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Downloading Replays for Masters Project

Post #1 by Apples the Hero » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:41 pm

I'm researching making an AI player for yugioh for my master's project and duelingbook replays would be a very useful source of data to train the AI on. However, I noticed that replays are protected against bots by recaptcha - are replays not to be used this way, or could I be allowed to bypass the recaptcha to get data for my research?

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Post #2 by Genexwrecker » Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:57 pm

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Post #3 by Christen57 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:20 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:No


Why not make it so you don't need to solve a captcha to view a replay as long as the replay is at least a month old? The only reason this captcha was implemented in the first place was to keep people from cheating in tournaments by using bots to sift through opponents' most recent replays to see what decks they were playing. After a month, it should no longer matter if a bot can access a certain replay, as the tournament that replay was recorded in should be long over by then.

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Post #4 by DarwisBellium92 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:33 pm

Apples the Hero wrote:I'm researching making an AI player for yugioh for my master's project and duelingbook replays would be a very useful source of data to train the AI on. However, I noticed that replays are protected against bots by recaptcha - are replays not to be used this way, or could I be allowed to bypass the recaptcha to get data for my research?

Dude, Duelingbook only wants real users. AI and CPU Players let YGOpro and Konami decide, thank you.
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Post #5 by JQLIFICE » Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:10 pm

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Apples the Hero wrote:I'm researching making an AI player for yugioh for my master's project and duelingbook replays would be a very useful source of data to train the AI on. However, I noticed that replays are protected against bots by recaptcha - are replays not to be used this way, or could I be allowed to bypass the recaptcha to get data for my research?

Dude, Duelingbook only wants real users. AI and CPU Players let YGOpro and Konami decide, thank you.

they never claimed, that they wanted that AI to play on duelingbook. the possibilities of having an AI playing meta decks at near perfect levels would be insanely helpful for competitive players for practicing. if i had the choice id play in a duel the AI mode all the time instead of rated

@judges/DBstaff, maybe you can have a collaboration with OP? they provide the AI after finishing their thesis and you get to implement it on your site? sound like a win/win to me

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Post #6 by DarwisBellium92 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:18 pm

JQLIFICE wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Apples the Hero wrote:I'm researching making an AI player for yugioh for my master's project and duelingbook replays would be a very useful source of data to train the AI on. However, I noticed that replays are protected against bots by recaptcha - are replays not to be used this way, or could I be allowed to bypass the recaptcha to get data for my research?

Dude, Duelingbook only wants real users. AI and CPU Players let YGOpro and Konami decide, thank you.

they never claimed, that they wanted that AI to play on duelingbook. the possibilities of having an AI playing meta decks at near perfect levels would be insanely helpful for competitive players for practicing. if i had the choice id play in a duel the AI mode all the time instead of rated

@judges/DBstaff, maybe you can have a collaboration with OP? they provide the AI after finishing their thesis and you get to implement it on your site? sound like a win/win to me

Dude, you didn't get the concept: I hate AI on any medium, both in art and in Yugioh.
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Post #7 by JQLIFICE » Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:25 pm

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
JQLIFICE wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:Dude, Duelingbook only wants real users. AI and CPU Players let YGOpro and Konami decide, thank you.

they never claimed, that they wanted that AI to play on duelingbook. the possibilities of having an AI playing meta decks at near perfect levels would be insanely helpful for competitive players for practicing. if i had the choice id play in a duel the AI mode all the time instead of rated

@judges/DBstaff, maybe you can have a collaboration with OP? they provide the AI after finishing their thesis and you get to implement it on your site? sound like a win/win to me

Dude, you didn't get the concept: I hate AI on any medium, both in art and in Yugioh.


'I hate X so noone can like it' nice argument, explains why something shouldnt be implemented :)
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Post #8 by Apples the Hero » Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:03 pm

To clarify, I'm not making a bot to play on dueling book, there just doesn't exist any other extensive collection of easy to use replay data. The AI will be made to work with EDOPro's existing AI support.

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Post #9 by DarwisBellium92 » Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:35 pm

JQLIFICE wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:
JQLIFICE wrote:they never claimed, that they wanted that AI to play on duelingbook. the possibilities of having an AI playing meta decks at near perfect levels would be insanely helpful for competitive players for practicing. if i had the choice id play in a duel the AI mode all the time instead of rated

@judges/DBstaff, maybe you can have a collaboration with OP? they provide the AI after finishing their thesis and you get to implement it on your site? sound like a win/win to me

Dude, you didn't get the concept: I hate AI on any medium, both in art and in Yugioh.


'I hate X so noone can like it' nice argument, explains why something shouldnt be implemented :)
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I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

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Post #10 by Lil Oldman » Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:19 pm

I love when they make a great gutting of some flawed argument and they just go bye. It's so funny for some reason.
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Post #11 by DarwisBellium92 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:30 am

Lil Oldman wrote:I love when they make a great gutting of some flawed argument and they just go bye. It's so funny for some reason.

Cringe level 100, literally
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Post #12 by Lil Oldman » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:07 am

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:I love when they make a great gutting of some flawed argument and they just go bye. It's so funny for some reason.

Cringe level 100, literally

I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

Bye~
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Post #13 by Renji Asuka » Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:21 am

Apples the Hero wrote:To clarify, I'm not making a bot to play on dueling book, there just doesn't exist any other extensive collection of easy to use replay data. The AI will be made to work with EDOPro's existing AI support.

You were told no. So, it's a no.
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Post #14 by DarwisBellium92 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:35 am

Lil Oldman wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:I love when they make a great gutting of some flawed argument and they just go bye. It's so funny for some reason.

Cringe level 100, literally

I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

Bye~
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Post #15 by Renji Asuka » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:32 pm

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:Cringe level 100, literally

I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

Bye~

Grow you, fake adult

Seriously, if you're going to insult people work on that English of yours. Otherwise it makes you look really stupid.
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Post #16 by DarwisBellium92 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:40 pm

Renji Asuka wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

Bye~

Grow you, fake adult

Seriously, if you're going to insult people work on that English of yours. Otherwise it makes you look really stupid.

Stay relax, you are very irascible.~
You take potassium bromine
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Post #17 by Renji Asuka » Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:42 pm

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:Grow you, fake adult

Seriously, if you're going to insult people work on that English of yours. Otherwise it makes you look really stupid.

Stay relax, you are very irascible.~
You take potassium bromine

And this right here, is what I'm talking about.
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Post #18 by Lil Oldman » Thu Nov 10, 2022 4:17 pm

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:Cringe level 100, literally

I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

Bye~

Grow you, fake adult

Stay relax, you are very irascible.~
You take potassium bromine
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Post #19 by DarwisBellium92 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:02 pm

Lil Oldman wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:I don't speak the language of time wasters and trolls like you!

Bye~

Grow you, fake adult

Stay relax, you are very irascible.~
You take potassium bromine
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Post #20 by greg503 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:22 pm

DarwisBellium92 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
DarwisBellium92 wrote:Grow you, fake adult

Stay relax, you are very irascible.~
You take potassium bromine

Its not mature and fun of you to parrot with people when something is serious.

If you want to be taken seriously, write fluently, whatever language you use
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