Help in improving this deck
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:30 am
https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=9362731 I am working on an ELEMENTAL HERO deck WITHOUT mask change. Any help besides adding mask change related cards would be useful.
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Sound4 wrote:Heroes are complete trash Post BODE. Play a chemicritter deck. I have not seen many people play heroes since Post BODE suggesting it no longer can compete with the meta and probably a tier 2 or 3 deck. Play a chemicritter deck.
Sound4 wrote:Heroes are complete trash Post BODE. Play a chemicritter deck. I have not seen many people play heroes since Post BODE suggesting it no longer can compete with the meta and probably a tier 2 or 3 deck. Play a chemicritter deck.
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Can someone actually help instead of trolling
greg503 wrote:Sound4 wrote:Heroes are complete trash Post BODE. Play a chemicritter deck. I have not seen many people play heroes since Post BODE suggesting it no longer can compete with the meta and probably a tier 2 or 3 deck. Play a chemicritter deck.
Gemini WHAT?
Christen57 wrote:
Why are you running trap cards, Sparkman, Legacy, Acquisitiveness, Core, Nova, Escuridao, and Wingman? None of those are worth running in elemental heroes. Take out those and play more Shadow Mist, Solid Soldier, Emergency Call, Miracle Fusion, Upstart Goblin, Vyon, and A Hero Lives. Maximize your deck's searching, consistency, and combo potential. Maybe run a copy of Double Summon or Monster Reborn to help you play through something like an Ash Blossom.
The side deck should consist of either hand traps for disrupting your opponent should you go second, powerful going second cards like Evenly Matched and Sphere Mode for breaking the opponent's board should you go second, or spell removal to deal with the Mystic Mine matchup.
Sound4 wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:Can someone actually help instead of trolling
I am not trolling heroes are complete trash Post BODE.
Sound4 wrote:greg503 wrote:Sound4 wrote:Heroes are complete trash Post BODE. Play a chemicritter deck. I have not seen many people play heroes since Post BODE suggesting it no longer can compete with the meta and probably a tier 2 or 3 deck. Play a chemicritter deck.
Gemini WHAT?
OK and?
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Christen57 wrote:
Why are you running trap cards, Sparkman, Legacy, Acquisitiveness, Core, Nova, Escuridao, and Wingman? None of those are worth running in elemental heroes. Take out those and play more Shadow Mist, Solid Soldier, Emergency Call, Miracle Fusion, Upstart Goblin, Vyon, and A Hero Lives. Maximize your deck's searching, consistency, and combo potential. Maybe run a copy of Double Summon or Monster Reborn to help you play through something like an Ash Blossom.
The side deck should consist of either hand traps for disrupting your opponent should you go second, powerful going second cards like Evenly Matched and Sphere Mode for breaking the opponent's board should you go second, or spell removal to deal with the Mystic Mine matchup.
ok i made the changes you for the main deck but what cards are going to be in the extra deck
Christen57 wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:Christen57 wrote:
Why are you running trap cards, Sparkman, Legacy, Acquisitiveness, Core, Nova, Escuridao, and Wingman? None of those are worth running in elemental heroes. Take out those and play more Shadow Mist, Solid Soldier, Emergency Call, Miracle Fusion, Upstart Goblin, Vyon, and A Hero Lives. Maximize your deck's searching, consistency, and combo potential. Maybe run a copy of Double Summon or Monster Reborn to help you play through something like an Ash Blossom.
The side deck should consist of either hand traps for disrupting your opponent should you go second, powerful going second cards like Evenly Matched and Sphere Mode for breaking the opponent's board should you go second, or spell removal to deal with the Mystic Mine matchup.
ok i made the changes you for the main deck but what cards are going to be in the extra deck
Take out the Upstart, Terraforming, Legacy, and Raigeki. Unless your deck relies on seeing it's field spell as often as possible, like with Mystic Mine, there's no need for Terraforming. Legacy is too situational, requires too much setup, and is going to be a brick in the majority of cases. Take that Gaia out of the extra deck. Upstart should not be in any 41 or higher card deck.
Don't forget that xyz and link monsters also exist, plenty of which can be run in Elemental HEROes. Bagooska and Abyss Dweller can slow your opponent down, Exciton Knight can nuke your opponent's field if they have more cards than you, Tornado Dragon can be used against spell/trap heavily decks, and so on.
Figure out what kind of boards you want to end on going first, the kind of board you want to assemble going second, and focus your deck towards being able to assemble those end boards depending on if you're going first or second. Maybe going first, you want to consistency end on a Bagooska, Abyss Dweller, or Tornado Dragon so you can have something to disrupt or slow down your opponent during their turn, and then going second, to help break your opponent's board, you want to consistency get out Absolute Zero, Great Tornado, or Sunrise.
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Christen57 wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:ok i made the changes you for the main deck but what cards are going to be in the extra deck
Take out the Upstart, Terraforming, Legacy, and Raigeki. Unless your deck relies on seeing it's field spell as often as possible, like with Mystic Mine, there's no need for Terraforming. Legacy is too situational, requires too much setup, and is going to be a brick in the majority of cases. Take that Gaia out of the extra deck. Upstart should not be in any 41 or higher card deck.
Don't forget that xyz and link monsters also exist, plenty of which can be run in Elemental HEROes. Bagooska and Abyss Dweller can slow your opponent down, Exciton Knight can nuke your opponent's field if they have more cards than you, Tornado Dragon can be used against spell/trap heavily decks, and so on.
Figure out what kind of boards you want to end on going first, the kind of board you want to assemble going second, and focus your deck towards being able to assemble those end boards depending on if you're going first or second. Maybe going first, you want to consistency end on a Bagooska, Abyss Dweller, or Tornado Dragon so you can have something to disrupt or slow down your opponent during their turn, and then going second, to help break your opponent's board, you want to consistency get out Absolute Zero, Great Tornado, or Sunrise.
that still leaves 1 spot left in the extra deck
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Sound4 wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:Can someone actually help instead of trolling
I am not trolling heroes are complete trash Post BODE.
that's why i said you are trolling if you are going to insult the best archetype in GX and not give any helpful advice in improving the deck then I'm going to count it as trolling
Sound4 wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:Sound4 wrote:I am not trolling heroes are complete trash Post BODE.
that's why i said you are trolling if you are going to insult the best archetype in GX and not give any helpful advice in improving the deck then I'm going to count it as trolling
I am saying that heroes are no longer a good enough deck even if a person can make this deck better it won't be enough to compete with the meta.
Sound4 wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:Sound4 wrote:I am not trolling heroes are complete trash Post BODE.
that's why i said you are trolling if you are going to insult the best archetype in GX and not give any helpful advice in improving the deck then I'm going to count it as trolling
I am saying that heroes are no longer a good enough deck even if a person can make this deck better it won't be enough to compete with the meta.
AnimeMasterDub wrote:Do I need to say meta is for the weak?
KTeknis wrote:AnimeMasterDub wrote:Do I need to say meta is for the weak?
That kinda made you sounds like a casual jerk. Maybe instead just say that you don't ask for something to beat a meta, just a functioning HEROes deck.