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i had someone say this card is broken

Post #1 by CrystalMusic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:13 pm

https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?
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Post #2 by greg503 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:37 pm

I'm pretty sure that you know that they were not referring to that card, replay/chat log or you're trolling.
What's the card that's really being called broken?
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Post #3 by LightCaster » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?


Maybe because you have a Super Poly effect on a contact fusion card?

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Post #4 by Lil Oldman » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:12 pm

"Aw shit, here we go again."
"Complacency? How rude. I live the stifling life of a high school student in our problematic modern society."
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Post #5 by greg503 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:32 pm

LightCaster wrote:Maybe because you have a Super Poly effect on a contact fusion card?

What do you mean Super Poly effect? If anything, it's just Poly without Poly, which is stupid, but the monster itself is just Armades. (WTF is a "resolves during the Damage Step")
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Post #6 by Renji Asuka » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:44 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?

Oh look, another Crystal Music card that violates "No contact Fusion" rule.
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Post #7 by CrystalMusic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:49 pm

Renji Asuka wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?

Oh look, another Crystal Music card that violates "No contact Fusion" rule.


seems you cant read a profile:
- you must fusion summon using the following fusion spell cards: Polymerization, The Eye of Timaeus, The Fang of Critias, The Claw of Hermos (Effects that allow it to be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand or field are allowed, however no Neo Spacian Fusions)
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Post #8 by CrystalMusic » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:50 pm

also:
Contact Fusion is a semi-official term which means to Special Summon a Fusion Monster with its own Summoning procedure that states "You do not use "Polymerization". - https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Contact_Fusion.

so my cards are not contact fusion as it does not say: You do not use "Polymerization"
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Post #9 by NiwatoriFTW » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:48 am

Just wondering... did that really happen? I mean, we're already lacking context to evaluate if that card is OP or not since all we were provided was an anecdotal incident and no replay.

Either something else was going on or this is some desperate appeal to emotion.

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Post #10 by greg503 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:51 am

This is 99.9% trolling
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Post #11 by Renji Asuka » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:52 am

CrystalMusic wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?

Oh look, another Crystal Music card that violates "No contact Fusion" rule.


seems you cant read a profile:
- you must fusion summon using the following fusion spell cards: Polymerization, The Eye of Timaeus, The Fang of Critias, The Claw of Hermos (Effects that allow it to be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand or field are allowed, however no Neo Spacian Fusions)

You been told multiple times that contact fusion is fusion summoning without any spell that can fusion summon. Get out of here with your bullshit, you fucking racist cunt.
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Post #12 by LightCaster » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:28 am

greg503 wrote:
LightCaster wrote:Maybe because you have a Super Poly effect on a contact fusion card?

What do you mean Super Poly effect? If anything, it's just Poly without Poly, which is stupid, but the monster itself is just Armades. (WTF is a "resolves during the Damage Step")


It's an uninterruptable fusion so i thought super poly.

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Post #13 by LightCaster » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:29 am

CrystalMusic wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?

Oh look, another Crystal Music card that violates "No contact Fusion" rule.


seems you cant read a profile:
- you must fusion summon using the following fusion spell cards: Polymerization, The Eye of Timaeus, The Fang of Critias, The Claw of Hermos (Effects that allow it to be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand or field are allowed, however no Neo Spacian Fusions)


Your very next rule is "No contact fusion."

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Post #14 by greg503 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:34 am

LightCaster wrote:
greg503 wrote:
LightCaster wrote:Maybe because you have a Super Poly effect on a contact fusion card?

What do you mean Super Poly effect? If anything, it's just Poly without Poly, which is stupid, but the monster itself is just Armades. (WTF is a "resolves during the Damage Step")


It's an uninterruptable fusion so i thought super poly.

I think of it more like a Link Summon from a hand, it's just a Summon from the ED (that may or may not be treated as a Fusion Summon), but it can still get Solemn'd, unlike Super Poly
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Post #15 by greg503 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:35 am

CM clearly hasn't read the original Neos Fusions, they're so bad.
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Post #16 by greg503 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:41 am

CrystalMusic wrote:seems you cant read a profile:
- you must fusion summon using the following fusion spell cards: Polymerization, The Eye of Timaeus, The Fang of Critias, The Claw of Hermos (Effects that allow it to be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand or field are allowed, however no Neo Spacian Fusions)

Sounds like someone doesn't want to use Poly themselves, why else would your Fusions allow you to just send the materials without a Fusion Spell?
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Post #17 by Lil Oldman » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:53 am

didnt he made an antifision card?
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Post #18 by Rocket2 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:36 am

greg503 wrote:Sounds like someone doesn't want to use Poly themselves, why else would your Fusions allow you to just send the materials without a Fusion Spell?

Suck being you CM. :D Undeniable evidence that you do not even want to use Polymerization yourself, but demand us to do it. So, you made cards & rules that bend Konami's rules to your liking.

According to Konami: "A player can Fusion Summon a Fusion Monster from the Extra Deck by activating a card or effect that performs a Fusion Summon." That Fusion Monster did none of this to Fusion Summon, as there is no card activation that perform Fusion Summon. Looking at all existing cards that can perform Fusion Summon, all of them have to be activated to perform it. Cards like "Muddy Mudragon" or "D/D Swirl Slime", or "Fusion Gate".
Also, this is why Contact Fusion is not a Fusion Summon. But a summoning requirement that properly Special Summon a Fusion Monster.

All bark, no bite. You had dug your own grave. Should had keep your mouth shut. :lol:

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Post #19 by Darkraiclone » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:50 am

CrystalMusic wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=77059

US Armed Forces - Stealth Infantry:
Level 6/EARTH/Fusion/Warrior/Effect, 2200 ATK, 1600 DEF.
1 US Armed Forces Sniper + 1 "US Armed Forces" Warrior-type Monster.
Must be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand and/or field to your GY.
If this card attacks: Your opponent cannot activate or resolve any cards or effects until the end of the damage step.

... how on earth could anyone find this broken?

Oh look, another Crystal Music card that violates "No contact Fusion" rule.


seems you cant read a profile:
- you must fusion summon using the following fusion spell cards: Polymerization, The Eye of Timaeus, The Fang of Critias, The Claw of Hermos (Effects that allow it to be fusion summoned by sending the required materials from your hand or field are allowed, however no Neo Spacian Fusions)

Then it should say, "Must be fusion summoned with the above materials and cannot be summoned by other ways." The way you have it written means that it can Fusion summon itself from the Extra Deck without using Polymerization, or did you even think of that?
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Post #20 by Rocket2 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:32 am

Darkraiclone wrote:Then it should say, "Must be fusion summoned with the above materials and cannot be summoned by other ways." The way you have it written means that it can Fusion summon itself from the Extra Deck without using Polymerization, or did you even think of that?

I'm sure that was his intention. Maybe that is where it is broken because using monsters in the hand for a Extra Deck summon without any card activation, or any on field card that allow the summon, are just dumb. His Fusion Summon cheat mechanic is more busted than Link Summon. As we both know, monsters in the hand are safer than the field & GY, also the user does not need resources to put them on the field or GY. All they need are search/draw effects to add/draw the materials to their hand, and spam their Extra Deck summon.

Even if those materials does not have any floating effect if sent to the GY that add another copy of their archetype monsters to the hand, it doesn't change the fact that the user can still Fusion Summon spam as the Fusion Monsters does not have "Hard Special Summon OPT restriction". Probably he feel Fusion Monsters should have the same treatment as Synchro, Xyz, & Link summon, but more busted by using monsters from the hand too.
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