I have a feeling the last 4 digits of each judge's profile number on their forum profile is their resource judge number

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Re: I have a feeling the last 4 digits of each judge's profile number on their forum profile is their resource judge num

Post #21 by Wek » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:42 pm

Christen57 wrote:That's because Main Menu Moderator isn't actually a resource judge. They're just a regular user like the rest of us who happened to be granted judge powers/privileges normally reserved for actual resource judges.

Look at the login screen where it says you need at least 100 experience to become a resource judge by taking the judge exam.

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Now notice how Main Menu Moderator lacks that required amount of experience to be a resource judge.

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The same thing goes for Appeal Bot and Duelingbook Moderator.

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So obviously these users aren't going to have resource judge profiles, because they haven't become actual resources judges by passing the exam like everyone else and getting the required experience. They were simply granted judge powers/privileges which they use for purposes unrelated to resource judging. There not actual resources judges so they don't do what resource judges normally do such as answering judge calls. Their regular profiles themselves, Main Menu Moderator, Appeal Bot, and Duelingbook Moderator, are the only profiles they need. They don't need any additional profiles saying Resource Judge followed by a number because that isn't their role.

The user DB Head Judge also isn't a resource judge either since they didn't pass the resource judge exam and get the required experience. That user was also just given admin privileges, also on duelingbook, trying to visit their profile instead takes you to the profile of Admin Recruiting.

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This means their actual job isn't to be a judge but rather to recruit them, so they too wouldn't have or need a resource judge profile.

All these 4 users are listed as judges in the system, but only because they were granted special judge-like roles, not because they're actually resource judges who passed the exam like everyone else and got the required experience and answer judge calls.


That's 4 more profiles that don't fit your judge number role and we haven't even finished the list of names that don't work. Add in the head judges not listed and note accounts like Appeal Bot are almost certainly involved in calls, since I'm going to take the wild guess Appeal Bot takes appeals :P

Doesn't look like a matter of 1-2 exceptions, just a different rule.

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Post #22 by Christen57 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:31 pm

Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:That's because Main Menu Moderator isn't actually a resource judge. They're just a regular user like the rest of us who happened to be granted judge powers/privileges normally reserved for actual resource judges.

Look at the login screen where it says you need at least 100 experience to become a resource judge by taking the judge exam.

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Now notice how Main Menu Moderator lacks that required amount of experience to be a resource judge.

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The same thing goes for Appeal Bot and Duelingbook Moderator.

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So obviously these users aren't going to have resource judge profiles, because they haven't become actual resources judges by passing the exam like everyone else and getting the required experience. They were simply granted judge powers/privileges which they use for purposes unrelated to resource judging. There not actual resources judges so they don't do what resource judges normally do such as answering judge calls. Their regular profiles themselves, Main Menu Moderator, Appeal Bot, and Duelingbook Moderator, are the only profiles they need. They don't need any additional profiles saying Resource Judge followed by a number because that isn't their role.

The user DB Head Judge also isn't a resource judge either since they didn't pass the resource judge exam and get the required experience. That user was also just given admin privileges, also on duelingbook, trying to visit their profile instead takes you to the profile of Admin Recruiting.

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This means their actual job isn't to be a judge but rather to recruit them, so they too wouldn't have or need a resource judge profile.

All these 4 users are listed as judges in the system, but only because they were granted special judge-like roles, not because they're actually resource judges who passed the exam like everyone else and got the required experience and answer judge calls.


That's 4 more profiles that don't fit your judge number role and we haven't even finished the list of names that don't work. Add in the head judges not listed and note accounts like Appeal Bot are almost certainly involved in calls, since I'm going to take the wild guess Appeal Bot takes appeals :P

Doesn't look like a matter of 1-2 exceptions, just a different rule.


Is there a single replay in rated where any one of those 4 users answered a judge call?

Also, yes, this method isn't supposed to work for Head Administrators because Head Administrators don't have green names, or any accounts with green names, consisting of Resource Judge followed by 4 numbers. Head Administrators have yellow names on duelingbook, and they're already identifiable since their usernames are visible while they are online or answering calls. Any time a Head Administrator such as Lantern is online, we all can see that he's Lantern. He doesn't hide behind "Resource Judge #" labels and numbers while online or answering calls. There is no need for us to try and figure out what his "real account" is or what his forum profile number matches since his name and status are already visible for us to see at all times. This method isn't needed to identify Head Administrators online, only the regular active Resource Judges, the ones with the green names, hashtags, and numbers, who answer calls.

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Post #23 by Wek » Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:51 pm

Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:That's because Main Menu Moderator isn't actually a resource judge. They're just a regular user like the rest of us who happened to be granted judge powers/privileges normally reserved for actual resource judges.

Look at the login screen where it says you need at least 100 experience to become a resource judge by taking the judge exam.

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Now notice how Main Menu Moderator lacks that required amount of experience to be a resource judge.

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The same thing goes for Appeal Bot and Duelingbook Moderator.

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So obviously these users aren't going to have resource judge profiles, because they haven't become actual resources judges by passing the exam like everyone else and getting the required experience. They were simply granted judge powers/privileges which they use for purposes unrelated to resource judging. There not actual resources judges so they don't do what resource judges normally do such as answering judge calls. Their regular profiles themselves, Main Menu Moderator, Appeal Bot, and Duelingbook Moderator, are the only profiles they need. They don't need any additional profiles saying Resource Judge followed by a number because that isn't their role.

The user DB Head Judge also isn't a resource judge either since they didn't pass the resource judge exam and get the required experience. That user was also just given admin privileges, also on duelingbook, trying to visit their profile instead takes you to the profile of Admin Recruiting.

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This means their actual job isn't to be a judge but rather to recruit them, so they too wouldn't have or need a resource judge profile.

All these 4 users are listed as judges in the system, but only because they were granted special judge-like roles, not because they're actually resource judges who passed the exam like everyone else and got the required experience and answer judge calls.


That's 4 more profiles that don't fit your judge number role and we haven't even finished the list of names that don't work. Add in the head judges not listed and note accounts like Appeal Bot are almost certainly involved in calls, since I'm going to take the wild guess Appeal Bot takes appeals :P

Doesn't look like a matter of 1-2 exceptions, just a different rule.


Is there a single replay in rated where any one of those 4 users answered a judge call?

Also, yes, this method isn't supposed to work for Head Administrators because Head Administrators don't have green names, or any accounts with green names, consisting of Resource Judge followed by 4 numbers. Head Administrators have yellow names on duelingbook, and they're already identifiable since their usernames are visible while they are online or answering calls. Any time a Head Administrator such as Lantern is online, we all can see that he's Lantern. He doesn't hide behind "Resource Judge #" labels and numbers while online or answering calls. There is no need for us to try and figure out what his "real account" is or what his forum profile number matches since his name and status are already visible for us to see at all times. This method isn't needed to identify Head Administrators online, only the regular active Resource Judges, the ones with the green names, hashtags, and numbers, who answer calls.


If your system isn't counting the likes of head judges because they lack Resource Judge Names, why do you assume Ants or $waggot are numbered greens to begin with?

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Post #24 by Christen57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:58 am

Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
That's 4 more profiles that don't fit your judge number role and we haven't even finished the list of names that don't work. Add in the head judges not listed and note accounts like Appeal Bot are almost certainly involved in calls, since I'm going to take the wild guess Appeal Bot takes appeals :P

Doesn't look like a matter of 1-2 exceptions, just a different rule.


Is there a single replay in rated where any one of those 4 users answered a judge call?

Also, yes, this method isn't supposed to work for Head Administrators because Head Administrators don't have green names, or any accounts with green names, consisting of Resource Judge followed by 4 numbers. Head Administrators have yellow names on duelingbook, and they're already identifiable since their usernames are visible while they are online or answering calls. Any time a Head Administrator such as Lantern is online, we all can see that he's Lantern. He doesn't hide behind "Resource Judge #" labels and numbers while online or answering calls. There is no need for us to try and figure out what his "real account" is or what his forum profile number matches since his name and status are already visible for us to see at all times. This method isn't needed to identify Head Administrators online, only the regular active Resource Judges, the ones with the green names, hashtags, and numbers, who answer calls.


If your system isn't counting the likes of head judges because they lack Resource Judge Names, why do you assume Ants or $waggot are numbered greens to begin with?


Because those 2 are listed as judges in the system like all the other judges where DistantCoder and whatnot are listed, so those 2 probably either are just inactive or have been demoted. Also, Ants In The Pants is a senior resource judge, meaning he would have a gray Resource Judge name instead of a green one, just like how the Head Administrators would have a yellow name online instead of a green one.

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Post #25 by Genexwrecker » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:37 am

you dont even have half the judge list buddy
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Post #26 by Wek » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 am

Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
Is there a single replay in rated where any one of those 4 users answered a judge call?

Also, yes, this method isn't supposed to work for Head Administrators because Head Administrators don't have green names, or any accounts with green names, consisting of Resource Judge followed by 4 numbers. Head Administrators have yellow names on duelingbook, and they're already identifiable since their usernames are visible while they are online or answering calls. Any time a Head Administrator such as Lantern is online, we all can see that he's Lantern. He doesn't hide behind "Resource Judge #" labels and numbers while online or answering calls. There is no need for us to try and figure out what his "real account" is or what his forum profile number matches since his name and status are already visible for us to see at all times. This method isn't needed to identify Head Administrators online, only the regular active Resource Judges, the ones with the green names, hashtags, and numbers, who answer calls.


If your system isn't counting the likes of head judges because they lack Resource Judge Names, why do you assume Ants or $waggot are numbered greens to begin with?


Because those 2 are listed as judges in the system like all the other judges where DistantCoder and whatnot are listed, so those 2 probably either are just inactive or have been demoted. Also, Ants In The Pants is a senior resource judge, meaning he would have a gray Resource Judge name instead of a green one, just like how the Head Administrators would have a yellow name online instead of a green one.


Neither. There's no way they would be listed as judges if demoted and being inactive would not change that.
They're probably just judges that don't use a number.

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Post #27 by Christen57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:18 am

Genexwrecker wrote:you dont even have half the judge list buddy


The judge list is right here, no? https://forum.duelingbook.com/memberlist.php?mode=team

Wek wrote:
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If your system isn't counting the likes of head judges because they lack Resource Judge Names, why do you assume Ants or $waggot are numbered greens to begin with?


Because those 2 are listed as judges in the system like all the other judges where DistantCoder and whatnot are listed, so those 2 probably either are just inactive or have been demoted. Also, Ants In The Pants is a senior resource judge, meaning he would have a gray Resource Judge name instead of a green one, just like how the Head Administrators would have a yellow name online instead of a green one.


Neither. There's no way they would be listed as judges if demoted and being inactive would not change that.
They're probably just judges that don't use a number.


I'm pretty sure they do use a number while on duty answering calls so they're recognized as judges, and the ones that don't are either seniors or head administrators, unless you have a replay of any of them answering a judge call without the Resource Judge label?

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Post #28 by Genexwrecker » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:09 am

lol no
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Post #29 by Wek » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:12 am

Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
Because those 2 are listed as judges in the system like all the other judges where DistantCoder and whatnot are listed, so those 2 probably either are just inactive or have been demoted. Also, Ants In The Pants is a senior resource judge, meaning he would have a gray Resource Judge name instead of a green one, just like how the Head Administrators would have a yellow name online instead of a green one.


Neither. There's no way they would be listed as judges if demoted and being inactive would not change that.
They're probably just judges that don't use a number.


I'm pretty sure they do use a number while on duty answering calls so they're recognized as judges, and the ones that don't are either seniors or head administrators, unless you have a replay of any of them answering a judge call without the Resource Judge label?


You just said Ants was a senior, so that right there is a reason for them not having a number. $waggot is registered in 2015, DN wasn't even down yet. That's no normal user.

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Post #30 by Genexwrecker » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:18 am

somebody noticed finally
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Post #31 by Christen57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm

Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
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Neither. There's no way they would be listed as judges if demoted and being inactive would not change that.
They're probably just judges that don't use a number.


I'm pretty sure they do use a number while on duty answering calls so they're recognized as judges, and the ones that don't are either seniors or head administrators, unless you have a replay of any of them answering a judge call without the Resource Judge label?


You just said Ants was a senior, so that right there is a reason for them not having a number. $waggot is registered in 2015, DN wasn't even down yet. That's no normal user.


I still think Ants In The Pants does have a Resource Judge profile but is simply inactive or may have just been demoted or something. Neither him nor $waggot was online in a long time or answered any calls in a long time, and Genexwrecker pointed out that inactive judges tend to get demoted where their Resource Judge profiles/numbers can no longer be searched.

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Post #32 by Christen57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:00 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:lol no


So are there any Resources Judges not on that list?

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Post #33 by Christen57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:22 pm

Genexwrecker wrote:somebody noticed finally


Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
I'm pretty sure they do use a number while on duty answering calls so they're recognized as judges, and the ones that don't are either seniors or head administrators, unless you have a replay of any of them answering a judge call without the Resource Judge label?


You just said Ants was a senior, so that right there is a reason for them not having a number. $waggot is registered in 2015, DN wasn't even down yet. That's no normal user.


I still think Ants In The Pants does have a Resource Judge profile but is simply inactive or may have just been demoted or something. Neither him nor $waggot was online in a long time or answered any calls in a long time, and Genexwrecker pointed out that inactive judges tend to get demoted where their Resource Judge profiles/numbers can no longer be searched.


Did y'all just delete judge IDs overnight?

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So much for "using numbers so people dont spam when we sre not in judge mode."


Genexwrecker wrote:You are both correct and incorrect. That being said we do try to not openly say other judges numbers.
We use numbers so people dont spam us when we sre not in judge mode.


Yeah, no point in trying to identify judges by their numbers anymore since all judges use their regular names now.

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Post #34 by Genexwrecker » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:44 pm

Yea o know i was laughing while replying to this topic as i already knew we were changing things
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Post #35 by Wek » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:05 pm

Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
I'm pretty sure they do use a number while on duty answering calls so they're recognized as judges, and the ones that don't are either seniors or head administrators, unless you have a replay of any of them answering a judge call without the Resource Judge label?


You just said Ants was a senior, so that right there is a reason for them not having a number. $waggot is registered in 2015, DN wasn't even down yet. That's no normal user.


I still think Ants In The Pants does have a Resource Judge profile but is simply inactive or may have just been demoted or something. Neither him nor $waggot was online in a long time or answered any calls in a long time, and Genexwrecker pointed out that inactive judges tend to get demoted where their Resource Judge profiles/numbers can no longer be searched.


If they were demoted, they wouldn't be a judge. Forget about finding a Resource Judge title, you wouldn't even be able to look them up as a judge, because they wouldn't be listed as one. Ants is literally a senior, which is the opposite of demotion, that ranks them higher than the greens that generally had Resource Judge names to begin with. And $waggot is probably Xteven, who else could be registered by that date? So them being demoted is laughable.

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Post #36 by Christen57 » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:21 pm

Wek wrote:
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You just said Ants was a senior, so that right there is a reason for them not having a number. $waggot is registered in 2015, DN wasn't even down yet. That's no normal user.


I still think Ants In The Pants does have a Resource Judge profile but is simply inactive or may have just been demoted or something. Neither him nor $waggot was online in a long time or answered any calls in a long time, and Genexwrecker pointed out that inactive judges tend to get demoted where their Resource Judge profiles/numbers can no longer be searched.


If they were demoted, they wouldn't be a judge. Forget about finding a Resource Judge title, you wouldn't even be able to look them up as a judge, because they wouldn't be listed as one. Ants is literally a senior, which is the opposite of demotion, that ranks them higher than the greens that generally had Resource Judge names to begin with. And $waggot is probably Xteven, who else could be registered by that date? So them being demoted is laughable.


The Head Administrator known as Klubba also shows as being registered in 2015, along with $waggot, XtevensChannel, and TheYugiohSlut, who each also show as being registered that year. Those are 4 accounts. The users Ryan Adams, Blane Peterson, and Parker Richards show as being registered in January 2016, just months before Dueling Network went down and Duelingbook rose up to take it's place. Those are 3 more accounts that registered before duelingbook itself existed.

I highly doubt that Xteven has or uses 7 different accounts. Those have to be different people, or at least the people who helped Xteven first build duelingbook.

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Post #37 by Wek » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:56 pm

Christen57 wrote:
Wek wrote:
Christen57 wrote:
I still think Ants In The Pants does have a Resource Judge profile but is simply inactive or may have just been demoted or something. Neither him nor $waggot was online in a long time or answered any calls in a long time, and Genexwrecker pointed out that inactive judges tend to get demoted where their Resource Judge profiles/numbers can no longer be searched.


If they were demoted, they wouldn't be a judge. Forget about finding a Resource Judge title, you wouldn't even be able to look them up as a judge, because they wouldn't be listed as one. Ants is literally a senior, which is the opposite of demotion, that ranks them higher than the greens that generally had Resource Judge names to begin with. And $waggot is probably Xteven, who else could be registered by that date? So them being demoted is laughable.


The Head Administrator known as Klubba also shows as being registered in 2015, along with $waggot, XtevensChannel, and TheYugiohSlut, who each also show as being registered that year. Those are 4 accounts. The users Ryan Adams, Blane Peterson, and Parker Richards show as being registered in January 2016, just months before Dueling Network went down and Duelingbook rose up to take it's place. Those are 3 more accounts that registered before duelingbook itself existed.

I highly doubt that Xteven has or uses 7 different accounts. Those have to be different people, or at least the people who helped Xteven first build duelingbook.


Even if they weren't all Xteven, these still don't sound like viable demotion targets if they were important enough to be a part of Duelingbook being created. If they're listed as a judge, they're a judge. I could see them choosing not to list judges to the public, but not the other way around. If a user isn't a judge, there's no way they'd intentionally still be listed as one.


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