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Re: Blackwing Support in Darkwing blast

Post #21 by Slitina » Sat May 14, 2022 12:20 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:do I even have to say how insulting that is?
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Post #22 by Fredblade » Sat May 14, 2022 3:32 pm

greg503 wrote:
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AnimeMasterDub wrote:We could ask the same question about red dragon archfiend. Why is he called Red Dragon Archfiend if he doesn't fit with the Archfiend archetype?


Because Archfiend in the original language is literally "Demon" so its actual name should be "Red Dragon Demon". But because religious censorship they can't use words like "Hell" and "Demon" so they localized the archetype "Demon" as "Archfiend"

Also, the original Signer Dragons weren't supposed be archetypal cards, that's why none of them had mentions of the signer's archetypes because the dragons were independent of the deck the signer used. And that's why nowadays Konami has to make clunky support to shoe in these cards into their archetypes.

Well, that's why the "Red" archetype exists, and yes that does make all Red-Eyes cards part of it too, Speedroid moment


"Red" was introduced in Arc V and it was made specifically for the retrain of Red Dragon Archfiend and even still they don't mention it as an archetype, they support any "Level 8 DARK Dragon Synchro monster". And the "Red" archetype has no support cards that mention "Red" as an archetype, only in the anime, so in reality is just a resonator dark dragon synchro deck.

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Post #23 by AnimeMasterDub » Sun May 15, 2022 8:30 am

Fredblade wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:Exactly, why is Black-Winged Dragon not a "Blackwing" card?

We could ask the same question about red dragon archfiend. Why is he called Red Dragon Archfiend if he doesn't fit with the Archfiend archetype?


Because Archfiend in the original language is literally "Demon" so its actual name should be "Red Dragon Demon". But because religious censorship they can't use words like "Hell" and "Demon" so they localized the archetype "Demon" as "Archfiend"

Also, the original Signer Dragons weren't supposed be archetypal cards, that's why none of them had mentions of the signer's archetypes because the dragons were independent of the deck the signer used. And that's why nowadays Konami has to make clunky support to shoe in these cards into their archetypes.

If that is the case how come they didn't call it Red Devil Dragon instead?
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Post #24 by Slitina » Sun May 15, 2022 12:20 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Fredblade wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:We could ask the same question about red dragon archfiend. Why is he called Red Dragon Archfiend if he doesn't fit with the Archfiend archetype?


Because Archfiend in the original language is literally "Demon" so its actual name should be "Red Dragon Demon". But because religious censorship they can't use words like "Hell" and "Demon" so they localized the archetype "Demon" as "Archfiend"

Also, the original Signer Dragons weren't supposed be archetypal cards, that's why none of them had mentions of the signer's archetypes because the dragons were independent of the deck the signer used. And that's why nowadays Konami has to make clunky support to shoe in these cards into their archetypes.

If that is the case how come they didn't call it Red Devil Dragon instead?

Red Dragon Archfiend/Red Demons Dragon, if you remember in the anime the dragon itself isn’t a devil it just gained a devil like power through Scar Red Dragon Nova.
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Post #25 by Lil Oldman » Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Fredblade wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:We could ask the same question about red dragon archfiend. Why is he called Red Dragon Archfiend if he doesn't fit with the Archfiend archetype?


Because Archfiend in the original language is literally "Demon" so its actual name should be "Red Dragon Demon". But because religious censorship they can't use words like "Hell" and "Demon" so they localized the archetype "Demon" as "Archfiend"

Also, the original Signer Dragons weren't supposed be archetypal cards, that's why none of them had mentions of the signer's archetypes because the dragons were independent of the deck the signer used. And that's why nowadays Konami has to make clunky support to shoe in these cards into their archetypes.

If that is the case how come they didn't call it Red Devil Dragon instead?

Devil is also one of their dreaded words
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Post #26 by greg503 » Sun May 15, 2022 1:32 pm

Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Fredblade wrote:
Because Archfiend in the original language is literally "Demon" so its actual name should be "Red Dragon Demon". But because religious censorship they can't use words like "Hell" and "Demon" so they localized the archetype "Demon" as "Archfiend"

Also, the original Signer Dragons weren't supposed be archetypal cards, that's why none of them had mentions of the signer's archetypes because the dragons were independent of the deck the signer used. And that's why nowadays Konami has to make clunky support to shoe in these cards into their archetypes.

If that is the case how come they didn't call it Red Devil Dragon instead?

Devil is also one of their dreaded words

Oh yeah, Red Fiend Dragon
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Post #27 by AnimeMasterDub » Sun May 15, 2022 5:28 pm

Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Fredblade wrote:
Because Archfiend in the original language is literally "Demon" so its actual name should be "Red Dragon Demon". But because religious censorship they can't use words like "Hell" and "Demon" so they localized the archetype "Demon" as "Archfiend"

Also, the original Signer Dragons weren't supposed be archetypal cards, that's why none of them had mentions of the signer's archetypes because the dragons were independent of the deck the signer used. And that's why nowadays Konami has to make clunky support to shoe in these cards into their archetypes.

If that is the case how come they didn't call it Red Devil Dragon instead?

Devil is also one of their dreaded words

not true there are at least 4 cards with devil in their name uncensored
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Post #28 by Fredblade » Sun May 15, 2022 5:54 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:If that is the case how come they didn't call it Red Devil Dragon instead?

Devil is also one of their dreaded words

not true there are at least 4 cards with devil in their name uncensored


There's only 1 card with the literal word Devil in its name and it's Tasmanian Devil and that's because it's not a literal Demon but a reference to the real world creature with the same name. The other 3 are actually Daredevil which is not the same as a literal Devil.

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Post #29 by AnimeMasterDub » Sun May 15, 2022 6:41 pm

Fredblade wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:Devil is also one of their dreaded words

not true there are at least 4 cards with devil in their name uncensored


There's only 1 card with the literal word Devil in its name and it's Tasmanian Devil and that's because it's not a literal Demon but a reference to the real world creature with the same name. The other 3 are actually Daredevil which is not the same as a literal Devil.

Devil is still in the name
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Post #30 by Fredblade » Sun May 15, 2022 8:21 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Fredblade wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:not true there are at least 4 cards with devil in their name uncensored


There's only 1 card with the literal word Devil in its name and it's Tasmanian Devil and that's because it's not a literal Demon but a reference to the real world creature with the same name. The other 3 are actually Daredevil which is not the same as a literal Devil.

Devil is still in the name


Adamancipator Analizer has "Anal" in its name, doesn't mean Konami would use the literal word "Anal" in their names.


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