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Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:46 pm
by greg503
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Christen57 wrote:Futuregamer wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=76788-33311075
What a piece of garbage. And of course the admin enables him.
[16:39] Futuregamer: "maybe you should seriously consider killing yourself"[16:43] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "oh"[16:44] Futuregamer: "it will make your family happier"[16:45] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "so now"
[16:54] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "im gonna call judge for harrassment"[16:59] Futuregamer: "of course you are"
[17:02] Futuregamer: "you're a mystic mine player"[17:02] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "your words hurt my feelings"
[17:07] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: Called a judge for Cheating[17:19] itsmetristan: "Hi. What's the issue?"
[17:19] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "opponent told me to kill myself"
[17:28] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "so"[17:39] itsmetristan: "Futuregamer Care to explain?"
[17:45] Futuregamer: "He plays Mystic Mine?"
[17:51] Futuregamer: "obviously?"[18:05] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "didnt know certain cards allow for that"[18:09] itsmetristan: "And you think that that's enough reason to tell them to kill themself?"
[18:24] Futuregamer: "Honestly I'm confused about why you don't think so too."
[18:32] Futuregamer: "And I didn't order it, I just made the suggestion."
[18:41] Futuregamer: "In my honest opinion, it would make his family happier."[18:49] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "jesus "[18:52] itsmetristan: "I will be freezing your account for Severe Harassment"
[19:03] Futuregamer: "Sure, while you're at it, try growing some balls./"You've gotta stop breaking duelingbook's rules just because of a specific profile pic or a card your opponent played. I hate Mystic Mine too, and I'm sure that judge does as well, but you can't keep saying stuff that would clearly get you frozen and then get mad at the judge for applying the appropriate penalty for such behavior. A judge's job is to enforce the rules, not to grow "balls".
You hate Mystic Mine that much, quit and find another opponent. NO card an opponent plays is worth another freeze to your account. Not Mystic Mine. Not Ojama Green. Nothing. You can't keep thinking that you should be allowed to get away with breaking rules if your opponent plays a card you dislike.
It hurts me seeing you get frozen once again, but if you're really "confused" about why that judge didn't "think so too" it's because if judges allowed you get away with that, it would set a dangerous precedent where breaking any rule is now perfectly okay as long as the opponent had a profile pic you didn't like or played a card you didn't like. You start getting away with breaking rules just because your opponent played Mystic Mine or wore Ojama Green, you'll have others doing the same to you and also getting away with it because they disliked the Eldlich cards you played or your Megalith Bethor pic.
"You play X card? Well you're subhuman now and I'm gonna doxx you and your loved ones and send you child porn and make death threats to you and your family because you played X card in X duel and you deserve it for playing such a card, and if you get offended, try growing some balls!"
"You have X image as your profile pic? Well I'm just gonna maliciously stall for the next hour or so since you now DeSeRvE to have your time wasted, and the admins aren't gonna do a thing about it because you cLeArLy deserve it for having such a profile pic, and if you don't like it, well, you just need to try growing some balls!"
That is what duelingbook would turn into. That is the dangerous precedent the admins would be setting if they stopped punishing rule-breakers just because their opponents played disliked cards and had disliked profile pics. That is why the admins need to enforce rules fairly no matter who played what card or had what profile pic.
While your statement may hold truth something needs to be done before too many people end up using mystic mine Konami did not bother to ban it when they made the October TCG Banlist and OCG is pretty much dead. No Matter how you put it the issue remains.
Mystic Mine is not meta enough anymore, it is not the problem deck, just play Cosmic Cyclone/Eldlich/Floowandereeze Stormforth
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:01 pm
by Christen57
Futuregamer wrote:Personally I'm 100% for harassment, it's a matter of freedom of speech. If it gets annoying you can just ignore it or block the users, it's not something that actually impedes the game. In all my years in DB I have never once reported harassment to admins, and I receive it by the bucket daily. The only reason the admins punish it is to protect the feelings of oversensitive morons.
Freedom of speech isn't binary. It exists on a spectrum. You can have no freedom of speech, a little bit of freedom of speech, a lot of freedom of speech, or nearly infinite freedom of speech.
The admins don't punish severe harassment to "protect the feelings" of anyone. If that were the case, most of us including myself would've been banned from duelingbook by this point since we've all hurt someone else's feelings at some point. The admins punish severe harassment mainly because they rely on google ads to help keep the site running and the bills paid, and google ads has certain rules websites using it must follow if they want to be able to keep utilizing google ads.
When you visit duelingbook without any kind of ad blocker, you'll see some random ad, and when you click on it's little blue arrow, you'll see that it's a google ad.
The way these basically work is that duelingbook displays these google ads on it's site to advertise products/services, and in return, google gives duelingbook a share of money to help keep duelingbook running.
However, google has a minimum set of rules that need to be followed or else it will stop giving shares of money to websites that break those rules. https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/10502938
The first thing it says is that "When you monetize your content with Google ad code you are required to adhere to the following policies."
Then it says basically that websites accepting money through google ads can't have:Content advocating suicide, anorexia, or other self-harm; threatening someone with real-life harm or calling for the attack of another person; promoting, glorifying, or condoning violence against others; content made by or in support of terrorist groups or transnational drug trafficking organizations, or content that promotes terrorist acts, including recruitment, or that celebrates attacks by transnational drug trafficking or terrorist organizations.
This means duelingbook must have penalties in place for users who encourage suicide or commit other forms of severe harassment. Without such penalties, duelingbook will be stripped of it's main source of income — google ads — and then at that point, duelingbook will be much harder, if not impossible, to keep running.
You do not tell someone to "try growing some balls" when you're heavily dependent on them for your income.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:04 pm
by Christen57
KTeknis wrote:"Never meet your heroes" Now I understands why...
Understand what? Who's the hero here?
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Christen57 wrote:Futuregamer wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=76788-33311075
What a piece of garbage. And of course the admin enables him.
[16:39] Futuregamer: "maybe you should seriously consider killing yourself"[16:43] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "oh"[16:44] Futuregamer: "it will make your family happier"[16:45] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "so now"
[16:54] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "im gonna call judge for harrassment"[16:59] Futuregamer: "of course you are"
[17:02] Futuregamer: "you're a mystic mine player"[17:02] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "your words hurt my feelings"
[17:07] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: Called a judge for Cheating[17:19] itsmetristan: "Hi. What's the issue?"
[17:19] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "opponent told me to kill myself"
[17:28] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "so"[17:39] itsmetristan: "Futuregamer Care to explain?"
[17:45] Futuregamer: "He plays Mystic Mine?"
[17:51] Futuregamer: "obviously?"[18:05] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "didnt know certain cards allow for that"[18:09] itsmetristan: "And you think that that's enough reason to tell them to kill themself?"
[18:24] Futuregamer: "Honestly I'm confused about why you don't think so too."
[18:32] Futuregamer: "And I didn't order it, I just made the suggestion."
[18:41] Futuregamer: "In my honest opinion, it would make his family happier."[18:49] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "jesus "[18:52] itsmetristan: "I will be freezing your account for Severe Harassment"
[19:03] Futuregamer: "Sure, while you're at it, try growing some balls./"You've gotta stop breaking duelingbook's rules just because of a specific profile pic or a card your opponent played. I hate Mystic Mine too, and I'm sure that judge does as well, but you can't keep saying stuff that would clearly get you frozen and then get mad at the judge for applying the appropriate penalty for such behavior. A judge's job is to enforce the rules, not to grow "balls".
You hate Mystic Mine that much, quit and find another opponent. NO card an opponent plays is worth another freeze to your account. Not Mystic Mine. Not Ojama Green. Nothing. You can't keep thinking that you should be allowed to get away with breaking rules if your opponent plays a card you dislike.
It hurts me seeing you get frozen once again, but if you're really "confused" about why that judge didn't "think so too" it's because if judges allowed you get away with that, it would set a dangerous precedent where breaking any rule is now perfectly okay as long as the opponent had a profile pic you didn't like or played a card you didn't like. You start getting away with breaking rules just because your opponent played Mystic Mine or wore Ojama Green, you'll have others doing the same to you and also getting away with it because they disliked the Eldlich cards you played or your Megalith Bethor pic.
"You play X card? Well you're subhuman now and I'm gonna doxx you and your loved ones and send you child porn and make death threats to you and your family because you played X card in X duel and you deserve it for playing such a card, and if you get offended, try growing some balls!"
"You have X image as your profile pic? Well I'm just gonna maliciously stall for the next hour or so since you now DeSeRvE to have your time wasted, and the admins aren't gonna do a thing about it because you cLeArLy deserve it for having such a profile pic, and if you don't like it, well, you just need to try growing some balls!"
That is what duelingbook would turn into. That is the dangerous precedent the admins would be setting if they stopped punishing rule-breakers just because their opponents played disliked cards and had disliked profile pics. That is why the admins need to enforce rules fairly no matter who played what card or had what profile pic.
While your statement may hold truth something needs to be done before too many people end up using mystic mine Konami did not bother to ban it when they made the October TCG Banlist and OCG is pretty much dead. No Matter how you put it the issue remains.
How is the OCG dead when they banned Mystic Mine?
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:06 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
Christen57 wrote:KTeknis wrote:"Never meet your heroes" Now I understands why...
Understand what? Who's the hero here?
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Christen57 wrote:
[16:39] Futuregamer: "maybe you should seriously consider killing yourself"
[16:43] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "oh"
[16:44] Futuregamer: "it will make your family happier"
[16:45] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "so now"
[16:54] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "im gonna call judge for harrassment"
[16:59] Futuregamer: "of course you are"
[17:02] Futuregamer: "you're a mystic mine player"
[17:02] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "your words hurt my feelings"
[17:07] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: Called a judge for Cheating
[17:19] itsmetristan: "Hi. What's the issue?"
[17:19] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "opponent told me to kill myself"
[17:28] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "so"
[17:39] itsmetristan: "Futuregamer Care to explain?"
[17:45] Futuregamer: "He plays Mystic Mine?"
[17:51] Futuregamer: "obviously?"
[18:05] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "didnt know certain cards allow for that"
[18:09] itsmetristan: "And you think that that's enough reason to tell them to kill themself?"
[18:24] Futuregamer: "Honestly I'm confused about why you don't think so too."
[18:32] Futuregamer: "And I didn't order it, I just made the suggestion."
[18:41] Futuregamer: "In my honest opinion, it would make his family happier."
[18:49] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF: "jesus "
[18:52] itsmetristan: "I will be freezing your account for Severe Harassment"
[19:03] Futuregamer: "Sure, while you're at it, try growing some balls./"
You've gotta stop breaking duelingbook's rules just because of a specific profile pic or a card your opponent played. I hate Mystic Mine too, and I'm sure that judge does as well, but you can't keep saying stuff that would clearly get you frozen and then get mad at the judge for applying the appropriate penalty for such behavior. A judge's job is to enforce the rules, not to grow "balls".
You hate Mystic Mine that much, quit and find another opponent. NO card an opponent plays is worth another freeze to your account. Not Mystic Mine. Not Ojama Green. Nothing. You can't keep thinking that you should be allowed to get away with breaking rules if your opponent plays a card you dislike.
It hurts me seeing you get frozen once again, but if you're really "confused" about why that judge didn't "think so too" it's because if judges allowed you get away with that, it would set a dangerous precedent where breaking any rule is now perfectly okay as long as the opponent had a profile pic you didn't like or played a card you didn't like. You start getting away with breaking rules just because your opponent played Mystic Mine or wore Ojama Green, you'll have others doing the same to you and also getting away with it because they disliked the Eldlich cards you played or your Megalith Bethor pic.
"You play X card? Well you're subhuman now and I'm gonna doxx you and your loved ones and send you child porn and make death threats to you and your family because you played X card in X duel and you deserve it for playing such a card, and if you get offended, try growing some balls!"
"You have X image as your profile pic? Well I'm just gonna maliciously stall for the next hour or so since you now DeSeRvE to have your time wasted, and the admins aren't gonna do a thing about it because you cLeArLy deserve it for having such a profile pic, and if you don't like it, well, you just need to try growing some balls!"
That is what duelingbook would turn into. That is the dangerous precedent the admins would be setting if they stopped punishing rule-breakers just because their opponents played disliked cards and had disliked profile pics. That is why the admins need to enforce rules fairly no matter who played what card or had what profile pic.
While your statement may hold truth something needs to be done before too many people end up using mystic mine Konami did not bother to ban it when they made the October TCG Banlist and OCG is pretty much dead. No Matter how you put it the issue remains.
How is the OCG dead when they banned Mystic Mine?
because no one in rated does ocg i tried
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:31 pm
by Futuregamer
Christen57 wrote:You do not tell someone to "try growing some balls" when you're heavily dependent on them for your income.[/size]
Heh... I never realised DB uses ads because I use an ad-blocker, I always thought they had just contacted cardmarket or the troll&toad directly, like they had with Dueling Network.
Alright, if that's the case I admit I was being unfair to the judge (I do still support the MM player killing themselves though, just like all MM players should).
...Honestly if using DB supports Google I might stop using it entirely. I have switched to DuckduckGo for about two years for that same reason.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:52 pm
by greg503
Christen57 wrote:How is the OCG dead when they banned Mystic Mine?
Maxx "C", Chicken Game, Vanities Emptiness, Kaiser Colosseum lmao
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:42 pm
by Christen57
Futuregamer wrote:Christen57 wrote:You do not tell someone to "try growing some balls" when you're heavily dependent on them for your income.[/size]
Heh... I never realised DB uses ads because I use an ad-blocker, I always thought they had just contacted cardmarket or the troll&toad directly, like they had with Dueling Network.
Alright, if that's the case I admit I was being unfair to the judge (I do still support the MM player killing themselves though, just like all MM players should).
...Honestly if using DB supports Google I might stop using it entirely. I have switched to DuckduckGo for about two years for that same reason.
Using duelingbook doesn't support google. Using duelingbook supports duelingbook. Google just assists in making that possible.
greg503 wrote:Christen57 wrote:How is the OCG dead when they banned Mystic Mine?
Maxx "C", Chicken Game, Vanities Emptiness, Kaiser Colosseum lmao
https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2021-10-metagame-report-0/The OCG hardly plays Chicken Game or Kaiser Colosseum, most of them do play Maxx "C", but very few of them main deck or even side deck Vanity's Emptiness.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:37 am
by greg503
Christen57 wrote:greg503 wrote:Christen57 wrote:How is the OCG dead when they banned Mystic Mine?
Maxx "C", Chicken Game, Vanities Emptiness, Kaiser Colosseum lmao
https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2021-10-metagame-report-0/The OCG hardly plays Chicken Game or Kaiser Colosseum, most of them do play Maxx "C", but very few of them main deck or even side deck Vanity's Emptiness.
It's almost like OCG players have a different mindset about abusing broken effects
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:26 am
by KTeknis
Christen57 wrote:Understand what? Who's the hero here?
Well let's just say... I overidealized someone...
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:29 pm
by Christen57
KTeknis wrote:Christen57 wrote:Understand what? Who's the hero here?
Well let's just say... I overidealized someone...
Who?
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:51 pm
by Futuregamer
Christen57 wrote:KTeknis wrote:Christen57 wrote:Understand what? Who's the hero here?
Well let's just say... I overidealized someone...
Who?
Oh, come on, who do you think?
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:13 pm
by Christen57
Futuregamer wrote:Christen57 wrote:KTeknis wrote:Well let's just say... I overidealized someone...
Who?
Oh, come on, who do you think?
Either one of us maybe?
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:45 pm
by Zack223
Look at this Degenerate Combo and it's Degenerate End Board
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=731601-33393627 Please watch
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:20 pm
by Zack223
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:19 pm
by Futuregamer
The first one took you 6 reshuffles, so I stopped watching, the second one is a vanguard deck, so I stopped watching. & noone's interested in solo mode.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:16 am
by Renji Asuka
Futuregamer wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=76788-33311075
What a piece of garbage. And of course the admin enables him.
Imagine telling or suggesting people to off themselves because of a card that is legal to play in the TCG/OCG.
Imagine lying about the situation....bruh...
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:19 am
by Futuregamer
Renji Asuka wrote:Futuregamer wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=76788-33311075
What a piece of garbage. And of course the admin enables him.
Imagine telling or suggesting people to off themselves because of a card that is legal to play in the TCG/OCG.
Imagine lying about the situation....bruh...
How am I lying? I posted the replay right there, it has all the proof.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:39 am
by Renji Asuka
Futuregamer wrote:Renji Asuka wrote:Futuregamer wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=76788-33311075
What a piece of garbage. And of course the admin enables him.
Imagine telling or suggesting people to off themselves because of a card that is legal to play in the TCG/OCG.
Imagine lying about the situation....bruh...
How am I lying? I posted the replay right there, it has all the proof.
The lie is "admin enables him" no, the admin did not.
There is 0 excuse you can make that makes it fine to tell people to off themselves (suggesting or otherwise).
That is not appropriate behavior. Don't be a shitty person.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:45 am
by Futuregamer
Renji Asuka wrote:Futuregamer wrote:Renji Asuka wrote:Imagine telling or suggesting people to off themselves because of a card that is legal to play in the TCG/OCG.
Imagine lying about the situation....bruh...
How am I lying? I posted the replay right there, it has all the proof.
The lie is "admin enables him" no, the admin did not.
There is 0 excuse you can make that makes it fine to tell people to off themselves (suggesting or otherwise).
That is not appropriate behavior. Don't be a shitty person.
The admin acted exclusively to protect the feefies of the Mystic Mine player, how is that not enabling?
(edit: And obviously the MM player was looking for excuses from the start, look at how he phrased it before the admin call "your words hurt my feelings". These people need to have their teeth broken in) There is no harm that these people
don't deserve.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:16 am
by Renji Asuka
Futuregamer wrote:Renji Asuka wrote:Futuregamer wrote:How am I lying? I posted the replay right there, it has all the proof.
The lie is "admin enables him" no, the admin did not.
There is 0 excuse you can make that makes it fine to tell people to off themselves (suggesting or otherwise).
That is not appropriate behavior. Don't be a shitty person.
The admin acted exclusively to protect the feefies of the Mystic Mine player, how is that not enabling?
(edit: And obviously the MM player was looking for excuses from the start, look at how he phrased it before the admin call "your words hurt my feelings". These people need to have their teeth broken in) There is no harm that these people
don't deserve.
No, it's the admin enforcing the rules.
Harassment Severe
Threatening, physical, violent, or overly abusive conduct:
- Telling another member you want them to die, without being provoked.
- Telling another member you are going to kill them or physically harm them.
- Threatening another member's family, household, well-being, etc. by saying that they or their property will be personally harmed.
Also no, they didn't "ask for it".
There is 0 reason to ever suggest to a person or even tell another person to off themselves over a card game. There is 0 reason for YOU to take out whatever bullshit is going on with you on another person who has nothing to do with it. Don't be a shitty person. It's not hard.