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Christen57 wrote:

Futuregamer wrote:

Christen57 wrote:
[1:32] Activated Set "Personal Spoofing" in S-4
[1:33] Declared effect of "Personal Spoofing" in S-4
[1:34] Returned "Altergeist Meluseek" from M-3 to top of deck
[1:36] Shuffled deck
[1:37] "resp?"
[1:44] Activated Set "Dark Bribe" in S-5
[1:45] Pointed at "Personal Spoofing" in S-4
[1:47] Viewed deck
[1:51] Special Summoned "Altergeist Meluseek" from Deck to M-3 (ATK)

You made an illegal play here, Futuregamer. You should not have brought back the Altergeist Meluseek from the deck after shuffling it into the deck for Personal Spoofing's cost. Once you pay the cost to activate Personal Spoofing's effect, that cost does not get refunded, even if the activation/effect of Personal Spoofing itself is negated.

At least you still won though.

Not sure why people lately have such a problem with this ruling. It also happened yesterday. Dark Bribe negates the activation of the card, not the effect, Personal Spoofing never had a chance trigger its effect.

Dark Bribe is a SS3 as a counter trap, and it activates only in response to Spoofing's initial activation as a card, not its effect, therefore, I could not possibly have a timing window to use spoofing's effect.

Look at the yugipedia article I linked. It specifically says "As long as they both meet their activation timings, a Continuous Trap Card and exactly one of its Trigger-like Effects or Quick-like Effects can be activated during the same Chain Link."

In other words, there are 2 ways you can activate a set Personal Spoofing. The first way is that you can activate the set card, but choose not to also activate it's search effect. In that case, when the opponent activates Dark Bribe in response, Personal Spoofing's card activation is negated, but you never chose to use it's search effect so you would never shuffle anything into the deck for cost.

However, the second way is that you can activate the the set Personal Spoofing and choose to also activate it's search effect in the same chain link, meaning if you activate your set Personal Spoofing as chain link 1 and decide that you want to also activate it's search effect immediately, that search effect will also be chain link 1 (meaning both the activation of the set Personal Spoofing and the activation of Personal Spoofing's search effect will be chain link 1), and since you're using the search effect, you're paying the cost by shuffling the Altergeist card into the deck, so if the opponent chains Dark Bribe in this scenario as chain link 2 since a set trap was activated, Personal Spoofing's activation will be negated, but since you still chose to also activate Personal Spoofing's search effect as chain link 1 by shuffling your Altergeist card into the deck, that cost is still paid, but Dark Bribe negates Personal Spoofing's card activation, and now you don't get the search off of that negated Personal Spoofing.

Futuregamer wrote:Btw don't mean to spam, but I just finished this one, and...
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=76788-31798543

3.5 hours of stalling.

By a Mystic Mine player, obviously.

DarwisBellium92 wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=436556-31822231
This guy (blue player) use the NSFW materials own custom cards, it must be reported and banned.

greg503 wrote:

DarwisBellium92 wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=436556-31822231
This guy (blue player) use the NSFW materials own custom cards, it must be reported and banned.

Did you use posting.php?mode=post&f=7

DarwisBellium92 wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=436556-31822231
This guy (blue player) use the NSFW materials own custom cards, it must be reported and banned.

Futuregamer wrote:

DarwisBellium92 wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=436556-31822231
This guy (blue player) use the NSFW materials own custom cards, it must be reported and banned.

While I don't support such crude and immature choices for images, your cards are way worse.

DarwisBellium92 wrote:

greg503 wrote:

DarwisBellium92 wrote:https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=436556-31822231
This guy (blue player) use the NSFW materials own custom cards, it must be reported and banned.

Did you use posting.php?mode=post&f=7

Send it

Zack223 wrote:Aprill being you know what https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=31910005

Futuregamer wrote:

Zack223 wrote:Aprill being you know what https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=31910005

I completely disagree with the judges issuing warning for mere insults as well, it's part of the game. If a player can't handle people being meanies on the internet, they need to grow some b... Backbone.

Futuregamer wrote:

Zack223 wrote:Aprill being you know what https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=31910005

Ooph, this was a mess. While Hohobig should have declared properly, he was in the right there, it's not his fault the opponent DC'ed and then threw a tantrum over it. I completely disagree with the judges issuing warning for mere insults as well, it's part of the game. If a player can't handle people being meanies on the internet, they need to grow some b... Backbone.

Edit: They just started game 2 and April, the guy crying, is playing Mystic Mine. "Well imagine my shock!"

Christen57 wrote:

Futuregamer wrote:

Zack223 wrote:Aprill being you know what https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=31910005

I completely disagree with the judges issuing warning for mere insults as well, it's part of the game. If a player can't handle people being meanies on the internet, they need to grow some b... Backbone.

Judges don't want players using the chat for anything unrelated to the duel, such as personal insults, which is why judges end up giving warnings over that stuff and even game losses to players who take it too far with that stuff. Any personal issues a player wishes to address with their opponent should be saved for after the duel is over.

Both players in this duel were in the wrong in my opinion. Hohobig was in the wrong for not using the Declare button to declare Nyannyan's effect and instead just saying "ny" and "mec" in the chat which could have meant anything as April pointed out, and April was in the wrong for taking at least 3 minutes after Hohobig finished resolving Nyannyan's effect to decide that April wanted to respond to that Nyannyan effect, which is too long and too late in my opinion. Then from there, both players hurled insults at each other until the judge and eventually a second judge had to order them to stop and eventually hand out penalties.

What really confuses me is where April says "I was legit on main screen stuck And couldn't reconnect forlike 3 mins" even though the log shows that April was only disconnected for like 10 seconds at most. If that really did happen, then Xteven needs to fix that so it doesn't show you as still being present in the duel when you no longer are. It does suck when you're trying to log in and duelingbook tells you you're already logged in when you know you aren't, I've had that happen to me a few times before, and the judge probably would have believed that April was screwed over by duelingbook's servers if the logs didn't also show April viewing and stop viewing the graveyard at [6:30], [6:33], [6:36], and [6:38], which would have been impossible for April to do if April really was kicked at that time.

I guess the lesson here is that while you can't control how laggy duelingbook gets at times, you can control your attitude as well as the words you say, and neither of these players controlled their attitudes or the words they said.

There was no point in April complaining that April would get a freeze while Hohobig would just get a warning. Once you start calling your opponent names just because your opponent called you names, you're rolling the dice at that point, and then the duel will end with either one of you or both of you getting a freeze or game loss, depending on what the judge feels is best. You don't break the rules just because other people are breaking them.

Zack223 wrote:

Christen57 wrote:

Futuregamer wrote:I completely disagree with the judges issuing warning for mere insults as well, it's part of the game. If a player can't handle people being meanies on the internet, they need to grow some b... Backbone.

Judges don't want players using the chat for anything unrelated to the duel, such as personal insults, which is why judges end up giving warnings over that stuff and even game losses to players who take it too far with that stuff. Any personal issues a player wishes to address with their opponent should be saved for after the duel is over.

Both players in this duel were in the wrong in my opinion. Hohobig was in the wrong for not using the Declare button to declare Nyannyan's effect and instead just saying "ny" and "mec" in the chat which could have meant anything as April pointed out, and April was in the wrong for taking at least 3 minutes after Hohobig finished resolving Nyannyan's effect to decide that April wanted to respond to that Nyannyan effect, which is too long and too late in my opinion. Then from there, both players hurled insults at each other until the judge and eventually a second judge had to order them to stop and eventually hand out penalties.

What really confuses me is where April says "I was legit on main screen stuck And couldn't reconnect forlike 3 mins" even though the log shows that April was only disconnected for like 10 seconds at most. If that really did happen, then Xteven needs to fix that so it doesn't show you as still being present in the duel when you no longer are. It does suck when you're trying to log in and duelingbook tells you you're already logged in when you know you aren't, I've had that happen to me a few times before, and the judge probably would have believed that April was screwed over by duelingbook's servers if the logs didn't also show April viewing and stop viewing the graveyard at [6:30], [6:33], [6:36], and [6:38], which would have been impossible for April to do if April really was kicked at that time.

I guess the lesson here is that while you can't control how laggy duelingbook gets at times, you can control your attitude as well as the words you say, and neither of these players controlled their attitudes or the words they said.

There was no point in April complaining that April would get a freeze while Hohobig would just get a warning. Once you start calling your opponent names just because your opponent called you names, you're rolling the dice at that point, and then the duel will end with either one of you or both of you getting a freeze or game loss, depending on what the judge feels is best. You don't break the rules just because other people are breaking them.

I don't Disagree with you Chris Everyone one HATES April! and thats why I hate her too!