Yu-Gi-Oh! » Rulings Q&A

Lunhill: i like how u cancel duel so i cant post it.... u litterally told him to play... then punished me... makes no sense.....
Kitty Trouble: And then I checked your history, and you have a long history of trolling and potentiall beginner
Kitty Trouble: You should know the rules better before playing in rated
Lunhill: ... a long history... i should know the rules? u fail to look deep enough into the issue.... did u read public chat? we were in the call an hour bc that was the 3rd time he had misplayed
Lunhill: he attempted to normal twice, he didnt understand dpe didnt target... and ur gonna set me to beginner for? missreading a colon? ummm....
Kitty Trouble: For expecting him to activate an effect that he can't activate
Kitty Trouble: You can't activate an effect if you can't pay the cost
Lunhill: u cant normal summon a monster twice either
Kitty Trouble: If your opponent took an hour to correct that after explanation perhaps I'd set them to beginner too
Lunhill: took longer then that to explain dpe didnt target,,, there is record of that in public chat...
Lunhill: However setting me to begginer bc i didnt accept his draw is the issue...
Lunhill: u didnt repremand me to begin with u told him to play he didnt want to and u did after the fact? how does that make any sense?
Lunhill: we sat in the duel another 5 mins after that... he didnt wanna loose... and ur catering to blobfish... 2 birds one stone
Kitty Trouble: I don't have anything more to say about this issue, so you're just blowing up my DMs at this point
Kitty Trouble: And preventing me from answering others DMs
Lunhill: ... uh sorry however since ur the one who made the ruling aint really anyone else to dm about it is there? i just would like to know why u told him to conrinue and after i didnt accept draw then deal out some punishment? i dont believe a draw is mandatory is it?
Kitty Trouble: posting.php?mode=post&f=6
Kitty Trouble: It was because you were expecting to force him to activate an effect paying a cost that he couldn't pay
Lunhill: you then told him to continue...
Kitty Trouble: And it's not fair to force players to wait for a full hour because their opponent doesn't know you can't pay costs that you can;t' pay
Kitty Trouble: I hadnt checked your history before when I said that
Lunhill: my history..... what exactly does this mean? the same bs like over a year ago? that what ur refurring to? seems irrelavant
Lunhill: so why did u day it then... u made a ruling i attempted to continue play he refused and you rewarded him... then went back on ur ruling.... that litterally makes no sense at all
Kitty Trouble: You should know that you can't activate effects without paying costs before playing in rated. As such, I don't find that you currently know the rules well enough to play in rated
Lunhill: but my opp who doesnt know what a none targeting effect and attempted to normal twice does? that makes sense....
Kitty Trouble: Did they take an hour to resolve those issues?
Lunhill: sure did
Lunhill: had u read logs u would have seen that
Lunhill: I kept my mouth shut let him talk and was punished... no logic in that what so ever
Lunhill: I cant determine when a judge isnt or is on... also seems pretty convinceing of an argument since the effect says YOU CAN.... not reading as mandatory if u miss that its a cost....
Lunhill: i had him beat regardless.. the point in all of it was after having to discuss the issue in length twice prior we coild just wait for a judge... it was agreed upon... there was no mention of being in any rush until you told him to continue
Lunhill: OnlyForJoy: that dude who had me waiting for a judge for an hour and a half, got turned into a Beginner as punishment, damn
Lunhill: but thats ok in public... see the point yet?
Lunhill: he must be at work tho huh?
Kitty Trouble is offlin

Why not post the replay instead of that?

i cant the duel was canceled there is no replay

[quote="Lunhill":9hjqph1i]Lunhill: i like how u cancel duel so i cant post it.... u litterally told him to play... then punished me... makes no sense.....
Kitty Trouble: And then I checked your history, and you have a long history of trolling and potentiall beginner
Kitty Trouble: You should know the rules better before playing in rated
Lunhill: ... a long history... i should know the rules? u fail to look deep enough into the issue.... did u read public chat? we were in the call an hour bc that was the 3rd time he had misplayed
Lunhill: he attempted to normal twice, he didnt understand dpe didnt target... and ur gonna set me to beginner for? missreading a colon? ummm....
Kitty Trouble: For expecting him to activate an effect that he can't activate
Kitty Trouble: You can't activate an effect if you can't pay the cost
Lunhill: u cant normal summon a monster twice either
Kitty Trouble: If your opponent took an hour to correct that after explanation perhaps I'd set them to beginner too
Lunhill: took longer then that to explain dpe didnt target,,, there is record of that in public chat...
Lunhill: However setting me to begginer bc i didnt accept his draw is the issue...
Lunhill: u didnt repremand me to begin with u told him to play he didnt want to and u did after the fact? how does that make any sense?
Lunhill: we sat in the duel another 5 mins after that... he didnt wanna loose... and ur catering to blobfish... 2 birds one stone
Kitty Trouble: I don't have anything more to say about this issue, so you're just blowing up my DMs at this point
Kitty Trouble: And preventing me from answering others DMs
Lunhill: ... uh sorry however since ur the one who made the ruling aint really anyone else to dm about it is there? i just would like to know why u told him to conrinue and after i didnt accept draw then deal out some punishment? i dont believe a draw is mandatory is it?
Kitty Trouble: posting.php?mode=post&f=6
Kitty Trouble: It was because you were expecting to force him to activate an effect paying a cost that he couldn't pay
Lunhill: you then told him to continue...
Kitty Trouble: And it's not fair to force players to wait for a full hour because their opponent doesn't know you can't pay costs that you can;t' pay
Kitty Trouble: I hadnt checked your history before when I said that
Lunhill: my history..... what exactly does this mean? the same bs like over a year ago? that what ur refurring to? seems irrelavant
Lunhill: so why did u day it then... u made a ruling i attempted to continue play he refused and you rewarded him... then went back on ur ruling.... that litterally makes no sense at all
Kitty Trouble: You should know that you can't activate effects without paying costs before playing in rated. As such, I don't find that you currently know the rules well enough to play in rated
Lunhill: but my opp who doesnt know what a none targeting effect and attempted to normal twice does? that makes sense....
Kitty Trouble: Did they take an hour to resolve those issues?
Lunhill: sure did
Lunhill: had u read logs u would have seen that
Lunhill: I kept my mouth shut let him talk and was punished... no logic in that what so ever
Lunhill: I cant determine when a judge isnt or is on... also seems pretty convinceing of an argument since the effect says YOU CAN.... not reading as mandatory if u miss that its a cost....
Lunhill: i had him beat regardless.. the point in all of it was after having to discuss the issue in length twice prior we coild just wait for a judge... it was agreed upon... there was no mention of being in any rush until you told him to continue
Lunhill: OnlyForJoy: that dude who had me waiting for a judge for an hour and a half, got turned into a Beginner as punishment, damn
Lunhill: but thats ok in public... see the point yet?
Lunhill: he must be at work tho huh?
Kitty Trouble is offlin[/quote:9hjqph1i]
[quote="Renji Asuka":9hjqph1i]Why not post the replay instead of that?[/quote:9hjqph1i]

[url:9hjqph1i]https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=34485316[/url:9hjqph1i]

Apparently, Lunhill was set to beginner for rule-sharking his opponent for over half an hour over a minor mistake his opponent made.
The opponent overlayed their 2 dark monsters, Lunhill assumed his opponent was going for an xyz summon, the opponent instead brought out Wee Witch's Apprentice (a link monster) from their extra deck and claimed they were link summoning it using those 2 dark monsters.
Lunhill held up the game demanding to know why the opponent overlayed those monsters if they were link summoning and not xyz summoning, and instead of simply sending the overlayed monsters to the graveyard, correcting the minor mistake, and moving on, the two of them argued about this for several minutes.
Eventually a judge got called in (Kitty Trouble of course) and set Lunhill to beginner for both rule-sharking and refusing to allow his opponent to just send the overlayed cards to the graveyard and move on with the game.

The judge also saw that Lunhill had a history of rule-sharking like this, like when Lunhill rule-sharked his opponent over that other minor mistake involving that field spell instead of letting them correct the minor mistake.

Additional context regarding Lunhill's history... viewtopic.php?f=21&t=8730

so he didn't find another platform lol

Interesting

more context.... my opp overlaid, linked, then resummoned the monsters activated dark world, then overlaid again, said nvm, linked finally into the witch then activated dark world again. Now read dark world... it says YOU CAN banish 1, how horrible of me to think he had already activated dark world so he couldnt lol.Whats failed to be mentioned is my opp calling a judge regarding DPE... having to explain this to them for an equivelant amount of time, calling him on an extra normal summon, and by this point just being over it. AS well as we both agreed to wait for a judge... so im not sure where anything your siting has anything to do with the situation nor am not sure how anything from march 2020 has any relevancy to the issue...

Also I had no issue continuing the game... my opp wanted a win refused to continue play and offered a draw, when i refused the draw, and Kitty was asked to "help me" by my opp that is when i was set to begiinner. I had no issue returning to playing and even appologized for being wrong.... so im unsure why the facts are being presented incorrectly.... bc the only thing is question was my opp activating his field spell twice in 1 turn....

Lunhill, you literally could not stand the fact that the opponent didn't realize he had nothing to banish from Gates, that and you were complaining about him overlaying when he'd send the mats to the GY. You were literally trying to ruleshark him.

We all see this in the replay.

That isn't going into the fact that you don't know how PSCT works. You shouldn't had been in rated to begin with.

Oh look, it's Lunhill being a fucking weasel. Again.

rofl yall are some hating asses in here rofl. And this dude above me is touched in the head on a real special level.

I had the game won regardless of anything he did period... so why would i have to ruleshark him? oh i didnt... had absolutely nothing to do with it. If thats the excuse your gonna give why were we instructed to continue in the first place....

do streamers pay a % ? asking for a friend

only after i refused to draw and my opp had to go to work.... and specifically asked the judge.... and i quote.... "kitty, Help me!" was anything done by the judge in regards to any of this. so can you explain to me why that was the key factor? bc ole boy was posting in public chat 20 mins later... so plz dont say that.

Ya.... i bet that falls on deft ears tho... bc there is no way you can deny that can you?

OnlyForJoy declared effect of "The Gates of Dark World"
Lunhill: k
OnlyForJoy: hmm
Lunhill: ..... fr?
OnlyForJoy: no fiend in gy
Lunhill: so whats ur play
OnlyForJoy: can I figure it out
Lunhill: ... omfg...
OnlyForJoy: stfu
Lunhill: link overlay? activate spell rinse repeat?
OnlyForJoy declared effect of "The Gates of Dark World"
Lunhill: u u sed it
Lunhill: u used it...
OnlyForJoy: ?????????
OnlyForJoy: bro are u dubb
Lunhill: u activated it did u not?
OnlyForJoy: im not even entertaining that
Lunhill: ... what?
Lunhill: how many cards u drawing bro?
OnlyForJoy declared effect of "Broww, Huntsman of Dark World"
Lunhill paused the game
OnlyForJoy: If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Draw 1 card
OnlyForJoy: are u special ed
Lunhill: are u?
OnlyForJoy: unpause the fuckin game
OnlyForJoy: we been here long enuff
OnlyForJoy: I got money to make
OnlyForJoy: damn troll
Lunhill: u overlayed the monster... sent to grave.... brought back activated spell... then brought back the monsters... overlayed... sent to grave... linked what u have and activated spell again...
Lunhill: u think this is correct procedure?

From <https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=34485316>


ya ya know im amm the bad guy here huh? .....

[quote="Lunhill":14roig5j]OnlyForJoy declared effect of "The Gates of Dark World"
Lunhill: k
OnlyForJoy: hmm
Lunhill: ..... fr?
OnlyForJoy: no fiend in gy
Lunhill: so whats ur play
OnlyForJoy: can I figure it out
Lunhill: ... omfg...
OnlyForJoy: stfu
Lunhill: link overlay? activate spell rinse repeat?
OnlyForJoy declared effect of "The Gates of Dark World"
Lunhill: u u sed it
Lunhill: u used it...
OnlyForJoy: ?????????
OnlyForJoy: bro are u dubb
Lunhill: u activated it did u not?
OnlyForJoy: im not even entertaining that
Lunhill: ... what?
Lunhill: how many cards u drawing bro?
OnlyForJoy declared effect of "Broww, Huntsman of Dark World"
Lunhill paused the game
OnlyForJoy: If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Draw 1 card
OnlyForJoy: are u special ed
Lunhill: are u?
OnlyForJoy: unpause the fuckin game
OnlyForJoy: we been here long enuff
OnlyForJoy: I got money to make
OnlyForJoy: damn troll
Lunhill: u overlayed the monster... sent to grave.... brought back activated spell... then brought back the monsters... overlayed... sent to grave... linked what u have and activated spell again...
Lunhill: u think this is correct procedure?

From <https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=34485316>


ya ya know im amm the bad guy here huh? .....[/quote:14roig5j]

He didn't activated the field spell again he had no fiends in GY to banish, so the first activation wasn't even possible you were just sharking at that point, and the overlay was also a nitpick.

To be fair I do not think beginner was appropriate here

[quote="Genexwrecker":16mnzua8]To be fair I do not think beginner was appropriate here[/quote:16mnzua8]

You're saying beginner was too harsh or too lenient?

[quote="Christen57":21xsl6s9][quote="Genexwrecker":21xsl6s9]To be fair I do not think beginner was appropriate here[/quote:21xsl6s9]

You're saying beginner was too harsh or too lenient?[/quote:21xsl6s9]
Lenient

Crazy how badly yall choose to bully ppl trying to play a game with you lol

lenient are you serious? yall are to much lol.

Are you saying that playing the victim card makes people less likely to side with you? Thats crazy.

.... bro w.e. its pretty clear none of you actually watched the replay nor have done any true research.

[quote="Lunhill":2b1bfv5q].... bro w.e. its pretty clear none of you actually watched the replay nor have done any true research.[/quote:2b1bfv5q]

I did watched the replay and first you complained about your opp overlaying the monsters then sending them for a Link Summon, so what? he has sending them to GY anyways, it's not like he put an Xyz on top and commit to it, so the fact that you're complaining about that is clearly an attempt to abuse a technicallity.
Second, the field spell. When he declared the Gates the first time he had no fiends in GY to banish, so no, he didn't used the effect because the activation was illegal so there was no activation even if he pressed the declared button, then he corrected telling you there was no fiends in GY to banish, after that, now that he had a fiend to banish off gates and this time the activation is legal, and you complain he used it twice? Either you weren't paying attention to the duel, or the most likely one, you were trying to shark your opponent.

Stay bad Lunhill. You were a shark, the replay shows that. It also shows how you don't understand PSCT and considering you have a history of pulling this kind of crap, your punishment is justified.

Also considering how you told your opponent how one of your cards worked incorrectly then you went to change how it worked in game 2. Really does show malicious intent for cheating.

uh sure... yall are crazy...

notice not one of my questions were answered.... just irrelevant reason after another as to why ur right about topics hving nothing to do with what this post was about.

[quote="Lunhill":3g94ghr5]notice not one of my questions were answered.... just irrelevant reason after another as to why ur right about topics hving nothing to do with what this post was about.[/quote:3g94ghr5]

You were wrong and people are telling you how you were wrong about the Field Spell being used twice (it was used only 1 time, just that the first time the opp declared the eff but realized he had no way of paying the cost, so that activation wasn't legal and then after when he tried to use it now you claimed he already activate it, which he didn't), second you nitpick about the overlay stuff because the mats were sent to GY anyways, it was just a minor detailed that could get corrected easily, and you lied about your opponent Normal Summoning twice, and if that's the case, then what monster did he Normal Summoned?

That situation is either trolling or not trolling. Whichever way beginner was not correct here

[quote="Lunhill":26w1pc7u]notice not one of my questions were answered.... just irrelevant reason after another as to why ur right about topics hving nothing to do with what this post was about.[/quote:26w1pc7u]

The question was "explain this" which is the title of this thread, and we "explained" it. You were penalized for rule-sharking and it was explained how you rule-sharked. What other question here is there to be answered?

not 1 tiime have i said i wasnt wrong aabout the ruling....

Uh idk prolly way a judge was directly helping a player

Tour guide the second time but yet again whats that have to do with anything

[quote="Lunhill":28dwcyk6]Tour guide the second time but yet again whats that have to do with anything[/quote:28dwcyk6]

I watched the replay and this is how it went down:
>OnlyForJoy normal summoned Tour Guide, with her effect he special summoned Broww from the Deck.
>He used Grapha's effect to return the Special Summoned Broww to the hand to Special Summon itself from the GY.
>Link Summoned the Normal Summoned Tour Guide into Salamangreat Almiraj
>Used Allure of Darkness drew 2, banished Snoww
>Used Foolish Burial to send another copy of Grapha
>He Normal Summoned Broww (this is where the conflict started)
>Used Grapha's effect to return Broww to hand and Special Summon the Grapha
>At that moment you told him he already normal summoned, so he fixed the gamestate by just simply sending the Grapha to the GY where it was, the Broww was already in his hand, so the gamestate retuned to before he Normal Summoned broww by mistake.

At that point the gamestate was already fixed, I don't know what are you complaining about if the gamestate was already fixed.
Then latter when he special summons The Dark Creator in the MP2 you complain he normal summoned twice but he didn't, he corrected the gamestate so that double normal didn't happen, you had nothing to complain about.

I find it hard to believe, that someone with your rating (Lunhill) would know so little about the rules of the game. That means you'd either have to have been extraordinarily lucky in all your matches to this day or, more likely (in my opinion), you tried to rule shark your opponent. Whether you did that because you felt you couldn't win otherwise or you were just frustrated and used this to vent, I don't know, but if this truly is something you have done multiple times already, then you absolutely deserved what you got.

This is a place for ruling questions not complaining about what penalties you were issues. If you have an issue wifh how a game was handled please file an appropriate appeal.

The only thing i have a problem with is how this place is policed and the constant gatekeeping by the judges.

lucky lol my in rate is over 50% for more then luck.

i should just send all these convos and dms to some yugitubers im sure they would like some free content.

[quote="Lunhill":3e1a2v51]i should just send all these convos and dms to some yugitubers im sure they would like some free content.[/quote:3e1a2v51]
Any content creator with a brain would only mock you.

[quote="Lunhill":3pjsve5k]i should just send all these convos and dms to some yugitubers im sure they would like some free content.[/quote:3pjsve5k]
Oh no!

Anyway...

[quote="Christen57":2tofjmkh][quote="Genexwrecker":2tofjmkh]To be fair I do not think beginner was appropriate here[/quote:2tofjmkh]

You're saying beginner was too harsh or too lenient?[/quote:2tofjmkh]
Obviously too lenient.

[quote="Sound4":3llqgg65][quote="Christen57":3llqgg65][quote="Genexwrecker":3llqgg65]To be fair I do not think beginner was appropriate here[/quote:3llqgg65]

You're saying beginner was too harsh or too lenient?[/quote:3llqgg65]
Obviously too lenient.[/quote:3llqgg65]
Thanks for giving the same answer Genex did 20 posts ago, as if you have the right to answer his question for him.

[quote="Lunhill":27ytpoak]The only thing i have a problem with is how this place is policed and the constant gatekeeping by the judges.[/quote:27ytpoak]

Define "gatekeeping by the judges".

[quote="Christen57":2kbj9dwd][quote="Lunhill":2kbj9dwd]The only thing i have a problem with is how this place is policed and the constant gatekeeping by the judges.[/quote:2kbj9dwd]

Define "gatekeeping by the judges".[/quote:2kbj9dwd]
^

[quote="greg503":ritbcf8r][quote="Sound4":ritbcf8r][quote="Christen57":ritbcf8r]

You're saying beginner was too harsh or too lenient?[/quote:ritbcf8r]
Obviously too lenient.[/quote:ritbcf8r]
Thanks for giving the same answer Genex did 20 posts ago, as if you have the right to answer his question for him.[/quote:ritbcf8r]
I am simply replying what Genexwrecker meant.

[quote="Sound4":2pi4700p][quote="greg503":2pi4700p][quote="Sound4":2pi4700p]
Obviously too lenient.[/quote:2pi4700p]
Thanks for giving the same answer Genex did 20 posts ago, as if you have the right to answer his question for him.[/quote:2pi4700p]
I am simply replying what Genexwrecker meant.[/quote:2pi4700p]
Because whatever Genex wrote was to hard for us simpletons to notice. Only the chosen one can actually understand them and what they mean with their posts.

rofl so yall freeze my account ur funny kinda proves my point

[quote="Lunhill":27u40m05]rofl so yall freeze my account ur funny kinda proves my point[/quote:27u40m05]

What did you get frozen for, and what was "gatekeeping by the judges" supposed to mean?

you tell me. And i think thats a pretty black and white statement

Havnt seen or talked to a judge other then here since the day yall set me beginner lol. This shit is ridiculous

Im sure it has something to do with the to lenient comments above yall are so petty. Bunch of bullied children bullying ppl behind a keyboard.... your so cool....

[quote="Lunhill":2n82jdec]you tell me. And i think thats a pretty black and white statement[/quote:2n82jdec]

Did you get frozen in a duel and see who was freezing you or did you just login and find yourself frozen?

login and i was frozen

[quote="Lunhill":3oif3h5t]login and i was frozen[/quote:3oif3h5t]
Good, your crappy behavior should result in punishment.

rofl.... ya that makes sense a damn week after my punishment ended for something i was never in the wrong for rofl..... this place is a job.... sorry forgot i needed to donate to be ranked

[quote="Lunhill":qqh2ngre]rofl.... ya that makes sense a damn week after my punishment ended for something i was never in the wrong for rofl..... this place is a job.... sorry forgot i needed to donate to be ranked[/quote:qqh2ngre]
Just stop cheating and you would be able to play ranked. It's not hard.

Are u serious rn yall are a joke.... so why was a frozen??????

Are u serious rn yall are a joke.... so why was a frozen??????

[quote="Lunhill":2abr036u]Are u serious rn yall are a joke.... so why was a frozen??????[/quote:2abr036u]

You can make an appeal here if you really don't know what you could've been frozen for: [url:2abr036u]https://forum.duelingbook.com/posting.php?mode=post&f=6[/url:2abr036u]

.... this is a joke. Yall literally just screwing me over rating

@christen57 ya thats great Advise appeal to the same ppl enforcing the bs in the first place.... that makes perfect sense

[quote="Lunhill":3vu23ebm]@christen57 ya thats great Advise appeal to the same ppl enforcing the bs in the first place.... that makes perfect sense[/quote:3vu23ebm]
Then leave the forum and never come back? You obviously hate the site, so why are you here if you won't take the necessary steps?

bc it accomplishes nothing..... same as this whole post. other then to prove my point of gatekeeping

Lunahill you told people to kill themselves. why would you think we should not punish that?

[quote="Lunhill":2zz7btgq]@christen57 ya thats great Advise appeal to the same ppl enforcing the bs in the first place.... that makes perfect sense[/quote:2zz7btgq]

According to Genexwrecker, you told someone to commit suicide. You know that's against the rules and a freezable offense, right?

Also, this isn't discord. Using @ won't signal anyone here. You need to quote their post to get their attention by clicking the " symbol on the upper right corner of the post which looks like this:

..... And where is there any evidence of this? Because it def never happen.... this is the bs im talking about.... you all just make up whatever you want whenever you want and its law...

[quote="Genexwrecker":2jtoz3dl]Lunahill you told people to kill themselves. why would you think we should not punish that?[/quote:2jtoz3dl]
SO when did this happen? Because i know 100% for a fact it never did....

https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=168328-34300328

[109:13] Lunhill: "can u please go play in traffic...."
[109:31] Lunhill: "chase a ball or something...."

you said a lot of inappropriate things in that duel.

[quote="Lunhill":28bhgw1k]..... And where is there any evidence of this? Because it def never happen.... this is the bs im talking about.... you all just make up whatever you want whenever you want and its law...[/quote:28bhgw1k]

According to the replay Genexwrecker provided, you tried to activate Forbidden Droplet when your opponent controlled no monsters, something you can't do. Forbidden Droplet requires your opponent to have at least 1 monster you could choose in order for it to be activatable to begin with.

You may not have explicitly told your opponent to commit suicide, but what you did do was just as bad, if not worse. You maliciously held up the game for over 2 hours after trying to illegally activate that card and then said a bunch of other inappropriate stuff like:

[25:08] "quit jacking off to hentai and play the game...."

[27:49] ".... logical. good job there."
[28:14] "so ya no point in arguing with that...."
[28:25] "go sue...."
[28:30] "this mfer..."

[31:30] "are u trolling me rn?"
[31:35] "do i know you?"
[31:44] "cuz this shit is something else...."

[33:00] "ur hopeless"

[35:42] "so is this what u do?"
[36:13] "I'm a fair player, unlike you. "
[36:15] "get in a match call a judge, go fuck off, and waster ppls time?"
[36:35] "..... uh u play mystic mine"
[36:39] "rofl"
[36:52] "that says everything about u"

[39:15] "sry ill go sue..."
[39:18] "lol"

[42:28] "Ur a tool."

[43:19] "u must be 5"
[43:51] "ur grammer is terrible"

[45:28] "u can call me dad ur mom does."
[46:00] "Really?"
[46:13] "sure son"
[46:58] "trying to avoid ur wippins"
[47:05] "Keep humming. "
[47:08] "whippins"
[47:26] "ur moms humming"
[47:34] "No, she isn't."
[47:57] "Imparting me with knowlege"
[48:21] "What is your profession, keyboard man? "
[48:35] "being ur dad,,, duh "
[48:56] "OK keyboard man"
[49:04] "I sell drugs, fuck bitches, and make money"
[49:20] "What are you doing when you're away from keyboard?"
[49:41] "Ur mother number 1"
[49:50] "You confused those girls with your right hand. "
[50:04] "no thats where i keep the moneu"
[50:07] "money"
[50:26] "ur moms in the left"

[54:57] "ur a joke man. "

[77:14] "Can u just like not be a douche and concede this is getting ridiculous im arguing with a toddler "
[79:17] Shuffled hand
[79:40] "we have been here over an hour bc u aooarently cant play a deck relavent since 4 years ago.... and def cant seem to beable to play without it on the board..... is that how this deck gets wins? Mine or stall for a DC? "
[80:06] "haha me ?"
[80:07] "lol"
[80:10] "You're funny."
[80:14] "ik"
[80:17] "You're the sneaky one."
[80:21] "......"
[80:32] "only thing i sneak with is ur mom"

[82:57] "However ur apparent 12 year old prepubesant ass really needs a hug ig."
[83:25] "Idk what the means can u not baby talk.... i never found that attractive"
[84:28] "Great grammer btw u were as right on that as this ruling"

[85:38] "I sure would unless i was to busy with ur mother."
[85:54] "U beat me to it"
[86:03] "ur learning son"
[86:11] "im proud of you"
[86:42] "something ur fathers never..... i mean uh,,,, how bout those cowboys"

[90:42] "Ur not even fun to talk shit to son.... ur a failure "

[93:02] "u were adopted son..... i thought u should know"

[102:26] "... is that ment to be an insult? "
[102:45] "no bitch... see thats n insult "

[112:55] "..... god damn...... i want you to know i hate u..... every fiber of ur being i hate you...."
[113:13] "i coulda been eatting cheetos"
[113:47] "ur a doritos kinda guy tho huh?"
[114:25] "Imma start singing slave hymns and shit"
[114:45] "someone find me harriot tubman"
[115:16] "D'jango..... jamie foxx.... somebody....."
[116:23] "Mystic mine aka The slave 1 of the sea"
[116:50] "that was a joke about a slave ship....."
[117:14] "I really dont think ur apprichiating the quality material im putting out here"
[118:07] "Are you Mr platinumcowboy blink twice for yes i know how he is"
[122:13] "keep shuffling hand bro.... ur dumb af.... u have held me hostage in this game 2 hrs we will see how this goes for you"

You accuse your opponent of masturbating, you threatened to sue your opponent, you call them names, you tell them to "fuck off," you assume their age, you threaten to give them "whippins" (which is against the rules since you're not allowed to threaten to physically attack/harm opponents in rated), you brag about selling drugs and raping girls, and you complain about how much you hate "every fiber" of your opponent's being, all because you initially tried to illegally activate a card.

Also, you never defined the judges "gatekeeping" like I asked.

rofl! you all are something else!!!!!!!!!

raping rofl.... we streached that huh?

wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys

[quote="Lunhill":fd12agl3]raping rofl.... we streached that huh?[/quote:fd12agl3]

[47:26] "ur moms humming"
[47:57] "Imparting me with knowlege"

[49:04] "I sell drugs, fuck bitches, and make money"

[49:41] "Ur mother number 1"

This is you bragging about having sex with both "bitches" and the opponent's parent, no? So if either of these parties didn't consent to the sex, it means you bragged about raping.

[quote="Lunhill":3fj74ri8]wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys[/quote:3fj74ri8]
Ok, and we'll make you eat your own toxicity back tenfold.

[quote="Lunhill":he5ia353]wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys[/quote:he5ia353]
What is that supposed to mean? lmfao You still havent proven your case

[quote="Lil Oldman":3vlir51z][quote="Lunhill":3vlir51z]wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys[/quote:3vlir51z]
What is that supposed to mean? lmfao You still havent proven your case[/quote:3vlir51z]

Back in 10 days? Could he be referring to the amount of days he got frozen for?

[quote="Lunhill":3gjfvqbj]wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys[/quote:3gjfvqbj]
Can I just point out that the way Lunhill used "monkeys" is actually racist?

[quote="Renji Asuka":vjykp9ew][quote="Lunhill":vjykp9ew]wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys[/quote:vjykp9ew]
Can I just point out that the way Lunhill used "monkeys" is actually racist?[/quote:vjykp9ew]

How?

ROFL!!!!!! yall are sad excuses for human beings.

Monkeys.... ya know as in the wind-up back flipping monkeys... you assuming it has anything to do with race is pretty racist.....

[quote="Christen57":2hvzcvca][quote="Renji Asuka":2hvzcvca][quote="Lunhill":2hvzcvca]wtfe ill be back in 10 days to kick yalls ass some more and make you all ur flip little monkeys[/quote:2hvzcvca]
Can I just point out that the way Lunhill used "monkeys" is actually racist?[/quote:2hvzcvca]

How?[/quote:2hvzcvca]
Monkey can be considered a racial slur towards blacks.

[quote="Renji Asuka":33v1c7gi][quote="Christen57":33v1c7gi][quote="Renji Asuka":33v1c7gi]
Can I just point out that the way Lunhill used "monkeys" is actually racist?[/quote:33v1c7gi]

How?[/quote:33v1c7gi]
Monkey can be considered a racial slur towards blacks.[/quote:33v1c7gi]

Monkey doesn't refer to a race or color. It refers to an animal, like Dog, Cat, and so on. I'm black and I don't find any animal name racist. Rude? Yes, but racist? No.

[quote="Lunhill":33v1c7gi]ROFL!!!!!! yall are sad excuses for human beings.[/quote:33v1c7gi]

We're not the ones who made up fake terms like "gatekeeping by the judges," tried to illegally activate Forbidden Droplet, held up a game for over 2 hours over that illegal activation, then said a bunch of unnecessary and inappropriate stuff to our opponents.

[quote="Christen57":bd57eyw1][quote="Renji Asuka":bd57eyw1][quote="Christen57":bd57eyw1]

How?[/quote:bd57eyw1]
Monkey can be considered a racial slur towards blacks.[/quote:bd57eyw1][/quote:bd57eyw1]

Monkey doesn't refer to a race or color. It refers to an animal, like Dog, Cat, and so on. I'm black and I don't find any animal name racist. Rude? Yes, but racist? No.
Cracker refers to a food, yet it was used as a racial slur. This is about history more than the current era.

[quote="greg503":3kdfpvkc][quote="Christen57":3kdfpvkc][quote="Renji Asuka":3kdfpvkc]
Monkey can be considered a racial slur towards blacks.[/quote:3kdfpvkc][/quote:3kdfpvkc]

Monkey doesn't refer to a race or color. It refers to an animal, like Dog, Cat, and so on. I'm black and I don't find any animal name racist. Rude? Yes, but racist? No.
Cracker refers to a food, yet it was used as a racial slur. This is about history more than the current era.[/quote:3kdfpvkc]

Not once in my life have I ever heard or seen someone use "cracker" as an insult or slur.

rofl.... this writes itself....

man, these trolls should start getting creative, they wont do for funny Ace Attorney things lmao

[quote="Christen57":1gcii62x][quote="greg503":1gcii62x][quote="Christen57":1gcii62x][/quote:1gcii62x]

Monkey doesn't refer to a race or color. It refers to an animal, like Dog, Cat, and so on. I'm black and I don't find any animal name racist. Rude? Yes, but racist? No.
Cracker refers to a food, yet it was used as a racial slur. This is about history more than the current era.[/quote:1gcii62x]

Not once in my life have I ever heard or seen someone use "cracker" as an insult or slur.[/quote:1gcii62x]
Just because you haven't heard of it being used like that, doesn't mean it can't be a slur or insult

[quote="Christen57":3py9etez][quote="greg503":3py9etez][quote="Christen57":3py9etez][/quote:3py9etez]

Monkey doesn't refer to a race or color. It refers to an animal, like Dog, Cat, and so on. I'm black and I don't find any animal name racist. Rude? Yes, but racist? No.
Cracker refers to a food, yet it was used as a racial slur. This is about history more than the current era.[/quote:3py9etez]

Not once in my life have I ever heard or seen someone use "cracker" as an insult or slur.[/quote:3py9etez]
I highly doubt Lunhill's intention was to use 'monkey' as a slur, on the grounds that I don't think he's capable of thinking that far ahead. Aside from that, I don't see how this has anything to do with the conversation at hand.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1kkuc6ag][quote="Christen57":1kkuc6ag][quote="greg503":1kkuc6ag]

Monkey doesn't refer to a race or color. It refers to an animal, like Dog, Cat, and so on. I'm black and I don't find any animal name racist. Rude? Yes, but racist? No.
Cracker refers to a food, yet it was used as a racial slur. This is about history more than the current era.[/quote:1kkuc6ag]

Not once in my life have I ever heard or seen someone use "cracker" as an insult or slur.[/quote:1kkuc6ag]
Just because you haven't heard of it being used like that, doesn't mean it can't be a slur or insult[/quote:1kkuc6ag]

So what? Does that mean everything is an insult? Because by that logic, if I address you as anything, it might as well be an insult, like if you address me by my name Christen, it's probably now an insult to do so since someone in this world may have at some point called someone a Christen as an insult, even though a person's name is usually the proper way to address them, or if you're trying to be respectful and professional by addressing them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" even though both of those would also now be insults by your logic.

On one hand, I get what you're trying to say. We need to pick our words carefully because a single word can mean various things depending on the context, like how "fly" could refer to either the insect, or the act of flying in the air.
On the other hand, however, nothing about the context in which Lunhill used "monkey" suggests racism.

[quote="Christen57":1r6ynqc7][quote="Renji Asuka":1r6ynqc7][quote="Christen57":1r6ynqc7]

Not once in my life have I ever heard or seen someone use "cracker" as an insult or slur.[/quote:1r6ynqc7]
Just because you haven't heard of it being used like that, doesn't mean it can't be a slur or insult[/quote:1r6ynqc7]

So what? Does that mean everything is an insult? Because by that logic, if I address you as anything, it might as well be an insult, like if you address me by my name Christen, it's probably now an insult to do so since someone in this world may have at some point called someone a Christen as an insult, even though a person's name is usually the proper way to address them, or if you're trying to be respectful and professional by addressing them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" even though both of those would also now be insults by your logic.

On one hand, I get what you're trying to say. We need to pick our words carefully because a single word can mean various things depending on the context, like how "fly" could refer to either the insect, or the act of flying in the air.
On the other hand, however, nothing about the context in which Lunhill used "monkey" suggests racism.[/quote:1r6ynqc7]
I really recommend reading what will be in your DM.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1z32f854][quote="Christen57":1z32f854][quote="Renji Asuka":1z32f854]
Just because you haven't heard of it being used like that, doesn't mean it can't be a slur or insult[/quote:1z32f854]

So what? Does that mean everything is an insult? Because by that logic, if I address you as anything, it might as well be an insult, like if you address me by my name Christen, it's probably now an insult to do so since someone in this world may have at some point called someone a Christen as an insult, even though a person's name is usually the proper way to address them, or if you're trying to be respectful and professional by addressing them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" even though both of those would also now be insults by your logic.

On one hand, I get what you're trying to say. We need to pick our words carefully because a single word can mean various things depending on the context, like how "fly" could refer to either the insect, or the act of flying in the air.
On the other hand, however, nothing about the context in which Lunhill used "monkey" suggests racism.[/quote:1z32f854]
I really recommend reading what will be in your DM.[/quote:1z32f854]

This "DM" I got from you was just these 3 links:

[quote="Renji Asuka":1z32f854][url:1z32f854]https://theconversation.com/comparing-black-people-to-monkeys-has-a-long-dark-simian-history-55102[/url:1z32f854]

[url:1z32f854]https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/porch-monkey/[/url:1z32f854]

[url:1z32f854]https://www.norvillerogers.com/why-its-racist-calling-black-people-monkeys/[/url:1z32f854][/quote:1z32f854]

The first link doesn't make much sense since humans evolved from primates, so just drawing a similarity or two between us and some animal doesn't automatically make one racist. Humans can be compared to any creature no matter who is what skin color, and at least 1 similarity will always be found between that human and the creature in question. I can find a similarity between a human and an ant because they both have legs. I can find a similarity between a human and an elephant because they both have brains. Simply acknowledging these small similarities whenever they come up doesn't automatically make one racist.
The second link makes no sense since Lunhill didn't specifically say "porch monkey," only "monkey".
The third link makes no sense because it's trying to say that calling a black person a monkey is bad but it doesn't seem to have an issue when other races like white and asian are called monkey, only black. If calling someone a monkey is bad, it should be bad to call any race monkey, not just blacks.

In general, I think calling any person any animal as an insult (whether it's monkey, bird, tiger, etc) is childish and should be avoided, just like how calling someone something weird like "doodoo head" is childish and should be avoided.

[quote="Christen57":29kfgclx][quote="Renji Asuka":29kfgclx][quote="Christen57":29kfgclx]

So what? Does that mean everything is an insult? Because by that logic, if I address you as anything, it might as well be an insult, like if you address me by my name Christen, it's probably now an insult to do so since someone in this world may have at some point called someone a Christen as an insult, even though a person's name is usually the proper way to address them, or if you're trying to be respectful and professional by addressing them as "Sir" or "Ma'am" even though both of those would also now be insults by your logic.

On one hand, I get what you're trying to say. We need to pick our words carefully because a single word can mean various things depending on the context, like how "fly" could refer to either the insect, or the act of flying in the air.
On the other hand, however, nothing about the context in which Lunhill used "monkey" suggests racism.[/quote:29kfgclx]
I really recommend reading what will be in your DM.[/quote:29kfgclx]

This "DM" I got from you was just these 3 links:

[quote="Renji Asuka":29kfgclx][url:29kfgclx]https://theconversation.com/comparing-black-people-to-monkeys-has-a-long-dark-simian-history-55102[/url:29kfgclx]

[url:29kfgclx]https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/porch-monkey/[/url:29kfgclx]

[url:29kfgclx]https://www.norvillerogers.com/why-its-racist-calling-black-people-monkeys/[/url:29kfgclx][/quote:29kfgclx]

The first link doesn't make much sense since humans evolved from primates, so just drawing a similarity or two between us and some animal doesn't automatically make one racist. Humans can be compared to any creature no matter who is what skin color, and at least 1 similarity will always be found between that human and the creature in question. I can find a similarity between a human and an ant because they both have legs. I can find a similarity between a human and an elephant because they both have brains. Simply acknowledging these small similarities whenever they come up doesn't automatically make one racist.
The second link makes no sense since Lunhill didn't specifically say "porch monkey," only "monkey".
The third link makes no sense because it's trying to say that calling a black person a monkey is bad but it doesn't seem to have an issue when other races like white and asian are called monkey, only black. If calling someone a monkey is bad, it should be bad to call any race monkey, not just blacks.

In general, I think calling any person any animal as an insult (whether it's monkey, bird, tiger, etc) is childish and should be avoided, just like how calling someone something weird like "doodoo head" is childish and should be avoided.[/quote:29kfgclx]
There is a reason why I sent those links into PMs, as to keep politics away from public threads. And what do you do? You posted them...bruh...

[quote="Renji Asuka":1wdde3sf][quote="Christen57":1wdde3sf][quote="Renji Asuka":1wdde3sf]
I really recommend reading what will be in your DM.[/quote:1wdde3sf]

This "DM" I got from you was just these 3 links:

[quote="Renji Asuka":1wdde3sf][url:1wdde3sf]https://theconversation.com/comparing-black-people-to-monkeys-has-a-long-dark-simian-history-55102[/url:1wdde3sf]

[url:1wdde3sf]https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/porch-monkey/[/url:1wdde3sf]

[url:1wdde3sf]https://www.norvillerogers.com/why-its-racist-calling-black-people-monkeys/[/url:1wdde3sf][/quote:1wdde3sf]

The first link doesn't make much sense since humans evolved from primates, so just drawing a similarity or two between us and some animal doesn't automatically make one racist. Humans can be compared to any creature no matter who is what skin color, and at least 1 similarity will always be found between that human and the creature in question. I can find a similarity between a human and an ant because they both have legs. I can find a similarity between a human and an elephant because they both have brains. Simply acknowledging these small similarities whenever they come up doesn't automatically make one racist.
The second link makes no sense since Lunhill didn't specifically say "porch monkey," only "monkey".
The third link makes no sense because it's trying to say that calling a black person a monkey is bad but it doesn't seem to have an issue when other races like white and asian are called monkey, only black. If calling someone a monkey is bad, it should be bad to call any race monkey, not just blacks.

In general, I think calling any person any animal as an insult (whether it's monkey, bird, tiger, etc) is childish and should be avoided, just like how calling someone something weird like "doodoo head" is childish and should be avoided.[/quote:1wdde3sf]
There is a reason why I sent those links into PMs, as to keep politics away from public threads. And what do you do? You posted them...bruh...[/quote:1wdde3sf]
I think you meant to say something to the effect of "in-depth discussion of what is/was racist" instead of "politics"

[quote="greg503":306cujtq][quote="Renji Asuka":306cujtq][quote="Christen57":306cujtq]

This "DM" I got from you was just these 3 links:



The first link doesn't make much sense since humans evolved from primates, so just drawing a similarity or two between us and some animal doesn't automatically make one racist. Humans can be compared to any creature no matter who is what skin color, and at least 1 similarity will always be found between that human and the creature in question. I can find a similarity between a human and an ant because they both have legs. I can find a similarity between a human and an elephant because they both have brains. Simply acknowledging these small similarities whenever they come up doesn't automatically make one racist.
The second link makes no sense since Lunhill didn't specifically say "porch monkey," only "monkey".
The third link makes no sense because it's trying to say that calling a black person a monkey is bad but it doesn't seem to have an issue when other races like white and asian are called monkey, only black. If calling someone a monkey is bad, it should be bad to call any race monkey, not just blacks.

In general, I think calling any person any animal as an insult (whether it's monkey, bird, tiger, etc) is childish and should be avoided, just like how calling someone something weird like "doodoo head" is childish and should be avoided.[/quote:306cujtq]
There is a reason why I sent those links into PMs, as to keep politics away from public threads. And what do you do? You posted them...bruh...[/quote:306cujtq]
I think you meant to say something to the effect of "in-depth discussion of what is/was racist" instead of "politics"[/quote:306cujtq]
The talk of racism is rooted into politics as it is a topic that does pop up in politics often.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1qlm97ji][quote="Christen57":1qlm97ji][quote="Renji Asuka":1qlm97ji]
I really recommend reading what will be in your DM.[/quote:1qlm97ji]

This "DM" I got from you was just these 3 links:

[quote="Renji Asuka":1qlm97ji][url:1qlm97ji]https://theconversation.com/comparing-black-people-to-monkeys-has-a-long-dark-simian-history-55102[/url:1qlm97ji]

[url:1qlm97ji]https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/porch-monkey/[/url:1qlm97ji]

[url:1qlm97ji]https://www.norvillerogers.com/why-its-racist-calling-black-people-monkeys/[/url:1qlm97ji][/quote:1qlm97ji]

The first link doesn't make much sense since humans evolved from primates, so just drawing a similarity or two between us and some animal doesn't automatically make one racist. Humans can be compared to any creature no matter who is what skin color, and at least 1 similarity will always be found between that human and the creature in question. I can find a similarity between a human and an ant because they both have legs. I can find a similarity between a human and an elephant because they both have brains. Simply acknowledging these small similarities whenever they come up doesn't automatically make one racist.
The second link makes no sense since Lunhill didn't specifically say "porch monkey," only "monkey".
The third link makes no sense because it's trying to say that calling a black person a monkey is bad but it doesn't seem to have an issue when other races like white and asian are called monkey, only black. If calling someone a monkey is bad, it should be bad to call any race monkey, not just blacks.

In general, I think calling any person any animal as an insult (whether it's monkey, bird, tiger, etc) is childish and should be avoided, just like how calling someone something weird like "doodoo head" is childish and should be avoided.[/quote:1qlm97ji]
There is a reason why I sent those links into PMs, as to keep politics away from public threads. And what do you do? You posted them...bruh...[/quote:1qlm97ji]

I didn't notice anything "political" about any of those 3 links.

[quote="Renji Asuka":1qlm97ji]The talk of racism is rooted into politics as it is a topic that does pop up in politics often.[/quote:1qlm97ji]

Racism can be included in political discussions, yes, but it doesn't always have to include politics. In this case, you're the only one who's been bringing these things up, not me or Lunhill.

[quote="Christen57":2on6nl6c][quote="Renji Asuka":2on6nl6c][quote="Christen57":2on6nl6c]

This "DM" I got from you was just these 3 links:



The first link doesn't make much sense since humans evolved from primates, so just drawing a similarity or two between us and some animal doesn't automatically make one racist. Humans can be compared to any creature no matter who is what skin color, and at least 1 similarity will always be found between that human and the creature in question. I can find a similarity between a human and an ant because they both have legs. I can find a similarity between a human and an elephant because they both have brains. Simply acknowledging these small similarities whenever they come up doesn't automatically make one racist.
The second link makes no sense since Lunhill didn't specifically say "porch monkey," only "monkey".
The third link makes no sense because it's trying to say that calling a black person a monkey is bad but it doesn't seem to have an issue when other races like white and asian are called monkey, only black. If calling someone a monkey is bad, it should be bad to call any race monkey, not just blacks.

In general, I think calling any person any animal as an insult (whether it's monkey, bird, tiger, etc) is childish and should be avoided, just like how calling someone something weird like "doodoo head" is childish and should be avoided.[/quote:2on6nl6c]
There is a reason why I sent those links into PMs, as to keep politics away from public threads. And what do you do? You posted them...bruh...[/quote:2on6nl6c]

I didn't notice anything "political" about any of those 3 links.

[quote="Renji Asuka":2on6nl6c]The talk of racism is rooted into politics as it is a topic that does pop up in politics often.[/quote:2on6nl6c]

Racism can be included in political discussions, yes, but it doesn't always have to include politics. In this case, you're the only one who's been bringing these things up, not me or Lunhill.[/quote:2on6nl6c]
All I did was state that it could be seen as racist. You wanted to get deeper into it. I provided you some sources on how in DM so that you'd educate yourself and either continue in DMs or kept quiet on the public side. You did neither.

Could be seen as does not make it such. Calling a person a monkey is not tied to racism. Never had and never will. Some people might take it as racist but that is just delusional. Many people get offended by many things differently. Monkey is an insult no matter the race but it is also a fact when used in proper context.

[quote="Renji Asuka":27petw5o][quote="Christen57":27petw5o][quote="Renji Asuka":27petw5o]
There is a reason why I sent those links into PMs, as to keep politics away from public threads. And what do you do? You posted them...bruh...[/quote:27petw5o]

I didn't notice anything "political" about any of those 3 links.

[quote="Renji Asuka":27petw5o]The talk of racism is rooted into politics as it is a topic that does pop up in politics often.[/quote:27petw5o]

Racism can be included in political discussions, yes, but it doesn't always have to include politics. In this case, you're the only one who's been bringing these things up, not me or Lunhill.[/quote:27petw5o]
All I did was state that it could be seen as racist. You wanted to get deeper into it. I provided you some sources on how in DM so that you'd educate yourself and either continue in DMs or kept quiet on the public side. You did neither.[/quote:27petw5o]

So far, no one here sees what Lunhill said as racist except you. You're trying to call out racism where there is none. You're race hustling. Here are some sources of my own that explain the concept of race hustling. [url:27petw5o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv00hGUYYbY[/url:27petw5o]

[url:27petw5o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1X1vEfDu4[/url:27petw5o]

[url:27petw5o]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/media-dishonesty-and-race-hustling[/url:27petw5o]

[quote="Christen57":4s0inrrs][quote="Renji Asuka":4s0inrrs][quote="Christen57":4s0inrrs]

I didn't notice anything "political" about any of those 3 links.



Racism can be included in political discussions, yes, but it doesn't always have to include politics. In this case, you're the only one who's been bringing these things up, not me or Lunhill.[/quote:4s0inrrs]
All I did was state that it could be seen as racist. You wanted to get deeper into it. I provided you some sources on how in DM so that you'd educate yourself and either continue in DMs or kept quiet on the public side. You did neither.[/quote:4s0inrrs]

So far, no one here sees what Lunhill said as racist except you. You're trying to call out racism where there is none. You're race hustling. Here are some sources of my own that explain the concept of race hustling. [url:4s0inrrs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv00hGUYYbY[/url:4s0inrrs]

[url:4s0inrrs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1X1vEfDu4[/url:4s0inrrs]

[url:4s0inrrs]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/media-dishonesty-and-race-hustling[/url:4s0inrrs][/quote:4s0inrrs]
I'm not telling anyone to see it that way. No where have I called it out as racism. And no where have I attempted to race hustle. Only stating that it can be seen as racist. You wanted more info, and it was provided to you.

I got a feeling that this kinda get waaaaay to out of hand here, so maybe let's...... move on?

[quote="Renji Asuka":knyf7u63][quote="Christen57":knyf7u63][quote="Renji Asuka":knyf7u63]
All I did was state that it could be seen as racist. You wanted to get deeper into it. I provided you some sources on how in DM so that you'd educate yourself and either continue in DMs or kept quiet on the public side. You did neither.[/quote:knyf7u63]

So far, no one here sees what Lunhill said as racist except you. You're trying to call out racism where there is none. You're race hustling. Here are some sources of my own that explain the concept of race hustling. [url:knyf7u63]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv00hGUYYbY[/url:knyf7u63]

[url:knyf7u63]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1X1vEfDu4[/url:knyf7u63]

[url:knyf7u63]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/media-dishonesty-and-race-hustling[/url:knyf7u63][/quote:knyf7u63]
I'm not telling anyone to see it that way. No where have I called it out as racism. And no where have I attempted to race hustle. Only stating that it can be seen as racist. You wanted more info, and it was provided to you.[/quote:knyf7u63]

Your original assertion was, and I quote, 'that the way Lunhill used "monkeys" is actually racist'. That's it. You weren't asserting that it could be racist. You were asserting that it was racist.

As Genexwrecker pointed out, Calling a person a monkey is not tied to racism. Never had and never will.

As KTeknis pointed out earlier, this thread has gotten horrifically off-topic. If the only things left to be said about this subject are on Lunhill calling their opponent a monkey and whether it's racist or not, please move the discussion elsewhere.

..... crazy

[quote="Lunhill":142qolo1]..... crazy[/quote:142qolo1]
It just goes to show how much Renji is willing to attribute the most malice possible to your behavior.

[quote="greg503":2qg6njt7][quote="Lunhill":2qg6njt7]..... crazy[/quote:2qg6njt7]
It just goes to show how much Renji is willing to attribute the most malice possible to your behavior.[/quote:2qg6njt7]
More like my hands typed faster than my brain where I don't type words and it changes the context of the sentence.

(Man, seeing this makes me feel lucky that I wasn't in as deep of a hole as Lunhill. Can't wait for 2021 to end.)

Merry Christmas!