Level Modulation Ruling (Disc)

[Im2Ghoul]

Currently "Level Modulations" effect states,

"Your opponent draws 2 cards. Special Summon 1 "LV" monster from your Graveyard, ignoring the Summoning conditions. The monster that was Special Summoned by this effect cannot attack, nor activate or apply its effect this turn."

Does this mean that if I send, "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8". Utilizing the effect of Dragon Ravine or Dragon Shrine.
I can utilize the Effect of "Level Modulation" to special summon" Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8" since the effect ignores the summoning condition.

My request for this ruling is based on similar ignore summoning conditions like cards like: "Double Evolution Pill" when summoning "Ultimate Conductor Tyranno" from the Deck.

[Fredblade]

If you attempt to summon it from the GY or banished, they must have been properly summoned first by the appropiate method, even if the card says "ignoring summoning conditions"

[greg503]

Imagine thinking "ignoring the summoning condition" means ignoring the summoning condition no matter what the situation

[Renji Asuka]

Imagine thinking "ignoring the summoning condition" means ignoring the summoning condition no matter what the situation

To be fair, it's really poor wording on Konami's end. As it makes you think that.

[Fredblade]

Imagine thinking "ignoring the summoning condition" means ignoring the summoning condition no matter what the situation

I think because being properly summoned first in order to be "revived" from GY or banished is not a condition, is a game mechanic just like how Pendulums go to from the field to the ED instead of being send to GY even if the effect of the card says "send it to the GY" for example.

In OCG is more clear because "nomi" maindeck monster have a new type (like Tuner, Union, etc) which is "Special Summon" so cards like for example Degrade Buster is a Cyberse/Special Summon/Effect monster in the OCG for example, meanwhile in TCG they don't have this, so it's just a Cyberse/Effect, but nomi maindeck monsters can still be identified if they have the text: "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set." followed by a summoning condition that starts with "Must". Rituals and ED monsters are "nomi" monsters by default as they cannot be Normal Summoned/Set and must be properly summoned with their corresponding mechanic or the method listed on their effect (for example, contact fusions) to be consideres as properly summoned.

What the "ignoring summoning conditions" ultimately does is ignoring the part where the card says it can only be special summoned by the method listed on the card but they still are tied to "nomi" monster mechanics of being properly summoned first in order to be "revived"

[Christen57]

Imagine thinking "ignoring the summoning condition" means ignoring the summoning condition no matter what the situation

To be fair, it's really poor wording on Konami's end. As it makes you think that.

Not really. The rule that a nomi or semi-nomi monster has to first be "properly" summoned before it can be summoned from the graveyard or while banished isn't a "summoning condition" but just a regular yugioh rule. An actual summoning conditions is something like "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned by... whatever".

When you're ignoring the summoning conditions, you're only ignoring the text saying "Must be special summoned by" and so on. You're not ignoring the yugioh rule put in place that prevents you from re-summoning that monster that wasn't properly summoned.

I guess the simplest way to explain it would be like this: If you try to special summon a monster from the hand via, for example, a pendulum summon, but that monster says "Must first be Special Summoned by banishing X cards from your GY" or something like that, then it's that summoning condition that's preventing you from simply pendulum summoning the monster from the hand. However, if you try to send that same monster to the graveyard with Foolish Burial then try to revive it with Monster Reborn, this time it's game mechanics preventing you from reviving the monster since it wasn't first properly summoned, not summoning conditions. Just because an effect can ignore summoning conditions doesn't mean it will also ignore game mechanics. It would be like trying to special summon a monster from the hand when all 5 of your monster zones are full. Sure, the effect might say to ignore the summoning conditions, but the game mechanics still prevent the monster from being summoned since there aren't any available zones.
Ignoring summoning conditions is different from ignoring game mechanics.

Edit: Fredblade explained it better than I did, so refer to their comment above this one.

[greg503]

Imagine thinking "ignoring the summoning condition" means ignoring the summoning condition no matter what the situation

I think because being properly summoned first in order to be "revived" from GY or banished is not a condition, is a game mechanic just like how Pendulums go to from the field to the ED instead of being send to GY even if the effect of the card says "send it to the GY" for example.

In OCG is more clear because "nomi" maindeck monster have a new type (like Tuner, Union, etc) which is "Special Summon" so cards like for example Degrade Buster is a Cyberse/Special Summon/Effect monster in the OCG for example, meanwhile in TCG they don't have this, so it's just a Cyberse/Effect, but nomi maindeck monsters can still be identified if they have the text: "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set." followed by a summoning condition that starts with "Must". Rituals and ED monsters are "nomi" monsters by default as they cannot be Normal Summoned/Set and must be properly summoned with their corresponding mechanic or the method listed on their effect (for example, contact fusions) to be consideres as properly summoned.

What the "ignoring summoning conditions" ultimately does is ignoring the part where the card says it can only be special summoned by the method listed on the card but they still are tied to "nomi" monster mechanics of being properly summoned first in order to be "revived"

But even the OCG text says "ignoring the summoning conditions," and needs the Q&A to tell this fact. There is literally no good reason for this to be how it works. It's just as bad as missing timings, nothing would break the meta if both of these restrictions were removesd.

[Genexwrecker]

Please do not use nomi or semi nomi when answering and trying to explain a ruling thank you.