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Archetypes that need a downgrade

Post #1 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 am

Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)
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Post #2 by Fredblade » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:25 am

They're ramp decks, they tend to have a slow turn 1 and they have a difficult time playing through established boards, if they go crazy with their resources is because you let them.

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Post #3 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:55 am

Fredblade wrote:They're ramp decks, they tend to have a slow turn 1 and they have a difficult time playing through established boards, if they go crazy with their resources is because you let them.

they seem to be fast paste from my experience besides unless I see an Odd-eyes deck take out altergeist and skystrikers with ease I stick to my claim as that they need a downgrade
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Post #4 by Sound4 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:31 pm

Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

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Post #5 by DarwisBellium92 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:20 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

Included you also Gimmick Puppet and Metalfoes
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Post #6 by greg503 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:33 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist
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Post #7 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:44 pm

greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?
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Post #8 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:45 pm

Sound4 wrote:Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience
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Post #9 by Christen57 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:58 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?


Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

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Post #10 by Lil Oldman » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:42 pm

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Post #11 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:47 pm

Christen57 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?


Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

is odd-eyes on that better archetypes list?
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Post #12 by Lil Oldman » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:59 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:When was that?


Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

is odd-eyes on that better archetypes list?

Me when electrumite
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Post #13 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:05 pm

Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

is odd-eyes on that better archetypes list?

Me when electrumite

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Post #14 by greg503 » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:09 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?

Hornet Drones was limited in 2018, Multirole was limited in July 2019, Engage was banned Jan 2020, and has just now been brought back to 1.
As for Altergeist, it used to have cards on the banlist
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Post #15 by AnimeMasterDub » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm

greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?

Hornet Drones was limited in 2018, Multirole was limited in July 2019, Engage was banned Jan 2020, and has just now been brought back to 1.
As for Altergeist, it used to have cards on the banlist

in other words I rest my case
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Post #16 by troglyte » Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:43 pm

I find it strange that your criticisms of two control decks is that they're 'too spammy.'

Both decks focus on disrupting your opponent's plays and denying them resources all the while establishing a minimalist offense.

I think the word you're looking for is 'Grinding,' which is a very different problem.
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Post #17 by AnimeMasterDub » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:16 am

troglyte wrote:I find it strange that your criticisms of two control decks is that they're 'too spammy.'

Both decks focus on disrupting your opponent's plays and denying them resources all the while establishing a minimalist offense.

I think the word you're looking for is 'Grinding,' which is a very different problem.

whatever term you want to use my point still stands
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Post #18 by Sound4 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:59 pm

:?: I
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Sound4 wrote:Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Then you don't know how to play against the decks properly.

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Post #19 by AnimeMasterDub » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:22 pm

Sound4 wrote::?: I
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Sound4 wrote:Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Then you don't know how to play against the decks properly.

Are you implying that there is a way for Odd-Eyes to defeat sky strikers with ease that I don't know about?
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Post #20 by greg503 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:24 pm

AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Sound4 wrote::?: I
AnimeMasterDub wrote:nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Then you don't know how to play against the decks properly.

Are you implying that there is a way for Odd-Eyes to defeat sky strikers with ease that I don't know about?

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