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Re: Shadowbanning without telling us?

Post #21 by GayNProud » Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:18 am

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PENMASTER wrote:i do a wee bit of trolling and its never backfired on me, so I wonder what you're doing to get shadowbanned.

a small bit of trolling here and there is good fun I post fun trolly status updates from time to time to bond with the community as a judge. now consistantly trolling to ruin a communication feature or the feel of the website is a different story.


It was not as frequent or egregious as you are making it sound to be. If anything, my "trolly" main menu posts are not different than the 90% of the post that you will see if you open DB's main menu at any given moment: trolling. I said things such as "My boyfriend is annoying", "X is hot", "Mystic Mine is the best deck", etc. I literally only said extra stuff a few times here and there, clearly light heatedly.

Having said that, I am remorseful of the times that I posted inappropriate stuff. Even though my intentions were never bad or serious, intention does not justify impact. And I have been punished for this for what it seems to be over 5 months now, without my knowledge.

Can this be reversed, now, or sometime in the future?

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Post #22 by Christen57 » Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:23 am

GayNProud wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:
PENMASTER wrote:i do a wee bit of trolling and its never backfired on me, so I wonder what you're doing to get shadowbanned.

a small bit of trolling here and there is good fun I post fun trolly status updates from time to time to bond with the community as a judge. now consistantly trolling to ruin a communication feature or the feel of the website is a different story.


It was not as frequent or egregious as you are making it sound to be. If anything, my "trolly" main menu posts are not different than the 90% of the post that you will see if you open DB's main menu at any given moment: trolling. I said things such as "My boyfriend is annoying", "X is hot", "Mystic Mine is the best deck", etc. I literally only said extra stuff a few times here and there, clearly light heatedly.

Having said that, I am remorseful of the times that I posted inappropriate stuff. Even though my intentions were never bad or serious, intention does not justify impact. And I have been punished for this for what it seems to be over 5 months now, without my knowledge.

Can this be reversed, now, or sometime in the future?


My advice to you (and to anyone else) is, do not intentionally post any troll content on the main menu, whether they're different than that 90% or not.
I don't care if Genexwrecker said "a small bit of trolling here and there is good". There's a mighty thin line between an acceptable, and an unacceptable, amount of trolling, and that line is so blurry and easy to accidentally cross that it's not worth the risk. You chose to run the unnecessary risk of crossing that line and getting shadowbanned, and now we see that the risk didn't pay off.

It doesn't matter if you see 90%, or whatever percent, of other people posting bad stuff on the main menu. You do not have to follow that crowd. Just because some of them were lucky enough to not get caught doesn't mean you'll be as lucky.

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Post #23 by apocralyph » Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:31 am

So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal

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Post #24 by Genexwrecker » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:21 am

its not something we handle or generally discuss
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Post #25 by GayNProud » Sun Jul 10, 2022 3:41 pm

apocralyph wrote:So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal


This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.

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Post #26 by PENMASTER » Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:44 pm

the plot thickens
if this is true then this little system of not being told punishments nor their reasons and for how long will backfire and has without any way to defend oneself from this backfire
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Post #27 by Renji Asuka » Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:52 pm

GayNProud wrote:
apocralyph wrote:So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal


This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.

Tell me you don't know what a nazi is without telling me...

Also DuelingBook can ban you for literally any reason if they wanted. FYI, all services that have the ability to ban you is very much like a dictatorship.
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Post #28 by Christen57 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:52 am

GayNProud wrote:
apocralyph wrote:So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal


This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.


You were told why you were shadowbanned. You posted spammy trolly stuff on the main menu for no valid reason and crossed the line I mentioned earlier.

As for apocralyph, I'm sure he knows what he posted on the main menu that might've gotten him shadowbanned, so he needs to come forward and confess that.

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Post #29 by PENMASTER » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:05 am

who needs tv when we got all this spicy drama and mystery right here
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Post #30 by Lil Oldman » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:48 am

Screw disney, uts all about the petty drama
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Post #31 by apocralyph » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:03 am

Christen57 wrote:
GayNProud wrote:
apocralyph wrote:So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal


This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.


You were told why you were shadowbanned. You posted spammy trolly stuff on the main menu for no valid reason and crossed the line I mentioned earlier.

As for apocralyph, I'm sure he knows what he posted on the main menu that might've gotten him shadowbanned, so he needs to come forward and confess that.

uh no, i dont know why i was banned, i was previously (wrongfully) banned during one of the VPN sweeps they did, and i got that appealed, then i was shadowbanned and when i asked why, Kittytrouble couldnt tell me who had shadowbanned me, why, for how long, or what rule i broke, mind you ive appealed this 4 times now and they have said they are no longer responding to my appeals.

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Post #32 by apocralyph » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:09 am

Christen57 wrote:
GayNProud wrote:
apocralyph wrote:So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal


This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.


You were told why you were shadowbanned. You posted spammy trolly stuff on the main menu for no valid reason and crossed the line I mentioned earlier.

As for apocralyph, I'm sure he knows what he posted on the main menu that might've gotten him shadowbanned, so he needs to come forward and confess that.

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Post #33 by apocralyph » Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:17 am

Christen57 wrote:
GayNProud wrote:
apocralyph wrote:So i got shadowbanned, put in an appeal and asked why, the response i got back from Kittytrouble was "idk" i asked how long it would last: "Idk" i asked who shadowbanned me "idk" i asked if i could appeal it "No"
So i was shadowbanned, they dont know who why or when, but i cannot appeal


This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.


You were told why you were shadowbanned. You posted spammy trolly stuff on the main menu for no valid reason and crossed the line I mentioned earlier.

As for apocralyph, I'm sure he knows what he posted on the main menu that might've gotten him shadowbanned, so he needs to come forward and confess that.

if i got shadowbanned for a legit reason, genexwrecker, kittytrouble, lantern, feel free to drop it in the replies, id like to know as much as these guys

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Post #34 by PENMASTER » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:56 pm

now there is proof floating around so lets see how they respond
I knew something like this would happen eventually
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Post #35 by GayNProud » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:35 pm

Yeah, please let the judges respond to this. I understand that some players here like to respond in lieu of the judges to remind us all to take accountability and not blame our problems on the judges, but we would like a response from the judging team this time around.

Even the worst offenders on the website (which I am not even remotely close to being one) know when they are punished, are told you, and for how long. The "Rules" section of DuelingBook writes out clearly the types of infractions and their associated punishments.

Why are we being singled out?

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Post #36 by Christen57 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:06 am

apocralyph wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
GayNProud wrote:
This, along with Genexwrecker's response to you, are at the heart of my post. How is it okay for the judges to issue a punishment on players without letting them know why, when, how, and how long, and no path to obtain this information or appeal? That is some Nazi level stuff right there.


You were told why you were shadowbanned. You posted spammy trolly stuff on the main menu for no valid reason and crossed the line I mentioned earlier.

As for apocralyph, I'm sure he knows what he posted on the main menu that might've gotten him shadowbanned, so he needs to come forward and confess that.

uh no, i dont know why i was banned, i was previously (wrongfully) banned during one of the VPN sweeps they did, and i got that appealed, then i was shadowbanned and when i asked why, Kittytrouble couldnt tell me who had shadowbanned me, why, for how long, or what rule i broke, mind you ive appealed this 4 times now and they have said they are no longer responding to my appeals.

PENMASTER wrote:now there is proof floating around so lets see how they respond
I knew something like this would happen eventually

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Genexwrecker wrote:its not something we handle or generally discuss


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Apocralyph, you spent over a year flooding the main menu with a bunch of trolly spammy low-effort low-quality garbage.

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That's 19 out of your 22 posts on the main menu that were nothing but stupid spammy trolling foolishness.

Yet you continue to play dumb acting like you have no clue why you could've been shadowbanned and how your behavior on the main menu was deemed unacceptable.

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Post #37 by PENMASTER » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:10 am

i would only really consider 13 to be actually just stupid and trolly to where it isn't funny but its more than enough to deal the killing blow
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Post #38 by Genexwrecker » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:16 am

why quote me >.>
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Post #39 by PENMASTER » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:17 am

Genexwrecker wrote:why quote me >.>

why not
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Post #40 by Christen57 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:21 am

Genexwrecker wrote:why quote me >.>


So you can agree he was shadowbanned for a valid reason by looking at these spammy posts of his I shared and see how they're all low-effort low-quality posts.


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