ITT: I fix YGO

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ITT: I fix YGO

Post #1 by BadAtYGO » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:05 am

Changes only


Newly Forbidden:
Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring
Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow
Dandylion
Droll & Lock Bird
Fairy Tail - Snow
Gamiciel, the Sea Turtle Kaiju
Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit
Inzektor Hornet
Maxx "C"
Neptabyss, the Atlantean Prince
SPYRAL Sleeper
Wind-Up Hunter
Evigishki Gustkraken
Evigishki Mind Augus
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier
Psy-Frame Lord Omega
Bahamut Shark
Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird
Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale
Masked HERO Dark Law
Firewall Dragon
SPYRAL Double Helix

Divine Wind of Mist Valley
Final Countdown
Gateway of the Six
Infernity Launcher
Interrupted Kaiju Slumber
Limiter Removal
One Day of Peace
Raigeki
Rekindling
Pot of Desires
Soul Charge
Symbols of Heritage
That Grass Looks Greener
Zoodiac Barrage

Crush Card Virus
Deck Devestation Virus
Eradicator Epidemic Virus
Evenly Matched
Full Force Virus
Imperial Order
Magical Explosion
Skill Drain

Newly Restricted:
Aliester the Invoker
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Blue-Eyes Alternative White Dragon
Dark Armed Dragon
Elemental HERO Stratos
Harmonising Magician
Mermail Abyssmegalo
Mezuki
Morphing Jar
Morphing Jar #2
Performage Damage Juggler
Shurit, Strategist of the Nekroz

El-Shaddoll Construct

Cosmic Cyclone
Charge of the Light Brigade
Dragonic Diagram
Duelist Alliance
Fire Formation - Tenki
Terraforming
Twin Twisters
Left Arm Offering

Solemn Judgement
Solemn Strike

Newly Semi-Restricted:

Dimensional Fissure

Bottomless Trap Hole
Torrential Tribute

Newly Unrestricted:
Card Trooper
Genex Ally Birdman
Inzektor Dragonfly
Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Mathematician
SPYRAL Drone
SPYRAL Quik-Fix
Thunder King Rai-Oh
Wind-Up Magician

Preparation of Rites

Ceasefire

Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity

Willing to explain all of my card choices, may have missed a couple of cards.

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Post #2 by Snowy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:39 am

Mind if I ask why Harmonizing to 1?

I mean, I know: once it's in the extra deck: it's dead. However, it's highly searchable with stuff like Wavering Eyes, Star Pendulumgraph, Pend. Call, Skullcrobat Joker, ect... Also, it's also be able to recycled off of cards like Amazing Pendulum, Oafdragon Magician, and Timestar Magician: as well as the upcoming Heavymetalfoe Electrum.

Plus, all you need is 1 Harmonizing Magician to open up a XYZ or Sync play: preferably Timestar to combo with Trap Graph. I'm not criticizing or anything: some of these hits make sense (Although I wish you explain the Kaijus, as they are a inherit neg 1.)

If you could explain the hit of Harmonizing Magician instead of other key cards like Astrograph Sorcerer, Wisdom-Eye Magician, ect...

Please and thank you.

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Post #3 by Wobbu » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:46 am

BadAtYGO wrote:Changes only


Newly Forbidden:
Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring Hand traps are necessary to be in the game right now.
Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow It's fine at 1
Dandylion This accomplishes nothing
Droll & Lock Bird Hand traps are necessary to be in the game right now.
Fairy Tail - Snow Annoying but not ban worthy.
Gamiciel, the Sea Turtle Kaiju Kaijus are necessary to get over certain cards.
Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit Hands traps thing I said before
Inzektor Hornet It and Dragonfly should be at 3.
Maxx "C" This is the only hand trap that legitimately ends your opponent's turn. It should be banned.
Neptabyss, the Atlantean Prince No
SPYRAL Sleeper Unnecessary hit. There are other cards that should be hit first, like Double Helix and Resort.
Wind-Up Hunter Yes if Zenmaity is unbanned.
Evigishki Gustkraken No
Evigishki Mind Augus No
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier I don't even understand you
Psy-Frame Lord Omega 1 is fine
Bahamut Shark Pointless in Links era
Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird Pointless but I understand
Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale Pointless
Masked HERO Dark Law Pointless
Firewall Dragon Its the main character's ace so it will never be banned. It may go to 1, but even that's unlikely.
SPYRAL Double Helix Hopefully

Divine Wind of Mist Valley Pointless
Final Countdown Pointless but I hate it too
Gateway of the Six It just came off the list and has done nothing.
Infernity Launcher Pointless
Interrupted Kaiju Slumber Pointless
Limiter Removal I don't understand
One Day of Peace Pointless
Raigeki Its not a problem
Rekindling Pointless but I'll admit it's a poorly designed card
Pot of Desires Ash exists for a reason
Soul Charge Pointless
Symbols of Heritage Pointless
That Grass Looks Greener Pointless
Zoodiac Barrage Zoo is already dead

Crush Card Virus Pointless
Deck Devestation Virus Pointless
Eradicator Epidemic Virus Pointless
Evenly Matched Pointless
Full Force Virus Pointless
Imperial Order Pointless
Magical Explosion Pointless
Skill Drain Annoying but it isn't doing anything

Newly Restricted:
Aliester the Invoker No reason to kill the deck
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning What did BLS ever do to you
Blue-Eyes Alternative White Dragon Hasn't been good for like a year
Dark Armed Dragon Already at 1
Elemental HERO Stratos Like that'll happen
Harmonising Magician The deck is completely fair and balanced, especially with the new rules.
Mermail Abyssmegalo Merlanteans haven't been good for years
Mezuki The card is fair and isn't doing anything at 3
Morphing Jar No
Morphing Jar #2 No
Performage Damage Juggler Fair
Shurit, Strategist of the Nekroz Fair

El-Shaddoll Construct Fair

Cosmic Cyclone No
Charge of the Light Brigade Are you stupid or something
Dragonic Diagram Pointless
Duelist Alliance The deck is fair
Fire Formation - Tenki Why tho
Terraforming Fair
Twin Twisters No
Left Arm Offering It was only good in one deck that has since been killed.

Solemn Judgement It should stay banned
Solemn Strike Just makes it a sacky card.

Newly Semi-Restricted:

Dimensional Fissure Ehh

Bottomless Trap Hole Fair
Torrential Tribute Fair

Newly Unrestricted:
Card Trooper Fair
Genex Ally Birdman Should stay at 1 because it allows self bouncing
Inzektor Dragonfly Hornet should be here too
Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer Fair
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole Fair
Mathematician Fair
SPYRAL Drone Should stay at 1
SPYRAL Quik-Fix Should stay at 1
Thunder King Rai-Oh Fair
Wind-Up Magician Fair

Preparation of Rites Fair

Ceasefire Fair

Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity Fair with Hunter banned

Willing to explain all of my card choices, may have missed a couple of cards.

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Post #4 by BadAtYGO » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:25 pm

Wobbu wrote:Willing to explain all of my card choices, may have missed a couple of cards.

I see your name describes you well.[/quote]

le epic maymay im so funni xddddddddddddd

its clearly a fantasy list dude
also i missed a bunch of cards like grinder and master piss

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Post #5 by Christen57 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:22 am

Wobbu wrote:
BadAtYGO wrote:Changes only


Newly Forbidden:
Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring Hand traps are necessary to be in the game right now.
Blackwing - Gofu the Vague Shadow It's fine at 1
Dandylion This accomplishes nothing
Droll & Lock Bird Hand traps are necessary to be in the game right now.
Fairy Tail - Snow Annoying but not ban worthy.
Gamiciel, the Sea Turtle Kaiju Kaijus are necessary to get over certain cards.
Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit Hands traps thing I said before
Inzektor Hornet It and Dragonfly should be at 3.
Maxx "C" This is the only hand trap that legitimately ends your opponent's turn. It should be banned.
Neptabyss, the Atlantean Prince No
SPYRAL Sleeper Unnecessary hit. There are other cards that should be hit first, like Double Helix and Resort.
Wind-Up Hunter Yes if Zenmaity is unbanned.
Evigishki Gustkraken No
Evigishki Mind Augus No
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier I don't even understand you
Psy-Frame Lord Omega 1 is fine
Bahamut Shark Pointless in Links era
Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bombardment Bird Pointless but I understand
Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale Pointless
Masked HERO Dark Law Pointless
Firewall Dragon Its the main character's ace so it will never be banned. It may go to 1, but even that's unlikely.
SPYRAL Double Helix Hopefully

Divine Wind of Mist Valley Pointless
Final Countdown Pointless but I hate it too
Gateway of the Six It just came off the list and has done nothing.
Infernity Launcher Pointless
Interrupted Kaiju Slumber Pointless
Limiter Removal I don't understand
One Day of Peace Pointless
Raigeki Its not a problem
Rekindling Pointless but I'll admit it's a poorly designed card
Pot of Desires Ash exists for a reason
Soul Charge Pointless
Symbols of Heritage Pointless
That Grass Looks Greener Pointless
Zoodiac Barrage Zoo is already dead

Crush Card Virus Pointless
Deck Devestation Virus Pointless
Eradicator Epidemic Virus Pointless
Evenly Matched Pointless
Full Force Virus Pointless
Imperial Order Pointless
Magical Explosion Pointless
Skill Drain Annoying but it isn't doing anything

Newly Restricted:
Aliester the Invoker No reason to kill the deck
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning What did BLS ever do to you
Blue-Eyes Alternative White Dragon Hasn't been good for like a year
Dark Armed Dragon Already at 1
Elemental HERO Stratos Like that'll happen
Harmonising Magician The deck is completely fair and balanced, especially with the new rules.
Mermail Abyssmegalo Merlanteans haven't been good for years
Mezuki The card is fair and isn't doing anything at 3
Morphing Jar No
Morphing Jar #2 No
Performage Damage Juggler Fair
Shurit, Strategist of the Nekroz Fair

El-Shaddoll Construct Fair

Cosmic Cyclone No
Charge of the Light Brigade Are you stupid or something
Dragonic Diagram Pointless
Duelist Alliance The deck is fair
Fire Formation - Tenki Why tho
Terraforming Fair
Twin Twisters No
Left Arm Offering It was only good in one deck that has since been killed.

Solemn Judgement It should stay banned
Solemn Strike Just makes it a sacky card.

Newly Semi-Restricted:

Dimensional Fissure Ehh

Bottomless Trap Hole Fair
Torrential Tribute Fair

Newly Unrestricted:
Card Trooper Fair
Genex Ally Birdman Should stay at 1 because it allows self bouncing
Inzektor Dragonfly Hornet should be here too
Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer Fair
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole Fair
Mathematician Fair
SPYRAL Drone Should stay at 1
SPYRAL Quik-Fix Should stay at 1
Thunder King Rai-Oh Fair
Wind-Up Magician Fair

Preparation of Rites Fair

Ceasefire Fair

Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity Fair with Hunter banned

Willing to explain all of my card choices, may have missed a couple of cards.

I see your name describes you well.


I will copy and paste some of the cards listed in this response and respond to this in light blue color.

Newly Forbidden:
Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring Hand traps are necessary to be in the game right now.
I disagree, I actually want this stupid thing banned as well. It is too powerful in the current meta.

Dandylion This accomplishes nothing
This one is a bit tricky since some people want it banned because the tokens it generates allows it to be abused with link spammy decks. It can also be searched and reused with Lonefire Blossom and Soul Charge respectively.

Droll & Lock Bird Hand traps are necessary to be in the game right now.
Either this, or trickstar reincarnation needs to get hit. That combo is toxic for the metagame.

Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit Hands traps thing I said before
This is probably the only hand trap you listed that could probably stay since it destroys cards but does not outright negate cards, and it can be played around with My Body As A Shield and other Anti-Destruction cards.

Neptabyss, the Atlantean Prince No
If any Atlantean should get hit, it is either Atlantean Marksman and/or Atlantean Heavy Infantry. Either way, I would agree here since Atlanteans are very powerful but are not topping at events for any Atlantean card to get hit.

SPYRAL Sleeper Unnecessary hit. There are other cards that should be hit first, like Double Helix and Resort.
No way, Spyral Sleeper is probably the main reason Spyral is dominating the game. Without Spyral Sleeper, Spyral will barely be able to make any decent boards and will be forced to rely more on traps. Double Helix allows you to make some fancy plays with Spyral Master Plan, but it is not so powerful on its own. Spyral Resort protects from targeting and it searches a card and recycles a card from the graveyard each turn, but it does not need a hit. Spyral Sleeper is the main problem and needs to get banned because it is the only monster that actually activates during the opponents turn while all other Spyral monsters activate during your own turn and are not disruptive.

Masked HERO Dark Law Pointless
I think it should at least go to 1 so then at least people cannot spam multiple Dark Law because Dark Law is actually very powerful and abusable. I think Stratos could come straight back to 3 if either this or Elemental Hero Shadow Mist get hit.

Firewall Dragon Its the main character's ace so it will never be banned. It may go to 1, but even that's unlikely.
This is the most common excuse as to why people do not want Firewall Dragon hit in any way, and it is also the absolute worst, and most fallacious excuse as well. Nobody cares if Firewall Dragon belongs to some stupid random anime character. The VRAINS anime is barely even relevant at the moment and Firewall Dragon is already limited in the OCG because of the crazy loops that it does. Please stop using the anime character to justify an unhealthy card that deserves to at least be semi-limited on the next banlist

Interrupted Kaiju Slumber Pointless
I also agree that it is pointless and I don't think this needs to be banned but I suppose people just do not like mass removals anyway.

Pot of Desires Ash exists for a reason
This card would not be so bad if it weren't for stuff like Eater Of Millions, Soul Absorption, and Great Maju De Eza that benefit from having lots of banished cards.

Deck Devestation Virus Pointless
Eradicator Epidemic Virus Pointless
There are alot of Dark attribute decks that can heavily abuse these so I actually want them banned. They cannot stay at 3. Although maybe they could get an errata like Crush Card Virus did.

Evenly Matched Pointless
Nah, this card can wipe entire boards and make you go -10, so it should get at least limited.

Full Force Virus Pointless
No, people hate these stupid mass hand removal board removal all-in-one cards that make you go -10.

Imperial Order Pointless
This one is tricky since even though you can no longer choose to stop paying the cost, you can still abuse it in True Draco decks, Mist Valley Falcon decks, D/D/D Different Dimension Demon decks, as these decks can tribute Imperial Order, bounce it back with Mist Valley Falcon, and negate it temporarily with Cursed King Siegfried. So there are still some ways to make it so that it only hurts your opponent and not you.

SPYRAL Quik-Fix Should stay at 1
This, and Spyral Gear Drone can at least come back to 2, since it is not so powerful and broken as long as it is not abused with Machine Duplication and Spyral Sleeper is banned. I would rather have Spyral be able to change the order of your cards with Drone and search cards with Quik-Fix and go +5 on turn one than have them make a nearly-unbreakable board of Decode Talker and Spyral Sleeper with Last Resort equipped on it destroying 2 of your cards each turn for free and Spyral Resort protecting from targeting.

Every other card that I did not list such as Thunder King Rai Oh is what I agree with you on.

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Post #6 by james111 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:17 pm

I re fixed it

Newly Forbidden:
Wind-Up Hunter

Newly Restricted:
Dark Armed Dragon
Harmonising Magician
Mermail Abyssmegalo
Morphing Jar
Performage Damage Juggler
El-Shaddoll Construct

Newly Semi-Restricted:

Morphing Jar #2
Firewall Dragon

Dimensional Fissure

Bottomless Trap Hole
Torrential Tribute

Solemn Judgement

Newly Unrestricted:
Pot of Greed
Card Trooper
Genex Ally Birdman
Inzektor Dragonfly
Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Mathematician
SPYRAL Drone
SPYRAL Quik-Fix
Thunder King Rai-Oh
Wind-Up Magician

Preparation of Rites

Ceasefire

Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity

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Post #7 by james111 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:17 pm

I re fixed it

Newly Forbidden:
Wind-Up Hunter
Denko Sekka

Newly Restricted:
Every Single Baby Dragon Ruler
Dark Armed Dragon
Morphing Jar
Performage Damage Juggler
El-Shaddoll Construct

Newly Semi-Restricted:

Morphing Jar #2
Firewall Dragon
Every Single Dragon Ruler

Dimensional Fissure

Bottomless Trap Hole
Torrential Tribute

Solemn Judgement

Newly Unrestricted:
Pot of Greed
Card Trooper
Genex Ally Birdman
Inzektor Dragonfly
Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Mathematician
SPYRAL Drone
SPYRAL Quik-Fix
Thunder King Rai-Oh
Wind-Up Magician

Preparation of Rites

Ceasefire

Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity


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