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Post #1 by CrystalMusic » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:40 pm

so lets say im in a duel, and i decide to record said duel on my phone. and lets say my rules were: no extradeck. but my opponent plays an xyz.

now lets say i dont say anything in the duel chat other than "nope i said no extradeck" upon them summoning the xyz. BUT in my video im recording, i am verbally saying (not in the duel chat) something like: OMFG! what is with people who cant read a duel note? just how many morons on here cant read?" would this be in violation of any rules?

the reason im asking this is i want to be sure if saying this in my video but NOT in the duel chat would be allowed or not. seeing as im not in peoples "good graces" i dont want to risk making even more "mistakes" that may result in "action" taken against me.

i mean yes i could have asked a judge on the site, but i preffer the forums to get more responses from the judges. which will further authenticate the answer.
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Post #2 by Toaster-kun » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:01 pm

Maybe you should talk to people within pms before dueling so they know what kind of rules you want. If they don't listen then it could be considered trolling. If you leave rules in the duel notes, many will not care to listen because they just want to play a game of yugioh.

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Post #3 by DuskWill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:35 pm

Sounds like a very convoluted setup to bad-mouth a random stranger, even more than just recording a duel with a phone. Come to think of it, it's actually a bit concerning that your many topics in Spam Paradise ended up not being enough, to the point that you have to vent out your frustrations through other media.

I seriously suggest to avoid creating these self-stressful scenarios that are requires just the noncompliance of strangers in the internet to trigger you. Find some friends that like your rules, don't force random people to abide to them, nor berate them. Or, if possible, gradually learn to lose control of the situation, as your rules basically not only hinders your opponent, but your potential as well.
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Post #4 by greg503 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:54 pm

It would bring you closer to a Harrasment (major) freeze, which I'm sure you've gotten at least once
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Post #5 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:24 am

greg503 wrote:It would bring you closer to a Harrasment (major) freeze, which I'm sure you've gotten at least once


umm:
1: im not saying it to my opponent on the duel chat, im saying it verbally in the video
2: last i checked DB and its Judges has no control over what im allowed to say on videos i upload to youtube as they dont control the content im allowed to use on youtube! they are judges for duelingbook! not youtube!
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Post #6 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:29 am

and ok, maybe someone doesnt understand my rules. how am i supposed to know if they understand them or not if they dont tell me first? all they have to do is pm me and say: "Hey, could you explain what your rules mean so i can better understand them?"

thats all they have to do! its that simple!
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Post #7 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:34 am

Toaster-kun wrote:Maybe you should talk to people within pms before dueling so they know what kind of rules you want. If they don't listen then it could be considered trolling. If you leave rules in the duel notes, many will not care to listen because they just want to play a game of yugioh.


1: then they are free to go find someone who doesnt have a duel note to go duel against. seriously i dont get what is so hard about taking like 10 seconds of your day to ask the host what their duel note (or duel rules) mean. i mean hello, youre not doing anything important, as youre playing yugioh on an online simulator! so i dont see how they could be so "Busy" to not have the "Time" to ask what a hosts rules mean.
2: (best option) if they just want to find a duel quickly they can go host a duel of their own.

me? i like dueling against people who play the old fashioned way, back when both raigeki and dark hole were both banned. by using simple traps like mirror force, trap hole, acid trap hole, etc to deal with monsters OR the most basic way: attacking an opponents monster with your own. none of the current era crap of mass spam summon, "Hand Traps" which are actually Hand Effects, pends, people running meta all the time, xyz's, and links. i preffer the times from 1st gen to early 5ds, when things were simple and easy to follow, when turns didnt take 2+ minutes to conclude, when 1 summon during your own turn was more than enough, when the gods didnt need support, when exodia didnt need support, when the cards were short and simple! thats MY yugioh!
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Post #8 by Darkraiclone » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:58 am

CrystalMusic wrote:1: then they are free to go find someone who doesnt have a duel note to go duel against. seriously i dont get what is so hard about taking like 10 seconds of your day to ask the host what their duel note (or duel rules) mean. i mean hello, youre not doing anything important, as youre playing yugioh on an online simulator! so i dont see how they could be so "Busy" to not have the "Time" to ask what a hosts rules mean.
2: (best option) if they just want to find a duel quickly they can go host a duel of their own.

me? i like dueling against people who play the old fashioned way, back when both raigeki and dark hole were both banned. by using simple traps like mirror force, trap hole, acid trap hole, etc to deal with monsters OR the most basic way: attacking an opponents monster with your own. none of the current era crap of mass spam summon, "Hand Traps" which are actually Hand Effects, pends, people running meta all the time, xyz's, and links. i preffer the times from 1st gen to early 5ds, when things were simple and easy to follow, when turns didnt take 2+ minutes to conclude, when 1 summon during your own turn was more than enough, when the gods didnt need support, when exodia didnt need support, when the cards were short and simple! thats MY yugioh!

That is a fair argument, but here is a hard to swallow truth for you... YOUR Yugioh is dead and buried, and it's never coming back. It doesn't matter how much you whine, cry, or berate other players for not playing with your messed up rules, it's still never coming back. So you can do one of two things.

1: Either get with the times and play in either GOAT format, or show us how good you are and play in the current META like everyone else. Hell, Monarchs are back at full power and they can shut down tons of META decks, and they're as close to "Your Yugioh" as you can get.
2: Simply stop playing and go do something else. Seriously, no one is making you play this game but yourself, and all you're doing is just making other players look bad with how you act, and no, nobody is gonna care about you blaming someone or something else for you actions, you're clearly an adult, so start acting like one and take some responsibility.
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Post #9 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:01 am

Darkraiclone wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:1: then they are free to go find someone who doesnt have a duel note to go duel against. seriously i dont get what is so hard about taking like 10 seconds of your day to ask the host what their duel note (or duel rules) mean. i mean hello, youre not doing anything important, as youre playing yugioh on an online simulator! so i dont see how they could be so "Busy" to not have the "Time" to ask what a hosts rules mean.
2: (best option) if they just want to find a duel quickly they can go host a duel of their own.

me? i like dueling against people who play the old fashioned way, back when both raigeki and dark hole were both banned. by using simple traps like mirror force, trap hole, acid trap hole, etc to deal with monsters OR the most basic way: attacking an opponents monster with your own. none of the current era crap of mass spam summon, "Hand Traps" which are actually Hand Effects, pends, people running meta all the time, xyz's, and links. i preffer the times from 1st gen to early 5ds, when things were simple and easy to follow, when turns didnt take 2+ minutes to conclude, when 1 summon during your own turn was more than enough, when the gods didnt need support, when exodia didnt need support, when the cards were short and simple! thats MY yugioh!

That is a fair argument, but here's a hard to swallow truth for you... YOUR Yugioh is dead and buried, and it's never coming back. It doesn't matter how much you whine, cry, or berate other players for not playing with your messed up rules, it's still never coming back. So you can do one of two things.

1: Either get with the times and play in either GOAT format, or show us how good you are and play in the current META like everyone else. Hell, Monarchs are back at full power and they can shut down tons of META decks, and they're as close to "Your Yugioh" as you can get.
2: Simply stop playing and go do something else. Seriously, no one is making you play this game but yourself, and all you're doing is just making other players look bad with how you act, and no, nobody is gonna care about you blaming someone or something else for you actions, you're clearly an adult, so start acting like one and take some responsibility.


1: goat has to many ppl that use effects on the opponents cards such as mill, discard and destroy.
2: the same could be said of my opponents, if they are an "adult" and if they dont like my rules, why would an "Adult" join someone who has rules they dont like?
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Post #10 by Darkraiclone » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:05 am

CrystalMusic wrote:
Darkraiclone wrote:
CrystalMusic wrote:1: then they are free to go find someone who doesnt have a duel note to go duel against. seriously i dont get what is so hard about taking like 10 seconds of your day to ask the host what their duel note (or duel rules) mean. i mean hello, youre not doing anything important, as youre playing yugioh on an online simulator! so i dont see how they could be so "Busy" to not have the "Time" to ask what a hosts rules mean.
2: (best option) if they just want to find a duel quickly they can go host a duel of their own.

me? i like dueling against people who play the old fashioned way, back when both raigeki and dark hole were both banned. by using simple traps like mirror force, trap hole, acid trap hole, etc to deal with monsters OR the most basic way: attacking an opponents monster with your own. none of the current era crap of mass spam summon, "Hand Traps" which are actually Hand Effects, pends, people running meta all the time, xyz's, and links. i preffer the times from 1st gen to early 5ds, when things were simple and easy to follow, when turns didnt take 2+ minutes to conclude, when 1 summon during your own turn was more than enough, when the gods didnt need support, when exodia didnt need support, when the cards were short and simple! thats MY yugioh!

That is a fair argument, but here's a hard to swallow truth for you... YOUR Yugioh is dead and buried, and it's never coming back. It doesn't matter how much you whine, cry, or berate other players for not playing with your messed up rules, it's still never coming back. So you can do one of two things.

1: Either get with the times and play in either GOAT format, or show us how good you are and play in the current META like everyone else. Hell, Monarchs are back at full power and they can shut down tons of META decks, and they're as close to "Your Yugioh" as you can get.
2: Simply stop playing and go do something else. Seriously, no one is making you play this game but yourself, and all you're doing is just making other players look bad with how you act, and no, nobody is gonna care about you blaming someone or something else for you actions, you're clearly an adult, so start acting like one and take some responsibility.


1: goat has to many ppl that use effects on the opponents cards such as mill, discard and destroy.
2: the same could be said of my opponents, if they are an "adult" and if they dont like my rules, why would an "Adult" join someone who has rules they dont like?

1: So what, you don't have all of the Spam summoning and Hand Traps you keep complaining about, so what's the problem?
2: No one is obligated to play by your rules, and it doesn't matter how you try to act like they're law. Your rules aren't official and no one is going to play by them, and the sooner you pull your head out of your ass and learn that fact, maybe you can start fixing your reputation.
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Post #11 by Kappa Mikey » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:09 am

What is so problematic about using effects on opponent's cards? It was always a thing in the game. Considering how this is a strategy game, winning smarter is more valued than winning harder, hence the usage of such cards.

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Post #12 by Debt » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:06 am

Darkraiclone wrote:That is a fair argument, but here is a hard to swallow truth for you... YOUR Yugioh is dead and buried, and it's never coming back. It doesn't matter how much you whine, cry, or berate other players for not playing with your messed up rules, it's still never coming back. So you can do one of two things.

1: Either get with the times and play in either GOAT format, or show us how good you are and play in the current META like everyone else. Hell, Monarchs are back at full power and they can shut down tons of META decks, and they're as close to "Your Yugioh" as you can get.
2: Simply stop playing and go do something else. Seriously, no one is making you play this game but yourself, and all you're doing is just making other players look bad with how you act, and no, nobody is gonna care about you blaming someone or something else for you actions, you're clearly an adult, so start acting like one and take some responsibility.

Crystal's version of the game isn't dead and buried; it straight up never existed in the first place. Dark Hole, fissure, raigeki, man-eater bug, soul exchange, change of heart, hane-hane and trap hole were in the game from the very first set and starter decks and all of them could be played at 3.

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Post #13 by LightCaster » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:33 am

CrystalMusic wrote:so lets say im in a duel, and i decide to record said duel on my phone. and lets say my rules were: no extradeck. but my opponent plays an xyz.

now lets say i dont say anything in the duel chat other than "nope i said no extradeck" upon them summoning the xyz. BUT in my video im recording, i am verbally saying (not in the duel chat) something like: OMFG! what is with people who cant read a duel note? just how many morons on here cant read?" would this be in violation of any rules?

the reason im asking this is i want to be sure if saying this in my video but NOT in the duel chat would be allowed or not. seeing as im not in peoples "good graces" i dont want to risk making even more "mistakes" that may result in "action" taken against me.

i mean yes i could have asked a judge on the site, but i preffer the forums to get more responses from the judges. which will further authenticate the answer.


Sounds like you're setting up to badmouth someone and not use the duel chat to do it like you do in your, now privated, youtube videos.

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Post #14 by Genexwrecker » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:49 am

Verbally harassing people and doing campains to harass and stalk them and deliver verbal threats is illegal in most countries and regions people have been arrested for making threats on their videos on facebook and youtube. You sound like the kind of person that neeeds to be locked up as ur literally looking for just anyway to treat people horrible if they dont comply with what you want.
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Post #15 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:50 am

Genexwrecker wrote:Verbally harassing people and doing campains to harass and stalk them and deliver verbal threats is illegal in most countries and regions people have been arrested for making threats on their videos on facebook and youtube. You sound like the kind of person that neeeds to be locked up as ur literally looking for just anyway to treat people horrible if they dont comply with what you want.


actually im just blocking them as of 2 days ago. and this time that block list is never getting cleared. if people cant comply with my rules, i simply saying: Bye, get blocked! or im blocking you. bye!. then i block them indefinitely.

this solution not only keeps it on the positive side, but forbids contact in the future to prevent it from happening again with the same player(s)
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Post #16 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:11 am

heres all my recent duels where i simply just left the duel after reminding my opponents of the rules i set, then i blocked them.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879763
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879800 - and he called me the B word
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879908
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879965
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879470
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879617

PROOF im telling the truth of just leaving then blocking but now u see just why i get so mad, do u see how many people i vs on a daily basis that dont obey my rules? so tell me, why am i the one getting "penalized" when clearly im the victim! thats like a judge letting a cop, who brutally attacked an innocent person, walk free while charging the victim for defending themself

so do me a favor and stop acting like you are the victim when clearly its the other way around!
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Post #17 by NiwatoriFTW » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:21 am

CrystalMusic wrote:heres all my recent duels where i simply just left the duel after reminding my opponents of the rules i set, then i blocked them.
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879763
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879800 - and he called me the B word
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879908
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879965
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879470
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879617

PROOF im telling the truth of just leaving then blocking but now u see just why i get so mad, do u see how many people i vs on a daily basis that dont obey my rules? so tell me, why am i the one getting "penalized" when clearly im the victim! thats like a judge letting a cop, who brutally attacked an innocent person, walk free while charging the victim for defending themself

so do me a favor and stop acting like you are the victim when clearly its the other way around!

What about Evanescence, who actually tried to be kind and see some way to help you and, yet, you shove them away for a VERY minimal reason?
https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=200963-21879965
[0:00] CrystalMusic: CrystalMusic hosted Single (with siding) in Advanced (Unrated) with duel note "NO META, PENDS, STAPLES OR EXTRADECK."
..
[0:20] CrystalMusic: "i wonder if ur gonna be #51 today (of whom i block)"
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[0:53] Evanescence: "i see ur popular as the post have said all night"
[0:57] Evanescence: Normal Summoned "Breaker the Magical Warrior" from hand (1/6) to M-3
[1:00] CrystalMusic: "look"
[1:02] Evanescence: Placed a counter on "Breaker the Magical Warrior" in M-3 (now 1)
[1:07] CrystalMusic: "i expect people to obey my rules upon joining"
[1:11] CrystalMusic: "thosewho dont get blocked"
[1:38] CrystalMusic: "its a simple way of me sorting out ppl who dont care and those who actually want a friendly duel"
[2:32] Evanescence: "id like to give my opionin but we both know that can also get u blocked so lets duel"
..
[2:44] CrystalMusic: "depends on the opinion"
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[3:02] CrystalMusic: "if i find it rude, then yeah"
[3:42] Evanescence: "the kind that would call u out and correct u? u still want and no im not rude but rude or not can still get blocked"
..
[4:34] CrystalMusic: "my issue with the majority is simple: 1: they dont obey the rules i lay down. 2: they can never use a unique deck, 3: they purposely troll me"
[4:56] CrystalMusic: "and like i said my answer to that problem is: Blocking them"
[5:38] Evanescence: "look i am a psychiatrist so if u want my opinion i can give it to u but u gotta really want it "
[5:53] CrystalMusic: "i used ot have 256 ppl blocked 4 days ago, i just cleared it the day before yesterday and now its already back at 180"
[6:35] CrystalMusic: "maybe you could tell people about autism and games and why its important to follow their rules"
[6:51] CrystalMusic: "if u really are a psyciatrist"
[8:05] CrystalMusic: "and the only way i could varify if u are one is: 1 what college did u go to? what courses did you take? 3: how long were u in college and 4: how many years did u take the courses."
[8:24] CrystalMusic: "but thats not relevant to me right now"
[8:27] CrystalMusic: "lets finish this duel"
[8:30] CrystalMusic: "then we can talk about aht"
[8:32] CrystalMusic: "that*"
[8:45] Evanescence: "wow ur friend really is a good person to try and help u but something lets me without a face to face in person i probably not gonna make to much of a head way allso sure"
[8:50] Evanescence: Sent "Breaker the Magical Warrior" from M-3 to GY
[8:51] CrystalMusic: "that is if u dont do something to make me leave and block you before hand"
[8:57] Evanescence: Normal Summoned "Jinzo" from hand (3/5) to M-3
[9:00] CrystalMusic: "aaaand"
[9:02] CrystalMusic: "u just did"
[9:08] CrystalMusic: "ihate whenppl use jinzo against me"
[9:16] CrystalMusic: Left duel

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Post #18 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:23 am

as the duel chat stated: i hate when people use my boi jinzo against me. i hate when ppl dont have their own style. you know i always use counter traps to stop spells and traps. my style has always been anti spell / anti trap. and jinzo is anti trap.
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Post #19 by KTeknis » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:24 am

Unfortunately, Duel Note are just Note, or as some people say, they're not contract. they're not enforceable. Nothing stop people from not obeying to your rules, this includes Trolls and newbies. Also sometimes when people do read your Duel Note, only a few might read your Profile, which also contain more rules.
When someone break your rule, I suggest to just leave the room calmly and block, rather than going all your way to make sure it is enforced. Another suggestion is to try a simpler Duel Note, or a more clear duel note. Or you can try the option mentioned above and make friend with person who like your rule or PM that duelist to confirm he's abide to your rule.
The problem with your rules is that it forces people to make another deck just to duel 1 person.
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Post #20 by CrystalMusic » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:26 am

KTeknis wrote:Unfortunately, Duel Note are just Note, or as some people say, they're not contract. they're not enforceable. Nothing stop people from not obeying to your rules, this includes Trolls and newbies. Also sometimes when people do read your Duel Note, only a few might read your Profile, which also contain more rules.
When someone break your rule, I suggest to just leave the room calmly and block, rather than going all your way to make sure it is enforced. Another suggestion is to try a simpler Duel Note, or a more clear duel note. Or you can try the option mentioned above and make friend with person who like your rule or PM that duelist to confirm he's abide to your rule.
The problem with your rules is that it forces people to make another deck just to duel 1 person.


i dont see how having to make a deck is a problem.
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