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Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:17 am
by Debt
LightCaster wrote:
Because, and you may wanna sit down for this, Yugioh is played across the entire world and not just North America and Japan. Mind blowing I know. And because America is weird when it comes to imports, Americans received Instant Fusion later than everyone else. But I know it's hard understanding that the rest of the world ALSO plays Yugioh.
Americans didn't get Instant fusion later than everyone else. They also got it in 2006. Americans got an exclusive printing of Instant Fusion in 2011 because it was the only tcg region to get those duel terminal arcade cabinets.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:18 am
by LightCaster
Debt wrote:LightCaster wrote:
Because, and you may wanna sit down for this, Yugioh is played across the entire world and not just North America and Japan. Mind blowing I know. And because America is weird when it comes to imports, Americans received Instant Fusion later than everyone else. But I know it's hard understanding that the rest of the world ALSO plays Yugioh.
Americans didn't get Instant fusion later than everyone else. They also got it in 2006. Americans got an exclusive printing of Instant Fusion in 2011 because it was the only tcg region to get those duelist terminal arcade cabinets.
I was misinformed on reasoning. I apologize.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:20 am
by Debt
LightCaster wrote:
I was misinformed on reasoning. I apologize.
tbh it doesn't matter, crystal won't acknowledge facts
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:22 am
by LightCaster
Debt wrote:LightCaster wrote:
I was misinformed on reasoning. I apologize.
tbh it doesn't matter, crystal won't acknowledge facts
You could tell him 2+2=4 and he'll come up with a bullshit reason for it to equal 5.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:31 am
by Renji Asuka
I challenged a friend to challenge, Make a deck revolving around a card I pick and he'd pick my card to build around and we duel each other. To win we have to summon our card and bonus points for winning.
For him, I chose for him Zushin the Sleeping Giant, while he chose for me Sophia Goddess of Rebirth.
This is the result:
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=5191-27214997Mind you, we take back moves when we fuck things up. And the situation he put me in made me think too much.
If you're interested in my deck:
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=7232523Also note, I swapped out Pile Armed Dragon for Tempest after the match, going to later put in a better fusion engine.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:32 am
by Lil Oldman
Renji Asuka wrote:I challenged a friend to challenge
Funny how that works.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:36 am
by NiwatoriFTW
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-27060401[0:00] CrystalMusic: CrystalMusic hosted Single (with siding) in Custom Cards (Unrated) with duel note "No Anime or Manga. No Pends."
[0:00] PlacetMihi: Accepted PlacetMihi into duel
[0:02] PlacetMihi: Won Rock-Paper-Scissors
[0:07] PlacetMihi: Chose to go first
[0:07] CrystalMusic: Drew "Space - Senate of The Cosmos"
[0:07] CrystalMusic: Drew "Sunshot"
[0:07] CrystalMusic: Drew "Space - Grand Healer"
[0:07] CrystalMusic: Drew "Space - Cosmos Dragon"
[0:07] CrystalMusic: Drew "Space Bridge"
[0:07] PlacetMihi: Drew "Take That!"
[0:07] PlacetMihi: Drew "Objection!"
[0:07] PlacetMihi: Drew "Magatama of Hidden Truth"
[0:07] PlacetMihi: Drew "Defender of Rising Flame"
[0:07] PlacetMihi: Drew "Objection!"
[0:09] PlacetMihi: "gl"
[0:17] PlacetMihi: Entered Standby Phase
[0:21] PlacetMihi: Entered Main Phase 1
[0:24] PlacetMihi: Normal Summoned "Defender of Rising Flame" from hand (4/5) to M-3
[0:27] PlacetMihi: Declared effect of "Defender of Rising Flame" in M-3
[0:27] CrystalMusic: "no"
[0:31] CrystalMusic: "i siad no anime or manga"
[0:35] CrystalMusic: "that includes art for cards"
[0:35] PlacetMihi: "this isn"
[0:37] PlacetMihi: "t an anime"
[0:42] PlacetMihi: "or manga"
[0:50] PlacetMihi: "its a video game"
[0:51] CrystalMusic: "the art is in the same style of what anime and manga looks like"
[0:53] CrystalMusic: Left duel
[0:53] CrystalMusic: Lost Duel
At this point is plain paranoia or perhaps just another chapter of his quixotic pursue for the "perfect" duel to please himself.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:41 am
by CrystalMusic
Debt wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:how could a card be released WORLDWIDE before it says it was released in north america? answer that!
Because NA was the only tcg region to get Duel Terminal. So the tcg worldwide release happened before the NA exclusive Duel Terminal release. Since NA also got cyberdark impact along side the other tcg regions, NA first got instant fusion in 2006 not 2011.
lies. thats not what the wiki says
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:43 am
by Debt
CrystalMusic wrote:
lies. thats not what the wiki says
Did NA not get the Cyberdark Impact booster set? Do you think NA is exempt from worldwide tcg? If you think that NA didn't get cyberdark impact that means NA straight up hasn't gotten a booster set since worldwide TCG became a thing
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:48 am
by CrystalMusic
let me give you an example of how i decide a cards release date: NORTH AMERICAN. Not world wide! the wiki has a section called: TCG Sets. in that section is a subsection called North America. it is here that i go by release dates. (unless im also counting the North American TV Show - like the legendary dragons)
For example: Ancient Gear Golem is from 2006! 2006 - MF03-EN008 - Mattel Action Figure promotional cards: Series 3 - Normal Parallel Rare -
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Golemtherefore Ancient Gear Golem is a 2006 card NOT a 2005!
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:49 am
by NiwatoriFTW
CrystalMusic wrote:Debt wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:how could a card be released WORLDWIDE before it says it was released in north america? answer that!
Because NA was the only tcg region to get Duel Terminal. So the tcg worldwide release happened before the NA exclusive Duel Terminal release. Since NA also got cyberdark impact along side the other tcg regions, NA first got instant fusion in 2006 not 2011.
lies. thats not what the wiki says
Soul of the Duelist, the very first set that released Instant Fusion in the TCG:
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberdark_ImpactIf you scroll down a bit, you will see this:
Release dates:
Japan: August 10, 2006
North America: November 15, 2006
France: November 4, 2006
Germany: November 15, 2006
Italy: November 24, 2006
South Korea: December 21, 2007
Spain: November 4, 2006
The wiki DOES day Instant Fusion got released in North America back in 2006.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:51 am
by Debt
CrystalMusic wrote:let me give you an example of how i decide a cards release date: NORTH AMERICAN. Not world wide! the wiki has a section called: TCG Sets. in that section is a subsection called North America. it is here that i go by release dates.
For example: Ancient Gear Golem is from 2006! 2006 - MF03-EN008 - Mattel Action Figure promotional cards: Series 3Normal Parallel Rare -
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Golemthere for Ancient Gear Golem is a 2006 card NOT a 2005!
So it's arbitrary. NA first got Ancient Gear Golem in 2005 in the Lost Millennium set. But because NA also got an exclusive promo that came with a toy in 2006 you decide to remove Ancient Gear Golem from the card pool because in reality you don't want to play against Ancient Gear Golem
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:52 am
by CrystalMusic
NiwatoriFTW wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:Debt wrote:Because NA was the only tcg region to get Duel Terminal. So the tcg worldwide release happened before the NA exclusive Duel Terminal release. Since NA also got cyberdark impact along side the other tcg regions, NA first got instant fusion in 2006 not 2011.
lies. thats not what the wiki says
Soul of the Duelist, the very first set that released Instant Fusion in the TCG:
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberdark_ImpactIf you scroll down a bit, you will see this:
Release dates:
Japan: August 10, 2006
North America: November 15, 2006
France: November 4, 2006
Germany: November 15, 2006
Italy: November 24, 2006
South Korea: December 21, 2007
Spain: November 4, 2006
The wiki DOES day Instant Fusion got released in North America back in 2006.
the wiki for the card itself does not. so if the wiki made specifically for the card says its from 2011 then its 2011
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:53 am
by CrystalMusic
Debt wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:let me give you an example of how i decide a cards release date: NORTH AMERICAN. Not world wide! the wiki has a section called: TCG Sets. in that section is a subsection called North America. it is here that i go by release dates.
For example: Ancient Gear Golem is from 2006! 2006 - MF03-EN008 - Mattel Action Figure promotional cards: Series 3Normal Parallel Rare -
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Golemthere for Ancient Gear Golem is a 2006 card NOT a 2005!
So it's arbitrary. NA first got Ancient Gear Golem in 2005 in the Lost Millennium set. But because NA also got an exclusive promo that came with a toy in 2006 you decide to remove Ancient Gear Golem from the card pool because in reality you don't want to play against Ancient Gear Golem
you litterally just ignored the proof in the link! so your argument is invalid!
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:55 am
by Debt
CrystalMusic wrote:the wiki for the card itself does not. so if the wiki made specifically for the card says its from 2011 then its 2011
So why does a 2011 promo make a 2006 card a 2011 card? It's just you being pedantic.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:56 am
by Debt
CrystalMusic wrote:
you litterally just ignored the proof in the link! so your argument is invalid!
You didn't provide proof. You made an assertion that a 2006 toy promo invalidates a 2005 booster release because the region you play in got the promo exclusively. Earliest tcg release trumps future exclusive promos.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:58 am
by CrystalMusic
Debt wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:
you litterally just ignored the proof in the link! so your argument is invalid!
You didn't provide proof. You made the argument that a 2006 toy promo invalidates a 2005 booster release because the region you play in got the promo exclusively. Earliest tcg release trumps future exclusive promos.
ignore the proof all you want! youre just mad you have none and that it means im right and you hate when im right! and it also means u cant argue with the proof provided because you know youre wrong and you cant win. so why dont you take the L and walk away!
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:00 am
by LightCaster
Debt wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:let me give you an example of how i decide a cards release date: NORTH AMERICAN. Not world wide! the wiki has a section called: TCG Sets. in that section is a subsection called North America. it is here that i go by release dates.
For example: Ancient Gear Golem is from 2006! 2006 - MF03-EN008 - Mattel Action Figure promotional cards: Series 3Normal Parallel Rare -
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Golemthere for Ancient Gear Golem is a 2006 card NOT a 2005!
So it's arbitrary. NA first got Ancient Gear Golem in 2005 in the Lost Millennium set. But because NA also got an exclusive promo that came with a toy in 2006 you decide to remove Ancient Gear Golem from the card pool because in reality you don't want to play against Ancient Gear Golem
Now I kinda wanna face CrystalMusic with Ancient Gears. He'd probably throw a fit because Ancient Gears invalidates trap cards during the BP.
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:01 am
by CrystalMusic
LightCaster wrote:Debt wrote:CrystalMusic wrote:let me give you an example of how i decide a cards release date: NORTH AMERICAN. Not world wide! the wiki has a section called: TCG Sets. in that section is a subsection called North America. it is here that i go by release dates.
For example: Ancient Gear Golem is from 2006! 2006 - MF03-EN008 - Mattel Action Figure promotional cards: Series 3Normal Parallel Rare -
https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Gear_Golemthere for Ancient Gear Golem is a 2006 card NOT a 2005!
So it's arbitrary. NA first got Ancient Gear Golem in 2005 in the Lost Millennium set. But because NA also got an exclusive promo that came with a toy in 2006 you decide to remove Ancient Gear Golem from the card pool because in reality you don't want to play against Ancient Gear Golem
Now I kinda wanna face CrystalMusic with Ancient Gears. He'd probably throw a fit because Ancient Gears invalidates trap cards during the BP.
AG says u cant activate traps. but if the traps are already activated then they are resolving an effect so all i need is 2 traps and u cant even hit me or my monsters. but also, how quick you forget:
YOURE BLOCKED!!!
Re: I will use this thread for saving and sharing replays with others
Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:02 am
by Debt
CrystalMusic wrote:ignore the proof all you want! youre just mad you have none and that it means im right and you hate when im right! and it also means u cant argue with the proof provided because you know youre wrong and you cant win.
You've decided that future region exclusive promos trump booster releases. I believe the opposite. Boosters trump exclusive promos because it represents the earliest a player regardless of region can acquire the card. The precedence you set means that NA hasn't gotten 99% of cards that have been released. Which is illogical.