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Re: got a card for all you anime fans this time

Post #21 by CrystalMusic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:37 pm

LightCaster wrote:
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james123 wrote:You said no Contact Fusion so you're breaking a Rule called "No Contact Fusion and Archetype Fusion cards!"


Contact fusion returns the cards to the deck. mine sends the cards to the GY. nice try!


Your rules say no contact fusions. You uphold your rules like they're the law. So nice try on doubling back on yourself.


proof u cant read and dont know what a "Contact Fusion" is.
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Post #22 by CrystalMusic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:38 pm

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LightCaster wrote:Your rules say no contact fusions. You uphold your rules like they're the law. So nice try on doubling back on yourself.

rules for thee not for me


same goes with you. your reply clearly shows you dont know what "Contact Fusion" is.
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Post #23 by CrystalMusic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:43 pm

Renji Asuka wrote:Who else would be surprised that Crystal Music makes OP cards, breaks their own rule and try to act as if it isn't contact fusion, despite it being contact fusion....


OMG. go read the neo spacians, they are a perfect example of what "Contact Fusion" is. they "Return" to the deck.
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Post #24 by greg503 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:11 pm

OK, but it is an easy win condition in any deck comprised mostly or entirely of monsters, especially given how many Poly searchers exist in the game
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Post #25 by CrystalMusic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:13 pm

greg503 wrote:OK, but it is an easy win condition in any deck comprised mostly or entirely of monsters, especially given how many Poly searchers exist in the game


its not a win condition, in no way does this card make you win in any form. it does not specifically say "You win" in its text.
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Post #26 by CrystalMusic » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:38 pm

the only victory/loss conditions i make when it comes to custom cards are ones that work in a similar fashion as:
- Final Countdown
- Venomnaga
- cards that require a specific set of monsters on the field.
- requires its destruction
- The Creator God of Light, Horakhty

I have very few alt win conditions. like 6 at the least.

here is one i made that works in a similar fashion as Final Countdown, requires 10 more turns than final countdown, but also added in the lore and logic of the game in which it is from - Age of Empires: https://www.duelingbook.com/card?id=235203

If you control an "Age of Empires - Villager" this cards activation and effects cannot be negated.

As long as you control a Warrior-type or Machine-type "Age of Empires" monster other than "Age of Empires - Villager" This card cannot be Targeted or Destroyed and is unaffected by all other cards, effects, costs and conditions.

During the start of each players turn: Place 1 counter on this card. Other cards and effects cannot add/remove counters to/from this card. If this card has 30 counters on it you win the duel. Other cards and effects cannot negate or prevent this victory condition.

Behind the logic and Lore of the card:
- In the game of Age of Empires, only villagers can build and repair buildings. Basically, activating a card in yugioh is similar to creating a building in age of empires, so having a villager on the field before activating the trap makes its activation and effects unable to be negated.
- Most players in the game have military units which can range from foot soldiers, to horseback, and even siege weapons. Siege weapons are machines used in the medieval days so i made them machine-type. In age of empires, 99%of the time youll have to eliminate the enemies military before you can even touch their wonder. Thus i included the protection effect as long as i control a warrior or machine type monster other than the villager, as villagers are not meant to be soldiers in the game, but rather meant for fishing, lumberjack, Stone mining, Gold Mining, building and repairing buildings, and repairing siege weapons.
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Post #27 by greg503 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:52 pm

By win condition, I mean that it gives you enough of an advantage to win easily. Such as Number S0 and 86 preventing your opponent from doing most things
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Post #28 by Debt » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:24 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:
same goes with you. your reply clearly shows you dont know what "Contact Fusion" is.


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Contact fusion isn't an official term used in the game but this konami post says that it's short hand for a special summon of a Fusion Monster that summons itself rather than using a card effect. Banishing materials like with XYZ-Dragon Cannon and Ritual Beasts is a contact fusion in Konami's eyes, Neos and Glad Beast returning material to deck is contact fusion, Elder Entities sending material to GY is contact fusion. The key phrase to contact fusion is (You do not use "Polymerization".) Your fusions are all contact fusion but you don't bother including that phrase.
CrystalMusic wrote:its not a win condition, in no way does this card make you win in any form. it does not specifically say "You win" in its text.

You don't understand what people mean by wincon.

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Post #29 by NiwatoriFTW » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:34 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:
LightCaster wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:
Contact fusion returns the cards to the deck. mine sends the cards to the GY. nice try!


Your rules say no contact fusions. You uphold your rules like they're the law. So nice try on doubling back on yourself.


proof u cant read and dont know what a "Contact Fusion" is.

CrystalMusic wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:Who else would be surprised that Crystal Music makes OP cards, breaks their own rule and try to act as if it isn't contact fusion, despite it being contact fusion....


OMG. go read the neo spacians, they are a perfect example of what "Contact Fusion" is. they "Return" to the deck.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Contact_Fusion
Contact Fusion (コンタクト融ゆう合ごう Kontakuto Yūgō) is a semi-official term which means to Special Summon a Fusion Monster with its own Summoning procedure that states "You do not use "Polymerization"."

General rules

    Contact Fusion is not a Fusion Summon, as it is a type of built-in Special Summon. Attempting to Special Summon via Contact Fusion opens the Summon negation window and does not start a Chain.
    All Fusion Materials involved in the Special Summon must be on the side of the field of the player conducting the Contact Fusion (unless specified otherwise), and cannot be replaced by Fusion Substitute Monsters.
    The Fusion Materials used are then removed from the field via either banishing them, returning them to the Deck, sending them to the Graveyard, or Tributing them.
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https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=1099
Contact Fusions

If your Fusion Monster says “You do not use ‘Polymerization’” then you can only Special Summon it from your Extra Deck by following the instructions written on the card.[...]

Here are some source materials for the unofficial term known as "Contact Fusion". In none of them describes requiring to return the materials to the deck; just Special Summoning a Fusion Monster from the Extra Deck by using a summoning method described in the card, instead of performing a Fusion Summon, is enough to be considered a Contact Fusion.

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Post #30 by Renji Asuka » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:13 pm

CrystalMusic wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:Who else would be surprised that Crystal Music makes OP cards, breaks their own rule and try to act as if it isn't contact fusion, despite it being contact fusion....


OMG. go read the neo spacians, they are a perfect example of what "Contact Fusion" is. they "Return" to the deck.

Contact Fusion is 2 or more monsters used for a fusion summon without using a fusion spell card or Masked Change and friends.
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Post #31 by greg503 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:11 pm

II think it is NOT a Contact Fusion, and that clause says that you can't use cards like Chain Material or Necro Fusion to summon it
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Post #32 by Debt » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:26 am

greg503 wrote:II think it is NOT a Contact Fusion, and that clause says that you can't use cards like Chain Material or Necro Fusion to summon it

Crystal's card doesn't use a fusion spell, he's just too lazy to put in the "you do not use polymerization" clause. You could argue it's not contact fusion because the material doesn't strictly have to be on the field. Or it's contact fusion with the added bonus of being able to use hand.


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