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Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:26 am
by Lil Oldman
Not that the deck is good, but why not run Gearbreed if you are so adamant on playing Equip Spells

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:39 am
by AnimeMasterDub
Lil Oldman wrote:Not that the deck is good, but why not run Gearbreed if you are so adamant on playing Equip Spells

because there aren't that many fire/gemini monsters in the deck

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:45 am
by Lil Oldman
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:Not that the deck is good, but why not run Gearbreed if you are so adamant on playing Equip Spells

because there aren't that many fire/gemini monsters in the deck

So, you are willing to play a monster that destroys the cards you equip to it, and NOTHING else, but not the card that searches the darn equip spells.

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:23 am
by AnimeMasterDub
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:Not that the deck is good, but why not run Gearbreed if you are so adamant on playing Equip Spells

because there aren't that many fire/gemini monsters in the deck

So, you are willing to play a monster that destroys the cards you equip to it, and NOTHING else, but not the card that searches the darn equip spells.

I don't like using cards if I can't use them to the fullest of their effects it would feel like eating an oreo without eating the cream inside it

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:38 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
original post has been updated
New Deck Goyo

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:36 pm
by greg503
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:Not that the deck is good, but why not run Gearbreed if you are so adamant on playing Equip Spells

because there aren't that many fire/gemini monsters in the deck

So, you are willing to play a monster that destroys the cards you equip to it, and NOTHING else, but not the card that searches the darn equip spells.

"Searches" by replacing your draw, which isn't the best given that you would both want a monster capable of using the Equip Spell to search one, and that you might draw an Equip for turn anyways

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 5:31 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
greg503 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:because there aren't that many fire/gemini monsters in the deck

So, you are willing to play a monster that destroys the cards you equip to it, and NOTHING else, but not the card that searches the darn equip spells.

"Searches" by replacing your draw, which isn't the best given that you would both want a monster capable of using the Equip Spell to search one, and that you might draw an Equip for turn anyways

to put it simply a search at the cost of a normal draw isn't worth it in 99% of situations the only 1 exception is with malefic worlds search effect since you get a power malefic monster no matter what

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 9:11 pm
by ominous
AnimeMasterDub wrote:These decks I made from scratch. Any constructive criticism would be helpful
Note: SAYING SCRAP THE DECK AND MAKE a "Insert name of deck that I don't like" ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10499694 Dark Magician
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10497059 Odd-eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10508395 D/D/D (shelved due to too many risks and complications)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10512024 Blue-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10514286 Blackwing (shelved due to people saying blackwing synchro monsters are outdated)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10516978 Melodious
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10517048 Red-Eyes ( Do not suggest Dragoon)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519816 SuperHeavy Samurai
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519010 Harpie
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10521523 Abyss Actors (hard work in progress)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10536847 Elemental (Do not suggest mask cards)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10536953 Kuriboh (Honestly not my best work)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10539439 BLS
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10542384 Evil Rock
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10556940 Galaxy-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557533 Toon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557603 Amazon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557668 Summoned Skull
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10566375 Ancient Gear
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10608524 Cyber Dragon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10608569 CyberDark
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10658211 Gearfried
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10675630 Goyo

your decks are bad, and you should try referencing other peoples builds, you dont gain anything by playing bad decks "you made yourself"

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 11:01 pm
by Renji Asuka
ominous wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:These decks I made from scratch. Any constructive criticism would be helpful
Note: SAYING SCRAP THE DECK AND MAKE a "Insert name of deck that I don't like" ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10499694 Dark Magician
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10497059 Odd-eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10508395 D/D/D (shelved due to too many risks and complications)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10512024 Blue-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10514286 Blackwing (shelved due to people saying blackwing synchro monsters are outdated)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10516978 Melodious
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10517048 Red-Eyes ( Do not suggest Dragoon)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519816 SuperHeavy Samurai
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519010 Harpie
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10521523 Abyss Actors (hard work in progress)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10536847 Elemental (Do not suggest mask cards)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10536953 Kuriboh (Honestly not my best work)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10539439 BLS
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10542384 Evil Rock
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10556940 Galaxy-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557533 Toon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557603 Amazon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557668 Summoned Skull
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10566375 Ancient Gear
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10608524 Cyber Dragon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10608569 CyberDark
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10658211 Gearfried
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10675630 Goyo

your decks are bad, and you should try referencing other peoples builds, you dont gain anything by playing bad decks "you made yourself"

That isn't real feedback.

You need to tell him why they're bad.

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:15 am
by greg503
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:So, you are willing to play a monster that destroys the cards you equip to it, and NOTHING else, but not the card that searches the darn equip spells.

"Searches" by replacing your draw, which isn't the best given that you would both want a monster capable of using the Equip Spell to search one, and that you might draw an Equip for turn anyways

to put it simply a search at the cost of a normal draw isn't worth it in 99% of situations the only 1 exception is with malefic worlds search effect since you get a power malefic monster no matter what

Yes, which is why I'm fine with you not playing Gearbreed

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 5:41 am
by ominous
Renji Asuka wrote:
ominous wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:These decks I made from scratch. Any constructive criticism would be helpful
Note: SAYING SCRAP THE DECK AND MAKE a "Insert name of deck that I don't like" ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10499694 Dark Magician
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10497059 Odd-eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10508395 D/D/D (shelved due to too many risks and complications)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10512024 Blue-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10514286 Blackwing (shelved due to people saying blackwing synchro monsters are outdated)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10516978 Melodious
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10517048 Red-Eyes ( Do not suggest Dragoon)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519816 SuperHeavy Samurai
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10519010 Harpie
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10521523 Abyss Actors (hard work in progress)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10536847 Elemental (Do not suggest mask cards)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10536953 Kuriboh (Honestly not my best work)
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10539439 BLS
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10542384 Evil Rock
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10556940 Galaxy-Eyes
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557533 Toon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557603 Amazon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10557668 Summoned Skull
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10566375 Ancient Gear
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10608524 Cyber Dragon
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10608569 CyberDark
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10658211 Gearfried
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=10675630 Goyo

your decks are bad, and you should try referencing other peoples builds, you dont gain anything by playing bad decks "you made yourself"

That isn't real feedback.

You need to tell him why they're bad.

pretty sure just saying "theyre bad" is by definition feedback, and i did explain why they were bad, theyre bad because they chose to build the decks "by themselves" instead of referencing other builds of the same deck.

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:57 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
ominous wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:
ominous wrote:your decks are bad, and you should try referencing other peoples builds, you dont gain anything by playing bad decks "you made yourself"

That isn't real feedback.

You need to tell him why they're bad.

pretty sure just saying "theyre bad" is by definition feedback, and i did explain why they were bad, theyre bad because they chose to build the decks "by themselves" instead of referencing other builds of the same deck.

1) Renji is right saying that they're bad isn't real feedback
2) I was told that I should be making decks from scratch instead of copying other people's decks

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 1:13 pm
by Lil Oldman
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
ominous wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:That isn't real feedback.

You need to tell him why they're bad.

pretty sure just saying "theyre bad" is by definition feedback, and i did explain why they were bad, theyre bad because they chose to build the decks "by themselves" instead of referencing other builds of the same deck.

1) Renji is right saying that they're bad isn't real feedback
2) I was told that I should be making decks from scratch instead of copying other people's decks

Copying =/= referencing

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 5:46 am
by AnimeMasterDub
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
ominous wrote:pretty sure just saying "theyre bad" is by definition feedback, and i did explain why they were bad, theyre bad because they chose to build the decks "by themselves" instead of referencing other builds of the same deck.

1) Renji is right saying that they're bad isn't real feedback
2) I was told that I should be making decks from scratch instead of copying other people's decks

Copying =/= referencing

even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 6:59 am
by ominous
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:1) Renji is right saying that they're bad isn't real feedback
2) I was told that I should be making decks from scratch instead of copying other people's decks

Copying =/= referencing

even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

Wow, so in otherwords you lack the ability to innovate....?

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:39 am
by AnimeMasterDub
ominous wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:Copying =/= referencing

even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

Wow, so in otherwords you lack the ability to innovate....?

I know how to innovate there just isn't any reason to do so on a deck that was made by someone else

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:06 pm
by Lil Oldman
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:1) Renji is right saying that they're bad isn't real feedback
2) I was told that I should be making decks from scratch instead of copying other people's decks

Copying =/= referencing

even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

What are you insinuating? That everybody that has the spare time to upload aomething to deckshop pro is the equivalent of god? Nobody is perfect, I can say the same about you and your decks and the argument just falls apart.

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 2:21 pm
by Renji Asuka
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:1) Renji is right saying that they're bad isn't real feedback
2) I was told that I should be making decks from scratch instead of copying other people's decks

Copying =/= referencing

even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

No build is perfect end of story.

When Metalfoes dropped in the OCG, I waited a week to see if any lists would top and if ygorganization would post any. I took a build that took 1st place and made it. I then played a few games with it to learn the deck and to understand it. When I felt I had a good grasp on the deck, I tore the deck apart and rebuilt it with a TCG mindset. (Especially when some legal cards are banned in the TCG.)

I had a 90% win rate with it. Would had a higher win rate if I took out Pot of Riches. Unfortunately, I kept it in the deck cause I didn't see it often enough to make a judgment call.

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 11:08 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:Copying =/= referencing

even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

What are you insinuating? That everybody that has the spare time to upload aomething to deckshop pro is the equivalent of god? Nobody is perfect, I can say the same about you and your decks and the argument just falls apart.

I never claimed that the decks I made from scratch are perfect If I thought they were I wouldn't have made this thread and posted them on it.
I am insinuating the decks that are posted online on other websites besides the duelingbook are carefully made so they are at their most efficient in other works there is no way to improve those decks. If you think that is false then I'll test your theory by posting a deck that a copied from another's deck list and you can tell me how it can be improved.

Re: Decks I made from scratch

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 11:11 pm
by Lil Oldman
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:even if that were the case the decks already made by someone else are perfect the way they are and don't need to be changed in any way so it would still be like copying their decks

What are you insinuating? That everybody that has the spare time to upload aomething to deckshop pro is the equivalent of god? Nobody is perfect, I can say the same about you and your decks and the argument just falls apart.

I never claimed that the decks I made from scratch are perfect If I thought they were I wouldn't have made this thread and posted them on it.
I am insinuating the decks that are posted online on other websites besides the duelingbook are carefully made so they are at their most efficient in other works there is no way to improve those decks. If you think that is false then I'll test your theory by posting a deck that a copied from another's deck list and you can tell me how it can be improved.

Game on.