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Post #1 by TheRoyalAu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:08 pm

Care to explain? I see it as illegal.
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Post #2 by greg503 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:19 pm

Just use the appeal feature at posting.php?mode=post&f=6
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Post #3 by TheRoyalAu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:19 pm

I did, I'm awaiting an explanation.
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Post #4 by greg503 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:20 pm

Well it probably won't be on this thread
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Post #5 by TheRoyalAu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:21 pm

I have breached none of these rules:

https://www.duelingbook.com/rules
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Post #6 by Genexwrecker » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:27 pm

TheRoyalAu wrote:I have breached none of these rules:

https://www.duelingbook.com/rules

You did that is why you were frozen.
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Post #7 by TheRoyalAu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:31 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:
TheRoyalAu wrote:I have breached none of these rules:

https://www.duelingbook.com/rules

You did that is why you were frozen.


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Post #8 by TheRoyalAu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:32 pm

You cannot ban anyone for abiding by the rules. And from the rules I have read, I still have not found that explanation that states I have done something wrong.
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Post #9 by Renji Asuka » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:16 am

Keep in mind any company can ban you for any reason at their sole discretion.

Also you're lying about not breaking any rules. The judges here don't typically abuse their power. (I haven't seen a case of it happening at least on the forums.)
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Post #10 by greg503 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 am

Have you by chance been using a VPN or other network used by a lot of people?
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Post #11 by Genexwrecker » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:03 am

greg503 wrote:Have you by chance been using a VPN or other network used by a lot of people?

They did not
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Post #12 by Genexwrecker » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:06 am

Renji Asuka wrote:Keep in mind any company can ban you for any reason at their sole discretion.

Also you're lying about not breaking any rules. The judges here don't typically abuse their power. (I haven't seen a case of it happening at least on the forums.)

In 4 years iv only seen 3 judges abuse their power and they were immediately terminated in less than 24 hours of each incident. I also wouldnt call it lying. A lot of people are in the mindset that their childish behavior isnt punishable or is not punishable if not explicitly states on the rules page.
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Post #13 by Sound4 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:30 pm

What exactly were you frozen for? What did the judge say what you were frozen for?

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Post #14 by Sound4 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:35 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:
Renji Asuka wrote:Keep in mind any company can ban you for any reason at their sole discretion.

Also you're lying about not breaking any rules. The judges here don't typically abuse their power. (I haven't seen a case of it happening at least on the forums.)

In 4 years iv only seen 3 judges abuse their power and they were immediately terminated in less than 24 hours of each incident. I also wouldnt call it lying. A lot of people are in the mindset that their childish behavior isnt punishable or is not punishable if not explicitly states on the rules page.

It isn't about just abusing power judges can make poor decisions. Then the judge doesn't want to listen to anything the player is saying. There are literally replays that judges don't want to to either take into consideration what the player is saying or just intentionally ignores them without giving an explanation. Another thing is ban/freeze appeals are definitely not answered abuse reports are but not appeals. You can go a month without even a reply.

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Post #15 by greg503 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:04 pm

Sound4 wrote:Then the judge doesn't want to listen to anything the player is saying. There are literally replays that judges don't want to to either take into consideration what the player is saying or just intentionally ignores them without giving an explanation.

Have you considered that sometimes actions speak louder than words? That some players would make excuses that don't work?
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Post #16 by Sound4 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:16 pm

greg503 wrote:
Sound4 wrote:Then the judge doesn't want to listen to anything the player is saying. There are literally replays that judges don't want to to either take into consideration what the player is saying or just intentionally ignores them without giving an explanation.

Have you considered that sometimes actions speak louder than words? That some players would make excuses that don't work?

That is why it is important for the judge to listen to the player on why the player took that action. Some players do make excuses but this must be proved with evidence not assumptions.

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Post #17 by Genexwrecker » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:18 pm

Sound4 wrote:
greg503 wrote:
Sound4 wrote:Then the judge doesn't want to listen to anything the player is saying. There are literally replays that judges don't want to to either take into consideration what the player is saying or just intentionally ignores them without giving an explanation.

Have you considered that sometimes actions speak louder than words? That some players would make excuses that don't work?

That is why it is important for the judge to listen to the player on why the player took that action. Some players do make excuses but this must be proved with evidence not assumptions.

We dont always need solid evidence of x behavior if a player keeps walking a line we can make that kudgement call to issue a penalty.
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Post #18 by Sound4 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:46 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:
Sound4 wrote:
greg503 wrote:Have you considered that sometimes actions speak louder than words? That some players would make excuses that don't work?

That is why it is important for the judge to listen to the player on why the player took that action. Some players do make excuses but this must be proved with evidence not assumptions.

We dont always need solid evidence of x behavior if a player keeps walking a line we can make that kudgement call to issue a penalty.

What do you mean by walking a line? Also yes it is important to have evidence or else it seems like you are giving punishments just for the fun of it.

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Post #19 by greg503 » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:06 pm

Sound4 wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:
Sound4 wrote:That is why it is important for the judge to listen to the player on why the player took that action. Some players do make excuses but this must be proved with evidence not assumptions.

We dont always need solid evidence of x behavior if a player keeps walking a line we can make that kudgement call to issue a penalty.

What do you mean by walking a line? Also yes it is important to have evidence or else it seems like you are giving punishments just for the fun of it.

The evidence IS that the player is acting suspicious, such as only communicating certain actions as if they intend to shark.
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Post #20 by Genexwrecker » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:44 pm

Sound4 wrote:
Genexwrecker wrote:
Sound4 wrote:That is why it is important for the judge to listen to the player on why the player took that action. Some players do make excuses but this must be proved with evidence not assumptions.

We dont always need solid evidence of x behavior if a player keeps walking a line we can make that kudgement call to issue a penalty.

What do you mean by walking a line? Also yes it is important to have evidence or else it seems like you are giving punishments just for the fun of it.

A lot of cases will not have 100% evidence. That is when our opinions and evaluations are what are used to determine if penalties are needed for x behavior
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