Asuka » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:34 am

KTeknis wrote:I have to admit, CM have a good taste in artwork. But he's tend not to listen to critics and advices, and his cards are mostly Private. So here's some of my attempt to remake one of his cards: Dovah
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7376853
Any advice is nice, PSCT, Critic, anything! And better yet, It's public!

Okay so...I found an issue


If you control a DARK "Dovah" Monster: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If you control a non-WIND "Dovah" Monster: You can add 1 "Dovah" Monster from your Deck to your hand. You can only use each effect of "Aav - Dovah of Light" once per turn.

Yet you also have

f you control an EARTH "Dovah" Monster: You can Special Summon this card from your hand. If you control a non-WIND "Dovah" Monster: You can add 1 "Dovah" Spell/Trap card from your Deck to your hand. You can only use each effect of "Aiela - Dovah of Wind" once per turn.

Now the issue is the fact both Aav and Aiela require a non-wind "Dovah" monster, meanwhile the rest just require a different attribute than themselves and the light isn't like that.
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Post #6 by Rocket2 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:37 am

CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830 lost to the originals

Making custom archetype is never about beating the "original". Like that ever a thing.
As usual asshole, your cards are broken & dumb like your pea sized brain. Fusion Summon itself by paying 4000 LP. How desperate you are. :lol:

PS: I will go through your cards thoroughly later KTeknis.
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Post #7 by KTeknis » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:38 am

DuskWill wrote:Aav - Dovah of Light seems to have an improper effect from how the rest of the monsters functions: She's LIGHT and, yet, her effect can be activated right away for being a non-WIND "Dovah" monster. Chihiro there was a nice addition as a Link monster, but you could try making some others that could actually use their effects based on the card that it points to.

As for PSCT, there are a couple of cases in many cards where monster should be plural.

Ah, I forgot to change these dang! I was copy pasting Wind's eff when I was creating that and forgot to change it!
Hold on I'll change it!
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Post #8 by KTeknis » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:39 am

My goal is not to make it better in power, but to make it better in design.
I mean, compare it to this! https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7377469
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Post #9 by NiwatoriFTW » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:40 am

CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830 lost to the originals

Why such negativity, though?

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Post #10 by Lil Oldman » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:41 am

Rocket2 wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830 lost to the originals

Making custom archetype is never about beating the "original". Like that ever a thing.
As usual asshole, your cards are broken & dumb like your pea sized brain. Fusion Summon itself by paying 4000 LP. How desperate you are. :lol:

such a beast of a deck, stupid, broken, flawed, unalanced, brute and stupid.
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Post #11 by KTeknis » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:43 am

Oh, Btw, Dark Priscillia asked me to review his advice. He's one of the watcher in that duel. Can you help him? viewtopic.php?f=23&t=14212
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Post #12 by Rocket2 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:44 am

KTeknis wrote:My goal is not to make it better in power, but to make it better in design.
I mean, compare it to this! https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7377469

Said you got his "private" waifu decklist. I'd see enough in the replay. CM is just a terrible, horrible, and egoist custom card maker. That I can confidently believe we both agree on. :lol:

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Post #13 by CrystalMusic » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:48 am

also all ur showing is you like my custom cards reguardless of the image
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Post #14 by KTeknis » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:49 am

Btw, fixed Aav's eff being WIND instead of LIGHT. I'm waiting for Rocket2's compulsive card critic later before changing anything else
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Post #15 by KTeknis » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:51 am

CrystalMusic wrote:also all ur showing is you like my custom cards reguardless of the image

It's less like and more Interested. Some of your archetypes like Darksworns and Kodomo No Jikan had good mechanic, but bad executions.
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Post #16 by Darkraiclone » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:30 am

CrystalMusic wrote:
KTeknis wrote:I have to admit, CM have a good taste in artwork. But he's tend not to listen to critics and advices, and his cards are mostly Private. So here's some of my attempt to remake one of his cards: Dovah
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7376853
Any advice is nice, PSCT, Critic, anything! And better yet, It's public!


https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830 lost to the originals

And the originals are still trash. :lol:
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Post #17 by Lil Oldman » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:48 am

Oh If ThEy Are tArSh ThEn WhY cAnT yOu BeAt ThEm!
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Post #18 by Darkraiclone » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:52 am

Lil Oldman wrote:Oh If ThEy Are tArSh ThEn WhY cAnT yOu BeAt ThEm!

Because i'M nOt UsInG OnE SidEd rUlZ To PlAy a ChIlDrEnS CaRd GaMe.
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Post #19 by LightCaster » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:09 am

CrystalMusic wrote:
KTeknis wrote:I have to admit, CM have a good taste in artwork. But he's tend not to listen to critics and advices, and his cards are mostly Private. So here's some of my attempt to remake one of his cards: Dovah
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7376853
Any advice is nice, PSCT, Critic, anything! And better yet, It's public!


https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-25509830 lost to the originals


Because the originals lack this thing called. What was it again? Oh, yeah. BALANCE

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Post #20 by Rocket2 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:37 am

Nice, I like how you follow some of Konami theme on Attribute. Similar to Dragon Ruler, Cataclysmic, & Elemental Lords (although they are big bosses). Maybe you buff either AVV or Aiela to the unused ATK value 1700.

Psct: "Dovah" monster, and the "...; destroy/ return/ until" should be lower capitalization. While upper capitalization; "Spell/Trap Card", and Attribute.

Altar of the Draconic Girls: Buff it to 200 to both ATK/DEF. "Palace of the Elemental Lords" does something similar. Used HOPT for each effects at the last line, to balance & without using "Once per turn" 3 times. (The Draw 1 should be OPT too.) The 4th psct I'm not sure how to psct it, maybe you can ask Futuregamer. Or give it a new effect.

Ascension of Dovah, buff it & psct. "If only your opponent controls a monster: ... You cannot Special Summon monsters the turn you activate this card, except "Dovah" monsters." Believe it or not, you can actually remove the "Pay half your LP" if you SS only from the Deck alone & in Defense Position, as it a brick going 1st. Unless you want to buff it by saying "If you control no monsters:...", then you can said "discard 1 card" as cost for breakeven.

Dovah Proving Ground. psct: "Each time a "Dovah" monster(s) is Summoned.." Since it is not HOPT, is there a point in the Field getting "Fusion of Dovah" back? Maybe you can change this part either on Proving or Altar, since now it mean you got 3 cards (Chihiro) that get back the Fusion Spell. The 4 Counters nerf it to SS only just 2 locations. Or you could add in HOPT on both effects, or just 1.

Dragon Soul of Dovah. Need to do 1 more thing, because it is outclass by Proving, Ascension, and revival Spells (Monster Reborn).

Divine Safeguard of the Dovah, buff. "When your opponent activates a Spell/Trap Card, or monster effect, that targets or would destroy a "Dovah" card(s) you control while you control 3 or more "Dovah" monsters with different Attributes: Negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card." The reason for this change is the original difficult requirement & the payout is not enough even without HOPT.

Fusion of Dovah psct: "If you contorl 3 or more "Dovah" monsters with different Attributes, you can also banish up to 1 "Dovah" monster from your GY as Fusion Material."

The Fusion Monsters on the other hand did not follow the Attributes Boss Theme (Mostly). These I would said need some brainstorming while looking up on Konami Six Attributes Boss effects. But 1 thing I can said not to do is the OP protection on Corrin.

Chihiro. Best just said from the Deck only, because of Altar & Proving. Psct: "You can declare 1 Attribute; until the end of this turn, this card becomes that Attribute, also, it cannot cannot be Tributed, or used as material for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link Summon, except for "Dovah" monsters."


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