I Only Play Water Decks wrote:Renji Asuka wrote:I Only Play Water Decks wrote:
"wanted to bl able to control speech"
Do you mean respecting pronouns? Cuz its really not hard to do.
You mean forcing me (for instance) to give into the delusions of the mentally ill? Do you not realize how dangerous that is? Imagine giving in to the delusions of a schizophrenic, odds are you'd end up in a very dangerous situation or the person in question. The same can be said for those who have gender dysphoria. Especially if no pushback is allowed.
There is a minor group within the minor group of the trans community who are shunned by the trans community because they detransitioned. They realized they weren't pushed back enough. Yet the Trans community constantly pushes their ideology onto children effectively grooming them.
I can bring up many examples of this happening and I guarantee you'd call me transphobic after this conversation. Hell just look at the suicide rates of those who are trans. It isn't "society's fault" that they do decide to kill themselves, it's the fact they are mentally ill. I'm not saying there are not people out there that won't commit violence towards trans people, just the fact that odds are they have some form of depression that gets to be too much for them. Gender Dysphoria is already a chemical imbalance then adding depression on top of that, it's no wonder that trans community end up killing themselves.
How about instead of, oh I don't know, transitioning people, we look for REAL solutions to the problem like you would with any other mental illness.
The "hate" towards trans people these days aren't about the fact that the person is trans, but that the LGBTQ+ is pushing their toxic ideology on children. The LGBTQ+ community seems to (for whatever reason) want to prey on children. It doesn't help that their community is riddled with pedophiles and yet the community doesn't out them. It doesn't help that the community is indoctrinating children IN SCHOOLS which indoctrination is illegal FYI. There's a reason why public school teachers weren't allowed to teach children religion or push their religious beliefs onto children. Yet these days, it's perfectly fine? Sorry you don't get to talk to a child about adult topics or bring them to adult settings. At that point it's child abuse.
You'll probably deny all of this though or try to dismiss it, despite it being an actual problem. Hell, I can make a bet that you don't support Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill".
Is this satire? Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people. Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse?????? This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay. Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in. aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans".
It's almost like you're deliberately misrepresenting what I have stated while also showing you can't handle an actual conversation. In your mind you inherently believe you are right. That only your view is acceptable. So let's break down how stupid your response is.
1: "Is this satire?"
A pathetic attempt at trying to rationalize an opposing view point that fits against your incorrect world view.
2: "Like all you are saying "Lgbtq = pedophilia" which it doesn't because pedophilia can be done by straight people."
Never stated that, if you're going to quote someone do it properly. This is clearly an attempt at tearing down an argument in a dishonest way. Just like how you tried to misrepresent what Genexwrecker stated.
3: "Aswell what you're complaining about is educating young children at a young age about lgbtq is child abuse??????"
It's almost like you don't know that children are impressionable. If a child isn't allowed to pick their bed time, perhaps adult topics are not appropriate for children. Would you entertain a child's fantasy of being Luke Skywalker wanting their arm chopped off? No? By pushing trans ideology on children, that is exactly what you're encouraging. The human brain doesn't stop developing until around the age of 25. To push these ideologies onto a child that encourages children to "transition" for instance is always a bad idea as they don't grasp the long term consequences unlike how an adult can. Otherwise you'd effectively chemically castrate them or physically castrate them. Most people don't like child mutilation. There's a reason why a lot of people don't like circumcision or female mutilated genitalia.
4: "This is some bullshit because where i am we learned about lgbtq topics at grade 4, we however did not learn that dating an adult is okay because its gay."
Wait, did you just say that gays are pedophiles? Wuuuuut? Oh didn't like that response? Perhaps you shouldn't be intellectually dishonest. Also using anecdote with very vague information doesn't make for a strong case.
5: "Aswell you're complaining about "Pushing religious beliefs on children" but if you don't educate children on topics like lgbtq and just say "they're bad" isn't that literally pushing religious beliefs on children? "
You really should work on your reading comprehension. Where did I "complain" about "pushing religious beliefs on children"? It's almost like you actually can't be honest. Bringing up religion the way I did was to make a point of something teachers are not allowed to do when it comes to indoctrination.
6: "educating children gives them more education and gives them a better view on what they choose to believe in."
Learn the difference between indoctrination and education. That's not even going into the stupidity of this statement by itself. Children shouldn't "choose" to believe in an ideology that is fantasy. They need to have strong understanding of reality. I can bring up a ton of examples of indoctrination occurring in schools when it comes to LGBTQ+ related stuff. And that's not even an example from bias doctors on what medication they prescribe to their patients.
7: " aswell your first point is literally "its not society fault that someone killed themself even though people constantly judge them, physically and verbally harass them, make laws to give them less rights, and many more reasons. But again its not their fault. Its the trans person's fault for being trans"."
Which you conveniently ignore the fact that Gender Dysphoria is classified as a mental illness. You also conveniently ignore the rest of my post because you have no actual response.
Effectively your entire response is "waaah waaaah! You're Transphobic and Homophobic! Waaaah waaaah!". So my advice to you is, if you can't talk about topics like this without getting all pissy, you should stay out of said topics.