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Re: Why 11,350 Cards? How do I make sense of it?

Post #41 by BoomerDuels » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:42 pm

Renji Asuka wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:There's a reason why some players played through Maxx "C" cause they knew they could win that turn.

Card Advantage while important, it is not the end all be all.


Well ye but this dude said it was less important than life points

That's because Life Point management is very important especially since you can lose to time in tournaments.



Aight lmao


There is no way you are saying winning in time > card advantage

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Post #42 by Renji Asuka » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:05 pm

BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
Well ye but this dude said it was less important than life points

That's because Life Point management is very important especially since you can lose to time in tournaments.



Aight lmao


There is no way you are saying winning in time > card advantage

You can have 15 cards in hand and still lose to time lmao
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Post #43 by greg503 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 pm

BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
Well ye but this dude said it was less important than life points

That's because Life Point management is very important especially since you can lose to time in tournaments.



Aight lmao


There is no way you are saying winning in time > card advantage

Winning doesn't care about how many cards you're holding
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Post #44 by BoomerDuels » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:48 pm

greg503 wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:That's because Life Point management is very important especially since you can lose to time in tournaments.



Aight lmao


There is no way you are saying winning in time > card advantage

Winning doesn't care about how many cards you're holding



Lol you really don't knpow what you are talking bout huh?
Card Advantage id perhaps the most important thing

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Post #45 by Renji Asuka » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:04 pm

BoomerDuels wrote:
greg503 wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:

Aight lmao


There is no way you are saying winning in time > card advantage

Winning doesn't care about how many cards you're holding



Lol you really don't knpow what you are talking bout huh?
Card Advantage id perhaps the most important thing

Lol

Maxx "C" challenge would like to have a word with you.
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Post #46 by BoomerDuels » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:39 am

Renji Asuka wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
greg503 wrote:Winning doesn't care about how many cards you're holding



Lol you really don't knpow what you are talking bout huh?
Card Advantage id perhaps the most important thing

Lol

Maxx "C" challenge would like to have a word with you.


Are you actually going to say that winning in time > Card advantage tho

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Post #47 by Renji Asuka » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:45 am

BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:

Lol you really don't knpow what you are talking bout huh?
Card Advantage id perhaps the most important thing

Lol

Maxx "C" challenge would like to have a word with you.


Are you actually going to say that winning in time > Card advantage tho

What I'm saying is, Maxx "C" is the perfect example that you can draw all the cards you want and still lose. Whether by Life Points or by Time.
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Post #48 by greg503 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:20 am

BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:

Lol you really don't knpow what you are talking bout huh?
Card Advantage id perhaps the most important thing

Lol

Maxx "C" challenge would like to have a word with you.


Are you actually going to say that winning in time > Card advantage tho

Pot of Desires/Extrav draw into additional copies of them, or worse, Garnets. I'd rather be neutral with Prosperity to look at 1 or 4 extra cards and find something USEFUL.
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Post #49 by BoomerDuels » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:40 am

greg503 wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:Lol

Maxx "C" challenge would like to have a word with you.


Are you actually going to say that winning in time > Card advantage tho

Pot of Desires/Extrav draw into additional copies of them, or worse, Garnets. I'd rather be neutral with Prosperity to look at 1 or 4 extra cards and find something USEFUL.



The consistency and card advantage that desires gives you outeighs the drawback of potentially drawing into more copies of desires

Think of it this way
You either
A) Activate desires - It gets ashes - 1 for 1 deal
B) Activate desires - It doesnt get negated - 1 for 2

You are guaranteed to go +1
You are not guaranteed to draw garnets

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Post #50 by greg503 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:04 am

BoomerDuels wrote:
greg503 wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
Are you actually going to say that winning in time > Card advantage tho

Pot of Desires/Extrav draw into additional copies of them, or worse, Garnets. I'd rather be neutral with Prosperity to look at 1 or 4 extra cards and find something USEFUL.



The consistency and card advantage that desires gives you outeighs the drawback of potentially drawing into more copies of desires

Think of it this way
You either
A) Activate desires - It gets ashes - 1 for 1 deal
B) Activate desires - It doesnt get negated - 1 for 2

You are guaranteed to go +1
You are not guaranteed to draw garnets

In Magic, a mechanic called scry allows you to look at the top of your deck and stack it, putting cards you don't want to the bottom. They generally put 2 scrys on the same level as drawing 1. This is because it is important to have relevant cards at your disposal. Prosperity allows to look at up to 6 cards, and draw 1 of them, making it 4 cards in value if not negated, compared to Desires' 2. Don't measure a card's value solely on how plus it allows you to go, otherwise, Ojamagic would be meta.
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Post #51 by BoomerDuels » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:06 am

greg503 wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:
greg503 wrote:Pot of Desires/Extrav draw into additional copies of them, or worse, Garnets. I'd rather be neutral with Prosperity to look at 1 or 4 extra cards and find something USEFUL.



The consistency and card advantage that desires gives you outeighs the drawback of potentially drawing into more copies of desires

Think of it this way
You either
A) Activate desires - It gets ashes - 1 for 1 deal
B) Activate desires - It doesnt get negated - 1 for 2

You are guaranteed to go +1
You are not guaranteed to draw garnets

In Magic, a mechanic called scry allows you to look at the top of your deck and stack it, putting cards you don't want to the bottom. They generally put 2 scrys on the same level as drawing 1. This is because it is important to have relevant cards at your disposal. Prosperity allows to look at up to 6 cards, and draw 1 of them, making it 4 cards in value if not negated, compared to Desires' 2. Don't measure a card's value solely on how plus it allows you to go, otherwise, Ojamagic would be meta.


I never said Desires is better than prosperity
But it is not a bad card like you say it is

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Post #52 by greg503 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:45 pm

BoomerDuels wrote:
greg503 wrote:
BoomerDuels wrote:

The consistency and card advantage that desires gives you outeighs the drawback of potentially drawing into more copies of desires

Think of it this way
You either
A) Activate desires - It gets ashes - 1 for 1 deal
B) Activate desires - It doesnt get negated - 1 for 2

You are guaranteed to go +1
You are not guaranteed to draw garnets

In Magic, a mechanic called scry allows you to look at the top of your deck and stack it, putting cards you don't want to the bottom. They generally put 2 scrys on the same level as drawing 1. This is because it is important to have relevant cards at your disposal. Prosperity allows to look at up to 6 cards, and draw 1 of them, making it 4 cards in value if not negated, compared to Desires' 2. Don't measure a card's value solely on how plus it allows you to go, otherwise, Ojamagic would be meta.


I never said Desires is better than prosperity
But it is not a bad card like you say it is

I never said it was bad, I said it was "worse than." But I guess we both had a bit of a misunderstanding...
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