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With Structure Deck R: Devil's Gate (aka Dark World Structure Deck being remade) Source: https://ygorganization.com/ocg-structur ... vils-gate/

I'm just EXTREMELY HYPED. Been playing Dark Worlds since Elemental Energy booster pack! Picked up the structure deck in 2012 @.@ And now we are getting it remade.

Now we also have a chance of seeing 3 anime only cards possibly being printed! Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, Cobal Excavator of Dark World and Dark Corridor!

I just really hope they make Cobal and Colorless actually good and I hope that Dark Corridor is untouched!

I doubt it will put Dark world into top tier contention.

[quote="Sound4":1d2u1io5]I doubt it will put Dark world into top tier contention.[/quote:1d2u1io5]
You don't realize Dark Worlds back in Elemental Energy was actually META, then again in the META spotlight in 2012 when they got their structure deck. Then META once more when mixed with Dangers and was even involved with a FTK in if I recall 2018.

But tell me how you doubt they will be Top Tier

[quote="Renji Asuka":34pncmv4][quote="Sound4":34pncmv4]I doubt it will put Dark world into top tier contention.[/quote:34pncmv4]
You don't realize Dark Worlds back in Elemental Energy was actually META, then again in the META spotlight in 2012 when they got their structure deck. Then META once more when mixed with Dangers and was even involved with a FTK in if I recall 2018.

But tell me how you doubt they will be Top Tier [/quote:34pncmv4]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.

[quote="Sound4":1jggr91b][quote="Renji Asuka":1jggr91b][quote="Sound4":1jggr91b]I doubt it will put Dark world into top tier contention.[/quote:1jggr91b]
You don't realize Dark Worlds back in Elemental Energy was actually META, then again in the META spotlight in 2012 when they got their structure deck. Then META once more when mixed with Dangers and was even involved with a FTK in if I recall 2018.

But tell me how you doubt they will be Top Tier [/quote:1jggr91b]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.[/quote:1jggr91b]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.

[quote="Renji Asuka":qi2nunjm][quote="Sound4":qi2nunjm][quote="Renji Asuka":qi2nunjm]
You don't realize Dark Worlds back in Elemental Energy was actually META, then again in the META spotlight in 2012 when they got their structure deck. Then META once more when mixed with Dangers and was even involved with a FTK in if I recall 2018.

But tell me how you doubt they will be Top Tier [/quote:qi2nunjm]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.[/quote:qi2nunjm]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.[/quote:qi2nunjm]
Dark Worlds need erratas to be good...
because their effects are written in a fucking disgusting way

[quote="greg503":1jpzeyyo][quote="Renji Asuka":1jpzeyyo][quote="Sound4":1jpzeyyo]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.[/quote:1jpzeyyo]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.[/quote:1jpzeyyo]
Dark Worlds need erratas to be good...
because their effects are written in a fucking disgusting way[/quote:1jpzeyyo]
Yeah...idk what they were thinking in regards to them being worded the way they were.

Well, this structure deck thing is the best opportunity for Mass Erratas.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3m55j2uz][quote="Sound4":3m55j2uz][quote="Renji Asuka":3m55j2uz]
You don't realize Dark Worlds back in Elemental Energy was actually META, then again in the META spotlight in 2012 when they got their structure deck. Then META once more when mixed with Dangers and was even involved with a FTK in if I recall 2018.

But tell me how you doubt they will be Top Tier [/quote:3m55j2uz]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.[/quote:3m55j2uz]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.[/quote:3m55j2uz]
The consistency is nothing special it an draw a lot but in a format when people are playing tons of handraps you won't be able to get into your main engine consistently.

Apollousa is a good card but if your board is relying on that then in a format in which people are playing droplet or chalice Apollousa isn't what it was a few years ago.

As you said Called by the grave and Droll destroy this deck so you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma.

[quote="Sound4":1ayrvb6w][quote="Renji Asuka":1ayrvb6w][quote="Sound4":1ayrvb6w]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.[/quote:1ayrvb6w]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.[/quote:1ayrvb6w]
The consistency is nothing special it an draw a lot but in a format when people are playing tons of handraps you won't be able to get into your main engine consistently.

Apollousa is a good card but if your board is relying on that then in a format in which people are playing droplet or chalice Apollousa isn't what it was a few years ago.

As you said Called by the grave and Droll destroy this deck so you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma.[/quote:1ayrvb6w]
When no one is actually running Droll, I don't need to fear hand traps. But please, keep telling me you don't know anything about dark worlds without telling me

[quote="Sound4":1bpvpelr][quote="Renji Asuka":1bpvpelr][quote="Sound4":1bpvpelr]
Dark world don't have much interactions with current meta and the consistency is not that good. It's boards are not that threatening and since people are still playing forbiddem droplet for other strategies it makes Dark world not that good. Plus I did some research and 2012 yugioh wasn't a very powerful format but was pretty good.[/quote:1bpvpelr]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.[/quote:1bpvpelr]
The consistency is nothing special it an draw a lot but in a format when people are playing tons of handraps you won't be able to get into your main engine consistently.

Apollousa is a good card but if your board is relying on that then in a format in which people are playing droplet or chalice Apollousa isn't what it was a few years ago.

As you said Called by the grave and Droll destroy this deck so you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma.[/quote:1bpvpelr]
Sound4, I know you don't know VERY GOOD the meta of Dark World archetype from what I see.
Think twice before saying shit, thank you.

[quote="Renji Asuka":czo5jf0p][quote="Sound4":czo5jf0p][quote="Renji Asuka":czo5jf0p]
>Not Consistent

Bruh, it is EXTREMELY consistent of a deck. It has a TON of draw power, and even can search by snoww.

>Its boards are not that threatening

Depending on the variant you play, turn 1 it can be really nasty with an infinite monster negate involving Dark World Brainwashing. Then you have the deck's ability to play Dingirsu which can not only send a card your opponent has to the GY, it can also protect your field. It can also play 4 mat Apollousa with EASE and still make plays afterwards. And you can even use Union Carrier to play Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (if you're playing Master Duel). And this isn't even talking about going 2nd where the deck LOVES to break boards if playing an Xyz variant.

>Forbidden Droplets
Bruh, the deck doesn't care about Forbidden Droplets. The monsters you bring out from the extra deck will, but that's it, which again going back on the previous point the deck loves to break boards. So Forbidden Droplets isn't an issue.

If you want to bring up the weaknesses of the deck, then at least name the actual weaknesses instead of droplets. Called by the Grave CAN hurt the deck (depending on what you stop), but its at 1. Droll & Lockbird shuts the deck down. Same with Macro Cosmos and the like.

I'm not saying the deck is unbeatable, but at least have knowledge on what the deck can and can't do.

Also Dark Corridor: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Corridor If this is added untouched (which isn't too far off as most dark world cards aren't once per turn or hard once per turn), the deck would get an insane boost to consistency, being able to say add idk, Grapha from the deck to say make Trade-In live (Yes I know Trade-In doesn't trigger Dark Worlds, but it can trigger Dangers), I then pitch say Broww and get another card or pitch snoww and get another card.

https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Cobal,_E ... Dark_World This would need a complete redesign, as its just bad, even from GX era standards

Assuming we could be getting Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World, we have no idea what it can or can't do as it was never shown in the anime: https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Colorles ... Dark_World

These 3 cards are the only Dark World cards that haven't been printed that was from the anime.

So please, don't act like the deck can't do anything or won't do anything despite not knowing what the new support will be let alone what the retrain will be.[/quote:czo5jf0p]
The consistency is nothing special it an draw a lot but in a format when people are playing tons of handraps you won't be able to get into your main engine consistently.

Apollousa is a good card but if your board is relying on that then in a format in which people are playing droplet or chalice Apollousa isn't what it was a few years ago.

As you said Called by the grave and Droll destroy this deck so you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma.[/quote:czo5jf0p]
When no one is actually running Droll, I don't need to fear hand traps. But please, keep telling me you don't know anything about dark worlds without telling me [/quote:czo5jf0p]
A lot of people run droll in the side deck for decks like Floowandereeze which are everywhere.

Me when playing 1 specific card that you aren't guaranteed to draw kills an entire deck:

[quote="Sound4":2hjx130w][quote="Renji Asuka":2hjx130w][quote="Sound4":2hjx130w]
The consistency is nothing special it an draw a lot but in a format when people are playing tons of handraps you won't be able to get into your main engine consistently.

Apollousa is a good card but if your board is relying on that then in a format in which people are playing droplet or chalice Apollousa isn't what it was a few years ago.

As you said Called by the grave and Droll destroy this deck so you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma.[/quote:2hjx130w]
When no one is actually running Droll, I don't need to fear hand traps. But please, keep telling me you don't know anything about dark worlds without telling me [/quote:2hjx130w]
A lot of people run droll in the side deck for decks like Floowandereeze which are everywhere.[/quote:2hjx130w]
And there's the truth. It's used in the side.

When playing Dark Worlds, you side against your opponent's side. So it's almost like Droll is pointless.

[quote="Renji Asuka":26v9dacs][quote="Sound4":26v9dacs][quote="Renji Asuka":26v9dacs]
When no one is actually running Droll, I don't need to fear hand traps. But please, keep telling me you don't know anything about dark worlds without telling me [/quote:26v9dacs]
A lot of people run droll in the side deck for decks like Floowandereeze which are everywhere.[/quote:26v9dacs]
And there's the truth. It's used in the side.

When playing Dark Worlds, you side against your opponent's side. So it's almost like Droll is pointless.[/quote:26v9dacs]
now the issue becomes which one of you draws correctly to fuck the other

[quote="PENMASTER":14zgvbhw][quote="Renji Asuka":14zgvbhw][quote="Sound4":14zgvbhw]
A lot of people run droll in the side deck for decks like Floowandereeze which are everywhere.[/quote:14zgvbhw]
And there's the truth. It's used in the side.

When playing Dark Worlds, you side against your opponent's side. So it's almost like Droll is pointless.[/quote:14zgvbhw]
now the issue becomes which one of you draws correctly to fuck the other[/quote:14zgvbhw]
Nah, the issue becomes "I never brought up the fact that they'd be Top Tier", which he chose to argue on, pointlessly might I add, while also not having any knowledge on how the deck operates.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1h50jwkh][quote="PENMASTER":1h50jwkh][quote="Renji Asuka":1h50jwkh]
And there's the truth. It's used in the side.

When playing Dark Worlds, you side against your opponent's side. So it's almost like Droll is pointless.[/quote:1h50jwkh]
now the issue becomes which one of you draws correctly to fuck the other[/quote:1h50jwkh]
Nah, the issue becomes "I never brought up the fact that they'd be Top Tier", which he chose to argue on, pointlessly might I add, while also not having any knowledge on how the deck operates.[/quote:1h50jwkh]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.

[quote="Renji Asuka":21fku59e][quote="Sound4":21fku59e][quote="Renji Asuka":21fku59e]
When no one is actually running Droll, I don't need to fear hand traps. But please, keep telling me you don't know anything about dark worlds without telling me [/quote:21fku59e]
A lot of people run droll in the side deck for decks like Floowandereeze which are everywhere.[/quote:21fku59e]
And there's the truth. It's used in the side.

When playing Dark Worlds, you side against your opponent's side. So it's almost like Droll is pointless.[/quote:21fku59e]
That is why I literally said you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma to counter droll. It doesn't seem like you are reading properly nor does it seem like you know much about this current format.

Who actually cares if a deck they value is viable competitively or not?

[quote="Sound4":30xvrypl][quote="Renji Asuka":30xvrypl][quote="Sound4":30xvrypl]
A lot of people run droll in the side deck for decks like Floowandereeze which are everywhere.[/quote:30xvrypl]
And there's the truth. It's used in the side.

When playing Dark Worlds, you side against your opponent's side. So it's almost like Droll is pointless.[/quote:30xvrypl]
That is why I literally said you should be maiming or at least siding Gamma to counter droll. It doesn't seem like you are reading properly nor does it seem like you know much about this current format.[/quote:30xvrypl]
And it goes back to my main point.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIDE DECK CARD THAT ISN'T MAIN DECKED.

Also what Lil Oldman says.

[quote="Sound4":2ltqkrrl][quote="Renji Asuka":2ltqkrrl][quote="PENMASTER":2ltqkrrl]
now the issue becomes which one of you draws correctly to fuck the other[/quote:2ltqkrrl]
Nah, the issue becomes "I never brought up the fact that they'd be Top Tier", which he chose to argue on, pointlessly might I add, while also not having any knowledge on how the deck operates.[/quote:2ltqkrrl]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:2ltqkrrl]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3bywl959][quote="Sound4":3bywl959][quote="Renji Asuka":3bywl959]
Nah, the issue becomes "I never brought up the fact that they'd be Top Tier", which he chose to argue on, pointlessly might I add, while also not having any knowledge on how the deck operates.[/quote:3bywl959]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:3bywl959]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:3bywl959]
Drytron sucks outside of Master Duel, it's all about the Adventurer engine now

[quote="greg503":2wy6nqi2][quote="Renji Asuka":2wy6nqi2][quote="Sound4":2wy6nqi2]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:2wy6nqi2]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:2wy6nqi2]
Drytron sucks outside of Master Duel, it's all about the Adventurer engine now[/quote:2wy6nqi2]
I mean, Drytron having 1 Benten sucks, I get why, but won't stop me!

Actually, I don't plan on building it irl so.

[quote="greg503":29szzgd7][quote="Renji Asuka":29szzgd7][quote="Sound4":29szzgd7]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:29szzgd7]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:29szzgd7]
Drytron sucks outside of Master Duel, it's all about the Adventurer engine now[/quote:29szzgd7]
It is on the high end if tier 2 and no it isn't bad. The Megalith is still broken bethor allows you to destroy multiple cards and even though Benten is at 1 it is easily searchable.

[quote="Renji Asuka":c5tukfpu][quote="Sound4":c5tukfpu][quote="Renji Asuka":c5tukfpu]
Nah, the issue becomes "I never brought up the fact that they'd be Top Tier", which he chose to argue on, pointlessly might I add, while also not having any knowledge on how the deck operates.[/quote:c5tukfpu]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:c5tukfpu]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:c5tukfpu]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.

[quote="Sound4":214bbvjh][quote="Renji Asuka":214bbvjh][quote="Sound4":214bbvjh]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:214bbvjh]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:214bbvjh]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:214bbvjh]
Wow, it's almost like people aren't always trying to play the best decks of the format

[quote="Sound4":3ny71726][quote="Renji Asuka":3ny71726][quote="Sound4":3ny71726]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:3ny71726]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:3ny71726]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:3ny71726]
Are people not allowed to express opinions or play whatever they fucking want now Mr. Unchained?

[quote="Sound4":1jp5dre1][quote="Renji Asuka":1jp5dre1][quote="Sound4":1jp5dre1]
The reason why I brought that up is because if the support does not make it somewhere around rogue or tier 2 it is not viable. It is pretty simple you don't have much knowledge of this format. Brave decks are everywhere and this support won't do much especially since Dark world don't have really have any interactions with the meta.[/quote:1jp5dre1]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:1jp5dre1]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:1jp5dre1]
Imagine thinking people can only play "good decks" by your standards.

Then imagine thinking Unchained is good...

But no seriously, Cyberdarks suffer from a heavy choke point. That being Chimera. Which is fine. But its strength is the fact that Nibiru is dead against it. Also considering that it can set up a multi negate board with EASE (implying Chimera goes through), it CAN do things. It can also drop a monster that is unaffected by your opponent's cards, which is stupidly easy to do and it being at 5k ATK, it's not going to be easy to run it over by battle.

Will it beat META? Sometimes sure. Any deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile.

Do I play decks because they are only "good"? No.

Do I play decks that I just like? Yes.

If its good, its good, if it isn't, then it isn't.

So honestly, you need to stop with the whole "your deck is trash" crap. Especially when you play Unchained.

[quote="Renji Asuka":kal3m9c5][quote="Sound4":kal3m9c5][quote="Renji Asuka":kal3m9c5]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:kal3m9c5]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:kal3m9c5]
Imagine thinking people can only play "good decks" by your standards.

Then imagine thinking Unchained is good...

But no seriously, Cyberdarks suffer from a heavy choke point. That being Chimera. Which is fine. But its strength is the fact that Nibiru is dead against it. Also considering that it can set up a multi negate board with EASE (implying Chimera goes through), it CAN do things. It can also drop a monster that is unaffected by your opponent's cards, which is stupidly easy to do and it being at 5k ATK, it's not going to be easy to run it over by battle.

Will it beat META? Sometimes sure. Any deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile.

Do I play decks because they are only "good"? No.

Do I play decks that I just like? Yes.

If its good, its good, if it isn't, then it isn't.

So honestly, you need to stop with the whole "your deck is trash" crap. Especially when you play Unchained.[/quote:kal3m9c5]
You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention.

Unchained is a rogue deck and even better if played by a good pilot here us a replay of me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242

Cyberdarks aren't good this isn't debatable. The consistency is not good and it's end board doesn't put up much negates. The recovery is not that good either.

[quote="Lil Oldman":muui2b3k][quote="Sound4":muui2b3k][quote="Renji Asuka":muui2b3k]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:muui2b3k]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:muui2b3k]
Are people not allowed to express opinions or play whatever they fucking want now Mr. Unchained?[/quote:muui2b3k]
He is acting like this will put Dark world into top tier contention be realistic here. Plus Unchained is a rogue and even better if played by a good pilot. Here is a replayof me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242

[quote="Sound4":r1sumbnx][quote="Lil Oldman":r1sumbnx][quote="Sound4":r1sumbnx]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:r1sumbnx]
Are people not allowed to express opinions or play whatever they fucking want now Mr. Unchained?[/quote:r1sumbnx]
He is acting like this will put Dark world into top tier contention be realistic here. Plus Unchained is a rogue and even better if played by a good pilot. Here is a replayof me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242[/quote:r1sumbnx]
Honest question. Can you read? They never said it would be top tier. They said DW has been meta.
I dont care about a stupid replay of you beating some guy with prankids, I've beaten Eldlich with Krawlers, even a broken clock gives the time twice a day.

[quote="Sound4":3cjzqy95][quote="Renji Asuka":3cjzqy95][quote="Sound4":3cjzqy95]
Cyberdarks aren't good. Plus they weren't meta for long. Plus it doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have any interactions with the meta since Adventure token decks are everywhere. Blue eyes got support but are they good? No. You need to be realistic here.[/quote:3cjzqy95]
Imagine thinking people can only play "good decks" by your standards.

Then imagine thinking Unchained is good...

But no seriously, Cyberdarks suffer from a heavy choke point. That being Chimera. Which is fine. But its strength is the fact that Nibiru is dead against it. Also considering that it can set up a multi negate board with EASE (implying Chimera goes through), it CAN do things. It can also drop a monster that is unaffected by your opponent's cards, which is stupidly easy to do and it being at 5k ATK, it's not going to be easy to run it over by battle.

Will it beat META? Sometimes sure. Any deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile.

Do I play decks because they are only "good"? No.

Do I play decks that I just like? Yes.

If its good, its good, if it isn't, then it isn't.

So honestly, you need to stop with the whole "your deck is trash" crap. Especially when you play Unchained.[/quote:3cjzqy95]
You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention.

Unchained is a rogue deck and even better if played by a good pilot here us a replay of me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242

Cyberdarks aren't good this isn't debatable. The consistency is not good and it's end board doesn't put up much negates. The recovery is not that good either.[/quote:3cjzqy95]

1. No, I'm not acting like the support will make the deck top tier. That is idiotic of you to assume. Look at my original post. It only states that I'm excited for it. You however chose to try to bring up an irrelevant point about the deck "not going to be META". Despite history disagreeing with you.

2. Unchained isn't "rogue", it is still a worse deck than than quite a lot of other rogue decks.

3. Cyberdarks have INSANE consistency. Cyberdark Cannon can search out any Cyberdark Monster, Cyberdark Claw can search out any Cyberdark Spell or Trap, Cyberdark Chimera can search out Power Bond which is your big play maker, Cybernetic Horizon, which can not only fuel the Graveyard by placing 3 monsters into it, it can search out any Cyber Machine or Dragon monster. Then you have Cyberdark Realm, which can search out any Cyberdark monster.

Then you have your Cyber Dragon Engine, where you run 3 Cyber Dragon Core, which can search all your Cyberdark Spell or Traps. You have Nachster to recycle Cyberdark Chimera from the GY, oh speaking of Cyberdark Chimera, it can also fuel the Graveyard. Then you have Cyber Emergency, which can search out either Core or Nachster. This isn't even going into being able to play Allure of Darkness.

But hey, Cyberdarks don't have consistency according to you. It's almost like you didn't bother researching it before making a reply.

But that's not going into its multiple negate board with Cyberdarkness Dragon having roughly 8,000 ATK due to having Cyber End Dragon equipped then throw in Cyberdark Invasion, which can equip more, which can not only provide an interrupt, but can also give you a 2nd Negate. That isn't going into the OG Cyberdarks having something equipped with them for 3 negates. With all that said, Cyberdarks are actually close to being rogue tier. If they didn't have the hard choke point, they'd be rogue tier. But please, go on tell me you don't know how Cyberdarks work without saying.

4. You made another stupid assumption about me claiming that Cyberdarks are good. That never happened. So drop the "Stop acting like your decks are good!" Because that is just you not reading and choosing to be stupid.

So, you might want to refrain from posting, otherwise you're going to end up showing how much of a fool you really are.

PS: Your replay means nothing to me. Any non meta deck can beat a meta deck every once in awhile.

[quote="Sound4":fnl3sgca][quote="greg503":fnl3sgca][quote="Renji Asuka":fnl3sgca]
And you were wrong. Historically speaking, Dark Worlds were META and has popped into the META scene from time to time. And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?

Hell, I bought 3 Cyberstrike Structure Decks cause I liked Cyberdarks. Imperm had nothing to do with it, though it is nice as a bonus.

If I wanted to play a higher tier deck, I'd just build Drytron and skip my opponent's turn for a pseudo FTK.[/quote:fnl3sgca]
Drytron sucks outside of Master Duel, it's all about the Adventurer engine now[/quote:fnl3sgca]
It is on the high end if tier 2 and no it isn't bad. The Megalith is still broken bethor allows you to destroy multiple cards and even though Benten is at 1 it is easily searchable.[/quote:fnl3sgca]
Dude, i try the Megalith deck is not BROKEN, because are Rock Ritual Monsters, with Block Dragon banned, it remains a bummer. (It always has been with Block Dragon).

Also and I repeat to you, spare your bullshit and study, thanks.

[quote="DarwisBellium92":4hs73h5x][quote="Sound4":4hs73h5x][quote="greg503":4hs73h5x]
Drytron sucks outside of Master Duel, it's all about the Adventurer engine now[/quote:4hs73h5x]
It is on the high end if tier 2 and no it isn't bad. The Megalith is still broken bethor allows you to destroy multiple cards and even though Benten is at 1 it is easily searchable.[/quote:4hs73h5x]
Dude, i try the Megalith deck is not BROKEN, because are Rock Ritual Monsters, with Block Dragon banned, it remains a bummer. (It always has been with Block Dragon).

Also and I repeat to you, spare your bullshit and study, thanks.[/quote:4hs73h5x]
Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3f4up88z][quote="Sound4":3f4up88z][quote="Renji Asuka":3f4up88z]
Imagine thinking people can only play "good decks" by your standards.

Then imagine thinking Unchained is good...

But no seriously, Cyberdarks suffer from a heavy choke point. That being Chimera. Which is fine. But its strength is the fact that Nibiru is dead against it. Also considering that it can set up a multi negate board with EASE (implying Chimera goes through), it CAN do things. It can also drop a monster that is unaffected by your opponent's cards, which is stupidly easy to do and it being at 5k ATK, it's not going to be easy to run it over by battle.

Will it beat META? Sometimes sure. Any deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile.

Do I play decks because they are only "good"? No.

Do I play decks that I just like? Yes.

If its good, its good, if it isn't, then it isn't.

So honestly, you need to stop with the whole "your deck is trash" crap. Especially when you play Unchained.[/quote:3f4up88z]
You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention.

Unchained is a rogue deck and even better if played by a good pilot here us a replay of me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242

Cyberdarks aren't good this isn't debatable. The consistency is not good and it's end board doesn't put up much negates. The recovery is not that good either.[/quote:3f4up88z]

1. No, I'm not acting like the support will make the deck top tier. That is idiotic of you to assume. Look at my original post. It only states that I'm excited for it. You however chose to try to bring up an irrelevant point about the deck "not going to be META". Despite history disagreeing with you.

2. Unchained isn't "rogue", it is still a worse deck than than quite a lot of other rogue decks.

3. Cyberdarks have INSANE consistency. Cyberdark Cannon can search out any Cyberdark Monster, Cyberdark Claw can search out any Cyberdark Spell or Trap, Cyberdark Chimera can search out Power Bond which is your big play maker, Cybernetic Horizon, which can not only fuel the Graveyard by placing 3 monsters into it, it can search out any Cyber Machine or Dragon monster. Then you have Cyberdark Realm, which can search out any Cyberdark monster.

Then you have your Cyber Dragon Engine, where you run 3 Cyber Dragon Core, which can search all your Cyberdark Spell or Traps. You have Nachster to recycle Cyberdark Chimera from the GY, oh speaking of Cyberdark Chimera, it can also fuel the Graveyard. Then you have Cyber Emergency, which can search out either Core or Nachster. This isn't even going into being able to play Allure of Darkness.

But hey, Cyberdarks don't have consistency according to you. It's almost like you didn't bother researching it before making a reply.

But that's not going into its multiple negate board with Cyberdarkness Dragon having roughly 8,000 ATK due to having Cyber End Dragon equipped then throw in Cyberdark Invasion, which can equip more, which can not only provide an interrupt, but can also give you a 2nd Negate. That isn't going into the OG Cyberdarks having something equipped with them for 3 negates. With all that said, Cyberdarks are actually close to being rogue tier. If they didn't have the hard choke point, they'd be rogue tier. But please, go on tell me you don't know how Cyberdarks work without saying.

4. You made another stupid assumption about me claiming that Cyberdarks are good. That never happened. So drop the "Stop acting like your decks are good!" Because that is just you not reading and choosing to be stupid.

So, you might want to refrain from posting, otherwise you're going to end up showing how much of a fool you really are.

PS: Your replay means nothing to me. Any non meta deck can beat a meta deck every once in awhile.[/quote:3f4up88z]
Considering the way you are speaking then yes it seems like you are suggesting that this support will put Dark World into top tier contention.

Cyberdarks aren't good it is another reason why people don't play them with cyber dragons. The consistency is nothing special and yes I have done research on Cyberdarks. The Deck isn't good. Watch this video on this person playing cyberdark and why it isn't good
https://youtu.be/HI0PigDpRcI
I think this just shows that when a person brings up a good point since you have no argument you disregard it. The replay was to show that unchained can be really if played by a good pilot and can compete with some of the top decks.

[quote="Sound4":1hc07b3h][quote="Renji Asuka":1hc07b3h][quote="Sound4":1hc07b3h]
You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention.

Unchained is a rogue deck and even better if played by a good pilot here us a replay of me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242

Cyberdarks aren't good this isn't debatable. The consistency is not good and it's end board doesn't put up much negates. The recovery is not that good either.[/quote:1hc07b3h]

1. No, I'm not acting like the support will make the deck top tier. That is idiotic of you to assume. Look at my original post. It only states that I'm excited for it. You however chose to try to bring up an irrelevant point about the deck "not going to be META". Despite history disagreeing with you.

2. Unchained isn't "rogue", it is still a worse deck than than quite a lot of other rogue decks.

3. Cyberdarks have INSANE consistency. Cyberdark Cannon can search out any Cyberdark Monster, Cyberdark Claw can search out any Cyberdark Spell or Trap, Cyberdark Chimera can search out Power Bond which is your big play maker, Cybernetic Horizon, which can not only fuel the Graveyard by placing 3 monsters into it, it can search out any Cyber Machine or Dragon monster. Then you have Cyberdark Realm, which can search out any Cyberdark monster.

Then you have your Cyber Dragon Engine, where you run 3 Cyber Dragon Core, which can search all your Cyberdark Spell or Traps. You have Nachster to recycle Cyberdark Chimera from the GY, oh speaking of Cyberdark Chimera, it can also fuel the Graveyard. Then you have Cyber Emergency, which can search out either Core or Nachster. This isn't even going into being able to play Allure of Darkness.

But hey, Cyberdarks don't have consistency according to you. It's almost like you didn't bother researching it before making a reply.

But that's not going into its multiple negate board with Cyberdarkness Dragon having roughly 8,000 ATK due to having Cyber End Dragon equipped then throw in Cyberdark Invasion, which can equip more, which can not only provide an interrupt, but can also give you a 2nd Negate. That isn't going into the OG Cyberdarks having something equipped with them for 3 negates. With all that said, Cyberdarks are actually close to being rogue tier. If they didn't have the hard choke point, they'd be rogue tier. But please, go on tell me you don't know how Cyberdarks work without saying.

4. You made another stupid assumption about me claiming that Cyberdarks are good. That never happened. So drop the "Stop acting like your decks are good!" Because that is just you not reading and choosing to be stupid.

So, you might want to refrain from posting, otherwise you're going to end up showing how much of a fool you really are.

PS: Your replay means nothing to me. Any non meta deck can beat a meta deck every once in awhile.[/quote:1hc07b3h]
Considering the way you are speaking then yes it seems like you are suggesting that this support will put Dark World into top tier contention.

Cyberdarks aren't good it is another reason why people don't play them with cyber dragons. The consistency is nothing special and yes I have done research on Cyberdarks. The Deck isn't good. Watch this video on this person playing cyberdark and why it isn't good
https://youtu.be/HI0PigDpRcI
I think this just shows that when a person brings up a good point since you have no argument you disregard it. The replay was to show that unchained can be really if played by a good pilot and can compete with some of the top decks.[/quote:1hc07b3h]
Sound4: Good Unchained pilot, you heard it here first folks

[quote="Sound4":36myguh8]Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.[/quote:36myguh8]
Ah yes, I forgot, 2 Herald negates is unbeatable

[quote="greg503":1mc02r1r][quote="Sound4":1mc02r1r]Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.[/quote:1mc02r1r]
Ah yes, I forgot, 2 Herald negates is unbeatable[/quote:1mc02r1r]
They can end on DPE as well and you can play scythe in the Deck. Watch this video on how good Drytron players that bring the Deck to the best of their ability.
https://youtu.be/GW4olNalRdM

[quote="greg503":2v6h6xtf][quote="Sound4":2v6h6xtf][quote="Renji Asuka":2v6h6xtf]

1. No, I'm not acting like the support will make the deck top tier. That is idiotic of you to assume. Look at my original post. It only states that I'm excited for it. You however chose to try to bring up an irrelevant point about the deck "not going to be META". Despite history disagreeing with you.

2. Unchained isn't "rogue", it is still a worse deck than than quite a lot of other rogue decks.

3. Cyberdarks have INSANE consistency. Cyberdark Cannon can search out any Cyberdark Monster, Cyberdark Claw can search out any Cyberdark Spell or Trap, Cyberdark Chimera can search out Power Bond which is your big play maker, Cybernetic Horizon, which can not only fuel the Graveyard by placing 3 monsters into it, it can search out any Cyber Machine or Dragon monster. Then you have Cyberdark Realm, which can search out any Cyberdark monster.

Then you have your Cyber Dragon Engine, where you run 3 Cyber Dragon Core, which can search all your Cyberdark Spell or Traps. You have Nachster to recycle Cyberdark Chimera from the GY, oh speaking of Cyberdark Chimera, it can also fuel the Graveyard. Then you have Cyber Emergency, which can search out either Core or Nachster. This isn't even going into being able to play Allure of Darkness.

But hey, Cyberdarks don't have consistency according to you. It's almost like you didn't bother researching it before making a reply.

But that's not going into its multiple negate board with Cyberdarkness Dragon having roughly 8,000 ATK due to having Cyber End Dragon equipped then throw in Cyberdark Invasion, which can equip more, which can not only provide an interrupt, but can also give you a 2nd Negate. That isn't going into the OG Cyberdarks having something equipped with them for 3 negates. With all that said, Cyberdarks are actually close to being rogue tier. If they didn't have the hard choke point, they'd be rogue tier. But please, go on tell me you don't know how Cyberdarks work without saying.

4. You made another stupid assumption about me claiming that Cyberdarks are good. That never happened. So drop the "Stop acting like your decks are good!" Because that is just you not reading and choosing to be stupid.

So, you might want to refrain from posting, otherwise you're going to end up showing how much of a fool you really are.

PS: Your replay means nothing to me. Any non meta deck can beat a meta deck every once in awhile.[/quote:2v6h6xtf]
Considering the way you are speaking then yes it seems like you are suggesting that this support will put Dark World into top tier contention.

Cyberdarks aren't good it is another reason why people don't play them with cyber dragons. The consistency is nothing special and yes I have done research on Cyberdarks. The Deck isn't good. Watch this video on this person playing cyberdark and why it isn't good
https://youtu.be/HI0PigDpRcI
I think this just shows that when a person brings up a good point since you have no argument you disregard it. The replay was to show that unchained can be really if played by a good pilot and can compete with some of the top decks.[/quote:2v6h6xtf]
Sound4: Good Unchained pilot, you heard it here first folks[/quote:2v6h6xtf]
What are you suggesting?

Bruh what do you think?

[quote="Sound4":28w56n7z][quote="DarwisBellium92":28w56n7z][quote="Sound4":28w56n7z]
It is on the high end if tier 2 and no it isn't bad. The Megalith is still broken bethor allows you to destroy multiple cards and even though Benten is at 1 it is easily searchable.[/quote:28w56n7z]
Dude, i try the Megalith deck is not BROKEN, because are Rock Ritual Monsters, with Block Dragon banned, it remains a bummer. (It always has been with Block Dragon).

Also and I repeat to you, spare your bullshit and study, thanks.[/quote:28w56n7z]
Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.[/quote:28w56n7z]
You a good player? Hahahaha!! You are ridicoulus
The last time lesson of your useless controversy on judges is not enough for you. But get it over with, you are ridiculous and you don't know how to play that deck, you are incapable.

[quote="Sound4":1v8h75ia][quote="Renji Asuka":1v8h75ia][quote="Sound4":1v8h75ia]
You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention.

Unchained is a rogue deck and even better if played by a good pilot here us a replay of me beating a Prank Kid player with over 1000 rating.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-37997242

Cyberdarks aren't good this isn't debatable. The consistency is not good and it's end board doesn't put up much negates. The recovery is not that good either.[/quote:1v8h75ia]

1. No, I'm not acting like the support will make the deck top tier. That is idiotic of you to assume. Look at my original post. It only states that I'm excited for it. You however chose to try to bring up an irrelevant point about the deck "not going to be META". Despite history disagreeing with you.

2. Unchained isn't "rogue", it is still a worse deck than than quite a lot of other rogue decks.

3. Cyberdarks have INSANE consistency. Cyberdark Cannon can search out any Cyberdark Monster, Cyberdark Claw can search out any Cyberdark Spell or Trap, Cyberdark Chimera can search out Power Bond which is your big play maker, Cybernetic Horizon, which can not only fuel the Graveyard by placing 3 monsters into it, it can search out any Cyber Machine or Dragon monster. Then you have Cyberdark Realm, which can search out any Cyberdark monster.

Then you have your Cyber Dragon Engine, where you run 3 Cyber Dragon Core, which can search all your Cyberdark Spell or Traps. You have Nachster to recycle Cyberdark Chimera from the GY, oh speaking of Cyberdark Chimera, it can also fuel the Graveyard. Then you have Cyber Emergency, which can search out either Core or Nachster. This isn't even going into being able to play Allure of Darkness.

But hey, Cyberdarks don't have consistency according to you. It's almost like you didn't bother researching it before making a reply.

But that's not going into its multiple negate board with Cyberdarkness Dragon having roughly 8,000 ATK due to having Cyber End Dragon equipped then throw in Cyberdark Invasion, which can equip more, which can not only provide an interrupt, but can also give you a 2nd Negate. That isn't going into the OG Cyberdarks having something equipped with them for 3 negates. With all that said, Cyberdarks are actually close to being rogue tier. If they didn't have the hard choke point, they'd be rogue tier. But please, go on tell me you don't know how Cyberdarks work without saying.

4. You made another stupid assumption about me claiming that Cyberdarks are good. That never happened. So drop the "Stop acting like your decks are good!" Because that is just you not reading and choosing to be stupid.

So, you might want to refrain from posting, otherwise you're going to end up showing how much of a fool you really are.

PS: Your replay means nothing to me. Any non meta deck can beat a meta deck every once in awhile.[/quote:1v8h75ia]
Considering the way you are speaking then yes it seems like you are suggesting that this support will put Dark World into top tier contention.

Cyberdarks aren't good it is another reason why people don't play them with cyber dragons. The consistency is nothing special and yes I have done research on Cyberdarks. The Deck isn't good. Watch this video on this person playing cyberdark and why it isn't good
https://youtu.be/HI0PigDpRcI
I think this just shows that when a person brings up a good point since you have no argument you disregard it. The replay was to show that unchained can be really if played by a good pilot and can compete with some of the top decks.[/quote:1v8h75ia]

No, that is your assumption, you're not only making a fool out of yourself, but you're also making an ass out of yourself. The worst part is, despite being told how you're wrong and why you're wrong on these things, you still choose to double down.

Where in my original post that says anything remotely close to them being Top Tier? Oh, right. It doesn't.

Again, you're acting as if I stated "Cyberdarks were good" when that wasn't the case. Point me where I stated this. Oh right, you can't.

Also your replay means nothing to me as Unchained is still a bad deck.

What you're really doing is wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. With that kind of mentality, you are quite wrong.

This isn't even going into the fact that people DO in fact run a cyberdark engine in Cyber Dragons so they can search out Power Bond for their own stuff. It isn't a "big" engine, but it still utilized in modern Cyber Dragon decks.

But please keep showing me how you don't know what you're talking about.

Also if you HAD done research on Cyberdarks, you wouldn't had stated that they weren't consistent. In which I proved you wrong. You then proceed to move the goal post stating "it's consistency is nothing special."

Also if you're a "good pilot" for Unchained, then I'd be a damn good pilot for both Cyberdarks and Dark Worlds.

[quote="Renji Asuka":22esczel][quote="Sound4":22esczel][quote="Renji Asuka":22esczel]

1. No, I'm not acting like the support will make the deck top tier. That is idiotic of you to assume. Look at my original post. It only states that I'm excited for it. You however chose to try to bring up an irrelevant point about the deck "not going to be META". Despite history disagreeing with you.

2. Unchained isn't "rogue", it is still a worse deck than than quite a lot of other rogue decks.

3. Cyberdarks have INSANE consistency. Cyberdark Cannon can search out any Cyberdark Monster, Cyberdark Claw can search out any Cyberdark Spell or Trap, Cyberdark Chimera can search out Power Bond which is your big play maker, Cybernetic Horizon, which can not only fuel the Graveyard by placing 3 monsters into it, it can search out any Cyber Machine or Dragon monster. Then you have Cyberdark Realm, which can search out any Cyberdark monster.

Then you have your Cyber Dragon Engine, where you run 3 Cyber Dragon Core, which can search all your Cyberdark Spell or Traps. You have Nachster to recycle Cyberdark Chimera from the GY, oh speaking of Cyberdark Chimera, it can also fuel the Graveyard. Then you have Cyber Emergency, which can search out either Core or Nachster. This isn't even going into being able to play Allure of Darkness.

But hey, Cyberdarks don't have consistency according to you. It's almost like you didn't bother researching it before making a reply.

But that's not going into its multiple negate board with Cyberdarkness Dragon having roughly 8,000 ATK due to having Cyber End Dragon equipped then throw in Cyberdark Invasion, which can equip more, which can not only provide an interrupt, but can also give you a 2nd Negate. That isn't going into the OG Cyberdarks having something equipped with them for 3 negates. With all that said, Cyberdarks are actually close to being rogue tier. If they didn't have the hard choke point, they'd be rogue tier. But please, go on tell me you don't know how Cyberdarks work without saying.

4. You made another stupid assumption about me claiming that Cyberdarks are good. That never happened. So drop the "Stop acting like your decks are good!" Because that is just you not reading and choosing to be stupid.

So, you might want to refrain from posting, otherwise you're going to end up showing how much of a fool you really are.

PS: Your replay means nothing to me. Any non meta deck can beat a meta deck every once in awhile.[/quote:22esczel]
Considering the way you are speaking then yes it seems like you are suggesting that this support will put Dark World into top tier contention.

Cyberdarks aren't good it is another reason why people don't play them with cyber dragons. The consistency is nothing special and yes I have done research on Cyberdarks. The Deck isn't good. Watch this video on this person playing cyberdark and why it isn't good
https://youtu.be/HI0PigDpRcI
I think this just shows that when a person brings up a good point since you have no argument you disregard it. The replay was to show that unchained can be really if played by a good pilot and can compete with some of the top decks.[/quote:22esczel]

No, that is your assumption, you're not only making a fool out of yourself, but you're also making an ass out of yourself. The worst part is, despite being told how you're wrong and why you're wrong on these things, you still choose to double down.

Where in my original post that says anything remotely close to them being Top Tier? Oh, right. It doesn't.

Again, you're acting as if I stated "Cyberdarks were good" when that wasn't the case. Point me where I stated this. Oh right, you can't.

Also your replay means nothing to me as Unchained is still a bad deck.

What you're really doing is wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. With that kind of mentality, you are quite wrong.

This isn't even going into the fact that people DO in fact run a cyberdark engine in Cyber Dragons so they can search out Power Bond for their own stuff. It isn't a "big" engine, but it still utilized in modern Cyber Dragon decks.

But please keep showing me how you don't know what you're talking about.

Also if you HAD done research on Cyberdarks, you wouldn't had stated that they weren't consistent. In which I proved you wrong. You then proceed to move the goal post stating "it's consistency is nothing special."

Also if you're a "good pilot" for Unchained, then I'd be a damn good pilot for both Cyberdarks and Dark Worlds.[/quote:22esczel]
When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention? I said you were acting like it especially when you were saying that Dark world was meta few times and it could happen again.

Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said.

Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad".

[quote="DarwisBellium92":1le8sked][quote="Sound4":1le8sked][quote="DarwisBellium92":1le8sked]
Dude, i try the Megalith deck is not BROKEN, because are Rock Ritual Monsters, with Block Dragon banned, it remains a bummer. (It always has been with Block Dragon).

Also and I repeat to you, spare your bullshit and study, thanks.[/quote:1le8sked]
Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.[/quote:1le8sked]
You a good player? Hahahaha!! You are ridicoulus
The last time lesson of your useless controversy on judges is not enough for you. But get it over with, you are ridiculous and you don't know how to play that deck, you are incapable.[/quote:1le8sked]
When did I say I play drytron? Plus I provided a video on how good Drytron players know how to play the Deck correctly and bring it to the best of their ability.

[quote="Sound4":1ttacr8v][quote="DarwisBellium92":1ttacr8v][quote="Sound4":1ttacr8v]
Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.[/quote:1ttacr8v]
You a good player? Hahahaha!! You are ridicoulus
The last time lesson of your useless controversy on judges is not enough for you. But get it over with, you are ridiculous and you don't know how to play that deck, you are incapable.[/quote:1ttacr8v]
When did I say I play drytron? Plus I provided a video on how good Drytron players know how to play the Deck correctly and bring it to the best of their ability.[/quote:1ttacr8v]
Which is Scythe DPE... that other decks do better. But please, tell us how you're qualified to tell us what good decks are

[quote="Sound4":19xx2stv][quote="DarwisBellium92":19xx2stv][quote="Sound4":19xx2stv]
Good Drytron players know how to bring them to the best of their ability.[/quote:19xx2stv]
You a good player? Hahahaha!! You are ridicoulus
The last time lesson of your useless controversy on judges is not enough for you. But get it over with, you are ridiculous and you don't know how to play that deck, you are incapable.[/quote:19xx2stv]
When did I say I play drytron? Plus I provided a video on how good Drytron players know how to play the Deck correctly and bring it to the best of their ability.[/quote:19xx2stv]
You? hahaha you make me laugh!
I repeat and this last time I will say: are you wasting time in vain and do you think you are a good player? You were wrong honey, but a lot.


Guys, do one thing: avoid Sound4, he's a real retard and it's not worth bothering with.

[quote="Sound4":1ouryga9][quote="Renji Asuka":1ouryga9][quote="Sound4":1ouryga9]
Considering the way you are speaking then yes it seems like you are suggesting that this support will put Dark World into top tier contention.

Cyberdarks aren't good it is another reason why people don't play them with cyber dragons. The consistency is nothing special and yes I have done research on Cyberdarks. The Deck isn't good. Watch this video on this person playing cyberdark and why it isn't good
https://youtu.be/HI0PigDpRcI
I think this just shows that when a person brings up a good point since you have no argument you disregard it. The replay was to show that unchained can be really if played by a good pilot and can compete with some of the top decks.[/quote:1ouryga9]

No, that is your assumption, you're not only making a fool out of yourself, but you're also making an ass out of yourself. The worst part is, despite being told how you're wrong and why you're wrong on these things, you still choose to double down.

Where in my original post that says anything remotely close to them being Top Tier? Oh, right. It doesn't.

Again, you're acting as if I stated "Cyberdarks were good" when that wasn't the case. Point me where I stated this. Oh right, you can't.

Also your replay means nothing to me as Unchained is still a bad deck.

What you're really doing is wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. With that kind of mentality, you are quite wrong.

This isn't even going into the fact that people DO in fact run a cyberdark engine in Cyber Dragons so they can search out Power Bond for their own stuff. It isn't a "big" engine, but it still utilized in modern Cyber Dragon decks.

But please keep showing me how you don't know what you're talking about.

Also if you HAD done research on Cyberdarks, you wouldn't had stated that they weren't consistent. In which I proved you wrong. You then proceed to move the goal post stating "it's consistency is nothing special."

Also if you're a "good pilot" for Unchained, then I'd be a damn good pilot for both Cyberdarks and Dark Worlds.[/quote:1ouryga9]
When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention? I said you were acting like it especially when you were saying that Dark world was meta few times and it could happen again.

Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said.

Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad".[/quote:1ouryga9]

"When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention?"

You're literally the one who brought it up through your imaginary bullshit. So no, that argument doesn't work with you. You had also brought it up BEFORE I talked about how Dark Worlds were META in past formats.

"Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said."

I don't give a shit about your video it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

"Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad"."

It's still a bad deck. It can't even make a good Turn 1 board. It can't set up a multi negate board, it can't set up an untouchable boss monster. It doesn't even have a card like Red Reign, or can't utilize cards like Scrap-Iron Signal.

All Unchained has is using opponent's monsters as material on their turn. Nothing else.

Also the idea that you beat a prank kid player with over 1000 rating is laughable because as I said before. Every deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile. Just because you won 1 time, doesn't mean you'll do it most of the time.

mf got locked out of his argument dump and had to go raid other people's thread lmao

[quote="Renji Asuka":x3evdcpz][quote="Sound4":x3evdcpz][quote="Renji Asuka":x3evdcpz]

No, that is your assumption, you're not only making a fool out of yourself, but you're also making an ass out of yourself. The worst part is, despite being told how you're wrong and why you're wrong on these things, you still choose to double down.

Where in my original post that says anything remotely close to them being Top Tier? Oh, right. It doesn't.

Again, you're acting as if I stated "Cyberdarks were good" when that wasn't the case. Point me where I stated this. Oh right, you can't.

Also your replay means nothing to me as Unchained is still a bad deck.

What you're really doing is wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. With that kind of mentality, you are quite wrong.

This isn't even going into the fact that people DO in fact run a cyberdark engine in Cyber Dragons so they can search out Power Bond for their own stuff. It isn't a "big" engine, but it still utilized in modern Cyber Dragon decks.

But please keep showing me how you don't know what you're talking about.

Also if you HAD done research on Cyberdarks, you wouldn't had stated that they weren't consistent. In which I proved you wrong. You then proceed to move the goal post stating "it's consistency is nothing special."

Also if you're a "good pilot" for Unchained, then I'd be a damn good pilot for both Cyberdarks and Dark Worlds.[/quote:x3evdcpz]
When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention? I said you were acting like it especially when you were saying that Dark world was meta few times and it could happen again.

Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said.

Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad".[/quote:x3evdcpz]

"When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention?"

You're literally the one who brought it up through your imaginary bullshit. So no, that argument doesn't work with you. You had also brought it up BEFORE I talked about how Dark Worlds were META in past formats.

"Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said."

I don't give a shit about your video it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

"Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad"."

It's still a bad deck. It can't even make a good Turn 1 board. It can't set up a multi negate board, it can't set up an untouchable boss monster. It doesn't even have a card like Red Reign, or can't utilize cards like Scrap-Iron Signal.

All Unchained has is using opponent's monsters as material on their turn. Nothing else.

Also the idea that you beat a prank kid player with over 1000 rating is laughable because as I said before. Every deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile. Just because you won 1 time, doesn't mean you'll do it most of the time.[/quote:x3evdcpz]

I agree

[quote="Lil Oldman":vohtk10r]mf got locked out of his argument dump and had to go raid other people's thread lmao[/quote:vohtk10r]
Seems about right lol

[quote="Renji Asuka":174zq7uf][quote="Sound4":174zq7uf][quote="Renji Asuka":174zq7uf]

No, that is your assumption, you're not only making a fool out of yourself, but you're also making an ass out of yourself. The worst part is, despite being told how you're wrong and why you're wrong on these things, you still choose to double down.

Where in my original post that says anything remotely close to them being Top Tier? Oh, right. It doesn't.

Again, you're acting as if I stated "Cyberdarks were good" when that wasn't the case. Point me where I stated this. Oh right, you can't.

Also your replay means nothing to me as Unchained is still a bad deck.

What you're really doing is wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. With that kind of mentality, you are quite wrong.

This isn't even going into the fact that people DO in fact run a cyberdark engine in Cyber Dragons so they can search out Power Bond for their own stuff. It isn't a "big" engine, but it still utilized in modern Cyber Dragon decks.

But please keep showing me how you don't know what you're talking about.

Also if you HAD done research on Cyberdarks, you wouldn't had stated that they weren't consistent. In which I proved you wrong. You then proceed to move the goal post stating "it's consistency is nothing special."

Also if you're a "good pilot" for Unchained, then I'd be a damn good pilot for both Cyberdarks and Dark Worlds.[/quote:174zq7uf]
When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention? I said you were acting like it especially when you were saying that Dark world was meta few times and it could happen again.

Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said.

Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad".[/quote:174zq7uf]

"When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention?"

You're literally the one who brought it up through your imaginary bullshit. So no, that argument doesn't work with you. You had also brought it up BEFORE I talked about how Dark Worlds were META in past formats.

"Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said."

I don't give a shit about your video it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

"Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad"."

It's still a bad deck. It can't even make a good Turn 1 board. It can't set up a multi negate board, it can't set up an untouchable boss monster. It doesn't even have a card like Red Reign, or can't utilize cards like Scrap-Iron Signal.

All Unchained has is using opponent's monsters as material on their turn. Nothing else.

Also the idea that you beat a prank kid player with over 1000 rating is laughable because as I said before. Every deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile. Just because you won 1 time, doesn't mean you'll do it most of the time.[/quote:174zq7uf]
There was no imaginary stuff being said by me. I simply said that you shouldn't get your hopes up as this new support probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention for multiple reasons.

I brought up the video as you agreed that Drytron wasn't good when you replied to greg503.

Ending on link 2 with some backrow is actually not that bad. Think about it shark xyz only ended on a few rank 4s but still really good. You clearly don't understand the Deck. The Deck is a control deck not a combo deck.

Watch the replay it shows how good unchained can be if played by a good pilot.

[quote="DarwisBellium92":1ydqazvy][quote="Sound4":1ydqazvy][quote="DarwisBellium92":1ydqazvy]
You a good player? Hahahaha!! You are ridicoulus
The last time lesson of your useless controversy on judges is not enough for you. But get it over with, you are ridiculous and you don't know how to play that deck, you are incapable.[/quote:1ydqazvy]
When did I say I play drytron? Plus I provided a video on how good Drytron players know how to play the Deck correctly and bring it to the best of their ability.[/quote:1ydqazvy]
You? hahaha you make me laugh!
I repeat and this last time I will say: are you wasting time in vain and do you think you are a good player? You were wrong honey, but a lot.


Guys, do one thing: avoid Sound4, he's a real retard and it's not worth bothering with. [/quote:1ydqazvy]
This does not answer my reply.

[quote="Sound4":2tqbweby][quote="Renji Asuka":2tqbweby][quote="Sound4":2tqbweby]
When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention? I said you were acting like it especially when you were saying that Dark world was meta few times and it could happen again.

Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said.

Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad".[/quote:2tqbweby]

"When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention?"

You're literally the one who brought it up through your imaginary bullshit. So no, that argument doesn't work with you. You had also brought it up BEFORE I talked about how Dark Worlds were META in past formats.

"Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said."

I don't give a shit about your video it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

"Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad"."

It's still a bad deck. It can't even make a good Turn 1 board. It can't set up a multi negate board, it can't set up an untouchable boss monster. It doesn't even have a card like Red Reign, or can't utilize cards like Scrap-Iron Signal.

All Unchained has is using opponent's monsters as material on their turn. Nothing else.

Also the idea that you beat a prank kid player with over 1000 rating is laughable because as I said before. Every deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile. Just because you won 1 time, doesn't mean you'll do it most of the time.[/quote:2tqbweby]
There was no imaginary stuff being said by me. I simply said that you shouldn't get your hopes up as this new support probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention for multiple reasons.

I brought up the video as you agreed that Drytron wasn't good when you replied to greg503.

Ending on link 2 with some backrow is actually not that bad. Think about it shark xyz only ended on a few rank 4s but still really good. You clearly don't understand the Deck. The Deck is a control deck not a combo deck.

Watch the replay it shows how good unchained can be if played by a good pilot.[/quote:2tqbweby]
And who said they would/wouldnt become top tier?

[quote="Sound4":27v7q5yv][quote="DarwisBellium92":27v7q5yv][quote="Sound4":27v7q5yv]
When did I say I play drytron? Plus I provided a video on how good Drytron players know how to play the Deck correctly and bring it to the best of their ability.[/quote:27v7q5yv]
You? hahaha you make me laugh!
I repeat and this last time I will say: are you wasting time in vain and do you think you are a good player? You were wrong honey, but a lot.


Guys, do one thing: avoid Sound4, he's a real retard and it's not worth bothering with. [/quote:27v7q5yv]
This does not answer my reply.[/quote:27v7q5yv]
Learn to play instead of rather answer.
See ya, retard~

[quote="Sound4":1blo1vtc][quote="Renji Asuka":1blo1vtc][quote="Sound4":1blo1vtc]
When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention? I said you were acting like it especially when you were saying that Dark world was meta few times and it could happen again.

Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said.

Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad".[/quote:1blo1vtc]

"When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention?"

You're literally the one who brought it up through your imaginary bullshit. So no, that argument doesn't work with you. You had also brought it up BEFORE I talked about how Dark Worlds were META in past formats.

"Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said."

I don't give a shit about your video it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

"Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad"."

It's still a bad deck. It can't even make a good Turn 1 board. It can't set up a multi negate board, it can't set up an untouchable boss monster. It doesn't even have a card like Red Reign, or can't utilize cards like Scrap-Iron Signal.

All Unchained has is using opponent's monsters as material on their turn. Nothing else.

Also the idea that you beat a prank kid player with over 1000 rating is laughable because as I said before. Every deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile. Just because you won 1 time, doesn't mean you'll do it most of the time.[/quote:1blo1vtc]
There was no imaginary stuff being said by me. I simply said that you shouldn't get your hopes up as this new support probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention for multiple reasons.

I brought up the video as you agreed that Drytron wasn't good when you replied to greg503.

Ending on link 2 with some backrow is actually not that bad. Think about it shark xyz only ended on a few rank 4s but still really good. You clearly don't understand the Deck. The Deck is a control deck not a combo deck.

Watch the replay it shows how good unchained can be if played by a good pilot.[/quote:1blo1vtc]
YOU made assumptions, so yes, it is imaginary bullshit and why should I care about having the deck be top tier? I been playing Dark Worlds SINCE Elemental Energy. It's a long time staple deck for me so any support for it makes me excited. End of story.

And your video is meaningless to me.

Also ending on a link 2 with some backrow is still bad. If you're not not stopping your opponent's plays, you're not doing anything.

If you would lose because of any board wipe, your field is bad. End of story. If Unchained were good, we'd see them in events. But we don't. At most it's a locals level deck. Which tells us that the deck can't even be considered rogue tier.

You also claim to be a good pilot, but with your track record, it's unlikely. As you can't even read what is being told to you while also lacking critical thinking skills.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1opq0xka][quote="Sound4":1opq0xka][quote="Renji Asuka":1opq0xka]

"When did I say that you were saying this support would put Dark world into top tier contention?"

You're literally the one who brought it up through your imaginary bullshit. So no, that argument doesn't work with you. You had also brought it up BEFORE I talked about how Dark Worlds were META in past formats.

"Watch the video since you obviously didn't as your reply doesn't reply to everything I said."

I don't give a shit about your video it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

"Unchained is a rogue deck bad decks are decks like blue eyes not unchained. A good unchained pilot will able to make this deck very good (which is why I was able to beat that prank kid player with over 1000 rating). Plus explain why you think Unchained is "bad"."

It's still a bad deck. It can't even make a good Turn 1 board. It can't set up a multi negate board, it can't set up an untouchable boss monster. It doesn't even have a card like Red Reign, or can't utilize cards like Scrap-Iron Signal.

All Unchained has is using opponent's monsters as material on their turn. Nothing else.

Also the idea that you beat a prank kid player with over 1000 rating is laughable because as I said before. Every deck can beat a META deck every once in awhile. Just because you won 1 time, doesn't mean you'll do it most of the time.[/quote:1opq0xka]
There was no imaginary stuff being said by me. I simply said that you shouldn't get your hopes up as this new support probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention for multiple reasons.

I brought up the video as you agreed that Drytron wasn't good when you replied to greg503.

Ending on link 2 with some backrow is actually not that bad. Think about it shark xyz only ended on a few rank 4s but still really good. You clearly don't understand the Deck. The Deck is a control deck not a combo deck.

Watch the replay it shows how good unchained can be if played by a good pilot.[/quote:1opq0xka]
YOU made assumptions, so yes, it is imaginary bullshit and why should I care about having the deck be top tier? I been playing Dark Worlds SINCE Elemental Energy. It's a long time staple deck for me so any support for it makes me excited. End of story.

And your video is meaningless to me.

Also ending on a link 2 with some backrow is still bad. If you're not not stopping your opponent's plays, you're not doing anything.

If you would lose because of any board wipe, your field is bad. End of story. If Unchained were good, we'd see them in events. But we don't. At most it's a locals level deck. Which tells us that the deck can't even be considered rogue tier.

You also claim to be a good pilot, but with your track record, it's unlikely. As you can't even read what is being told to you while also lacking critical thinking skills.[/quote:1opq0xka]
I said that you should not get your hopes up since this probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention. There is no reason to play this deck at the moment.

You clearly have not understood anything on how Unchained works and my reply. The backrow is disruption and again Unchained is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus the link 2 Unchained rage allows you to link with another monster on the opponent's side. Since a pit if people start with the rite of aramesir to summon a token and get fateful to their side of the field. You can you Unchained rage to link with itself and the token making the whole Adventure Token package at that point useless as the token us very important. Since wandering gryphon can't negate without an adventure token.

Your last paragraph makes no sense. The replay actually shows a lot on how if played by a good pilot unchained can be really good. Here is a replay with me destroying swordsoul woth unchained 2-0. Swordsoul another top deck currently.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-38251953

[quote="Sound4":2rqlwzun][quote="Renji Asuka":2rqlwzun][quote="Sound4":2rqlwzun]
There was no imaginary stuff being said by me. I simply said that you shouldn't get your hopes up as this new support probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention for multiple reasons.

I brought up the video as you agreed that Drytron wasn't good when you replied to greg503.

Ending on link 2 with some backrow is actually not that bad. Think about it shark xyz only ended on a few rank 4s but still really good. You clearly don't understand the Deck. The Deck is a control deck not a combo deck.

Watch the replay it shows how good unchained can be if played by a good pilot.[/quote:2rqlwzun]
YOU made assumptions, so yes, it is imaginary bullshit and why should I care about having the deck be top tier? I been playing Dark Worlds SINCE Elemental Energy. It's a long time staple deck for me so any support for it makes me excited. End of story.

And your video is meaningless to me.

Also ending on a link 2 with some backrow is still bad. If you're not not stopping your opponent's plays, you're not doing anything.

If you would lose because of any board wipe, your field is bad. End of story. If Unchained were good, we'd see them in events. But we don't. At most it's a locals level deck. Which tells us that the deck can't even be considered rogue tier.

You also claim to be a good pilot, but with your track record, it's unlikely. As you can't even read what is being told to you while also lacking critical thinking skills.[/quote:2rqlwzun]
I said that you should not get your hopes up since this probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention. There is no reason to play this deck at the moment.

You clearly have not understood anything on how Unchained works and my reply. The backrow is disruption and again Unchained is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus the link 2 Unchained rage allows you to link with another monster on the opponent's side. Since a pit if people start with the rite of aramesir to summon a token and get fateful to their side of the field. You can you Unchained rage to link with itself and the token making the whole Adventure Token package at that point useless as the token us very important. Since wandering gryphon can't negate without an adventure token.

Your last paragraph makes no sense. The replay actually shows a lot on how if played by a good pilot unchained can be really good. Here is a replay with me destroying swordsoul woth unchained 2-0. Swordsoul another top deck currently.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-38251953[/quote:2rqlwzun]
Why shouldnt they be hyped for support of an archetype they like? If Unchained support was announced, you would probably be hyped too.
And oh no, you got baited into using your only disruption into a 1 card combo! What do you think the purpose of playing adventurer before everything? Its to bait out negates and disruptions.
And again, even a broken clock gives the correct time twice a day.

[quote="Sound4":3bklvtdv][quote="Renji Asuka":3bklvtdv][quote="Sound4":3bklvtdv]
There was no imaginary stuff being said by me. I simply said that you shouldn't get your hopes up as this new support probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention for multiple reasons.

I brought up the video as you agreed that Drytron wasn't good when you replied to greg503.

Ending on link 2 with some backrow is actually not that bad. Think about it shark xyz only ended on a few rank 4s but still really good. You clearly don't understand the Deck. The Deck is a control deck not a combo deck.

Watch the replay it shows how good unchained can be if played by a good pilot.[/quote:3bklvtdv]
YOU made assumptions, so yes, it is imaginary bullshit and why should I care about having the deck be top tier? I been playing Dark Worlds SINCE Elemental Energy. It's a long time staple deck for me so any support for it makes me excited. End of story.

And your video is meaningless to me.

Also ending on a link 2 with some backrow is still bad. If you're not not stopping your opponent's plays, you're not doing anything.

If you would lose because of any board wipe, your field is bad. End of story. If Unchained were good, we'd see them in events. But we don't. At most it's a locals level deck. Which tells us that the deck can't even be considered rogue tier.

You also claim to be a good pilot, but with your track record, it's unlikely. As you can't even read what is being told to you while also lacking critical thinking skills.[/quote:3bklvtdv]
I said that you should not get your hopes up since this probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention. There is no reason to play this deck at the moment.

You clearly have not understood anything on how Unchained works and my reply. The backrow is disruption and again Unchained is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus the link 2 Unchained rage allows you to link with another monster on the opponent's side. Since a pit if people start with the rite of aramesir to summon a token and get fateful to their side of the field. You can you Unchained rage to link with itself and the token making the whole Adventure Token package at that point useless as the token us very important. Since wandering gryphon can't negate without an adventure token.

Your last paragraph makes no sense. The replay actually shows a lot on how if played by a good pilot unchained can be really good. Here is a replay with me destroying swordsoul woth unchained 2-0. Swordsoul another top deck currently.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-38251953[/quote:3bklvtdv]
No, you moved the goal post. You made the claim that "I was acting as if Dark Worlds would be top tier" when you're the one who brought up competitive viability. . That is VERY different than what you're attempting to claim. Now stfu and sit the fuck down and think before you even respond so you can at least BE consistent.

You then claim I don't know how unchained works, then proceed to repeat what I already said about their links? Are you just responding while not reading what is being told to you or are you just stupid?

You then proceed to claim that my last paragraph doesn't make sense, yet you choose to ignore how you constantly tried to cheat in ranked Ingeneiro so you can win. You end up stalling or even LYING to the opponent when you would lose. That tells me enough about your skills as a player.

Also if Unchained was rogue, we'd see them in regionals AT LEAST. But wait, we don't...so it isn't a "rogue" deck.

There are regionals in 2022?

[quote="greg503":26eud8vb]There are regionals in 2022?[/quote:26eud8vb]
Real Life events are coming back so

[quote="Renji Asuka":37tez9u2][quote="Sound4":37tez9u2][quote="Renji Asuka":37tez9u2]
YOU made assumptions, so yes, it is imaginary bullshit and why should I care about having the deck be top tier? I been playing Dark Worlds SINCE Elemental Energy. It's a long time staple deck for me so any support for it makes me excited. End of story.

And your video is meaningless to me.

Also ending on a link 2 with some backrow is still bad. If you're not not stopping your opponent's plays, you're not doing anything.

If you would lose because of any board wipe, your field is bad. End of story. If Unchained were good, we'd see them in events. But we don't. At most it's a locals level deck. Which tells us that the deck can't even be considered rogue tier.

You also claim to be a good pilot, but with your track record, it's unlikely. As you can't even read what is being told to you while also lacking critical thinking skills.[/quote:37tez9u2]
I said that you should not get your hopes up since this probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention. There is no reason to play this deck at the moment.

You clearly have not understood anything on how Unchained works and my reply. The backrow is disruption and again Unchained is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus the link 2 Unchained rage allows you to link with another monster on the opponent's side. Since a pit if people start with the rite of aramesir to summon a token and get fateful to their side of the field. You can you Unchained rage to link with itself and the token making the whole Adventure Token package at that point useless as the token us very important. Since wandering gryphon can't negate without an adventure token.

Your last paragraph makes no sense. The replay actually shows a lot on how if played by a good pilot unchained can be really good. Here is a replay with me destroying swordsoul woth unchained 2-0. Swordsoul another top deck currently.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-38251953[/quote:37tez9u2]
No, you moved the goal post. You made the claim that "I was acting as if Dark Worlds would be top tier" when you're the one who brought up competitive viability. . That is VERY different than what you're attempting to claim. Now stfu and sit the fuck down and think before you even respond so you can at least BE consistent.

You then claim I don't know how unchained works, then proceed to repeat what I already said about their links? Are you just responding while not reading what is being told to you or are you just stupid?

You then proceed to claim that my last paragraph doesn't make sense, yet you choose to ignore how you constantly tried to cheat in ranked Ingeneiro so you can win. You end up stalling or even LYING to the opponent when you would lose. That tells me enough about your skills as a player.

Also if Unchained was rogue, we'd see them in regionals AT LEAST. But wait, we don't...so it isn't a "rogue" deck.[/quote:37tez9u2]
I was saying that the support would most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention especially as they already don't really have any interactions with the current meta.

I was explaining how unchained works as you clearly don't. Your 2nd to last paragraph has nothing to do with the current topic.

Plus you don't consider representation there are many decks that are tier /rogue bit don't have enough representation to get played more in big events. For example, a deck like Virtual World is currently tier 2 but don't have good representation so don't get played much. Does that mean it is a bad deck? No it just does not have enough representation.

[quote="Sound4":mn7f8qhw][quote="Renji Asuka":mn7f8qhw][quote="Sound4":mn7f8qhw]
I said that you should not get your hopes up since this probably won't put Dark world into top tier contention. There is no reason to play this deck at the moment.

You clearly have not understood anything on how Unchained works and my reply. The backrow is disruption and again Unchained is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus the link 2 Unchained rage allows you to link with another monster on the opponent's side. Since a pit if people start with the rite of aramesir to summon a token and get fateful to their side of the field. You can you Unchained rage to link with itself and the token making the whole Adventure Token package at that point useless as the token us very important. Since wandering gryphon can't negate without an adventure token.

Your last paragraph makes no sense. The replay actually shows a lot on how if played by a good pilot unchained can be really good. Here is a replay with me destroying swordsoul woth unchained 2-0. Swordsoul another top deck currently.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=815175-38251953[/quote:mn7f8qhw]
No, you moved the goal post. You made the claim that "I was acting as if Dark Worlds would be top tier" when you're the one who brought up competitive viability. . That is VERY different than what you're attempting to claim. Now stfu and sit the fuck down and think before you even respond so you can at least BE consistent.

You then claim I don't know how unchained works, then proceed to repeat what I already said about their links? Are you just responding while not reading what is being told to you or are you just stupid?

You then proceed to claim that my last paragraph doesn't make sense, yet you choose to ignore how you constantly tried to cheat in ranked Ingeneiro so you can win. You end up stalling or even LYING to the opponent when you would lose. That tells me enough about your skills as a player.

Also if Unchained was rogue, we'd see them in regionals AT LEAST. But wait, we don't...so it isn't a "rogue" deck.[/quote:mn7f8qhw]
I was saying that the support would most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention especially as they already don't really have any interactions with the current meta.

I was explaining how unchained works as you clearly don't. Your 2nd to last paragraph has nothing to do with the current topic.

Plus you don't consider representation there are many decks that are tier /rogue bit don't have enough representation to get played more in big events. For example, a deck like Virtual World is currently tier 2 but don't have good representation so don't get played much. Does that mean it is a bad deck? No it just does not have enough representation.[/quote:mn7f8qhw]

Your words "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." Only YOU brought up competitive viability, while NOTHING in my post stated ANYTHING about competitive viability.

Also you said the same thing I did regarding their links. I played around with Unchained, it isn't good and it isn't rogue. It's trash tier.

Also my 2nd to last paragraph DID in fact have something involved with the topic as YOU'RE the one who decided to stick your own foot in your mouth.

Also imagine comparing Virtual Worlds to Unchained. I can't even lmao

Please, keep being bad.

[quote="Renji Asuka":37m46284][quote="Sound4":37m46284][quote="Renji Asuka":37m46284]
No, you moved the goal post. You made the claim that "I was acting as if Dark Worlds would be top tier" when you're the one who brought up competitive viability. . That is VERY different than what you're attempting to claim. Now stfu and sit the fuck down and think before you even respond so you can at least BE consistent.

You then claim I don't know how unchained works, then proceed to repeat what I already said about their links? Are you just responding while not reading what is being told to you or are you just stupid?

You then proceed to claim that my last paragraph doesn't make sense, yet you choose to ignore how you constantly tried to cheat in ranked Ingeneiro so you can win. You end up stalling or even LYING to the opponent when you would lose. That tells me enough about your skills as a player.

Also if Unchained was rogue, we'd see them in regionals AT LEAST. But wait, we don't...so it isn't a "rogue" deck.[/quote:37m46284]
I was saying that the support would most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention especially as they already don't really have any interactions with the current meta.

I was explaining how unchained works as you clearly don't. Your 2nd to last paragraph has nothing to do with the current topic.

Plus you don't consider representation there are many decks that are tier /rogue bit don't have enough representation to get played more in big events. For example, a deck like Virtual World is currently tier 2 but don't have good representation so don't get played much. Does that mean it is a bad deck? No it just does not have enough representation.[/quote:37m46284]

Your words "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." Only YOU brought up competitive viability, while NOTHING in my post stated ANYTHING about competitive viability.

Also you said the same thing I did regarding their links. I played around with Unchained, it isn't good and it isn't rogue. It's trash tier.

Also my 2nd to last paragraph DID in fact have something involved with the topic as YOU'RE the one who decided to stick your own foot in your mouth.

Also imagine comparing Virtual Worlds to Unchained. I can't even lmao

Please, keep being bad.[/quote:37m46284]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.

[quote="Sound4":1vbznr75][quote="Renji Asuka":1vbznr75][quote="Sound4":1vbznr75]
I was saying that the support would most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention especially as they already don't really have any interactions with the current meta.

I was explaining how unchained works as you clearly don't. Your 2nd to last paragraph has nothing to do with the current topic.

Plus you don't consider representation there are many decks that are tier /rogue bit don't have enough representation to get played more in big events. For example, a deck like Virtual World is currently tier 2 but don't have good representation so don't get played much. Does that mean it is a bad deck? No it just does not have enough representation.[/quote:1vbznr75]

Your words "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." Only YOU brought up competitive viability, while NOTHING in my post stated ANYTHING about competitive viability.

Also you said the same thing I did regarding their links. I played around with Unchained, it isn't good and it isn't rogue. It's trash tier.

Also my 2nd to last paragraph DID in fact have something involved with the topic as YOU'RE the one who decided to stick your own foot in your mouth.

Also imagine comparing Virtual Worlds to Unchained. I can't even lmao

Please, keep being bad.[/quote:1vbznr75]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.[/quote:1vbznr75]
A "control" deck with only 2 Quick-play interactions in archtype, neither of which are negates and only target one card. Altergeist has much more ability to control with Silq, Protocol, and Hextia, as well as Multifaker being friendly with floodgates.

[quote="Sound4":1iycbbdt][quote="Renji Asuka":1iycbbdt][quote="Sound4":1iycbbdt]
I was saying that the support would most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention especially as they already don't really have any interactions with the current meta.

I was explaining how unchained works as you clearly don't. Your 2nd to last paragraph has nothing to do with the current topic.

Plus you don't consider representation there are many decks that are tier /rogue bit don't have enough representation to get played more in big events. For example, a deck like Virtual World is currently tier 2 but don't have good representation so don't get played much. Does that mean it is a bad deck? No it just does not have enough representation.[/quote:1iycbbdt]

Your words "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." Only YOU brought up competitive viability, while NOTHING in my post stated ANYTHING about competitive viability.

Also you said the same thing I did regarding their links. I played around with Unchained, it isn't good and it isn't rogue. It's trash tier.

Also my 2nd to last paragraph DID in fact have something involved with the topic as YOU'RE the one who decided to stick your own foot in your mouth.

Also imagine comparing Virtual Worlds to Unchained. I can't even lmao

Please, keep being bad.[/quote:1iycbbdt]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.[/quote:1iycbbdt]

Funnily enough, earlier today I faced an unchained player in a duel room on Master Duel. I asked if he wanted a serious duel or if he wanted a duel of nonsensical bullshit, he wanted a serious duel. He played Unchained, I smashed him with True Draco. To be fair the duel was long NOT because of his unchained cards, but because my RNG was crappy and him using Torrential Tribute on 2 of my normal summons. Also keep in mind, he bricked like crazy. My true Draco deck controlled the game. Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness. He brought out his 3k Beaters eventually and Apocalypse came in clutch. He tried to use his trap to special summon and I flipped Vanity's on it. And fun fact, he was actually a good player, unfortunately True Draco just did the job better.

Unchained doesn't have the amount of control as you think it does. It does literally nothing. If Unchained was as good as you say it was, it'd be on par with True Draco, it's not. It's infinitely worse.

You also claim I don't know how unchained works, yet I literally already told you how it works. I know what they're links do. I know what their traps do. It's still a shitty deck.

And as not only I keep telling you, you beating a higher tier deck doesn't mean jack shit. Any deck can beat any deck every once in awhile. Your deck isn't on par with True Draco, end of story. True Draco is more rogue than Unchained. That is why your replay is irrelevant. It doesn't prove you right and it doesn't prove me wrong.

"I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up." No you weren't. You revealed your REAL intentions with "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." you quite literally moved the goalpost after you got called out on your bullshit.

[quote="Renji Asuka":e9hpobv4][quote="Sound4":e9hpobv4][quote="Renji Asuka":e9hpobv4]

Your words "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." Only YOU brought up competitive viability, while NOTHING in my post stated ANYTHING about competitive viability.

Also you said the same thing I did regarding their links. I played around with Unchained, it isn't good and it isn't rogue. It's trash tier.

Also my 2nd to last paragraph DID in fact have something involved with the topic as YOU'RE the one who decided to stick your own foot in your mouth.

Also imagine comparing Virtual Worlds to Unchained. I can't even lmao

Please, keep being bad.[/quote:e9hpobv4]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.[/quote:e9hpobv4]

Funnily enough, earlier today I faced an unchained player in a duel room on Master Duel. I asked if he wanted a serious duel or if he wanted a duel of nonsensical bullshit, he wanted a serious duel. He played Unchained, I smashed him with True Draco. To be fair the duel was long NOT because of his unchained cards, but because my RNG was crappy and him using Torrential Tribute on 2 of my normal summons. Also keep in mind, he bricked like crazy. My true Draco deck controlled the game. Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness. He brought out his 3k Beaters eventually and Apocalypse came in clutch. He tried to use his trap to special summon and I flipped Vanity's on it. And fun fact, he was actually a good player, unfortunately True Draco just did the job better.

Unchained doesn't have the amount of control as you think it does. It does literally nothing. If Unchained was as good as you say it was, it'd be on par with True Draco, it's not. It's infinitely worse.

You also claim I don't know how unchained works, yet I literally already told you how it works. I know what they're links do. I know what their traps do. It's still a shitty deck.

And as not only I keep telling you, you beating a higher tier deck doesn't mean jack shit. Any deck can beat any deck every once in awhile. Your deck isn't on par with True Draco, end of story. True Draco is more rogue than Unchained. That is why your replay is irrelevant. It doesn't prove you right and it doesn't prove me wrong.

"I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up." No you weren't. You revealed your REAL intentions with "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." you quite literally moved the goalpost after you got called out on your bullshit.[/quote:e9hpobv4]

Are you sure using Master Duel as a means of judging how good a deck is, instead of duelingbook itself or EDOpro, is a good idea? Master Duel has a completely different format and banlist, and even different rulings and so on, so decks that may be strong/weak there may be the opposite here in the TCG/OCG.

[quote="Christen57":2484606k][quote="Renji Asuka":2484606k][quote="Sound4":2484606k]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.[/quote:2484606k]

Funnily enough, earlier today I faced an unchained player in a duel room on Master Duel. I asked if he wanted a serious duel or if he wanted a duel of nonsensical bullshit, he wanted a serious duel. He played Unchained, I smashed him with True Draco. To be fair the duel was long NOT because of his unchained cards, but because my RNG was crappy and him using Torrential Tribute on 2 of my normal summons. Also keep in mind, he bricked like crazy. My true Draco deck controlled the game. Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness. He brought out his 3k Beaters eventually and Apocalypse came in clutch. He tried to use his trap to special summon and I flipped Vanity's on it. And fun fact, he was actually a good player, unfortunately True Draco just did the job better.

Unchained doesn't have the amount of control as you think it does. It does literally nothing. If Unchained was as good as you say it was, it'd be on par with True Draco, it's not. It's infinitely worse.

You also claim I don't know how unchained works, yet I literally already told you how it works. I know what they're links do. I know what their traps do. It's still a shitty deck.

And as not only I keep telling you, you beating a higher tier deck doesn't mean jack shit. Any deck can beat any deck every once in awhile. Your deck isn't on par with True Draco, end of story. True Draco is more rogue than Unchained. That is why your replay is irrelevant. It doesn't prove you right and it doesn't prove me wrong.

"I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up." No you weren't. You revealed your REAL intentions with "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." you quite literally moved the goalpost after you got called out on your bullshit.[/quote:2484606k]

Are you sure using Master Duel as a means of judging how good a deck is, instead of duelingbook itself or EDOpro, is a good idea? Master Duel has a completely different format and banlist, and even different rulings and so on, so decks that may be strong/weak there may be the opposite here in the TCG/OCG.[/quote:2484606k]
I mean, it can still be a decent gauge on whether a deck is good or not. Since there is a lot more powerful cards that are legal. Hell even Vanity's Emptiness is a powerful card and is at 1 for instance that every deck can afford to run. Maxx "C" also helps even lower tiered stuff.

Hell I could even beat that Unchained player with Red Dragon Archfiend as I do run Kaiser Colosseum. But also considering that Unchained has no cards that are limited in the TCG or OCG in any capacity it can show the deck is capable of just enough.

Also Unchained can't work under the grind game very well unlike True Draco. Another reason why Unchained is bad especially if you play it as a "control" deck you need to make sure you can go into the grind game successfully.

[quote="Renji Asuka":v1umco1d][quote="Sound4":v1umco1d][quote="Renji Asuka":v1umco1d]

Your words "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." Only YOU brought up competitive viability, while NOTHING in my post stated ANYTHING about competitive viability.

Also you said the same thing I did regarding their links. I played around with Unchained, it isn't good and it isn't rogue. It's trash tier.

Also my 2nd to last paragraph DID in fact have something involved with the topic as YOU'RE the one who decided to stick your own foot in your mouth.

Also imagine comparing Virtual Worlds to Unchained. I can't even lmao

Please, keep being bad.[/quote:v1umco1d]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.[/quote:v1umco1d]

Funnily enough, earlier today I faced an unchained player in a duel room on Master Duel. I asked if he wanted a serious duel or if he wanted a duel of nonsensical bullshit, he wanted a serious duel. He played Unchained, I smashed him with True Draco. To be fair the duel was long NOT because of his unchained cards, but because my RNG was crappy and him using Torrential Tribute on 2 of my normal summons. Also keep in mind, he bricked like crazy. My true Draco deck controlled the game. Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness. He brought out his 3k Beaters eventually and Apocalypse came in clutch. He tried to use his trap to special summon and I flipped Vanity's on it. And fun fact, he was actually a good player, unfortunately True Draco just did the job better.

Unchained doesn't have the amount of control as you think it does. It does literally nothing. If Unchained was as good as you say it was, it'd be on par with True Draco, it's not. It's infinitely worse.

You also claim I don't know how unchained works, yet I literally already told you how it works. I know what they're links do. I know what their traps do. It's still a shitty deck.

And as not only I keep telling you, you beating a higher tier deck doesn't mean jack shit. Any deck can beat any deck every once in awhile. Your deck isn't on par with True Draco, end of story. True Draco is more rogue than Unchained. That is why your replay is irrelevant. It doesn't prove you right and it doesn't prove me wrong.

"I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up." No you weren't. You revealed your REAL intentions with "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." you quite literally moved the goalpost after you got called out on your bullshit.[/quote:v1umco1d]
Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist. You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad. Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system. Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption.

Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals. Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before.

[quote="Sound4":18j34rvb][quote="Renji Asuka":18j34rvb][quote="Sound4":18j34rvb]
I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up.

You don't know how Unchained works. Again it is a control deck not a combo deck. Plus you literally ignored the replay I provided destroying even though you say Unchained is "trash tier".

I mentioned VW in regards to representation. I recommend reading the reply first properly. Representation is important.[/quote:18j34rvb]

Funnily enough, earlier today I faced an unchained player in a duel room on Master Duel. I asked if he wanted a serious duel or if he wanted a duel of nonsensical bullshit, he wanted a serious duel. He played Unchained, I smashed him with True Draco. To be fair the duel was long NOT because of his unchained cards, but because my RNG was crappy and him using Torrential Tribute on 2 of my normal summons. Also keep in mind, he bricked like crazy. My true Draco deck controlled the game. Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness. He brought out his 3k Beaters eventually and Apocalypse came in clutch. He tried to use his trap to special summon and I flipped Vanity's on it. And fun fact, he was actually a good player, unfortunately True Draco just did the job better.

Unchained doesn't have the amount of control as you think it does. It does literally nothing. If Unchained was as good as you say it was, it'd be on par with True Draco, it's not. It's infinitely worse.

You also claim I don't know how unchained works, yet I literally already told you how it works. I know what they're links do. I know what their traps do. It's still a shitty deck.

And as not only I keep telling you, you beating a higher tier deck doesn't mean jack shit. Any deck can beat any deck every once in awhile. Your deck isn't on par with True Draco, end of story. True Draco is more rogue than Unchained. That is why your replay is irrelevant. It doesn't prove you right and it doesn't prove me wrong.

"I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up." No you weren't. You revealed your REAL intentions with "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." you quite literally moved the goalpost after you got called out on your bullshit.[/quote:18j34rvb]
Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist. You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad. Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system. Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption.

Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals. Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before.[/quote:18j34rvb]
"Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist." I already addressed this. NEXT!

"You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad." Already addressed this too. NEXT!

"Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system." Didn't I already say it was a control deck that fails miserably in the grind game? Oh wait already addressed this. NEXT!

"Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption." See above. NEXT!

"Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals." True Draco is still far more viable than Unchained. There is a ton of floodgates that True Draco can run that can perform better in the grind game, oh wait already talked about that. NEXT!

"Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before." Considering you decided to talk shit about Dark Worlds and how they wouldn't be competitively viable if they didn't get good support IN YOUR FIRST REPLY, me bringing up how they were META was after you started talking shit that was not only showing your own ignorance, but also showed your failure in reading comprehension. Then you chose to double down, back track, and move the goal post.

Unchained is still trash.

oh no its happening again
ITS HAPPENING AGAIN AHHHHHHHHHHHH
OH DEAR GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT AGAIN

[quote="Renji Asuka":2sc1rye9][quote="Sound4":2sc1rye9][quote="Renji Asuka":2sc1rye9]

Funnily enough, earlier today I faced an unchained player in a duel room on Master Duel. I asked if he wanted a serious duel or if he wanted a duel of nonsensical bullshit, he wanted a serious duel. He played Unchained, I smashed him with True Draco. To be fair the duel was long NOT because of his unchained cards, but because my RNG was crappy and him using Torrential Tribute on 2 of my normal summons. Also keep in mind, he bricked like crazy. My true Draco deck controlled the game. Summon Limit, Skill Drain, Vanity's Emptiness. He brought out his 3k Beaters eventually and Apocalypse came in clutch. He tried to use his trap to special summon and I flipped Vanity's on it. And fun fact, he was actually a good player, unfortunately True Draco just did the job better.

Unchained doesn't have the amount of control as you think it does. It does literally nothing. If Unchained was as good as you say it was, it'd be on par with True Draco, it's not. It's infinitely worse.

You also claim I don't know how unchained works, yet I literally already told you how it works. I know what they're links do. I know what their traps do. It's still a shitty deck.

And as not only I keep telling you, you beating a higher tier deck doesn't mean jack shit. Any deck can beat any deck every once in awhile. Your deck isn't on par with True Draco, end of story. True Draco is more rogue than Unchained. That is why your replay is irrelevant. It doesn't prove you right and it doesn't prove me wrong.

"I was simply saying that this support most likely won't be putting Dark world into top tier contention so you should not get your hopes up." No you weren't. You revealed your REAL intentions with "You are acting like the support will make this deck into top tier contention. If you want to play casually that is fine but please don' t act like this will Dark world in top tier contention." you quite literally moved the goalpost after you got called out on your bullshit.[/quote:2sc1rye9]
Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist. You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad. Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system. Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption.

Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals. Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before.[/quote:2sc1rye9]
"Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist." I already addressed this. NEXT!

"You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad." Already addressed this too. NEXT!

"Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system." Didn't I already say it was a control deck that fails miserably in the grind game? Oh wait already addressed this. NEXT!

"Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption." See above. NEXT!

"Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals." True Draco is still far more viable than Unchained. There is a ton of floodgates that True Draco can run that can perform better in the grind game, oh wait already talked about that. NEXT!

"Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before." Considering you decided to talk shit about Dark Worlds and how they wouldn't be competitively viable if they didn't get good support IN YOUR FIRST REPLY, me bringing up how they were META was after you started talking shit that was not only showing your own ignorance, but also showed your failure in reading comprehension. Then you chose to double down, back track, and move the goal post.

Unchained is still trash.[/quote:2sc1rye9]
Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.

[quote="Sound4":2r34hftt]Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:2r34hftt]
Oh, then show me 10 games this week you beat meta with Unchained

[quote="Sound4":23jkapbp][quote="Renji Asuka":23jkapbp][quote="Sound4":23jkapbp]
Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist. You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad. Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system. Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption.

Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals. Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before.[/quote:23jkapbp]
"Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist." I already addressed this. NEXT!

"You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad." Already addressed this too. NEXT!

"Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system." Didn't I already say it was a control deck that fails miserably in the grind game? Oh wait already addressed this. NEXT!

"Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption." See above. NEXT!

"Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals." True Draco is still far more viable than Unchained. There is a ton of floodgates that True Draco can run that can perform better in the grind game, oh wait already talked about that. NEXT!

"Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before." Considering you decided to talk shit about Dark Worlds and how they wouldn't be competitively viable if they didn't get good support IN YOUR FIRST REPLY, me bringing up how they were META was after you started talking shit that was not only showing your own ignorance, but also showed your failure in reading comprehension. Then you chose to double down, back track, and move the goal post.

Unchained is still trash.[/quote:23jkapbp]
Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:23jkapbp]

No, your points hold 0 standing. You been caught in your bullshit. Then when you got called out YOU STILL keep trying to make pointless points that hold 0 ground in the argument.

You then claim that I'm "ignoring your replays and that proves that you're right" is you being intellectually dishonest. As I stated multiple times ANY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER DECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. 2 Replays MEAN NOTHING.

Also if you think True Draco plays King Calamity, fun fact, it doesn't. It plays the same way as it does in the TCG just more floodgate options.

You also revealed your real intention because YOU ASSUMED that I was saying the deck will be Tier 1. When I never stated that let alone "acted" like it.

You can keep lying, but you're going to keep being intellectually dishonest.

If you want an actual debate, cut the bullshit.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3ts5cnma][quote="Sound4":3ts5cnma][quote="Renji Asuka":3ts5cnma]
"Your comment about you playing against Unchained in MD is not good to use especially since it is a completely different format and banlist." I already addressed this. NEXT!

"You ignored the two replays I provided yet you still think Unchained is bad." Already addressed this too. NEXT!

"Again Unchained is a control deck and I said in a previous thread about DB shuffling system." Didn't I already say it was a control deck that fails miserably in the grind game? Oh wait already addressed this. NEXT!

"Unchained is to also put players in a simplified gamestate plus you jeep forgetting that the backrow is disruption." See above. NEXT!

"Plus True draco is not played in TCG like at all no one plays it Competitively. I have not even seen anyone topping with it in locals." True Draco is still far more viable than Unchained. There is a ton of floodgates that True Draco can run that can perform better in the grind game, oh wait already talked about that. NEXT!

"Plus yes tou were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially since you were mentioning them being meta before." Considering you decided to talk shit about Dark Worlds and how they wouldn't be competitively viable if they didn't get good support IN YOUR FIRST REPLY, me bringing up how they were META was after you started talking shit that was not only showing your own ignorance, but also showed your failure in reading comprehension. Then you chose to double down, back track, and move the goal post.

Unchained is still trash.[/quote:3ts5cnma]
Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:3ts5cnma]

No, your points hold 0 standing. You been caught in your bullshit. Then when you got called out YOU STILL keep trying to make pointless points that hold 0 ground in the argument.

You then claim that I'm "ignoring your replays and that proves that you're right" is you being intellectually dishonest. As I stated multiple times ANY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER DECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. 2 Replays MEAN NOTHING.

Also if you think True Draco plays King Calamity, fun fact, it doesn't. It plays the same way as it does in the TCG just more floodgate options.

You also revealed your real intention because YOU ASSUMED that I was saying the deck will be Tier 1. When I never stated that let alone "acted" like it.

You can keep lying, but you're going to keep being intellectually dishonest.

If you want an actual debate, cut the bullshit.[/quote:3ts5cnma]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.

[quote="Sound4":1tlnppg6][quote="Renji Asuka":1tlnppg6][quote="Sound4":1tlnppg6]
Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:1tlnppg6]

No, your points hold 0 standing. You been caught in your bullshit. Then when you got called out YOU STILL keep trying to make pointless points that hold 0 ground in the argument.

You then claim that I'm "ignoring your replays and that proves that you're right" is you being intellectually dishonest. As I stated multiple times ANY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER DECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. 2 Replays MEAN NOTHING.

Also if you think True Draco plays King Calamity, fun fact, it doesn't. It plays the same way as it does in the TCG just more floodgate options.

You also revealed your real intention because YOU ASSUMED that I was saying the deck will be Tier 1. When I never stated that let alone "acted" like it.

You can keep lying, but you're going to keep being intellectually dishonest.

If you want an actual debate, cut the bullshit.[/quote:1tlnppg6]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.[/quote:1tlnppg6]
Ah yes, Calamities is the True Draco card that got banned.

[quote="Sound4":2oze5mk7][quote="Renji Asuka":2oze5mk7][quote="Sound4":2oze5mk7]
Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:2oze5mk7]

No, your points hold 0 standing. You been caught in your bullshit. Then when you got called out YOU STILL keep trying to make pointless points that hold 0 ground in the argument.

You then claim that I'm "ignoring your replays and that proves that you're right" is you being intellectually dishonest. As I stated multiple times ANY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER DECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. 2 Replays MEAN NOTHING.

Also if you think True Draco plays King Calamity, fun fact, it doesn't. It plays the same way as it does in the TCG just more floodgate options.

You also revealed your real intention because YOU ASSUMED that I was saying the deck will be Tier 1. When I never stated that let alone "acted" like it.

You can keep lying, but you're going to keep being intellectually dishonest.

If you want an actual debate, cut the bullshit.[/quote:2oze5mk7]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.[/quote:2oze5mk7]
Mf really confusing True King with True Draco.

Here's a real rouge deck with strictly better unchained https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10570484

[quote="greg503":2ngjg0s7][quote="Sound4":2ngjg0s7]Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:2ngjg0s7]
Oh, then show me 10 games this week you beat meta with Unchained[/quote:2ngjg0s7]
I don't play rated or meta everyday. I can probably show you top decks I have beaten with Unchained but n this week.

[quote="Sound4":1qv752f4][quote="greg503":1qv752f4][quote="Sound4":1qv752f4]Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:1qv752f4]
Oh, then show me 10 games this week you beat meta with Unchained[/quote:1qv752f4]
I don't play rated or meta everyday. I can probably show you top decks I have beaten with Unchained but n this week.[/quote:1qv752f4]

Nice streak owo

[quote="greg503":2ls1umys][quote="Sound4":2ls1umys][quote="greg503":2ls1umys]
Oh, then show me 10 games this week you beat meta with Unchained[/quote:2ls1umys]
I don't play rated or meta everyday. I can probably show you top decks I have beaten with Unchained but n this week.[/quote:2ls1umys]

Nice streak owo[/quote:2ls1umys]
Read the other reply I have sent you.

[quote="Sound4":5lgxv106][quote="Renji Asuka":5lgxv106][quote="Sound4":5lgxv106]
Yes I know you addressed it but my point still stands. The two replays you still ignored saying "it means nothing to me" basically proving that you have no argument. If Unchained is trash tier then why am I beating top decks easily and consistently?

Plus in MD King calamities is nit banned which makes true draco broken in MD. I said that this support most likely won't put Dark world onto top tier contention so you getting hyped don't be disappointed when the support does not do much to make the Deck better.[/quote:5lgxv106]

No, your points hold 0 standing. You been caught in your bullshit. Then when you got called out YOU STILL keep trying to make pointless points that hold 0 ground in the argument.

You then claim that I'm "ignoring your replays and that proves that you're right" is you being intellectually dishonest. As I stated multiple times ANY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER DECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. 2 Replays MEAN NOTHING.

Also if you think True Draco plays King Calamity, fun fact, it doesn't. It plays the same way as it does in the TCG just more floodgate options.

You also revealed your real intention because YOU ASSUMED that I was saying the deck will be Tier 1. When I never stated that let alone "acted" like it.

You can keep lying, but you're going to keep being intellectually dishonest.

If you want an actual debate, cut the bullshit.[/quote:5lgxv106]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.[/quote:5lgxv106]

And here is where you fail once again showing your insane amount of lack of knowledge in yugioh.

The deck's mechanics and how they operate are the same. Unchained still plays like it does in the OCG/TCG. There is only a tiny difference with floodgates and hand traps, but at the core the decks are the same and play the same way. That is why you'll always be wrong in this situation. Now if I compared it with Duel Links, you'd be correct since the rules for that game are vastly different.

"Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals."

Uhhhh....LMAO, yeah okay buddy. Fun fact True Draco inherently CANNOT PLAY Calamity. You are showing your lack of knowledge of an archetype. No True Draco monster that is ran is a level 9. Ignis is level 5, Dinomight is level 6, Majesty Maiden is level 5, Dreiath is level 6, Master Peace is level 8 (which is fun fact, banned in Master Duel), Metaltron XII is level 9 but NO TRUE DRACO RUNS IT.

"Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad."

Bruh, when Skill Drain flips up, it's always going to be in response to a person's monster effect, it won't be flipped up willy nilly. Also implying Gozen Match is being played isn't really effective as most combos can go off under 1 attribute. Now if you mentioned Rivalry, then it'd realistically powerful against decks when Zombie World is up.

"The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive."

No it doesn't. Again EVERY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. End of story.

"Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly."

It cannot grind as well as True Draco. Hell even Burning Abyss in 2022 can do a better grind game than your Trash Unchained deck.

"I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good."

And here you go backtracking once more.

Bruh, Krawlers have better grind game than Unchained.

[quote="Lil Oldman":uxqcq9qe]Bruh, Krawlers have better grind game than Unchained.[/quote:uxqcq9qe]
I may not like Krawlers as a deck, but at least they have some insane cards that grant them advantage.

It is still history that Unchained is what a meta?
But when has that archetype ever been meta, even since it came out of those set booster.
L'Unchained IS ONLY AN EXTENDER LINK ONLY!

END OF THE STORY!

[quote="DarwisBellium92":ssljzxtt]It is still history that Unchained is what a meta?
But when has that archetype ever been meta, even since it came out of those set booster.
L'Unchained IS ONLY AN EXTENDER LINK ONLY!

END OF THE STORY![/quote:ssljzxtt]
I thought you left and were done with this thread? Seems like that is not the case.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2fn5z8f5][quote="Sound4":2fn5z8f5][quote="Renji Asuka":2fn5z8f5]

No, your points hold 0 standing. You been caught in your bullshit. Then when you got called out YOU STILL keep trying to make pointless points that hold 0 ground in the argument.

You then claim that I'm "ignoring your replays and that proves that you're right" is you being intellectually dishonest. As I stated multiple times ANY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER DECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. 2 Replays MEAN NOTHING.

Also if you think True Draco plays King Calamity, fun fact, it doesn't. It plays the same way as it does in the TCG just more floodgate options.

You also revealed your real intention because YOU ASSUMED that I was saying the deck will be Tier 1. When I never stated that let alone "acted" like it.

You can keep lying, but you're going to keep being intellectually dishonest.

If you want an actual debate, cut the bullshit.[/quote:2fn5z8f5]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.[/quote:2fn5z8f5]

And here is where you fail once again showing your insane amount of lack of knowledge in yugioh.

The deck's mechanics and how they operate are the same. Unchained still plays like it does in the OCG/TCG. There is only a tiny difference with floodgates and hand traps, but at the core the decks are the same and play the same way. That is why you'll always be wrong in this situation. Now if I compared it with Duel Links, you'd be correct since the rules for that game are vastly different.

"Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals."

Uhhhh....LMAO, yeah okay buddy. Fun fact True Draco inherently CANNOT PLAY Calamity. You are showing your lack of knowledge of an archetype. No True Draco monster that is ran is a level 9. Ignis is level 5, Dinomight is level 6, Majesty Maiden is level 5, Dreiath is level 6, Master Peace is level 8 (which is fun fact, banned in Master Duel), Metaltron XII is level 9 but NO TRUE DRACO RUNS IT.

"Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad."

Bruh, when Skill Drain flips up, it's always going to be in response to a person's monster effect, it won't be flipped up willy nilly. Also implying Gozen Match is being played isn't really effective as most combos can go off under 1 attribute. Now if you mentioned Rivalry, then it'd realistically powerful against decks when Zombie World is up.

"The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive."

No it doesn't. Again EVERY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. End of story.

"Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly."

It cannot grind as well as True Draco. Hell even Burning Abyss in 2022 can do a better grind game than your Trash Unchained deck.

"I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good."

And here you go backtracking once more.[/quote:2fn5z8f5]
True draco can actually play calamities with another archetype like dinos. Again MD has a completely different banlist and format. Haven't you seen people complaining about MD recently about the banlist? Most people have a problem with the floodgates like Order being legal and other cards that should be banned. Plus ND is a best of 1 which makes decks who play floodgates better.

Plus I literally said the same thing I said on page one as this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention.

Unchained has a pretty goud grind game if played correctly I don't see how that is not the case. Again Unchained is a control deck.

[quote="Sound4":1fzzp8jm][quote="Renji Asuka":1fzzp8jm][quote="Sound4":1fzzp8jm]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.[/quote:1fzzp8jm]

And here is where you fail once again showing your insane amount of lack of knowledge in yugioh.

The deck's mechanics and how they operate are the same. Unchained still plays like it does in the OCG/TCG. There is only a tiny difference with floodgates and hand traps, but at the core the decks are the same and play the same way. That is why you'll always be wrong in this situation. Now if I compared it with Duel Links, you'd be correct since the rules for that game are vastly different.

"Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals."

Uhhhh....LMAO, yeah okay buddy. Fun fact True Draco inherently CANNOT PLAY Calamity. You are showing your lack of knowledge of an archetype. No True Draco monster that is ran is a level 9. Ignis is level 5, Dinomight is level 6, Majesty Maiden is level 5, Dreiath is level 6, Master Peace is level 8 (which is fun fact, banned in Master Duel), Metaltron XII is level 9 but NO TRUE DRACO RUNS IT.

"Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad."

Bruh, when Skill Drain flips up, it's always going to be in response to a person's monster effect, it won't be flipped up willy nilly. Also implying Gozen Match is being played isn't really effective as most combos can go off under 1 attribute. Now if you mentioned Rivalry, then it'd realistically powerful against decks when Zombie World is up.

"The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive."

No it doesn't. Again EVERY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. End of story.

"Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly."

It cannot grind as well as True Draco. Hell even Burning Abyss in 2022 can do a better grind game than your Trash Unchained deck.

"I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good."

And here you go backtracking once more.[/quote:1fzzp8jm]
True draco can actually play calamities with another archetype like dinos. Again MD has a completely different banlist and format. Haven't you seen people complaining about MD recently about the banlist? Most people have a problem with the floodgates like Order being legal and other cards that should be banned. Plus ND is a best of 1 which makes decks who play floodgates better.

Plus I literally said the same thing I said on page one as this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention.

Unchained has a pretty goud grind game if played correctly I don't see how that is not the case. Again Unchained is a control deck.[/quote:1fzzp8jm]
OK, tell me how Unchained is able to get its GY back, Eldlich uses it to go +, Altergeist revives interactition or monsters that go +, True Draco recycles with one of its spells and goes +. There is no grind game if you cant + and relying on your opponent to ONLY use destruction removal is foolish.

[quote="Sound4":ej8efa0s][quote="Renji Asuka":ej8efa0s][quote="Sound4":ej8efa0s]
Yes the point still stands. Using MD to tier other decks is bad especially since it is a completely different format and banlist.

Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals. Calamities is what makes it broken. Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad. It needs support and protection. Plus MD is a best of one which makes true draco a bit better.

The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive. I don't think you fully realise what you mean "trash tier". Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly.

I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good.[/quote:ej8efa0s]

And here is where you fail once again showing your insane amount of lack of knowledge in yugioh.

The deck's mechanics and how they operate are the same. Unchained still plays like it does in the OCG/TCG. There is only a tiny difference with floodgates and hand traps, but at the core the decks are the same and play the same way. That is why you'll always be wrong in this situation. Now if I compared it with Duel Links, you'd be correct since the rules for that game are vastly different.

"Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals."

Uhhhh....LMAO, yeah okay buddy. Fun fact True Draco inherently CANNOT PLAY Calamity. You are showing your lack of knowledge of an archetype. No True Draco monster that is ran is a level 9. Ignis is level 5, Dinomight is level 6, Majesty Maiden is level 5, Dreiath is level 6, Master Peace is level 8 (which is fun fact, banned in Master Duel), Metaltron XII is level 9 but NO TRUE DRACO RUNS IT.

"Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad."

Bruh, when Skill Drain flips up, it's always going to be in response to a person's monster effect, it won't be flipped up willy nilly. Also implying Gozen Match is being played isn't really effective as most combos can go off under 1 attribute. Now if you mentioned Rivalry, then it'd realistically powerful against decks when Zombie World is up.

"The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive."

No it doesn't. Again EVERY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. End of story.

"Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly."

It cannot grind as well as True Draco. Hell even Burning Abyss in 2022 can do a better grind game than your Trash Unchained deck.

"I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good."

And here you go backtracking once more.[/quote:ej8efa0s]
True draco can actually play calamities with another archetype like dinos. Again MD has a completely different banlist and format. Haven't you seen people complaining about MD recently about the banlist? Most people have a problem with the floodgates like Order being legal and other cards that should be banned. Plus ND is a best of 1 which makes decks who play floodgates better.

Plus I literally said the same thing I said on page one as this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention.

Unchained has a pretty goud grind game if played correctly I don't see how that is not the case. Again Unchained is a control deck.[/quote:ej8efa0s]

True Draco doesn't mix with other archtypes bruh. Not saying there isn't synergy with Dinos because the True Draco Field Spell would allow baby dinos to go off, but 99.999999999999% of the time True Draco is run by itself and isn't combined with anything.

And you believe you know True Draco lmao

Then you bring up Order being legal, but it's almost like you forgot Order was legal in the TCG for the longest time and its ban is only recent. Also the banlist was the OCG banlist of a past format, but that doesn't change the fact that decks at their core STILL operate the same way as they did.

Also in a best of 1, it isn't about who plays floodgates better, it's about Player 1 setting up an unbreakable board and Player 2 either break the board or lose the game. If it goes past turn 4, then it's about who controls the tempo of the game. Almost like in Bo3 format what a shocker!

Also again you backtrack after revealing the truth on why you say "this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention." when afterwards you stated I was acting like it'd be Top Tier, but in my post it never was like that.

Also no, Unchained isn't good at the grind game. To be good at the grind game, you have to not only maintain advantage, but also gain advantage by slowing the game state down to a crawl. The deck cannot do that. It doesn't matter how "good" you are, the deck inherently can't do this.

[quote="Sound4":brgqze5u][quote="DarwisBellium92":brgqze5u]It is still history that Unchained is what a meta?
But when has that archetype ever been meta, even since it came out of those set booster.
L'Unchained IS ONLY AN EXTENDER LINK ONLY!

END OF THE STORY![/quote:brgqze5u]
I thought you left and were done with this thread? Seems like that is not the case.[/quote:brgqze5u]
No, the victim is you who do not get into your head of what others say, you are just a retard and stop with this story that Unchained is competitive. Bruh.

[quote="DarwisBellium92":i160l1vg][quote="Sound4":i160l1vg][quote="DarwisBellium92":i160l1vg]It is still history that Unchained is what a meta?
But when has that archetype ever been meta, even since it came out of those set booster.
L'Unchained IS ONLY AN EXTENDER LINK ONLY!

END OF THE STORY![/quote:i160l1vg]
I thought you left and were done with this thread? Seems like that is not the case.[/quote:i160l1vg]
No, the victim is you who do not get into your head of what others say, you are just a retard and stop with this story that Unchained is competitive. Bruh.[/quote:i160l1vg]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.

[quote="Sound4":zfm9wozu][quote="DarwisBellium92":zfm9wozu][quote="Sound4":zfm9wozu]
I thought you left and were done with this thread? Seems like that is not the case.[/quote:zfm9wozu]
No, the victim is you who do not get into your head of what others say, you are just a retard and stop with this story that Unchained is competitive. Bruh.[/quote:zfm9wozu]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.[/quote:zfm9wozu]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.

[quote="greg503":xt3diluo][quote="Sound4":xt3diluo][quote="DarwisBellium92":xt3diluo]
No, the victim is you who do not get into your head of what others say, you are just a retard and stop with this story that Unchained is competitive. Bruh.[/quote:xt3diluo]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.[/quote:xt3diluo]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.[/quote:xt3diluo]
Only in Rouge/forfun format

[quote="Sound4":13wtpfzg][quote="DarwisBellium92":13wtpfzg][quote="Sound4":13wtpfzg]
I thought you left and were done with this thread? Seems like that is not the case.[/quote:13wtpfzg]
No, the victim is you who do not get into your head of what others say, you are just a retard and stop with this story that Unchained is competitive. Bruh.[/quote:13wtpfzg]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.[/quote:13wtpfzg]
But when you fucking break... I only speak with Greg503 and Renji, you are worth nothing.

[quote="DarwisBellium92":3llthfiu][quote="greg503":3llthfiu][quote="Sound4":3llthfiu]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.[/quote:3llthfiu]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.[/quote:3llthfiu]
Only in Rouge/forfun format[/quote:3llthfiu]
Rogue implies it'd see competitive play, but isn't as strong as T1 or T2 decks.

That's always been the case. So you are wrong once more.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2pnraqpc][quote="DarwisBellium92":2pnraqpc][quote="greg503":2pnraqpc]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.[/quote:2pnraqpc]
Only in Rouge/forfun format[/quote:2pnraqpc]
Rogue implies it'd see competitive play, but isn't as strong as T1 or T2 decks.

That's always been the case. So you are wrong once more.[/quote:2pnraqpc]
I know the format difference

[quote="DarwisBellium92":1jjs3bdd][quote="Renji Asuka":1jjs3bdd][quote="DarwisBellium92":1jjs3bdd]
Only in Rouge/forfun format[/quote:1jjs3bdd]
Rogue implies it'd see competitive play, but isn't as strong as T1 or T2 decks.

That's always been the case. So you are wrong once more.[/quote:1jjs3bdd]
I know the format difference[/quote:1jjs3bdd]
I just realized, I was really tired when I posted that and I thought that was from Sound4....fml

[quote="Renji Asuka":21sa26ql][quote="DarwisBellium92":21sa26ql][quote="Renji Asuka":21sa26ql]
Rogue implies it'd see competitive play, but isn't as strong as T1 or T2 decks.

That's always been the case. So you are wrong once more.[/quote:21sa26ql]
I know the format difference[/quote:21sa26ql]
I just realized, I was really tired when I posted that and I thought that was from Sound4....fml[/quote:21sa26ql]
Ah

Anyway, Sound4 = retard

[quote="greg503":3tp1t6a2][quote="Sound4":3tp1t6a2][quote="DarwisBellium92":3tp1t6a2]
No, the victim is you who do not get into your head of what others say, you are just a retard and stop with this story that Unchained is competitive. Bruh.[/quote:3tp1t6a2]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.[/quote:3tp1t6a2]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.[/quote:3tp1t6a2]
It takes a good pilot to beat top decks yes.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2zoysi7k][quote="DarwisBellium92":2zoysi7k][quote="greg503":2zoysi7k]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.[/quote:2zoysi7k]
Only in Rouge/forfun format[/quote:2zoysi7k]
Rogue implies it'd see competitive play, but isn't as strong as T1 or T2 decks.

That's always been the case. So you are wrong once more.[/quote:2zoysi7k]
It takes a good pilot to beat top decks yes.

[quote="Renji Asuka":29gvj9xu][quote="Sound4":29gvj9xu][quote="Renji Asuka":29gvj9xu]

And here is where you fail once again showing your insane amount of lack of knowledge in yugioh.

The deck's mechanics and how they operate are the same. Unchained still plays like it does in the OCG/TCG. There is only a tiny difference with floodgates and hand traps, but at the core the decks are the same and play the same way. That is why you'll always be wrong in this situation. Now if I compared it with Duel Links, you'd be correct since the rules for that game are vastly different.

"Again no one plays True draco in TCG competitivelu or even in locals."

Uhhhh....LMAO, yeah okay buddy. Fun fact True Draco inherently CANNOT PLAY Calamity. You are showing your lack of knowledge of an archetype. No True Draco monster that is ran is a level 9. Ignis is level 5, Dinomight is level 6, Majesty Maiden is level 5, Dreiath is level 6, Master Peace is level 8 (which is fun fact, banned in Master Duel), Metaltron XII is level 9 but NO TRUE DRACO RUNS IT.

"Plus activating something like a floodgate like Skill drain or gozen match on its own is bad."

Bruh, when Skill Drain flips up, it's always going to be in response to a person's monster effect, it won't be flipped up willy nilly. Also implying Gozen Match is being played isn't really effective as most combos can go off under 1 attribute. Now if you mentioned Rivalry, then it'd realistically powerful against decks when Zombie World is up.

"The way I was beating those top decks is what makes it impressive."

No it doesn't. Again EVERY DECK CAN BEAT ANOTHER EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. End of story.

"Again the Deck us a control deck not a combo deck plus in the grind game it is actually pretty good if played correctly."

It cannot grind as well as True Draco. Hell even Burning Abyss in 2022 can do a better grind game than your Trash Unchained deck.

"I was saying that this support will ist likely not put Dark world in top tier contention so don't be disappointed when the Deck is still not good."

And here you go backtracking once more.[/quote:29gvj9xu]
True draco can actually play calamities with another archetype like dinos. Again MD has a completely different banlist and format. Haven't you seen people complaining about MD recently about the banlist? Most people have a problem with the floodgates like Order being legal and other cards that should be banned. Plus ND is a best of 1 which makes decks who play floodgates better.

Plus I literally said the same thing I said on page one as this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention.

Unchained has a pretty goud grind game if played correctly I don't see how that is not the case. Again Unchained is a control deck.[/quote:29gvj9xu]

True Draco doesn't mix with other archtypes bruh. Not saying there isn't synergy with Dinos because the True Draco Field Spell would allow baby dinos to go off, but 99.999999999999% of the time True Draco is run by itself and isn't combined with anything.

And you believe you know True Draco lmao

Then you bring up Order being legal, but it's almost like you forgot Order was legal in the TCG for the longest time and its ban is only recent. Also the banlist was the OCG banlist of a past format, but that doesn't change the fact that decks at their core STILL operate the same way as they did.

Also in a best of 1, it isn't about who plays floodgates better, it's about Player 1 setting up an unbreakable board and Player 2 either break the board or lose the game. If it goes past turn 4, then it's about who controls the tempo of the game. Almost like in Bo3 format what a shocker!

Also again you backtrack after revealing the truth on why you say "this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention." when afterwards you stated I was acting like it'd be Top Tier, but in my post it never was like that.

Also no, Unchained isn't good at the grind game. To be good at the grind game, you have to not only maintain advantage, but also gain advantage by slowing the game state down to a crawl. The deck cannot do that. It doesn't matter how "good" you are, the deck inherently can't do this.[/quote:29gvj9xu]
Yes but in MD order and Skill drain are legal making floodgates insanely OP at that point and since it is a beat of 1 people don't have enough deck space to run S/T removal so no wonder True draco seems really good in MD but in the TCG no there are many outs to true draco.

Plus in MD it is very different than the TCG in MD there are so many FTKs which many people have been complaining about. MD is very different than the TCG. Here is a video on that. I recommend watching it as it will really help.
https://youtu.be/Og5OGmzAg1o

Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before.

[quote="Sound4":168jm54w][quote="greg503":168jm54w][quote="Sound4":168jm54w]
When did I say Unchained was competitive? I said it was rogue. I recommend reading my replies on Unchained before commenting.[/quote:168jm54w]
Rouge is competitive enough to see play, but not meta enough to see widespread use. So yes, you did say Unchained is competitive.[/quote:168jm54w]
It takes a good pilot to beat top decks yes.[/quote:168jm54w]
Which is why I'm a good pilot

[quote="Sound4":aqehovr8][quote="Renji Asuka":aqehovr8][quote="Sound4":aqehovr8]
True draco can actually play calamities with another archetype like dinos. Again MD has a completely different banlist and format. Haven't you seen people complaining about MD recently about the banlist? Most people have a problem with the floodgates like Order being legal and other cards that should be banned. Plus ND is a best of 1 which makes decks who play floodgates better.

Plus I literally said the same thing I said on page one as this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention.

Unchained has a pretty goud grind game if played correctly I don't see how that is not the case. Again Unchained is a control deck.[/quote:aqehovr8]

True Draco doesn't mix with other archtypes bruh. Not saying there isn't synergy with Dinos because the True Draco Field Spell would allow baby dinos to go off, but 99.999999999999% of the time True Draco is run by itself and isn't combined with anything.

And you believe you know True Draco lmao

Then you bring up Order being legal, but it's almost like you forgot Order was legal in the TCG for the longest time and its ban is only recent. Also the banlist was the OCG banlist of a past format, but that doesn't change the fact that decks at their core STILL operate the same way as they did.

Also in a best of 1, it isn't about who plays floodgates better, it's about Player 1 setting up an unbreakable board and Player 2 either break the board or lose the game. If it goes past turn 4, then it's about who controls the tempo of the game. Almost like in Bo3 format what a shocker!

Also again you backtrack after revealing the truth on why you say "this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention." when afterwards you stated I was acting like it'd be Top Tier, but in my post it never was like that.

Also no, Unchained isn't good at the grind game. To be good at the grind game, you have to not only maintain advantage, but also gain advantage by slowing the game state down to a crawl. The deck cannot do that. It doesn't matter how "good" you are, the deck inherently can't do this.[/quote:aqehovr8]
Yes but in MD order and Skill drain are legal making floodgates insanely OP at that point and since it is a beat of 1 people don't have enough deck space to run S/T removal so no wonder True draco seems really good in MD but in the TCG no there are many outs to true draco.

Plus in MD it is very different than the TCG in MD there are so many FTKs which many people have been complaining about. MD is very different than the TCG. Here is a video on that. I recommend watching it as it will really help.
https://youtu.be/Og5OGmzAg1o

Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before.[/quote:aqehovr8]

And guess what, SKill Drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG just like in MD. Imperial Order ban was only recent. Which makes your point on that moot.

Then you start talking about FTKs but you think its because of the banlist in master duel, but it's actually cause its Bo1 format and those decks that are FTKs are funnily enough Legal even in the TCG and OCG.

Then you bring up "Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before."

2 Things wrong with this, I didn't bring up that they were META, it was actually "DarwisBellium92" as they brought it up first on page 1. 2nd you been showing that you have 0 knowledge on Dark Worlds which is why I brought up that historically speaking they were META on page 2, which in that SAME POST I stated "And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?"

It's almost like you ignore and create a fantasy inside your head just to argue. Man you really are pathetic.

Holy shit this has been over 100 posts?

[quote="greg503":148xt0qe]Holy shit this has been over 100 posts?[/quote:148xt0qe]
He should had just taken the L and stopped posting honestly after he was called out the first time.

Shouldn't have 6 pages of arguing to begin with.

[quote="Renji Asuka":3rmy3upk][quote="Sound4":3rmy3upk][quote="Renji Asuka":3rmy3upk]

True Draco doesn't mix with other archtypes bruh. Not saying there isn't synergy with Dinos because the True Draco Field Spell would allow baby dinos to go off, but 99.999999999999% of the time True Draco is run by itself and isn't combined with anything.

And you believe you know True Draco lmao

Then you bring up Order being legal, but it's almost like you forgot Order was legal in the TCG for the longest time and its ban is only recent. Also the banlist was the OCG banlist of a past format, but that doesn't change the fact that decks at their core STILL operate the same way as they did.

Also in a best of 1, it isn't about who plays floodgates better, it's about Player 1 setting up an unbreakable board and Player 2 either break the board or lose the game. If it goes past turn 4, then it's about who controls the tempo of the game. Almost like in Bo3 format what a shocker!

Also again you backtrack after revealing the truth on why you say "this support most likely won't put Dark world into top tier contention." when afterwards you stated I was acting like it'd be Top Tier, but in my post it never was like that.

Also no, Unchained isn't good at the grind game. To be good at the grind game, you have to not only maintain advantage, but also gain advantage by slowing the game state down to a crawl. The deck cannot do that. It doesn't matter how "good" you are, the deck inherently can't do this.[/quote:3rmy3upk]
Yes but in MD order and Skill drain are legal making floodgates insanely OP at that point and since it is a beat of 1 people don't have enough deck space to run S/T removal so no wonder True draco seems really good in MD but in the TCG no there are many outs to true draco.

Plus in MD it is very different than the TCG in MD there are so many FTKs which many people have been complaining about. MD is very different than the TCG. Here is a video on that. I recommend watching it as it will really help.
https://youtu.be/Og5OGmzAg1o

Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before.[/quote:3rmy3upk]

And guess what, SKill Drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG just like in MD. Imperial Order ban was only recent. Which makes your point on that moot.

Then you start talking about FTKs but you think its because of the banlist in master duel, but it's actually cause its Bo1 format and those decks that are FTKs are funnily enough Legal even in the TCG and OCG.

Then you bring up "Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before."

2 Things wrong with this, I didn't bring up that they were META, it was actually "DarwisBellium92" as they brought it up first on page 1. 2nd you been showing that you have 0 knowledge on Dark Worlds which is why I brought up that historically speaking they were META on page 2, which in that SAME POST I stated "And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?"

It's almost like you ignore and create a fantasy inside your head just to argue. Man you really are pathetic.[/quote:3rmy3upk]
Skill drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG yes but in MD Skill drain and order are even more powerful because it is a best of 1.

There are literally FTKS in MD which many people have been complaining about and how the banlist didn't fix that. Like the ignite FTK.

I actually did research on Dark world and mentioned the weaknesses how this support will most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention. Plus you say you are good True draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament ournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently. If you really think True draco is better than Unchained.

[quote="Sound4":2jnnzcai][quote="Renji Asuka":2jnnzcai][quote="Sound4":2jnnzcai]
Yes but in MD order and Skill drain are legal making floodgates insanely OP at that point and since it is a beat of 1 people don't have enough deck space to run S/T removal so no wonder True draco seems really good in MD but in the TCG no there are many outs to true draco.

Plus in MD it is very different than the TCG in MD there are so many FTKs which many people have been complaining about. MD is very different than the TCG. Here is a video on that. I recommend watching it as it will really help.
https://youtu.be/Og5OGmzAg1o

Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before.[/quote:2jnnzcai]

And guess what, SKill Drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG just like in MD. Imperial Order ban was only recent. Which makes your point on that moot.

Then you start talking about FTKs but you think its because of the banlist in master duel, but it's actually cause its Bo1 format and those decks that are FTKs are funnily enough Legal even in the TCG and OCG.

Then you bring up "Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before."

2 Things wrong with this, I didn't bring up that they were META, it was actually "DarwisBellium92" as they brought it up first on page 1. 2nd you been showing that you have 0 knowledge on Dark Worlds which is why I brought up that historically speaking they were META on page 2, which in that SAME POST I stated "And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?"

It's almost like you ignore and create a fantasy inside your head just to argue. Man you really are pathetic.[/quote:2jnnzcai]
Skill drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG yes but in MD Skill drain and order are even more powerful because it is a best of 1.

There are literally FTKS in MD which many people have been complaining about and how the banlist didn't fix that. Like the ignite FTK.

I actually did research on Dark world and mentioned the weaknesses how this support will most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention. Plus you say you are good True draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament ournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently. If you really think True draco is better than Unchained.[/quote:2jnnzcai]
Well, for one, the deck has had cards on the banlist, Unchained never has.

Why aim ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY at Unchained as a Deck?!

There are better ones in the Rouge format or similar.

You are staring too much for an archetype (aka L'Unchained) that is not even taken into consideration and very weak AT ALL.

C'mon...

[quote="Sound4":2hzim7mz][quote="Renji Asuka":2hzim7mz][quote="Sound4":2hzim7mz]
Yes but in MD order and Skill drain are legal making floodgates insanely OP at that point and since it is a beat of 1 people don't have enough deck space to run S/T removal so no wonder True draco seems really good in MD but in the TCG no there are many outs to true draco.

Plus in MD it is very different than the TCG in MD there are so many FTKs which many people have been complaining about. MD is very different than the TCG. Here is a video on that. I recommend watching it as it will really help.
https://youtu.be/Og5OGmzAg1o

Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before.[/quote:2hzim7mz]

And guess what, SKill Drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG just like in MD. Imperial Order ban was only recent. Which makes your point on that moot.

Then you start talking about FTKs but you think its because of the banlist in master duel, but it's actually cause its Bo1 format and those decks that are FTKs are funnily enough Legal even in the TCG and OCG.

Then you bring up "Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before."

2 Things wrong with this, I didn't bring up that they were META, it was actually "DarwisBellium92" as they brought it up first on page 1. 2nd you been showing that you have 0 knowledge on Dark Worlds which is why I brought up that historically speaking they were META on page 2, which in that SAME POST I stated "And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?"

It's almost like you ignore and create a fantasy inside your head just to argue. Man you really are pathetic.[/quote:2hzim7mz]
Skill drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG yes but in MD Skill drain and order are even more powerful because it is a best of 1.

There are literally FTKS in MD which many people have been complaining about and how the banlist didn't fix that. Like the ignite FTK.

I actually did research on Dark world and mentioned the weaknesses how this support will most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention. Plus you say you are good True draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament ournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently. If you really think True draco is better than Unchained.[/quote:2hzim7mz]
You do realize that Duelingbook also has best of 1 right? That's a format I specialize in. I also don't like facing the same person twice in a row. So once again Unchained operates the same on Duelingbook as it does on Master Duel.

The FTKs in Master Duel can still operate in Duelingbook. So FTKs are not a factor, and never will be.

Also no you didn't mention any weaknesses or do any research about Dark Worlds, as I had to tell you the weaknesses of the actual deck because you had no idea what you were talking about. I even told you about how they were META since that became the focus of your argument, then you revealed why through your imaginary bullshit.

"Plus you say you are good True Draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently." I don't need to prove this to you by joining a tournament I get nothing out of. You're playing a worse deck than True Draco, everyone else but you will agree that True Draco is better.

The only reason people are running Igknight FTK in Master Duel is because it's "budget" and is linear enough to be botable. It has almost no necessary SR or UR cards to function.

[quote="Renji Asuka":fvgjbyv9][quote="Sound4":fvgjbyv9][quote="Renji Asuka":fvgjbyv9]

And guess what, SKill Drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG just like in MD. Imperial Order ban was only recent. Which makes your point on that moot.

Then you start talking about FTKs but you think its because of the banlist in master duel, but it's actually cause its Bo1 format and those decks that are FTKs are funnily enough Legal even in the TCG and OCG.

Then you bring up "Yes you were acting like this support will put Dark world into top tier contention especially when you were mentioning that they were meta before."

2 Things wrong with this, I didn't bring up that they were META, it was actually "DarwisBellium92" as they brought it up first on page 1. 2nd you been showing that you have 0 knowledge on Dark Worlds which is why I brought up that historically speaking they were META on page 2, which in that SAME POST I stated "And since I play the deck IRL, the fact that my deck IS getting support, a deck I have played since Elemental Energy. Do you really think I would even remotely care if the new Structure Deck for them was META or not?"

It's almost like you ignore and create a fantasy inside your head just to argue. Man you really are pathetic.[/quote:fvgjbyv9]
Skill drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG yes but in MD Skill drain and order are even more powerful because it is a best of 1.

There are literally FTKS in MD which many people have been complaining about and how the banlist didn't fix that. Like the ignite FTK.

I actually did research on Dark world and mentioned the weaknesses how this support will most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention. Plus you say you are good True draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament ournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently. If you really think True draco is better than Unchained.[/quote:fvgjbyv9]
You do realize that Duelingbook also has best of 1 right? That's a format I specialize in. I also don't like facing the same person twice in a row. So once again Unchained operates the same on Duelingbook as it does on Master Duel.

The FTKs in Master Duel can still operate in Duelingbook. So FTKs are not a factor, and never will be.

Also no you didn't mention any weaknesses or do any research about Dark Worlds, as I had to tell you the weaknesses of the actual deck because you had no idea what you were talking about. I even told you about how they were META since that became the focus of your argument, then you revealed why through your imaginary bullshit.

"Plus you say you are good True Draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently." I don't need to prove this to you by joining a tournament I get nothing out of. You're playing a worse deck than True Draco, everyone else but you will agree that True Draco is better.[/quote:fvgjbyv9]
Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it.

The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.

Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta.

Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid.

[quote="greg503":26pp4h1l]The only reason people are running Igknight FTK in Master Duel is because it's "budget" and is linear enough to be botable. It has almost no necessary SR or UR cards to function.[/quote:26pp4h1l]
Correct but still very good and why people want changes.

[quote="Sound4":wbqjsb5k]The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.[/quote:wbqjsb5k]
No, they don't work as well because IRL people not only have less patience to play against an FTK player, and on DB the ladder isn't reliant on rarity, most players aren't going to craft all the handtraps or negates going first to stop FTKs. Igknight FTK works just as well in the TCG, perhaps better due to the lack of Maxx "C". You don't even know how bad you are at arguing

[quote="Sound4":zrc9p51n][quote="Renji Asuka":zrc9p51n][quote="Sound4":zrc9p51n]
Skill drain is at 3 in the TCG and OCG yes but in MD Skill drain and order are even more powerful because it is a best of 1.

There are literally FTKS in MD which many people have been complaining about and how the banlist didn't fix that. Like the ignite FTK.

I actually did research on Dark world and mentioned the weaknesses how this support will most likely not put Dark world into top tier contention. Plus you say you are good True draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament ournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently. If you really think True draco is better than Unchained.[/quote:zrc9p51n]
You do realize that Duelingbook also has best of 1 right? That's a format I specialize in. I also don't like facing the same person twice in a row. So once again Unchained operates the same on Duelingbook as it does on Master Duel.

The FTKs in Master Duel can still operate in Duelingbook. So FTKs are not a factor, and never will be.

Also no you didn't mention any weaknesses or do any research about Dark Worlds, as I had to tell you the weaknesses of the actual deck because you had no idea what you were talking about. I even told you about how they were META since that became the focus of your argument, then you revealed why through your imaginary bullshit.

"Plus you say you are good True Draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently." I don't need to prove this to you by joining a tournament I get nothing out of. You're playing a worse deck than True Draco, everyone else but you will agree that True Draco is better.[/quote:zrc9p51n]
Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it.

The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.

Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta.

Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid.[/quote:zrc9p51n]
"Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it."

Non argument, you can say this literally about ANY CARD. NEXT

"The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games."

I already commented on this, you're making another non argument. NEXT.

"Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta."

I already explained how you were wrong. The fact you think droplet's matters against dark worlds is hilarious. NEXT.

"Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid."

Not really, I get NOTHING out of DB Tournaments, why would I waste time in one? It's the same bullshit argument of "Oh if your deck is so good, why don't you beat me". It's a weak argument and doesn't prove anything. The last time a person did this argument to me, they got their ass kicked.

You get shit like this: then followed up by and they even know I run JD in the side and I asked if we could side before I did and they said sure. On the other hand, I could had ended up bricking and they'd brag about how my deck is trash, which would be out of my hands. It's pointless and stupid.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1r46ik29][quote="Sound4":1r46ik29][quote="Renji Asuka":1r46ik29]
You do realize that Duelingbook also has best of 1 right? That's a format I specialize in. I also don't like facing the same person twice in a row. So once again Unchained operates the same on Duelingbook as it does on Master Duel.

The FTKs in Master Duel can still operate in Duelingbook. So FTKs are not a factor, and never will be.

Also no you didn't mention any weaknesses or do any research about Dark Worlds, as I had to tell you the weaknesses of the actual deck because you had no idea what you were talking about. I even told you about how they were META since that became the focus of your argument, then you revealed why through your imaginary bullshit.

"Plus you say you are good True Draco pilot then join a DB Live Tournament and show me a duel on DB of beating at least 3 top decks currently." I don't need to prove this to you by joining a tournament I get nothing out of. You're playing a worse deck than True Draco, everyone else but you will agree that True Draco is better.[/quote:1r46ik29]
Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it.

The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.

Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta.

Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid.[/quote:1r46ik29]
"Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it."

Non argument, you can say this literally about ANY CARD. NEXT

"The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games."

I already commented on this, you're making another non argument. NEXT.

"Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta."

I already explained how you were wrong. The fact you think droplet's matters against dark worlds is hilarious. NEXT.

"Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid."

Not really, I get NOTHING out of DB Tournaments, why would I waste time in one? It's the same bullshit argument of "Oh if your deck is so good, why don't you beat me". It's a weak argument and doesn't prove anything. The last time a person did this argument to me, they got their ass kicked.

You get shit like this: then followed up by and they even know I run JD in the side and I asked if we could side before I did and they said sure. On the other hand, I could had ended up bricking and they'd brag about how my deck is trash, which would be out of my hands. It's pointless and stupid.[/quote:1r46ik29]
People know Eldlich is a deck that run a lot of floodgates and many people prepare for that.

You did comment on it a bit but didn't prove wrong my point.

Droplet does matter against dark world plus Dark work does not have any interactions with the meta.

In the DB tournaments you get a dono code and plus actually show me whether Tru draco us actually good as you have yet to prove that. You don't have the proof to support your claim while I do.

[quote="greg503":3gxh15g7][quote="Sound4":3gxh15g7]The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.[/quote:3gxh15g7]
No, they don't work as well because IRL people not only have less patience to play against an FTK player, and on DB the ladder isn't reliant on rarity, most players aren't going to craft all the handtraps or negates going first to stop FTKs. Igknight FTK works just as well in the TCG, perhaps better due to the lack of Maxx "C". You don't even know how bad you are at arguing[/quote:3gxh15g7]
The Igknight FTK does not work as well since the TCG has a completely different format and banlist. Plus a lot of people are playing a lot of handraps which makes the opponent even being able to pull off the FTK is unlikely.

[quote="Sound4":3ghzu7ef][quote="Renji Asuka":3ghzu7ef][quote="Sound4":3ghzu7ef]
Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it.

The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.

Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta.

Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid.[/quote:3ghzu7ef]
"Yes I know but floodgates isn't really seen that much or just doesn't work that well since players know how to play around it."

Non argument, you can say this literally about ANY CARD. NEXT

"The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games."

I already commented on this, you're making another non argument. NEXT.

"Yes I did mention weaknesses of the Deck like droplet and how it doesn't have any interactions with the current meta."

I already explained how you were wrong. The fact you think droplet's matters against dark worlds is hilarious. NEXT.

"Your last sentence basically proves that you say stuff with no evidence. Without the evidence to support what you are saying it makes your point invalid."

Not really, I get NOTHING out of DB Tournaments, why would I waste time in one? It's the same bullshit argument of "Oh if your deck is so good, why don't you beat me". It's a weak argument and doesn't prove anything. The last time a person did this argument to me, they got their ass kicked.

You get shit like this: then followed up by and they even know I run JD in the side and I asked if we could side before I did and they said sure. On the other hand, I could had ended up bricking and they'd brag about how my deck is trash, which would be out of my hands. It's pointless and stupid.[/quote:3ghzu7ef]
People know Eldlich is a deck that run a lot of floodgates and many people prepare for that.

You did comment on it a bit but didn't prove wrong my point.

Droplet does matter against dark world plus Dark work does not have any interactions with the meta.

In the DB tournaments you get a dono code and plus actually show me whether Tru draco us actually good as you have yet to prove that. You don't have the proof to support your claim while I do.[/quote:3ghzu7ef]
"People know Eldlich is a deck that run a lot of floodgates and many people prepare for that."

Okay and? You're only reinforcing my point.

"You did comment on it a bit but didn't prove wrong my point."

It's almost like you didn't even bother trying the D.D. Dynamite FTK in the TCG....or any FTK...

"Droplet does matter against dark world plus Dark work does not have any interactions with the meta."

Considering you don't read anything, Droplet's doesn't bother Dark Worlds. Want to know why? Their effects are in the GY. The only thing you'd be touching is the extra deck, which pending on the variant will likely not matter, especially when Dark Worlds break boards as they make plays. I told you this already and I shouldn't have to tell you a 2nd time. You're wrong here, end of story.

"In the DB tournaments you get a dono code and plus actually show me whether Tru draco us actually good as you have yet to prove that. You don't have the proof to support your claim while I do."

A dono code means nothing to me. Hell I have an Injection Fairy Lily profile pic that can't be used by anyone anymore since it was removed, but because I didn't change my profile pic I got to keep it. So it's almost like it's a perma dono.

The only tournaments I'd care about are Konami sponsored ones. Tournaments on DB mean literally nothing to me.

[quote="Sound4":32u1i42a][quote="greg503":32u1i42a][quote="Sound4":32u1i42a]The FTKS in MD don't work as well in the TCG for reasons like the format and banlist are different. If there was an FTK in the TCG people would be complaining about it who play single games.[/quote:32u1i42a]
No, they don't work as well because IRL people not only have less patience to play against an FTK player, and on DB the ladder isn't reliant on rarity, most players aren't going to craft all the handtraps or negates going first to stop FTKs. Igknight FTK works just as well in the TCG, perhaps better due to the lack of Maxx "C". You don't even know how bad you are at arguing[/quote:32u1i42a]
The Igknight FTK does not work as well since the TCG has a completely different format and banlist. Plus a lot of people are playing a lot of handraps which makes the opponent even being able to pull off the FTK is unlikely.[/quote:32u1i42a]
Almost like people have less access to handtraps in Master Duel, but for those who do, the FTK is much less consistent. Almost like this is how almost every FTK in the game has been, a gimmick. Igknight FTK sucks, it only gained popularity thanks to Tainted Wisdom. In short L + ratio + Unchained goes 0-3 drop at any locals

[quote="greg503":7h0vmhk7][quote="Sound4":7h0vmhk7][quote="greg503":7h0vmhk7]
No, they don't work as well because IRL people not only have less patience to play against an FTK player, and on DB the ladder isn't reliant on rarity, most players aren't going to craft all the handtraps or negates going first to stop FTKs. Igknight FTK works just as well in the TCG, perhaps better due to the lack of Maxx "C". You don't even know how bad you are at arguing[/quote:7h0vmhk7]
The Igknight FTK does not work as well since the TCG has a completely different format and banlist. Plus a lot of people are playing a lot of handraps which makes the opponent even being able to pull off the FTK is unlikely.[/quote:7h0vmhk7]
Almost like people have less access to handtraps in Master Duel, but for those who do, the FTK is much less consistent. Almost like this is how almost every FTK in the game has been, a gimmick. Igknight FTK sucks, it only gained popularity thanks to Tainted Wisdom. In short L + ratio + Unchained goes 0-3 drop at any locals[/quote:7h0vmhk7]
The Handraps that are available aren't that good in MD since Called by is at 2. Plus there is not much other reason to play other handraps when Maxx c is the best one. It isn't bad or else popular YouTubers would not be complaining about it.

[quote="Sound4":2oyvh4sa][quote="greg503":2oyvh4sa][quote="Sound4":2oyvh4sa]
The Igknight FTK does not work as well since the TCG has a completely different format and banlist. Plus a lot of people are playing a lot of handraps which makes the opponent even being able to pull off the FTK is unlikely.[/quote:2oyvh4sa]
Almost like people have less access to handtraps in Master Duel, but for those who do, the FTK is much less consistent. Almost like this is how almost every FTK in the game has been, a gimmick. Igknight FTK sucks, it only gained popularity thanks to Tainted Wisdom. In short L + ratio + Unchained goes 0-3 drop at any locals[/quote:2oyvh4sa]
The Handraps that are available aren't that good in MD since Called by is at 2. Plus there is not much other reason to play other handraps when Maxx c is the best one. It isn't bad or else popular YouTubers would not be complaining about it.[/quote:2oyvh4sa]

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