Psy-Framelord Omega / Introduction to Gallantry vs. 2+ copies of a card activating its effect to play itself from hand

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Psy-Framelord Omega / Introduction to Gallantry vs. 2+ copies of a card activating its effect to play itself from hand

Post #1 by Christen57 » Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Psy-Framelord Omega has the effect:
Once per turn, during the Main Phase (Quick Effect): You can banish both this face-up card from the field and 1 random card from your opponent's hand, face-up, until your next Standby Phase.


Adamancipator Analyzer has the effect:
If only your opponent controls a monster: You can Special Summon this card from your hand.


So say my opponent has more than 1 copy of Adamancipator Analyzer in hand, and activates the effect of one of them to special summon itself from the hand. Then I chain Psy-Framelord Omega or Introduction to Gallantry to rip a random card from his hand.

If the ripped card ends up being one of those Adamancipator Analyzers, how will we be able to know if it's the one that activated its effect or if it's the one that didn't activate its effect? If the ripped monster is the one that activated its effect, the effect that activated will resolve without special summoning anything, but if the monster is the one that didn't activate its effect, the one that did activate its effect will resolve successfully and special summon itself.

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Post #2 by sentinelsean » Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:25 am

in real life you would simply keep that copy revealed when resolving the effect of omega, then a die roll is used to pick a random card. in DB the easiest way would be to place that card in a zone and roll a die and do the same thing. this allows for a random method and solves the issue. it should be noted that this should always be the way to resolve the effect in these cases even when there is not a second copy to avoid giving out the information of a second copy

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Post #3 by Kitty Trouble » Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:57 pm

Omega chaining to an activated effect in hand is one of the few times in which I actually recommend using dice. Regardless of there being a second copy in hand, since that would give extra info if it was only situational.


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