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Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 am
by AnimeMasterDub
Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:25 am
by Fredblade
They're ramp decks, they tend to have a slow turn 1 and they have a difficult time playing through established boards, if they go crazy with their resources is because you let them.

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:55 am
by AnimeMasterDub
Fredblade wrote:They're ramp decks, they tend to have a slow turn 1 and they have a difficult time playing through established boards, if they go crazy with their resources is because you let them.

they seem to be fast paste from my experience besides unless I see an Odd-eyes deck take out altergeist and skystrikers with ease I stick to my claim as that they need a downgrade

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:31 pm
by Sound4
Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:20 pm
by DarwisBellium92
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

Included you also Gimmick Puppet and Metalfoes

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:33 pm
by greg503
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:44 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:45 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
Sound4 wrote:Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:58 pm
by Christen57
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?


Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:42 pm
by Lil Oldman
Adventurer should just lock you out of things that don't specifically mention "Adventurer Token" for the turn you use the Rite.

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:47 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
Christen57 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?


Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

is odd-eyes on that better archetypes list?

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:59 pm
by Lil Oldman
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:When was that?


Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

is odd-eyes on that better archetypes list?

Me when electrumite

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:05 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
Lil Oldman wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
Hornet Drones, Multirole, and Engage were put to 1 and are currently still at 1.

As for Altergeist, they seem to have been powercrept by better archetypes so Multifaker was taken off the list.

is odd-eyes on that better archetypes list?

Me when electrumite

what?

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:09 pm
by greg503
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Title explains it all reasons I may or may not mention in the original posts. Original posts may be updated over time.

SkyStrikers (too much spamming)
Altergeist ( way too much spamming)

And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?

Hornet Drones was limited in 2018, Multirole was limited in July 2019, Engage was banned Jan 2020, and has just now been brought back to 1.
As for Altergeist, it used to have cards on the banlist

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
greg503 wrote:
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
greg503 wrote:And that's why they WERE downgraded through the banlist

When was that?

Hornet Drones was limited in 2018, Multirole was limited in July 2019, Engage was banned Jan 2020, and has just now been brought back to 1.
As for Altergeist, it used to have cards on the banlist

in other words I rest my case

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:43 pm
by troglyte
I find it strange that your criticisms of two control decks is that they're 'too spammy.'

Both decks focus on disrupting your opponent's plays and denying them resources all the while establishing a minimalist offense.

I think the word you're looking for is 'Grinding,' which is a very different problem.

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:16 am
by AnimeMasterDub
troglyte wrote:I find it strange that your criticisms of two control decks is that they're 'too spammy.'

Both decks focus on disrupting your opponent's plays and denying them resources all the while establishing a minimalist offense.

I think the word you're looking for is 'Grinding,' which is a very different problem.

whatever term you want to use my point still stands

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:59 pm
by Sound4
:?: I
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Sound4 wrote:Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Then you don't know how to play against the decks properly.

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:22 pm
by AnimeMasterDub
Sound4 wrote::?: I
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Sound4 wrote:Sky strikers are fine snd Altergeist isn't good. Rogue at best.

nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Then you don't know how to play against the decks properly.

Are you implying that there is a way for Odd-Eyes to defeat sky strikers with ease that I don't know about?

Re: Archetypes that need a downgrade

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:24 pm
by greg503
AnimeMasterDub wrote:
Sound4 wrote::?: I
AnimeMasterDub wrote:nope they both still need to be downgraded from my experience

Then you don't know how to play against the decks properly.

Are you implying that there is a way for Odd-Eyes to defeat sky strikers with ease that I don't know about?

Lightning Storm, Feather Duster, Evenly Matched, and other backrow removal, even Ghost Ogre goes a long way